Gustavo,

It won't be long before Jerbal pops up here to defend his blue pals at the Lib OC...

Gustavo,

You might like this one...

http://orangejuiceblog.com/2010/02/the-liberal-oc-federal-lawsuit/

Since you asked, Pedroza...

Gustavo somehow failed to mention that after he bought those URLs and linked them to NAMBLA, Pedroza demanded Dan, Chris, etc. pay him thousands of dollars, and in return he'd sever the NAMBLA link and give them the URLs.

I'm sure you didn't deliberately omit that crucial fact, Gustavo. Otherwise, readers might wrongly conclude it's a morally equivalent tit-for-tat.

Matt,

Why did Dan acquire www.artpedroza.com?

Why did he provoke me?

Those are the questions you need to start with.

Sorry, Matt, but I doubt any of this would've happened if Dan hadn't bought Art's URL. If you can't play with fire, then don't. If the Weekly tried to sue everyone who bad-mouths us, we wouldn't have the time to keep putting your buddies in jail or expose their predilection to cover up for pedophiles.

First one who tries to touch anything bolsavik, gets a lawsuit too. Kekekek.

Gustavo,

If you want to back up the NAMBLA promoting Art Pedroza be my guest. Just keep that in mind next time you bitch about Matt Cunningham accidentally releasing the names of pedo abuse victims.

But really, for someone who so adamantly defends his copyrighted image for Ask A Mexican! I find your defense of Art's actions odd. If someone were to use your logo or business name to defame you or damage the value of your business, you would take the same action; particularly if that person had demanded thousands of dollars or "you would face the consequences."

Art used the name of Dan's business, which is incorporated and is by the fact that it has been used for years is a business trademark. Dan bought a domain name that Pedroza never owned. He left it undirected for months, before directing it to the April Fool's Day post on TheLiberalOC. That was done only after Pedroza crowed about Tom Daly being so stupid for not buying up a bunch of domain names related to offices he hoped to run for. That link was never publicized. There was no malicious direction of people to NAMBLA.

You take Art's position that none of this would have happened if Dan had not bought ArtPedroza.com. You may be right about that, but it doesn't excuse what Pedroza did. His actions actually violated the law. Dan's did not.

Dan never tried to profit from the domain, never publicized that Pedroza did not own his domain name and send people unwittingly to NAMBLA. Even if one were to excuse Pedroza's actions regarding Dan, there was no reason for him to do the same with my name, the business name of TheLiberalOC, Claudio Gallegos, Supervisor Janet Nguyen and her husband, Councilman Andrew Do, etc.

None of these people had anything to do with Dan's acquisition of ArtPedroza.com. And if Pedroza really wants to go for the “they started it first” defense, you may want to consider that if Pedroza had not screwed over Trabuco, he probably would not have even been willing to sell the domain.

Bottom line, Art Pedroza broke the law, he was asked to stop, and he refused. The only course available to correct what he had done, and was continuing to do up until the final deadline passed, was to protect our rights in court. Looks like we'll have to see what a judge has to say.

But hey, if you want to cast your lot in with Pederastry Promoting Pedroza...

Chris,

Not quite. You guys tried to extort me for $5,000 and you refused to trade URLs.

I checked the trademark database. No, there is no trademark for Dan's business. And you trademarked the phrase "Liberal OC" in January of this year. You did not trademark "Liberal OC blog."

I asked Ryan to sell me the URL in question. Instead he sold it to Dan. Why is that?

And it should be noted that I learned the trick of forwarding sites to nasty sites from Ryan himself! When Dina Nguyen sent out a campaign mailer with the wrong URL he bought it and forwarded it to an Asian gay porn site. You in fact wrote about this but did not attribute it to Ryan although you knew full well he did it.

This entire mess was completely avoidable. I did try to settle with you guys and I have the emails to prove it. But trying to force me to pay your lawyer $5,000 and then telling me I have to apologize to you, on my blog, after you approve the apology, is NOT a good faith settlement, is it?

If I sued you guys for every crappy thing you said about me I would never get out of court!

As Gustavo indicated, if you guys can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!

