This will come as no surprise, but Aliso Viejo's Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minutemen (not the immortal patriotic heroes of Lexington and Concord– Jim's are the flabby guys who have figured out how to combine xenophobia and birdwatching by scanning the horizon for Mexicans instead of great blue herons) is engaged in wishful thinking again. I'm not referring to his plans for a "multistate civilian border patrols" reported in this morning's Register. No, I'm referring to something else he told the Reg.
Gilchrist sees the pro-immigrant protests of the past week as a direct threat on U.S. sovereignty."I don't want to sound paranoid, but when you see hundreds of thousands of people rallying around a foreign flag ... it's the next thing to foreign insurrection," he said.
Of course, Jim has some experience with rallies where some of the participants are displaying symbols from other countries, as these photos from last month's Minuteman rally in Washington D.C. show.
Meanwhile, over on his Golden State blog, LA Times business columnist Michael Hiltzik has some interesting observations on the "paranoia and insecurity" underlying one of the more innocuous seeming parts of immigration bill passed by the Senate judiciary committee this week.
rev. quitter says:
it's touching that there are people who are willing to protect me from non-english speakers like that. oh the humanity. speaking of protection, some other nice folks like phyllis shlafly are protecting us from ourselves.. check this..
http://www1.valuesvoter.org/preamble.cfm?host_id=VA1
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 9:03AM
Jay says:
When you see hundreds of flags from anotehr country, it's obvious that the illegals (mexicans) are trying to take over this great country of ours. even the leader of La Raza came out and said that they are trying to take it back. I'd like to see someone come down my street trying to take their land back.....they'll get a bullet in their chest.
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 9:03AM
Mike says:
Jesus, Jay. Calm down. Be pissed, be angry, but for fucks sake don't be a dumb ass. Bullets in the chest? What the fuck? Is this the Inquisition or the new Revolution? Neither, yet. Mellow out a smidgen. Don't jump to violence so quick.
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 11:03AM
Paul Brennan says:
People, I think it's pretty clear that Jay must be a performance artist, satirizing the extreme knuckle-dragging fringe of anti-immigrant movement. Look at his comments-- the spittle-flecked nonsense, the empty threats that scream of insecurity about his manhood, the typos-- it's got to be an act! No one could be that pathetic. You're a funny, funny man, Jay. Well done.
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 3:03PM
Jay says:
I am pissed and angry, and am not giong to lay down and let the illegals invade the country that my father and grandfather both fought in wars to protect. If Mexico defends their country from illegal Guatamalens, then they're just protecting their borders, but if America does it, then we're "racist". ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.I am so sick of being invaded by illegal mexicans and I will shoot to kill if the shit hits the fan or if any student protestor walks out on the freeway in front of my car.
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 3:03PM
Jay says:
Paul--you found me out. Of course I would never shoot anybody--just trying to have a little fun..
Posted on Thursday, Mar. 30 2006 @ 4:03PM
Mike says:
Enough is enough. I won't argue that point. The southern Mexican border vs the US border thing still confuses me. How can there be that double standard? Why doesn't anyone seem to care about it? Why do Mexicans have the right to roll across to the US whenever they want, but Cent American and South American folks can't get across to Mexico? And why is it so out of controle that for the US to require some form of documentation to get services? Mexican kids can't even go to Mexican schools without a birth cirtificate or citizenship papers. It just doesn't seem to be balanced.
Posted on Friday, Mar. 31 2006 @ 8:03AM
Contontos says:
Paul, please get a clue.
First of all, you only reveal your ignorance when you sarcastically point up for anyone's benefit besides your own the distinction between the Minutemen of the American Revolution and the organization founded by Jim Gilchrist. The latter is NOT the "Minutemen." It's the "Minuteman Project."
Also, stop kidding yourself. This entire illegal-immigration issue has come to where it is today -- in every aspect from the current senate debate, to tens of thousands of uninvited guests in American streets stupidly waving Mexican flags and making demands of non-consenting hosts, and right down to your comments in this thread on this page -- has been brought about by the laudable actions of the Minuteman Project.
BTW, would it do any good if the rest of us were to take up a collection and buy you a dictionary so that you might look up the word, "insurrection"? Or are you too comfortable in your ignorance... http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=insurrection
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 2:04AM
Paul Brennan says:
Good lord! If you really believe that a peaceful protest march is insurrection, you must also believe that the sky is falling every time it rains. What a sad and fearful little world you must live in. Don't bother collecting money on my account, save your dimes to buy yourself a helmet for the next time it rains.
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 8:04AM
ike says:
The problem that seems to get ignored is that there is a difference between legal and illegal immigration. Why should any group of people be able to "cut in line" or not have to go through the process most of our ancestors had to? Ever heard of Ellis Island? I know legal immigrants and they worked hard to earn the right to become US citizens and are contributing to our society and love living here. Unfortunatly, the same can't be said of the Che wearing, Flag waving offspring of legal and illegal immigrants from certain Latin American countries. I have never voted Republican and I consider myself somewhat "liberal" but this invasion is a real eye-opener.
