Hopefully Frank Mickadeit gets the axe. The guy is a complete egotistical biased jerk.

I agree about Frank. Also Corky Carroll. I still can';t believe that Robin Hinch got the axe. She is an excellent writer; writing about the dearly departed. Also I hope that Taryl Zarnow gets the boot. She's always bragging about her spoiled brat daughter.. And saying negative things about her sons and her husband. Bye, bye.. One can only hope...

Try to remember, folks, that 110 people are going to be out on the streets this week, thanks to poor management decisions. I feel bad for every one of those people, especially since it was someone else's ineptness that lost them their jobs.

Channel 7 said this is the fourth round this year for the paper. How those employees make it through the day confounds me.

How many employees are still left at the Register? Pretty soon there won't be any employees, only free-lancers and independent contractors. If anyone has to go, I vote for Yvette Cabrera.

As a former employee of the register, in the 90's
you had a totally different atmosphere. Management
inspired and motivated employees to shoot for the stars. Now what you have is employees aiming to
shoot each other out of despair. That feeling of 'Will I be next on the cutting block'. was the fear that moved everyone everyday.

Anyone who wishes for another person to lose a job is a real a-hole.
If you don't like a column, don't read it.
As for the people who lost jobs, some of them are very talented people whose names you don't know because as editors and designers they did not have bylines.
They were the people who tried, everyday including weekends and holidays, to do the best they could to put out a good product despite a shrinking staff.

As a former associate I can tell you the OCR does not really care about their "associates". All they care about is the bottom line. They never invested in keeping good, qualified, and talented staff, as much as they cared about payroll numbers. This is not about financial ruin. It's about not making as much PROFIT. They lived for the dollar and they shall die from it. GOOD RIDDANCE ! It was a very dysfunctional company with a sweat shop management style.

The massacre wil not end until the paper is gone, one way or another, as it deserves. A former associate (20 years), I was tossed out like stale bread during recent layoffs. Management provided no support or motivation, could care less about staff morale. Notice the lack of execs leaving? They who are responsible for innovation and driving revenue/profits, yet their bottom line always ends in a panic with cuts. The ever-present excuse of internet advertising taking dollars away from print is getting old. They need to look to the future and be a leader, rather than a follower in trends, in order to stay in business.

so which reporters got cut? list names!

Hopefully scott albert. that dude is a dickhead.

and yvette cabrera used to be hot in her daily news days.

frank, corky, yvette. never read scott albert, but im sure he's way better than those other three hacks.

I wonder if upper management is getting cut like the editorial staff is? They've been spending so much money of non-newpaper projects, it's no wonder their budget is bloated. Unfortunately the Register was once a great local paper with interesting and meaty OC articles. It's a shell today and they're even destroying that. It's not fun to read anymore with stupid, quickly written local stories and lots of "what readers say online" to fill up space without the cost of a reporter. Who are they kidding? And now they're cutting more writers? Hey, is the management being paid by the Times to destroy it? Nah, the Times has way too much class to do that. (And their paper is a much better read - even if so much is LA based.)
Sorry, I'm just angry because the Register was once a paper I was happy to receive and enjoyed reading. Today, they want to push me to their website for crappy stories -- and their site is so hard to navigate and "browse," it's just painful. And try to find a story online that is in the paper edition. Their search engine is a big joke.
Bye, bye Reg. I knew you when......
If only OC Weekly had fewer breast implant ads, I could read it at home with the family.

Jack says: "Anyone who wishes for another person to lose a job is a real a-hole."

Jack, Frank Mickadeit is the A-hole who made repetitive attempts to put over 26 people out of work. See: http://www.ocregister.com/column/latin-hunt-mass-1948827-carona-county

That "article" is just the tip of his A-hole iceberg.

Normally, I'd agree with your comment, but not for this creep(Frank Mickadeit).

You've run stories on layoffs at the LATimes and OCRegister this week, but nothing on the layoffs at your sister paper, the LAWeekly? Why not? Overlords ban it? Worried them chickens comin' home to roost at your place?

Still, fair's fair: http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2008/10/marc_cooper_managing_edit.php

Hey, Register drone: We didn't write about LA Weekly's layoffs 'cause that's Los Angeles--we concentrate on Orange County (hence, the OC abbreviation in our name). When we mentioned the Times layoffs, it was in the context of the Orange County edition. When the chickens come here, we'll report it.

