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Jubal's Lack of Humility
Posted by Gustavo Arellano in Naranja News
March 3, 2008 9:38 AM
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One of my favorite college experiences happened at Orange Coast in the late 1990s, when my Bible as Lit professor told us there was no way Moses wrote the Pentateuch as tradition maintained for millenia because of Deuteronomy 34:10. The passage stated, "No prophet ever again arose" like Moses, a boast that flew in the face of his documented humility in the Bible. "If Moses really was humble, he wouldn't have written that," the professor stated.
I share the above anecdote as a roundabout way of criticizing Red County/OC Blog's recently revealed list of Orange County's Top 40 Influential Politicos. Most of the names aren't a surprise given the county's political landscape--mostly conservative, mostly Republican operatives. One of the picks is Matt Cunningham--and that's where the problem lies.
Per the entry:
OC's vibrant political blogosphere started with the launching of the pioneering OC Blog in June 2004. Writing under the nom-du-blog "Jubal", Cunningham filled a void in local political coverage and established OC Blog as a very influential source of insider news and commentary.
Who wrote the entry? Cunningham.
Matt: We agree with your self-written entry--OC Blog is muy important to the county's political landscape, Top 40 important. But ever heard of conflict of interest (wait: you have)? You shouldn't write a list about influential folks and include yourself in it, even if it's true--at least that's what us remaining MSMers believe with our antiquated ethics. If you insist on including yourself in Red County's list--and, again: I agree with the choice--get someone else to write it. Otherwise, you come off as a braggart.
And point of order: Art Pedroza's Orange Juice! started the county's political blogosphere back in 2003--and you've admitted direct inspiration to start OC Blog from Orange Juice! in the past. Correction, por favor!
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March 3, 2008 11:28
and this comes as some kind of surprise to you gustavo? seriously?
it's like complaining to a goose for flying south.
March 3, 2008 11:49
Maybe you're right, seracho, but I always give media-style folks the benefit of the doubt--or perhaps I'm too optimistic in these deals?
March 3, 2008 15:11
At least now he's admittedly writing about himself in the third person. Remember back when he posted on FlashReport talking about how clever Jubal on OCBlog was, while posting on OCBlog as Jubal about how clever Matt Cunningham on FlashReport was?
It's one thing to claim anonymity as a defense against retaliation - but to use your alter-egos to give yourself the whiff of credibility? That's kinda sad.
March 3, 2008 15:33
Gustavo:
1) While the task of writing the entries fell to me, mine wasn't the sole hand involved in crafting the list. In other words, I didn't include my name in it.
2) I probably should have had someone else write. It was past deadline for the magazine and the whip was being cracked, so I just cranked them out, including my entry. Sorry, but I was too much of a rush to farm it out to Scott Graves.
And point of order: Art Pedroza's Orange Juice! started the county's political blogosphere back in 2003--and you've admitted direct inspiration to start OC Blog from Orange Juice! in the past. Correction, por favor!
Yes, Art's blog was first. He created a Blogspot blog and pasted his e-newsletter into it. It was sporadic and never made a mark before going defunct for several months before I even started OC Blog.
Also, I've never said it was the direct inspiration for starting OC Blog, because it wasn't. I'd never heard of it until I was Googling around in May 2004 while I was planning the launch of OC Blog and wanted to see if there were any other Orange County blogs.
There was no OC blogosphere before I started OC Blog. I'm not bragging. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
Finally, it's strange being taken to task on this by a guy who freely admits to being a shameless self-promoter!
March 3, 2008 15:45
It's one thing to claim anonymity as a defense against retaliation - but to use your alter-egos to give yourself the whiff of credibility? That's kinda sad.
Glad to see you mind-reading abilities are as powerful as ever, Alex. Somehow, you are able to read my thoughts and divine my motivations. Not unlike Paul Brennan/Will Will Swaim believed they could and pass it off as fact.
Too bad you're wrong. You can always cal me if you have questions about that phase of my blogging career. I assume you still have all my numbers. Then again, so did Swaim and Brennan. Never heard from them either.
March 3, 2008 15:57
Seriously?