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 8:04AM
Contontos says:
Paul, all I can say is that I hope the head trauma that you must have suffered when you fell off that turnip truck will heal soon.
Oh wait! I think I can help you further. If you do something about your reading comprehension you just might detect the bleeding obvious fact that Gilchrist did not say it IS an insurrection. He said it's the next thing to it. And regardless of whatever apparent need you might have to deliberately mischaracterize that, here on planet Earth it is a fair statement.
These are the folks who think (and hope) it's an insurrection: http://www.aztlan.net//la_gran_marcha.htm
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 10:04AM
Paul Brennan says:
Oh contontos, it's come to this has it? The ominous spectre of the reconquista? You're right, I give. Once MEChA gets its hands on those CIA/UN/Trilateral Commission black helicopters, we're doomed! DOOMED! Here's a little secret to share with your buddies, as you stock up your bunkers for the coming invasion-- it's not our land they want, it's our precious bodily fluids! Our precious bodily fluids!
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 11:04AM
Contontos says:
Paul, when/if you get ready to look at your childish spin, this is what you'll see as plainly as anyone should.
ONE) You so completely failed to notice the difference between "Minutemen" and "The Minuteman Project" that you made an ignorant display of yourself sarcastically trying to point up a difference that apparently only you missed.
TWO) You attempted to characterize the participants in the Minuteman Project as nothing more consequential than "flabby guys... scanning the horizon for Mexicans," but instead you only showed yourself to be clueless to the fact that THEY are the very reason you find yourself ranting on the topic at hand.
THREE) You demonstrated a greater depth of your ignorance by contriving a reaching mischaracterization of someone using the phrase "...next thing to foreign insurrection."
FOUR) As if you never committed those monumental factual and logical blunders, and as if you could possibly, by any stretch of the imagination STILL possess a vestige of credibility, you now insist that people who really DO openly plot foreign insurrection in the U.S. are nothing more than someone ELSE'S fancifully invented bogeymen!
You're the one and only casualty of your own ignorant bias.
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 3:04PM
Paul Brennan says:
When MeChA's black helicopters come for your precious bodily fluids, don't say I didn't warn you, my excitable contonos.
Posted on Saturday, Apr. 1 2006 @ 8:04PM
Contontos says:
Paul, could you actually be more clueless than you were before your remedial tutoring?
You've been exposed as dead wrong about every assertion you've tried to assemble in this thread. So what makes you imagine that I would care about anything more you might say?
I trust that it would be useless to implore you to try to pull up the quality of your contributions. So instead I'll just thank you for stating absolutely nothing of worth in one sentence instead of the several paragraphs you were requiring of yourself when I arrived.
Posted on Sunday, Apr. 2 2006 @ 1:04AM
Paul Brennan says:
Good for you, connie. Enough of this foolishness. Time for you to get back to what's really important in life: monitoring the plans for the reconquista and scanning the horizon for the Mexicans who want your precious bodily fluids. You're a hero, soldier.
Posted on Sunday, Apr. 2 2006 @ 7:04AM
Contontos says:
Typical of your ilk, Paul.
When exposed as shrill, ignorant and deceitful your kind INVARIABLY calls names and then spews a parting shot like a dime store Bette Davis to disguise the fact that you're really only tucking tail and running away.
Act according to what lies in your heart, "Paulie." But wherever you go, the "foolishness" that you pretend to have enough of will be wherever you go until you sprout the courage to face and it do something to change it.
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ANOTHER REVIEW OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS...
ONE) You so completely failed to notice the difference between "Minutemen" and "The Minuteman Project" that you made an ignorant display of yourself sarcastically trying to point up a difference that apparently only you missed.
TWO) You attempted to characterize the participants in the Minuteman Project as nothing more consequential than "flabby guys… scanning the horizon for Mexicans," but instead you only showed yourself to be clueless to the fact that THEY are the very reason you find yourself ranting on the topic at hand.
THREE) You demonstrated a greater depth of your ignorance by contriving a reaching mischaracterization of someone using the phrase "…next thing to foreign insurrection."
FOUR) As if you never committed those monumental factual and logical blunders, and as if you could possibly, by any stretch of the imagination STILL possess a vestige of credibility, you now insist that people who really DO openly plot foreign insurrection in the U.S. are nothing more than someone ELSE'S fancifully invented bogeymen!
FIVE) Instead of making any attempt to offer an objective counter argument after I've blown yours away, you call me "Connie" and "hero soldier," and ironically claim that you've had enough foolishness.
I hope you're more aware of when you're passing water than you are of your making a yammering hypocrite of yourself. If not you'll go through life in wet drawers.
Posted on Sunday, Apr. 2 2006 @ 11:04PM