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By Spencer Kornhaber, Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 3:32PM
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Today, Dr. Orly Taitz Esq., the Laguna Niguel dentist, lawyer and real estate agent who is attempting to sue Barack Obama out of office, appeared before Judge David O. Carter in Santa Ana's Ronald Reagan Federal Courthouse. The occasion: a hearing in her lawsuit, Barnett vs Obama. We were there.

Midway through the hour-and-change hearing, it became clear that in Taitz's mind, today was going to be a day straight out of a Dean Koontz-Dan Brown mash-up novel. It didn't quite turn out that way.

A few weeks ago, a YouTube video surfaced showing what was purported to be Barack Obama's original birth certificate, obtained in Mombasa, Kenya (this is different from the other Kenyan birth certificate that got so much press last month for being a likely hoax). Just a few days ago, a man named Lucas Smith came forward with an image of that certificate. Taitz got him to submit a declaration into the court's record on Sept. 3 stating how he came to obtain the certificate. She flew him out, picked him up from the airport this morning and took him to the courthouse -- where he would, in her expectation, testify at today's hearing and blow open this whole usurper-president thing.

Judge David Carter, though, didn't seem to want to allow any theatrics in the courtroom other than his own. Today's hearing was largely about procedural matters, not the merits of the case, and Taitz had given zero warning to the defense that she would be attempting to call a witness. Taitz begged with him to overlook that fact. Other people who had the potential to expose Obama had turned up dead, she said. She herself had faced death threats. "If, God forbid, something happen to this witness, we'll have his testimony today," she said.

Carter's got an interesting act going on. He appears extremely sympathetic to the idea that the question of Barack Obama's legitimacy needs to be examined in court. Time and again, he said he want to eventually hear the case on its merits, and even went ahead and set a whole slew of dates into early 2010 for the hypothetical future trial. He stressed that he was taking steps to speed up the process. But, he said, the case had already been swamped in a "procedural quagmire" of Taitz's own making.

Today's hearing was about three issues. The first: service. Taitz and her followers had attempted to "serve" Barack Obama with notice of their suit a number of times, each time legally incorrect. But at today's hearing, the government's attorney said the defendant had been properly served. This elicited a stream of congratulations from Carter, who called the government's cooperation "exemplary."

The second issue was a snit on the plaintiff's side. Taitz had originally worked with attorney Gary Kreep in Wiley Drake's lawsuit against Obama, the case that has since blossomed into Barnett v. Obama. At some point, Kreep, Drake and co-plaintiff Markham Robinson decided to part ways with Taitz. Taitz refused to sign a change-of-attorney form, and then filed a motion stating Drake and Robinson's desire to be removed from the lawsuit. Those two plaintiffs say they authorized Taitz to do no such thing. Carter, very much taking the tone of a teacher scolding children, called a 15-minute recess and told Taitz and Kreep to work it out. When court resumed, Taitz lit into Kreep with a litany of ways that she said he had botched the suit against Obama. Carter wasn't pleased. "I think what I'm going to do is force you two together [in one lawsuit]," Carter said. "I don't know if I can legally do this, you can take it to the 9th Circuit if you like and delay it longer." He then made the two bickering lawyers move their chairs next to one another. "I'm very visual," he said. "I need to see you two as one."

The third issue was Taitz's motion to recuse Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato for bias. The reason? Nakazato struck down one of Taitz's actions for largely technical reasons, even though Carter had assured her in court that he didn't want the case to get  bogged down in technicalities. Today, Carter didn't oblige, saying that his comments were not intended to provide Taitz a "carte blanche" to ignore legal rules.

On Oct. 5, the court will hear the government's motion to dismiss the case and Taitz's motion for discovery to begin. As World Net Daily quickly began hyping, Carter did set a tentative trial date for Jan. 26, a trial that will only happen in what Carter called "the worst case scenario" for both sides. With about 100 spectators showing up and milling about in the courthouse hallway beforehand for hours to see today's proceedings, Carter didn't provide the thriller-novel witness trial Taitz had seemed to want, but he did provide some nice world-hangs-in-the-balance rhetoric: "It does the country no good to sit in a state of question."

For a blow-by-blow recap, check out this wrap-up from the Orly-watchers at Politijab.

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Anonymous says:

GET REAL HE IS A PRESIDENT THAT IS DOING A GOOD JOB, THE MAJORITY ELECTED HIM FOR HIS CHARACTER AND ABILITY

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 6:22PM
Gordon says:

If one calls a "Good Job" destroying the nation and making the United States the laughing stock of the world then I guess you could say he is doing a good job.

