[UPDATED: Residents Speak Out] Garden Grove Police Want Little Saigon Waitresses To Put On Some Clothes

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Waitresses at Cafe Miss Cutie: "Would you like a smoothie with melons?"
UPDATE, MAY 11, 1:17 A.M.: After the jump, read community responses to the proposed ordinance. 

ORIGINAL POST, MAY 10, 9:21 A.M.: Vietnamese coffee shops are getting too hot for Garden Grove police. 

Apparently, some officers don't think a pair of pasties and six-inch clear plastic heels is appropriate attire for serving chrysanthemum tea. 

According to the Orange County Register, the City Council will consider modifying a city ordinance to include how much skin waitresses can show on the job. The ordinance targets "lingerie cafes"--popular spots like Cafe Di Vang 2 and Cafe Miss Cutie where mostly Vietnamese men come for $5 coffee drinks, fruit smoothies and tea with free refills, all poured by scantily clad women (yes, some in just panties and nipple covers). There's no food, no alcohol and contrary to how things may appear, no "extras." You won't find any "private rooms" and if you wanna tip, you gotta put your dollar bills in the tip jar at the register, not in your server.

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Police Chief Kevin Raney told the Register that the amended ordinance is meant to ensure that these establishments "do not turn into gentleman's clubs." One clause says women cannot expose any part of their breasts below the areola. Read: No underboob. 

The modified ordinance, which will be discussed at tonight's City Council meeting, also aims to crack down on arcade games (which police say may be linked to gambling activity), smoking and tinting windows in a way so police cannot see what's going on inside. 

These cafes may soon have to start serving some damn good coffee.   

Update: 

"Can we make them wear ponchos?" a man in the crowd asked as Garden Grove Police Chief Kevin Raney explained the proposed new rules for coffeehouses at Tuesday night's City Council meeting.  
   
Voting 4-0, the City Council approved the first reading of the amended ordinance, which would ban "amusement devices" (tabletop machines often used for gambling), smoking (which is already banned, but this would be like a super ban), heavily tinted windows, and yes, the exposure of some lady (and man) bits.  

According to Raney, here's what must be covered up: "The top of the areola down, any portion of the male or female pubic region, and as odd as this sounds, the natal cleft, which in layman's terms, is the butt crack." 
 
He added, "We're not trying to regulate cleavage." 

Phew. 

Residents who attended the meeting supported the ordinance. "Waitresses leave the coffee shop not wearing anything but a sheer dress," Nguyen Uong told City Council members. "You can see 99 percent of their private parts. You can see shapes! This is indecent exposure. They say [the coffeehouses] are turning into gentlemen's clubs. I think it's a lot worse than that."    

Raney said one 12-year-old nudged his mother during lunchtime, saying, "Mom, look, there's a naked woman in there."  

Garden Grove has 37 coffeehouses, which include places like Starbucks, where servers wear clothes. The City Council discussed the possibility of differentiating these run-of-the-mill spots from the so-called "lingerie cafes" so different rules can be applied, specifically curfew laws. 

"The staff should define and separate the two businesses so we can treat them differently because they serve different clientele and different purposes," said Council Member Dina Nguyen.

Which just sounds like a bad idea. Racial profiling, I smell. 

The second reading of the ordinance happens on May 24.  

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mondoredondo
mondoredondo

In a county that makes so much money from tourists parading half naked on the beach, this is an extreme over-reaction. Did we get transported back to the fifties? I think some wives clubs are behind this. Sort your problems out at home ladies. The police have A LOT more important things on their plate.

pmarieantoniette
pmarieantoniette

i dont believe this is right because it is making the community look bad

americanlender12
americanlender12

Dammit...wtf do they care! we don't want these people in here anyways. Who gives a F*#@k what they wear beach, goers wear less when they sunbath in Newport or Huntington. .

Bill_Esparza
Bill_Esparza

I need coffee. Let them pour, let them pour, let them pour...All businesses should have these girls.  

breakfastinbeard
breakfastinbeard

It's the AMERICAN TALIBAN again.

 

"BURQAHS! BURQAHS FOR EVERYONE!"

Whophantom
Whophantom

What BS! I don't see pasties & the girls are covered up.

Cash
Cash

Garden Grove Cops sux. Go catch gang bangers not the bunnies you idiots

Otribj.
Otribj.

Maybe the cops are concerned the waitress/s are offering a "happy ending" with the coffee, or maybe they already are.

Jose Rangel
Jose Rangel

While the cops are busy messing with the coffee shops.. criminals are busy stealing your car and breaking into your home.  Cops are around to serve and protect. Not pass judement on clothing.

clvo
clvo

They DO serve damn good coffee.

Hunter
Hunter

Not in-line with the constitution. It's the old fashioned moral view of some against the freedom rights of all. Bye bye what America used to stand for.

kuewa
kuewa

This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. 

Teenwolf_03
Teenwolf_03

That's bull sh*t!!!!!!!!!! I'm from San Jose and I've been to down to LA just in the past 2 months and it was great if ppl that live down there don't like the gals and what they wear or lack wearing well no one is putting a gut to their head and making them go to the coffee shops so I say F*CK THEM and there are more important things to worry about then this petty bull sh*t that they are bickering about!!!

Briansays
Briansays

they need an outlet at Angels staduiumyears ago the original founder of the Ritz in Newport had a group of men called Ritz Brothersnot sure how you joined/got invited but it was a private group that reserved a banquet room for lunches occasionally and the waitresses all wore negligees

Combaticron
Combaticron

I'm so relieved to learn that Garden Grove's "authorities" have nothing better to do than to start sticking their noses into private businesses. That means they've solved all the crime and other pressing social problems, right?