This case has no merit. It is all about punishing me for opposing your lame candidates, like Krom and Daly - and Janet Nguyen. It is ridiculous that you would waste a federal judge's time with such bullshit!

yawn...this is so downscale Leno-Conan-NBC. He said...he said. You guys sound like divorced parents arguing over who gets to tell the kids there's no Santa Claus.

Don't be concerned too much with a lawsuit filed by a sole practioner who has been practicing law in California for just over 4 years and graduated from a third tier law school.

I am amazed Cunningham is even daring to say anything. What he did to those poor sex-abuse victims by outing them on OC Blog is far worse than anything Art ever did to Dan and Chris. And the two excuse Cunningham's behavior while cry foul over what Art and his gang write about the Liberal OC. What arrogance and bullshit. Good luck in court with your CAIR (terrorists)-sympathizing lawyer, losers.

Esq? - George Washington is a third rate law school? Time to do a little more research.

Esq -- Anon is right. And while Todd may be a solo practitioner, he isn't the only atty working in the office.

Look, if Art had bought all those domains and simply re-directed them to his own blog, or to the OCGOP site, or something like that, it would just have been funny or maddening. But he didn't. He re-directed to NAMBLA. That's why it was a big deal. Hardly a simple "pissing match."

Gustavo, I respect the work you've done exposing the largest child sex abuse network in the world, the Roman Catholic Church. It's hard to believe you would look the other way when someone makes what amounts to an approving joke about the second largest such organization -- NAMBLA.

Chris: Actually, I only defend the copyright of the logo used for Ask a Mexican, a logo I don't own the rights to. It belongs to Mark Dancey, and I do at his request. People have ripped off my column in the past, and I don't care—I get flattered, really. As a matter of fact, some Kenyans (or maybe it was Nigerians) own the rights to askamexican.com. They wanted $1,000 for it; I laughed and bought askamexican.net. If they pointed it to some stupid, disgusting website, I wouldn't care—I think readers can distinguish the real deal from some joke.

Howard and Chris: Where did I defend Art on NAMBLA? That was a stupid joke on his part, but tell me what's ultimately more offensive: redirecting a link to NAMBLA, or defending a pedophile protector? Where's your outrage against Matt for that, Chris? The only post I remember you addressing Matt's love for the pedophile protector John Urell is something to the effect that I and others (mostly sex-abuse victims) who remind the world of what Matt did should lay off of him. Maybe it was in this scrubbed post?

http://www.theliberaloc.com/2009/06/25/what-is-it-about-blogs/

Yet you and Dan carry on with Matt like high-school boys sharing a cigarette in the bathroom, so spare me your faux outrage with Art and NAMBLA.

Sorry to go off topic, but since you bring up the Cunningham/Urell issue I have something to say.

I know people who have found out that a friend or acquaintance of theirs is a molester or accused molester. They consistently respond with anger and disbelief. The reason is that Hollywood has portrayed molesters as nasty people -- which is anything but the truth.

The average molester (yes I do know some) is a very kind, charismatic, and charming person. If they were the kind of evil person shown in movies and TV, how would they get their victims to "fall" for them?

Since molesters don't fit the picture most people have in their mind of what a molester must be like (in fact, they are the complete opposite) their friends are certain the allegations are false. (And as a tragic result, the victims are often blamed.)

You know this, Gustavo, and I know this. But it seems Matt does not know it. Probably Fr. Urell doesn't know it, or at least he didn't know it when he was chancellor.

Instead of bashing Matt and others who defend Urell and other protectors of the abusers, and thereby making them defensive, we need to educate them.

Matt Cunningham outed sex-abuse victims.

Chris,

I think you hit the wrong link.

SHOULD'NT YOU BE POSTING ON "The District" website.

GO HOME

Comparing Matt Cunninham/Jubal defense of Fr. Urell to Art's move is like comparing the TITANIC to The little girl who failed in sailing around the world last week!

Whats up with that? is a heavy breathing phone call the same as sodomy?

I read the reports, Urell covered up for ASS RAPE, and Matt/Jubal defended him.REPEATEDLY.

How does this even equate?

Keep up the spin.

Chris Prevatt says:
Gustavo,

.........Just keep that in mind next time you bitch about Matt Cunningham accidentally releasing the names of pedo abuse victims.