You'd think that Jubal would have learned something from the last time he got caught self-promoting while hiding behind his online identity.
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: bloggers need to step up and use their real names. I understand that anonymity helps a writer avoid retribution, but at what cost?
As my mom always says, "Oh what a tangled web we weave when we use a dumb nom-de-plume on a blog."
March 3, 2008 16:40
Gustavo (AKA: shameless self-promoter),
If Cunningham could promote himself, he would. I sense a tone of jealousy, que no? We've seen and heard Gustavo in public, so eloquent. Cunningham, on the other hand, please. He should continue to hide behind his video camera, and for god's sake, please don't talk. His latest (self promoting) venture at radio talk is horrible.
His writing is also terrible to say the least, and he has the audacity to call you names. Maybe he feels comfortable, because he knows he won't be deleted as common practice on the OC Blog. We could go on and on Gustavo, but it's boring. Just his ridiculous idea that there was no OC blogosphere before Cunningham is enough!
Me thinks Cunninham(AKA Jubal) is still peeved about OC Weekly outing him.
March 3, 2008 16:42
You'd think that Jubal would have learned something from the last time he got caught self-promoting while hiding behind his online identity.
Et tu, Lawson?
"Caught"? What exactly have I been "caught" at, Mike? What secret identity was I "hiding" behind with today's Top 40 list?
Funny how you never seemed to mind my nom-du-blog whenever I linked to, praised or otherwise encouraged OC Blog readers to visit your TheLiberalOC.com blog.
March 3, 2008 16:48
It's one thing to plug your work again and again and again like me, quite another to make a list and include yourself in it. Maybe it's just me, but something about Best Of lists suggests the author keep themselves out of it. Also, I apologize for not being clearer--I didn't mean "include" as in you throwing yourself into the list at the expense of others; I meant "include" as in allowing your name to remain on the list and writing it. Just seemed strange, is all!
La Policia: Um, thanks?
March 3, 2008 17:12
I think it is just you, Gustavo. This is petty ankle-biting.
You don't disagree per se with my inclusion in the list. Other than your incorrect assertion regarding Orange Juice, you don't even disagree with the description.
So your only point is I should have tried to nix my inclusion out of a sense of false humility?
It's one thing to plug your work again and again and again like me, quite another to make a list and include yourself in it.
Well then -- it must be true!
Only I didn't "make" the list. I winnowed it down from a very large list of names submitted by readers. I added some that weren't on it -- and my name wasn't among those.
Again, Gustavo, my inclusion wasn't an act of self-promotion. I can't hold a candle to a candle to you in that department.
March 3, 2008 17:58
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: bloggers need to step up and use their real names. I understand that anonymity helps a writer avoid retribution, but at what cost?
I disagree. I blog under my name, but if a person wants to blog under a pseudonym I have no problem with it. It's not always a case of fear of retribution -- sometimes it's a city commissioner, campaign staffer, or elected official who wants to be able to express opinions (unrelated to his/her position) without having to be "on the record." I think that's totally legit.
March 3, 2008 18:00
Jubal; I'm not wrong.
On April 25, 2006, when you came out of the closet in your "I Am Jubal" post, you wrote:
1) The "protection of pseudonymity" = defense against retaliation
2) Jubal praised Matt Cunningham. Matt Cunningham praised Jubal. You bolstered your own credibility.
Tell me where I went wrong. Tell me where I had to rely on my so-called "mind reading abilities". And be specific. If you please.
March 3, 2008 18:01
This isn't "petty ankle-biting," it's a simple matter of hoping you might be more humble. Obviously, you don't particularly care, especially with your outlandish claim that "there was no OC blogosphere before I started OC Blog." What's your definition of a blogosphere? Get this: I ended my personal blog (where I wrote quite a bit about SanTana politics) just as you started yours, and my friends and I ran a blog about Latino politics in OC (no longer up) back in 2002 and each kept blogs--and there were other folks who wrote blogs--Mike's Daily Lockup started in April 2003, for one. The OC blogosphere wasn't as large then as it is now, but to cast yourself as a pioneer of the overall OC blogosphere is hubris of the kind I never associated with you until now.