Hey, Village Voice Media apologist, good to see you've at least got a reason for ignoring the bloodletting at your sister paper. Still, seems kinda cold just to ignore your axed brothers and sisters up the road, no?

And since you've got a content-sharing agreement with them, you might want to let readers know whether the LAWeekly layoffs they've heard about have any impact on your OCWeekly content, like the shared movie reviews you use from Ella Taylor and Scott Foundas, or any of the writers behind the other VVM papers (like the LAWeekly) that you pimp on your "national" page.

As a great man once said: "Talk is cheap...It is the way we organize and use our lives everyday that tells what we believe in."

Y'all want names?

Here's one, confirmed by a source at the paper:

Gordon Dillow.

Remember, you read it here first!

No, it's not cold. Our readers care about Orange County-based layoffs, not those based in LA. Try again!

So just say, "The LA Weekly laid some people off this week but content our sister paper shares with us will not be effected."

You don't have say you feel BAD or anything for Marc Cooper, Sharan Street, David Caplan, Matthew Fleischer, Laura Steele, and Pandora Young. Apparently you don't feel bad.

Just let your readers -- in OC -- know that the content you publish from the LAWeekly will be the same as ever.

"Talk is cheap...It is the way we organize and use our lives everyday that tells what we believe in."

Let's not forget the Register's libertarian philosophy---
As an individual, you are free to work for them.
As your employer, they are free to let you go.

Nothing else matters......except the struggle for their legel tender.

Reg drone: Nah. And how do you know how I feel? Now, go comfort your recently departed colleagues instead of wasting time with us. And repeat what the great man said...

VVM apologist, we only know how you feel by what you post here, or allow to be posted here.

Thus far, your silence on your axed colleagues at the LAWeekly speaks volumes, doesn't it?

And your sensitivity to people who may or may not have lost their jobs at the OCR is pretty clearly expressed by your willingness to let your comments write things like "scott albert...is a dickhead."

Scott Albert is not a writer, not a columnist, not one of the OCR people with a public profile, so it seems odd that you'd let someone with an apparently personal grudge against him publish that kind of personal insult on your Web site.

I mean, on the face of it, doesn't that violate Rule No. 1 of your User Conduct policy? (1. Harassing, threatening, embarrassing or causing distress or discomfort upon another individual or entity...)

You guys like to bag on the comments OCR readers leave on message boards there, but if someone wrote "Gustavo Arellano is a dickhead," that comment would be removed as soon as it was spotted.

As always,

"Talk is cheap...It is the way we organize and use our lives everyday that tells what we believe in."

It is deeply frustrating that we read the OC Weekly blog to learn what's going on at the OC Register, which was/is/should be the strongest voice in Orange County.

I feel badly for the people losing their jobs, and for the people who have to make the decisions, too. I don't know a person in that building who would not be deeply affected by letting a co-worker go.

I was never a great fan of management when I worked there, but a newsroom is a deeply bonding place. You go through crisis together, you go through celebrations together, and many times you have a sense that nobody else in the world understands what you're going through except the people in the newsroom.

There's nothing to gloat over here, good, talented people are losing their jobs, and a once-great newspaper is leaving a void in Orange County.

-- Jonathan Volzke 1988-2002

(and if you want to learn about LA media, try www.laobserved.com)

Nicky, Nicky, Nicky:

MAN, you really screwed the pooch this time. I mean, if your bogus and uncorrected item about Barry Koltnow being laid off (posted in, what, February? and still not apologized for by you) wasn't embarrassing enough, now you show up with MORE, hahaha

As in, **MORE: Add classical music critic Timothy Mangan and theater guy (and all-around mensch) Paul Hodgins. Per our source, "Paul Hodgins asked for a buyout and will probably get it but it hasn't been formalized yet." With those two losses, the Reg has abdicated a large chunk of the arts scene in the county. I forget--is dance critic Laura Bleiberg (sp?) still around?"

I'll give you two guesses who's NOT on the list, and NOT leaving. And I'll give you ONE guess who left maybe SIX months ago, when she got another job at the OC Performing Arts Center.

Wow, wow, wow. Here's a little Journalism 101 for ya, Nicky. First, make sure that your information is fact and not just BS rumor, and second, DON'T PRINT IT UNTIL YOU'RE SURE THAT IT IS!!!! Oh, and when you get busted for b.s. reporting, don't give us the weasel answer, "But my source told it to meeeeee!" Be a mensch, and admit you screwed up and apologize, aight?