Accidentally??? Thats about as much of an accident as drinking a bottle of Scotch and crashing into a house! I did'nt mean too!

What if it was some bloggers kid that got repeatedly RAPED by a priest, Teacher, Pastor, Coach, Layperson only to be told "It will harm the church", or "Are you sure it was'nt her fault". WTF.

This was no accident it was a wanna be player defending the CO-CONSPRIRIANT in CHILD RAPE.

To claim otherwise shows your selfish motives.

As for Jerbal. Hopefully his neighbors and asscocites know that he thinks it's OK to defend people who FUCK CHILDREN.

BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID. PERIOD!

NAMBLA also thinks it's ok to fuck children. The entire purpose of NAMBLA is fucking of children.

North American Man-Boy "Love" Association.

Male adults fucking male children. Terrific group for Art to "get behind," right?

Howard: I agree with you regarding the approach to pedo-apologists, and that's all I've ever done--put out the facts. After that, if the apologists don't want to accept them and play stupid, the sin is on them. Matt knows exactly what John Urell did, yet still speaks reverently of him—again, much sicker that Art's sick NAMBLA joke. But, hey: that's just the opinion of a guy who's spent the last six years uncovering the pedo-apologists among us.

Why am I not surprised that Todd Gallinger is representing Liberal OC?

The Liberal OC Blog blindly promoted Gallinger during the 2008 City Council race, because he was on Larry Agran's slate. Never mind the scandal after scandal that came out about Gallinger, the most egregious being his working for and representing in court entities that raise money for extremist groups such as Hamas.

So I guess that Gallinger is just returning the favor.

I find it quite disingenous for Chris Prevatt to say, "But hey, if you want to cast your lot in with Pederastry Promoting Pedroza...".

He and the others that are promoting this "talking point" know good and well that this is not what Art was doing. It was dark humor and perhaps in bad taste, but in no way was he promoting pedophilia and Prevatt knows this.

As Gustavo pointed out Prevatt and Dan C. have continuously defended Matt Cunningham's outing of Catholic church sex abuse victims. I notice that they have since scrubbed their blog of these comments, but we all remember them. They until recently had a link to Cunningham's blog. So I guess you can say they were promoting "pedastry enablers".

I also find it quite comical that they are trying to sue over the fact that the URL for Ryan Gene Williams was directed to a gay pornography site. Chris Prevatt crowed about and laughed at the fact that URL's connected to Dina Nguyen and Hoa Van Tran had been redirected to gay pornography sites.

You can read those posts here: http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/16/now-hoa-doesnt-know-his-website-address/

And here: http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/02/dina-nguyen-send-out-her-first-mailer/

Ryan Gene Williams is the person responsible for these URL's being directed to gay pornography sites and Prevatt was well aware of this. Where was his outrage then?

Prevatt and the others are nothing more than hypocrites. If this does go to court and the truth comes out, it will not bode well for Chris, Ryan, Janet Nguyen, Tom Bonikowski and the other sychophants in that stable.

"Matt knows exactly what John Urell did, yet still speaks reverently of him—again, much sicker than Art's sick NAMBLA joke."

Does Cunningham actually defend what Urell did? I doubt it. I think we're dealing here with a case of "love the sinner, hate the sin."

I know, slightly, a couple of men who were convicted of molesting children. Both are very pleasant guys who I don't mind socializing with. I wouldn't ask them to babysit my kids, but I'd share an adults-only activity with them. (And I think they need normal adult relationships in order to fix whatever problem they have that caused them to want to do what they did.)

I don't excuse the awful things they did to their victims, and I pray they are sincerely remorseful and will not do it again. But I also do not believe they are completely without any good qualities.

Well, shit, Howard: Hitler gave jobs to a lot of people! And Ted Bundy contributed to our economy by buying cans of hairspray! And Michael Harris, while not buggering boys in the Mater Dei principal's office, was planning Santa Margarita High! For you to not mind socializing with CONVICTED child molesters is simply sick, but it's your life. And, yes: Matt defended Urell and lambasted those of us who dared told the public how Urell protected pedophiles.