March 3, 2008 18:24
Alex:
Do they offer logic classes at law school? If so, I suggest you enroll in one.
You're citing some of my reasons for blogging pseudonymously. Then you illogically impute that to the relationship between my blogging on OC Blog and for FR.
And see Gila's comment, because she ably elucidates other "protections of pseudonimity."
March 3, 2008 18:52
Matt, don't play dumber. I was addressing your claim that I was wrong, pointing out that the only two claims I make are substantiated by just what you cited - basic logic.
I hope you enjoy dumbing down basic human discourse for the sake of a little e-exposure
March 3, 2008 19:38
Alex:
Your comment wouldn't pass a basic truth table. Your comment is sophistry, not logical argument.
March 3, 2008 20:25
I have to stand up for Matt here. Nobody at the Weekly minded when I overthrew the will of the OC Weekly readers' poll people and named myself Orange County's Best Citizen, or all the times I wanked supreme about how fiiiine the OC Weekly staff was for OC's Sexiest People (although, yeah, they didn't get a slot--get it? Get it? Wwhee!). Not the same as his long-ago pseudonym stunts, which really were stupid.
March 3, 2008 20:26
This isn't "petty ankle-biting," it's a simple matter of hoping you might be more humble.
I'll keep that in mind next time I run across the routine horn-tooting in the OC Weekly about an important, fearless trailblazer it is.
Obviously, you don't particularly care, especially with your outlandish claim that "there was no OC blogosphere before I started OC Blog." What's your definition of a blogosphere?
Good point. I should have been more specific, because when I refer to the OC blogosphere, I'm talking about the OC political blogosphere.
By that I mean a persistent blogosphere where news and commentary is presented on a regular - daily, really -- basis (and in the case of OC Blog, several times a day). A blogosphere to which the OC politerati paid attention, reacted to, took into account and interacted with.
And that started in Orange County with OC Blog. Prior to OC Blog, it didn't exist.
Yes, there were Orange Countians with blogs before I started OC Blog. But what did they blog about? Orange County politics? Or was it a sporadic postings about national politics or "This is what I did today"?
No disrespect to "Mike's Daily Lock-Up" or "Metroblogging OC" or "A Day In The Life Of Gustavo," but did the Register launch Total Buzz and Orange Punch in response to competition from them? Or was it because the OC demographic interested in political news was increasingly turning first to OC Blog?
That's not bragging. It's just a recognition of reality.
The OC blogosphere wasn't as large then as it is now, but to cast yourself as a pioneer of the overall OC blogosphere is hubris of the kind I never associated with you until now.
I'm up to "hubris" now, huh?
Again, I should have specified the OC "political" blogosphere.
March 3, 2008 20:31
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March 3, 2008 22:38
Gustavo,
Gracias for mentioning the Orange Juice. We did indeed take a break for a year...but came back much stronger with Claudio Gallegos on board. It cracks me up that he and I used to be polar opposites...and now we pretty much agree on most things.
BTW, "ankle-biting" sounds like something Matt's Amigo John Urell and his wayward Catholic priests would do...
March 4, 2008 08:19
Maybe Jubal should get some counseling from his church Pastor.
March 4, 2008 09:14
well rebecca the difference is that you are funny and cute while jubal is just a thin skinned duplicitous ass.
see?
March 4, 2008 13:53
Since my site is mentioned, Jubal I feel no disrespect.
You do have a point Orange Juice, while it was first, it took a while to hit it stride. OC Blog served as a reference to what was going on in the county republican circles.
As for the OC Metroblog it is more social in nature then political.
I think the issue here is that you wrote your own article. I'm siding with Rebecca on this one.
As for the "blogosphere" it was non-existant when O-juice and OC Blog took to the web. They both get some credit for paving the way for the OC-Centric "blogosphere."
Just my two cents.
March 4, 2008 14:54
If we're talking about political websites, then my comment about O-Juice and OC Blog paving the way is accurate.
If we are talking about "blogging" in general terms. Then Mike's Daily Lock Up can take some credit as being an early blog in the overall OC "Blogosphere."
(Typed up the previous comment on my iPhone at lunch and had to clarify my statement)