We know nothing about the man, he refuses to release any information about himself. No birth certificate, no college records, no passport information.. nothing. His life is a total mystery.

He is not fit to serve and should be put out of office immediately.

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:35PM
diane says:

What character? All I see is a lack thereof,and are you referring to his ability to read off the teleprompter?
But you are right he is doig a grat job of trying to destroy this country.

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:40PM
24AheadDotCom says:

Over at Wikipedia, there's been a discussion (peekURL.com/zd6orif) about an article the same writer wrote about this issue. A statement he made that's almost assuredly false is considered acceptable to Wikipedia since he's what they call a "reliable source". Meanwhile, my page where I point out that what he said was almost assuredly false isn't "admissible" to Wikipedia since - unlike Spencer - I don't write for a "reliable source" like the OC Weekly.

Maybe Spencer would care to clear things up and admit he was wrong:

http://24ahead.com/spencer-kornhaber-misleads-about-obama-citizenship-issue-cha

He is, after all, a "reliable source" (at least to Wikipedia).

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:42PM
NOBAMA says:

ANONYMOUS I couldn't agree with you more, he is doing a good job at destroying the country and if you haven't noticed lately his numbers are tanking!

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:48PM
David Farrar says:

Great, maybe, just maybe we can get a court to do a little bit more than Obama has done to prove he has met his constitutional requirements than post a jpg on a website and have two of his Annenberg cronies proclaim it authentic.

ex animo
davidfarrar

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:49PM
Lori says:

Get Real...he was elected by a majority for his center right campaigning. Now that he's shown himself to be a socialist / facist, he's losing the independants and moderates that elected him. It wouldn't happen again today and won't happen in 2012.

He doesn't have character...he is one.

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:52PM
Joan says:

I want this "Discovery" to be done ASAP so that either the REAL President can continue to govern our country or the USURPER President can be arrested and/or deported!

Whichever side you believe...why wouldn't Discovery be the best thing?????

-Joan

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:56PM
Joan says:

David, not only a JPG; but a JPG with a Photoshop 'signature' on the file. We ALL know that everything that comes out of Photoshop is 100% authentic, right?

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 7:59PM
Big Brother says:

I can't wait until October when Orly returns to court, and Judge Carter tells her the rules of procedure don't matter, she is right, and discovery can start immediately and oh wait, that's a total fantasy

The Birthers cannot comprehend "discovery" is a two way street. I doubt any of the above posters want to show tax returns, employment and credit history, and every other last detail about their lives to the u.s. attorneys.

But surprise, if you are an Orly supporter and this goes to discovery, your life from age 0 to now will be examined. Enjoy the videotaped depositions you all will be sompelled to give by the court!!!

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 8:02PM
SKR says:

"Hope and change" is why Obama's voters elected him; that they are willing to accept in-your-face corruption, socialism (even outright communism!) and tossing out the Constitution tells the rest of us just how much the majority doesn't understand about their inherent rights. Some of us aren't that willing to let government run our lives.

Obama's character is such that he still votes "present" until forced to do otherwise, and his ability to permanently campaign has yet to translate into Constitutional leadership. Oddly enough, for all of his vaulted education, he has little sense of American history or of economic history in which socialism has never, ever been as succesful as American capitalism. It makes one wonder what they were teaching during Obama's university years.

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 8:10PM
joe horn says:

How's that change working out for all you old folks like me that voted for him?

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 8:17PM
E Howard Bailey says:

You Obots need to read up on what we've got sitting in our White House:


http://www.theobamafile.com/


The United States
Library of Congress
has selected
TheObamaFile.com
for inclusion in its
historic collection
of Internet materials

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 8:48PM
CHS says:

Just a couple of comments:

- Don't y'all think that good ol' Hillary would have dredged up this Kenyan birth certificate back in, say, early 2008 if it had any credence at all?

- I need notice of any future Orly court appearances...I know it's wrong but it feels so right!

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 9:15PM
aarrgghh says:

so let's tally up the score, shall we?

1) orly wanted to complete service of her lawsuit on the justice dept. granted!

2) orly wanted to part ways with co-counsel gary kreep. denied!

3) orly wanted judge nakazato tossed off the case since he tossed her motion for expedited discovery re the kenyan bc. denied!

4) orly wanted the forger "discoverer" of the kenyan bc to testify in court. denied!

5) orly wanted the trial expedited before jan. 26 2010. denied!

6) the justice dept wanted the case dismissed. hearing scheduled for oct. 5.

of course, not getting the case tossed out again was a humongous win for birfistan. i hear the troops are marching the usurper out the white house as we speak ...