Your pal,

Beeeeeezling

"Asking talented people to leave
our organization is by far the most difficult part of this process"--Horne

OK, Mr. Horne, here's an easy one to ask to leave...Scott Flanders and Jon Segal and Linda Fisk. They are untalented overpaid losers.

Dood, you Register people are weak. Like Jonathan said above, it's sad that the only place in Orange County that Register readers can find out about their crumbling paper is the OC Weekly. Instead, you have Register employees picking fights with no ones. Now excuse me as I go fetch Dana some coffee.

Dance Critic Laura Bleiberg left the Register several months ago to accept a job at South Coast Repertory. If Mangan and Hodgins are indeed leaving the Register's arts coverage will be decimated.

Nicky! That update is neither a correction nor an apology!

What is the deal with you and your loyalty to a source or sources who don't know what they're talking about? They must have photos of you with that goat that time. You know what I'm talking about, don't pretend you don't.

Let's all sing along now, in anticipation of Nicky's apology to come:

It's sad, so sad
It's a sad, sad situation
And it's getting more and more absurd
It's sad, so sad
Why can't we talk it over
Oh it seems to me
That sorry seems to be the hardest word

Okay, Beezling,

I'd apologize for saying Dillow, Hodgins and Mangan have been fired, but I didn't say that. I said they are seeking buyouts, according to sources at your paper who do in fact know what they are talking about.

And as for Barry Koltnow, I'd apologize for saying he was going to be fired, but I never said that either. I said that he was likely going to lose his Hollywood beat because of content sharing with Dean Singleton. Hmm. Should I apologize for that prediction? Let's ask Barry himself.

Here's the final post from "Barry Koltnow's Hollywood," dated July 11, 2008:

"Hey, guys. This is your Hollywood guy signing off. I have to give up this spot because of time constraints caused by my other work, including my After Dark and Adventures in Barrywood columns."

Bye, bye!

You guys are wrong, wrong, wrong about Timothy Mangan and Paul Hodgins taking or seeking buyouts at the Orange County Register. They are still gainfully employed there, and the cuts have already been made.

You should do your homework and perhaps a little basic reporting. Did you even bother to call them? There are certainly other people who have taken buyouts or have been laid off, but Tim and Paul are not among them.

Look at Paul's post in the OC Register's Arts Blog about this:

http://artsblog.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/31/were-still-here/3647/

Wow, it really is impossible for you to admit you made a mistake. I'm not even trying to get you to admit you know NOTHING, which is pretty much the case. I'll settle for an apology that you made a simple journalistic error. You know, the kind that result in corrections at real newspapers.

Let's take your points apart, shall we?

1) Dillow, Mangan and Hodgins are seeking buyouts. That's 100 percent factually incorrect. Nothing done this week was a buyout. Some people were allowed to volunteer to be laid off. Everyone got the same severance package, whether they volunteered or not. Everything has been done, so at this point, no one is seeking anything, final decisions have been made.

2) Don't believe me? You could pick up the phone and call Hodgins or Mangan or Dillow. You know, pretend to be a reporter for Halloween. Or you could just read the publication you're writing about: http://artsblog.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/31/were-still-here/3647/

3) As for Barry losing his Hollywood beat, if that's how you choose to parse the BS you repeatedly published earlier this year. Yes, you accurately quote Barry's farewell note -- to his Hollywood blog. If you bothered to read the OCR, you'd know that he ONLY dropped the blog, and that in fact he continues to write Adventures in Barrywood, a weekly column on Hollywood for the Sunday paper (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/movie-college-stars-2211814-don-big), that he continues to interview actors for the Friday Show section, cover the Emmys, and so forth. You know, covering Hollywood. Again, you COULD call him, his number is listed at the bottom of each of his Hollywood stories.

I mean, c'mon, man, do your job if you're gonna get paid for it. Does Ted Kissell even read the stuff you write? And stuff you get called on for gettin wrong?

Wait a sec -- this is all just a practical joke, right? You're going as Jason Blair for Halloween this year, right?

Once again, forget your BS sources -- they're wrong. Apologize and write the corrections you need to write.

Buh-bye,

Beeeeezling

Beeeezling, you are an idiot. The fact of the matter is the Register IS laying off 110 people, and the information coming out of OCWeekly is and always has been far more reliable than what's coming out of the Register. So what if they miss every now and again. Think very about the company you're trying to defend, then SHUT YOUR YAP!! Cretin.