Sam H.
Sam H.

Those sexy cafe getting too hot that I even saw the topless girls with only a small string thong served tea from a parking lot in front of a shop on Tully Rd of San Jose. What if your young kids saw that? And now with police investigated, those shops serve gambling & even selling drugs (or maybe selling sex too!) What if your college young adult getting into those places. Common, don't be selfish! Everybody needs to release stresses, but not in the way bringing negative effects to other peoplle life.

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

It sounds to me like the proposed regulations are being pushed down the throats of the City Council by The Chief. I have been to a couple of these places, and I find nothing wrong with them, I am sure some of the Vietnamese regulars do not like non-viets in "their" place, and people that gamble will find a way to do it anywhere.

LOL I wonder if anyone has considered a Chippendales type Coffee shop catering to women or...? I wish I had a body that I could flaunt and make enough to drive to work in a new Lexus or Mercedes. But I do not imagine many would pay to watch a scantily clad portly old white dude walking around serving tea! LOL

Mr. Rosewater
Mr. Rosewater

As a law-abiding citizen, I'd feel it necessary to admonish any waitress flaunting too much flesh while I sipped my jackfruit smoothie, but I've thankfully forgotten the Vietnamese for "areola" and "natal cleft."

"Jackfruit." Heh, heh.

Shelton Douglas
Shelton Douglas

This is fucking pathetic. All of you need something better to do than worry about regulating a place in which working men come for a release from the everyday stresses of life. Conservative America makes me sick.

drteeter
drteeter

Don't blame the police for doing their job.  Blame the City Council for thinking this made them look Concerned About Their Community.  The real pervert is the kind of person who would outlaw tinted windows so the police can look into all the shops, or who thinks long and hard about how to regulate the servers' clothing.

Culichi1967
Culichi1967

man, this is bringing back my asian fettish!actually, i stopped by to visit one of these as i exited a nearby restaurant. the girls caught my eyes as i walked near their establishment. they were all cute, friendly, and polite. i received the typical conversation that i normally get from a bartender working hard for a tip. nothing more , nothing less.i wont go back: $7 for an iced-tea. the eye candy was nice but it wasn't all that. these chinita viejas have beautiful skin, cute faces, fake boobs, but no NALGAS! i am a wab and i like to see a nice booty not a flat one... chinitas, when getting implants, ask for the 2 for 1 package to include nalgas....  

Biker Jim
Biker Jim

No doubt that the complainer on this subject is an over weight short haired bitter at life and self hating woman that can't stand the thought of some man she knows going in here and enjoying what he drinks and sees, or the wife of someone demanding that he take a stand.(same woman either way). Ever notice that you never see a hot woman bitching about hot women. Hmm !!. Biker Jim

NOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jen
jen

You are beautiful young ladies, however there are so many creeps out there I fear for you. Please be careful. And as far as the police go I am sure most of them have a lover or two besides their significant other... and they are enjoying the view.

Biga220
Biga220

The funny thing is the news didnt tell you that the garden grove cops like to hang out there and ogle over the girls too while theyre on duty

Tommydomain
Tommydomain

hey crybabies, your kids shouldnt be drinking coffee anyway, and make sure not to take them to the beach where they migh just see the same bikini on another girl..

Dockers
Dockers

No crimes been committed. Garden grove pd chief must not stopped all crime to worry about something like this.

cbird
cbird

So...what about the beach?

wow
wow

i love how gang activity is being blamed on women's bodies.

RobE
RobE

And the war on fun here in America continues.

T. Gunn
T. Gunn

would this ordinance then prohibit a bared midriff? everything from the "top of the areola down" would seem to include navels and kneecaps

Hi
Hi

Guess I know where I'm going for coffee today.

Twcponce
Twcponce

If u don't like it just don't go!!!!!!!! Si no te gusta no vayas!!!!!!!

Al
Al

"hooters hooters, yum yum yumHooters hooters, on a girl that's DUMB!"

GG
GG

Gotta love women with loads of makeup, little clothing, and no self-esteem!

cBc
cBc

wtf? There isn't any booze being served, so nobody gets out of control. Seriously, cops need to go fight crimes , not this lame Nanny crap.. I bet the city council happily accepts these businesses tax revenue each year. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot, do they think business will pickup after this arcane ordinance?

Phynithlor
Phynithlor

I see nothing wrong....I can find those revealing skins at the beach or Victoria secret mazagines.

pmarieantoniette
pmarieantoniette

@Mr. Rosewater im with you because cops and the public need to do something bout this

John
John

 i found some better places on rubmaps dot com

Ryufuriya55
Ryufuriya55

SERIOUSLY? Has no man or woman heard of HOOTERS? Ridiculous.....

kuewa
kuewa

You can show some bits at the beach, but you can't have a coffee business. Bits and coffee don't agree, apparently. 

Michelle Woo
Michelle Woo

No, the "top of the areola down" just applies to the breast. Good question.

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

Or, given the clientele: không thích, không đi!

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

Yea, all their "Self Esteem" goes into the bank account!

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

The Tactic is Regulate, then reap the profits from "Violation Notices" for petty violations of Laws Passed by a Police State. What the Chief is probably pissed about is they more than likely spend thousands of Undercover Manhours trying to get convictions for prostitution, but no prostitution occurred, & the DA determined there were no Violations of Law occurring. "Dammit! I KNOW they are dirty! I just cannot prove it"

Favian Orozco
Favian Orozco

Then emptied out when the rent's due.   What a great life they must live...

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