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 10:48PM
six of one, half dozen of the other says:

The President "has shown himself to be a socialist /facist"(sic). You intellectual midgets are a barrel of monkeys. Perhaps you might switch Fox News off for an evening and brush up on your political and economic vocabularies, not to mention philosophies... that is, before you choose to repeatedly post your poorly crafted drivel under a host of different names.

Tell me, where were you lemmings when President Bush expanded the size, scope, and cost of the federal government more than any president since FDR?? Were you standing amongst those "big government conservatives"? When he surrounded himself with Trotskyites wearing elephant buttons? Where were you when the Bush administration gleefully usurped our civil liberties? How about when President Bush referred to the US Constitution as "just a God damned piece of paper"? Where were your shrill protests then? Hypocrites.

Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 8 2009 @ 11:57PM
6 vs 1/2 dozen says:

SKR... "tossing out the Constitution" hey? Too late, your raging neo-commie boy, George Bush had already disposed of it, and in mighty blunt terms. "Don't keep throwin' that thing (US Constitution) at me.... it's just a God damned piece of paper". Look it up SKR.

Though I don't share the current President's philosophy, it sure is a relief to finally hear English spoken properly from the Oval Office. And if he is "foreign born", he sure has mastered the English language... whereas our previous commander in chief clearly wasn't fluent in any known language.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 12:04AM
John Paul Telhomme says:

Great reporting.... I loved it unlike the others.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 12:23AM
bob says:

Judge Carter deserves the Lance Ito Award for judicial economy.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 4:23AM
jbjd says:

No documentation produced now, through discovery, can establish that at the time the DNC Certified to state elections officials BO's Constitutional eligibility to hold the D nomination for POTUS to get his name printed on the general election ballot, the party had first ascertained whether he is a Natural Born Citizen. MODEL COMPLAINT OF ELECTION FRAUD TO STATE A'sG

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 5:27AM
Gustavo Arellano says:

I'm not sure who's stupider--the Birthers or the Truthers. Spencer: help?

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 6:52AM
Anonymous says:

You so called "Birthers" are a bunch of morons. Are you people serious? You complained for years about how people treated that tyrannical nut, George W. Bush, during what was, and will go down as the worst presidency in the history of this country, and now you have the gull to not give this young, aspiring president a chance on one issue, not even his citizenship. Come on! Get Real! And all of us sane Americans see right through your act. You just can't accept that our president is Black! I'm sure you wouldn't question a White President's nationality like that? And you want to talk about destroying the constitution and ruining America, how about Bush's Patriot Act, among a slew of other poorly crafted policies the former president designed to take away our rights as citizens and expand government. Socialist, fascist, communist, whatever "word" you prefer to just throw around, I am sure you couldn't define either without a dictionary and you would probably miss quote that just to try to prove your point - that's how you people are. It are these same attitude that we have been hearing from "Birthers" that has been ruining this country for the past eight years, not President Obama, who has only been in office for eight months. If we let you freaks have your way we would all be living in a dictatorship run by some right-wing nut who prefers god and guns over freedom and justice. And while I have some complaints with how President Obama has handled a few specific issues since taking office, and his numbers have plummeted, he will win reelection in 2012 because: 1. The Republicans have no one to run. 2. The Republicans continue to make themselves look like idiots by doing things like questioning Obama's birth right. And 3. No one wants to live in an America that preaches hate and fear anymore. And if you don't like it, well than, just get out!

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 6:59AM
Eric says:

Orly Taitz is the perfect spokesperson for the crazy nutcase right wing. She has no idea of reality and makes Sarah Palin look lucid. The worst thing is the taxpayers money that is being spent on her crazy lawsuits. Where is the right wing outrage about "frivolous lawsuits" now?

As for the inane people who say Obama is "destroying the nation," please do us all a favor and shut up! We had 8 years of a puppet dictator with the intelligence of a slug. Bush was an idiot used by Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. to control the country. They spied illegally on Americans, used torture thousands of times breaking laws and the Geneva Conventions and made us a joke around the world. Remember Katrina idiots? Remember the illegal war in Iraq they lied about? Unbelievable how stupid so many people are, but in American you are free to be a complete and total idiot.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 7:18AM
Cesar says:

Can we now line up these white fucktards on the firing line and hit the auto button?
Dudes, your fucktard of a former president will one day go down as the WORST of the worst. And hopefully you will feel nolstagic about it 50 yrs from now. Man, it's scary how so many people get 'informed'. Thx for the comic relief.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 8:00AM
Ron in GA says:

I am amazed that the media will not give this lady any credit for her tenacious work ethic in wanting to get to the bottom of this situation. Why is it that so many are blinded by the Obama glitz. Is he constitutionally eligible to hold the office of Prez? Don't know, and that is the issue. It is likely that he is, but don't we the people that elected him have a right to know for sure. The Prez could have ended all of this speculation a long time ago by releasing his records. What does he have to hide?