Reggie Joe,

Always nice to make a new friend! The fact of the matter is indeed that 110 people were laid off this week, and if Nicky had left it at that we'd be good.

But Nicky, with an assist from Gussie, decided to name names, and when they name people who haven't been laid off they need to correct their errors as soon as they are made aware of said errors.

I'm not defending the company, I'm defending the names and reputations of good people who've been maligned by false information spread by the OC Weekly. There's a difference, you know? If sources and institutions start to hear that Paul Hodgins and Tim Mangan have been laid off -- when by their own words, in the Register Arts blog, link in my last post -- they have not been, then the OC Weekly is doing them.

Read this twice and feel free to move your lips if you need help figuring it out, 'K, Reggie Joe?

Oh, and BTW, is your reference to "Think very about the company..." a hint at your own cretin-istic ways? If so, welcome, brother!

Yapping away, your pal,

Beeeeeezling

Dear beeeeeezling:

1: Generate your own nickname to hide behind, one that doesn't have old friends of mine thinking I'm an even bigger sack of decomposing donkey dicks than you. Maybe "Bootlicker"?

2: Generate your own reproductive tissue. That's right, grow a pair.

3: Once they've grown, chew them off. You wouldn't know what to do with them.

I am beezling
Yes I'm the real beezling
All you other fake beeezlings
Are just imitatin'...

Beeeeeezling, it isn't just with this subject that you defend the Register's poor management. You are all over the place on this board! You seem to revel in your own arrogant nonsense.

If you work at the Register, you can't be all that good yourself, otherwise you'd have had the option of leaving while you still had a shot at a real career. Or maybe you wish you did, and this is some sad attempt at gaining ANY kind of notoriety... Is that it? O.C.'s Paris Hilton?

You're a joke.

P.S. People send in these responses very quickly, and sometimes they make what are called errors. Apparently, you, in all of your unbridled brilliance, have never done this... I'm so sorry I can't be the 100% perfect genius you imagine yourself to be... You happy now, you self-centered prick?

VIVA NICK SCHOU!

unlike the last rounds of layoffs, there weren't mass farewell e-mails from the departing. not one. and in the reporters only discussion forum, reporters are discouraged from mentioning names. so the staff at the register doesn't know the complete list. brusic, horne, the DEs and hr surely do, but the staff just knows names from word of mouth. a lot of people left wednesday with a promise of 2 months severance pay. others got 2 months notice, and will be working for some or all of that time. hodgins and mangan worked today. hodgins' post said "we're still here," not "we're staying." let's hope they are staying. but their names are oft-rumored, maybe because they are reminders of a time when the reg was something better, before this relentless provincialism became the paper's guiding force.

To nofarewells:

Thank you for the post. Amid all the invective being hurled back and forth here, it is nice to receive some useful information. We are all saddened by what must be a despairing situation there, and what has happened to a once vibrant news organization.

Alex, baby: I've grown fond of this name. That way by following you on Twitter it's like I'm following myself -- trippy! Say hello t'yer mother for me -- how is Vickie anyway?

Reggie Joe: Apology accepted. You keep trying and one day you too can be a 100 percent genius just like me. Good luck with that.

Nofarewells: You are the first decent commenter to join this debate, and most of your information is accurate (unlike that which Nicky and Gussie posted, which I've been TRYIN' to get them to CORRECT).

Mangan and Hodgins aren't going anyway, though, they are not part of this deal, and again, that's the whole point of my efforts today: Gussie and Nicky started naming names without any factual basis -- just rumors spread by uninformed anonymous sources. And when that' s been pointed out to them -- by Paul Hodgins hisself! -- they still refuse to do what a "reporter" does and call up Paul or Tim or anyone else who they could get to talk on the record, and get the facts and then apologize and set the record straight.

It just ain't that hard to do, once they set their egos aside and do it!

Occustomer: Sorry about all the invective, it just seems like to get through to these numskulls you have to talk to these guys in the kind of insulting language they fling all day long. If they want to have a civilized discussion, that's fine with me. But it starts with their apology and correction of today's errors. Remember, this is a forum where the operators -- the OC Weekly boys -- think it's fine to let anonymous commenters call non-public figures like Scott Albert a "dickhead." It's a place where one of their own writers, Alex B-Z, is free to call me "a sack of decomposing donkey dicks," har har. So you kinda have to meet them on their own terms, y'know?