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 11:32AM
Jesus says:

She was sent by Russia to
destabilize America.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 12:17PM
Anonymous says:

HITLER AND STALIN WERE ALSO VERY GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKERS, IF THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU..

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 5:57PM
p. barnett says:

Hitler and Stalin were also very good public speakers... Obots you are so stupid.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 5:58PM
Geir (Gerhardt) Smith says:

obama antichrist

Posted On: Thursday, Sep. 10 2009 @ 2:59AM
Geir (Gerhardt) Smith says:

I don't think he's the antichrist just bec i think so but bec the marks of the beast were drawn in the numbers of the Ilinois Lottery on election day
Either u have faith or not
If not that's ur choice
Live with it bec this is the single chance

Posted On: Thursday, Sep. 10 2009 @ 3:04AM
Mary Adams says:

"I'm very visual," he said. "I need to see you two as one."

Hahahahaha! Sure Judge Carter.

Posted On: Thursday, Sep. 10 2009 @ 3:51PM
Anonymous says:

There sure seems to be a lot of right-wing conservatives that read this left-leaning newspaper.

I'm just saying..........

Posted On: Friday, Sep. 11 2009 @ 7:42AM
FishWithoutBicycle says:

Cesar: Are you absolutely positive that all the fucktards in the world are WHITE? Or would you just advocate eliminating all the light-skinned folks and save you the trouble of trying to sort them out? Would you even consider lining up any non-white fucktards before your firing squad, too? Probably not. Fucktards come in all races and colors, asshole! I'm getting really tired of all your ignorant, racist comments implying that it's all "whitey’s” fault the world is fucked up. Oh really? Sounds like YOU’RE a fucktard, yourself.

Posted On: Friday, Sep. 11 2009 @ 2:43PM
JNagarya says:

"Gordon says:

"If one calls a "Good Job" destroying the nation and making the United States the laughing stock of the world then I guess you could say he is doing a good job."

Only one problem with that comment: the Bush criminal enterprise is no longer in office.

"We know nothing about the man, he refuses to release any information about himself. No birth certificate, no college records, no passport information.. nothing. His life is a total mystery."

Actually all that is false. But the racists whose heads are exploding because an African-American was actually elected -- and by a comfortable margin -- don't realize that said exploding has caused them irreparable, probably mortal, brain damage.


He is not fit to serve and should be put out of office immediately.

Posted On: Friday, Sep. 18 2009 @ 2:38PM
Anon says:

This is about the largest concentration of asinine commentary I've seen recently. Boo-hoo Obama was elected. Boo-hoo he has bent over backwards trying to reach out to people beyond the center right. He's governed as a center-right executive so far (unless you're even farther right and have the education of a turnip, in which case he's an islamofascist socialist bent on destroying white culture). He was elected legally, and despite whatever mental gymnastics you try to do with your crude understanding of the American legal system, will remain so. There is literally more concrete "proof" that the moon landing was faked then that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. Birthers are off the crazy train and because of the nature of their insanity, there's probably no way they're ever going to admit they're wrong or acknowledge any contradictory information, ever, under any circumstances. To them Obama is illegitimate and they will clutch to any notion that supports that.

Why? Is it because he is black? A democrat? Because he was raised outside of "mainstream" American culture? Other? Is it because he's socialist (he's not, only people without any basic understanding of modern civic government or socialism actually believe this)? Is it because he's fascist (he's not, only people who are drooling idiots and running out of political smear words that sound terrible actually believe this)? I'm tired of using soft words for this. People literally have no understanding of the Constitution or the philosophy that it was written in to claim he's acting in some vague unconstitutional way (and I'm sure the irony of holding up the Constitution as a sacred bastion of small, conservative government is completely lost on most of these people).

Right-wing nutjobs scream and cry "about destroying the country" and can barely articulate any real objection beyond some snippet they've copy/pasted from elsewhere or a canned answer that they can regurgitate from a pundit.

God, such a joke, how ignorant some people can be. And how disgusting the people using that ignorance for personal gain are.

Posted On: Thursday, Oct. 1 2009 @ 10:44PM

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