As always, your pal with the facts, still awaiting your corrections and apologies,

Beeeeeeeeeeeezling

To Beezling:

I'm sure you never thought this would happen, but you sir/madame are correct and I am wrong. Credit to you for demanding a correction. Here goes:

I'd like to extend my heartfelt apologies for publishing unsubstantiated rumors about Mangan and Hodgins seeking to leave the Register in this latest round of layoffs. As "nofarewells" above points out, there's been a lot of rumor and confusion inside the Register lately. This post has only added to the anxiety and grief, which was not my intention. I was told by sources at the Register that Dillow, Hodgins and Mangan were on the voluntary departure list, and passed this information on to Gustavo, who updated my post. The error is mine alone. My apologies to both reporters for posting their names without contacting them first, and my sincere regret for any additional grief I've caused in this trying, tumultuous time.

Thanks, and stay tuned for more names, this time with courtesy phone calls and email messages included!

Nick Schou, you're stupid for apologizing to those dipshits at the Register.

Register dipshits: I find it funny that the two of you cry about how the Weakly allows commentators to make fun of you dipshits when its your paper that allows reaaders to trash gays and Latinos at will. Thank God your paper is dying.

Nick,

Thanks for setting the record straight. I'm appreciative that there is a website that is interested in the continued deterioration of the Register. It will affect the entire community. LAObserved has the occasional post, and Fishbowl does too, but they are more oriented to LA while OC Weekly seems more committed to tracking the ongoing developments. And clearly there are some informed people posting who have good knowledge of what is going on. I tip my hat to all the good reporters and editors and designers still toiling through what must be an increasingly difficult environment, while trying to do their best work.

Nick: I appreciate your last post. I only post on here when I see something I know is factually wrong.

Losers: The Register message boards allow readers to report offensive comments -- which aren't limited to Latinos or gays by far -- and the offensive stuff gets deleted. Meanwhile, an offensive slur against Scott Albert remains published on this message board two days after some punk posted it. The point, which hopefully you can see, is that offensive, over-the-line comments should be removed by anyone running a newspaper that allows readers to comment. Unfortunately, no one seems to police the boards here, other than to disemvowel or add typos to the occasional comments from people like me with whom they disagree.

Occustomer: I agree with you that it's a perfectly fine thing for the Weekly to report on events at the Register -- as long as they're accurate. Personal insults and fictional rumors, not so much. And I'm sure the people who work over there at the Register appreciate your keep-yer-chins-up comment, too.

Now that you're being all affable and shit, would you mind never again pretending to be me? Or admitting you follow me on Twitter? Or dragging my mother into these little tiffs?

Have fun following yourself and playing with yourself in all other forms.

Alex,

Man, I really wish I could help you out, but I've got a reputation to uphold with this moniker now. So I'm afraid I have to keep it. I bet you can come up with a better name for yourself anyway.

B

Hey, Reggie insiders - quick question:

What's David Whiting doing now that he's lost his side gig peddling $300 sunglasses on DayBreak OC?

anyone heard any more names who is leaving?

Listen, one of the first things they teach you about how to run a successful "alternative weekly" is to bash the mainstream media. You don't even have to be vaguely accurate because no one is checking or actually cares whether you're accurate or not. It' s just another lousy blog like a million lousy blogs that could be printing that there are Martians among us, with no one trying to verify whether or not it's true. The only reason this mistake attracted any notice at all is because it dealt with the fates of two legitimate journalists, whose friends didn't take too kindly to their demise being reported inaccurately. The OC Register might be struggling, it might have laid off or lost a lot of good people at this point, but the people who work there care about providing the news accurately and fairly which is more than this rag does. I should know because I work there myself and I will be proud of having worked there even if I come in tomorrow and have a pink slip. The crisis in the newspaper industry is a crisis for our whole society and not just a joke vehicle for rags like this. Who are you people going to trust to at least TRY to report factually on things when the legitimate journalistic outlets are all out of business and all that is left is lousy inaccurate rags like this that can't even be bothered to check their facts? When all the people who try to be honest and ethical journalists are slinging hash somewhere? And I know from personal knowledge that pretty much every journalist who's been maligned on this comment thread is being criticized because they are honest and ethical, and have made enemies along the way. That's part of the job.

I think it is very sad that anyone had to lose their job right before the Holidays and in the horrible economy. But in all honesty the OC Register sucks. It seems like they make mistake after mistake and they offer NO substance. I can get every headline they offer on Google.

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