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General Vang Pao Free on Bail!

After a month in jail, Westminster resident and former CIA-backed Laotian Secret Army General Vang Pao is heading home. Yesterday, a federal judge in Sacramento granted a request by lawyers for Vang, 77, and 10 other defendants the government claims tried to overthrow the Lao People's Democratic Republic, to have their clients released on bail pending trial.

Their argument, in part: The defendants are mostly old guys who pose no danger to society. It probably helped convince the judge that Vang attended the hearing in a wheelchair and two other alleged coup plotters, Chong Yang Thao and Seng Vue, had to be hospitalized that day for stroke complications, as reported by the Sacramento Bee.
The news was cheered by thousands of Hmong-American protesters who revere Vang and gathered outside the courtroom chanting, "Free Vang Pao!" but not so much by federal prosecutors, who argued that the allaged coup plotters posed a flight risk and that Vang, in particular, could easily call out a hit on the undercover agent who busted him and his buddies if he gets access to a cell phone. Under terms of his bail, Vang will be confined to his home and only allowed to speak with family members and lawyers.

Comments (31)

  1. rangerunner says:

    I agree that our people are being tortured and killed. It does not make it right to kill other people. General Vang has forced us to give money and uses alot to take care of his wives and his own personal stuff. He helped us a long time ago but his family and him still tries to take our money. I do not think that it is ok to kill other people. I bet if the police checked on his cousins, wives, and family they would find alot of people who do illegal things in the name of Hmong. We is Hmong and we are not killers.

  2. Enlightenment says:

    No one forced anyone to give money, we live in a nation of liberty, it was a choice by those who gave. If your family is being murdered are you going to tell yourself it is unfortunate but it isn't right that you should stop the people killing them by force? Sure you may think the authorities would help, but the general has asked the UN to take action in helping stop the cruel acts the Laotian military had committed. Nothing has been done, so he sought ways to take action.

  3. Pakou Lao says:

    Of course Mr. Vang Pao did not force anyone to contribute money to him, his family, and friends. Mr. Vang Pao manipulated, tricked, and lied to his very own people into giving money to support himself, family, and friends. Most of the people that has contributed to his scheme are the low income families who are struggling here in America. Why did it take this long for him to do something about our people back home? The reason is because he's getting old and about to die; so he's trying to go out with a big lie. Mr. Vang Pao has used our people's money for his own sexual pleasure. Look at how many wives he has. He has got to make money someway and somehow. And of course by the only way he has ever known to do. Tricking his own people.
    Yeah he had help lead the Hmong community way back in the days in fighting along side with the Americans. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for that. But once powers got into his head and money started flowing in for our people, we no longer matter to him. He took that money and ran with it. Why do you think the Hmong people are the only ones who does not get any aids from the USA government. The Philipinos, Russians, and French here in America do. This is why these other group are able to prosper in this country.

  4. Pakou Lao says:

    Regarding the recent arrest of Vang Pao and his fellow colleagues. As we all can see world wide, a lot of our people are relieve that Vang Pao got arrested. Take a look at the people who were protesting for HIS release. It was 98% young fellow Hmongs who were out there. They weren't even around when the war was going on. They don't know what's going on back home. They don't see the corruptions here in America and back home. From what I have heard from my colleagues "Out at the capital was like a mini Hmong New Year. There were hella girls to hollar at". "The only reason we were out there was to hollar at the girls and be on t.v.". Where were all the veterans, family, and friends who were there at the time? They knew and was happy that justice was going to be serve. They were at home hoping Vang Pao rot in jail for all the crimes he has committed back in the days and up until now here in America and in Laos.
    If we haven't realized money talk. People were out chanting for Vang Pao's release only. What about the others that Vang Pao has dragged into the mess? Luckily the court saw that the others deserve to be release too. I hope justice is serve properly.

  5. Kao Nou Vang says:

    Vang Pao needs to be overthrown. It's time we Hmong unite as one, put our differences aside, and elect a new leader. We need someone who is smart, strong, confident, and not afraid of criticism.
    Vang Pao needs is a Hmong version of Saddam. Vang Pao's family, friends, and himself need to open up their eyes and see what happened to dictators like Saddam. They don't get too far.
    Remember we supported you and believed in you at one time. You took our trust and stomped on it. You took our poor families money and ran with it, with no regards to our hungry children.

  6. Nco Neeg Zoo Tsi Ncu Neeg Phem says:

    I don't really care about Vang Pao even he grew up in my uncles' family. My uncle took care of him until the day he grown up and became famous. Now Vang Pao mean nothing to me. Most of the Hmong people so idiots and crazy about go back to Laos. They tried to take over Laos, such losers. Is the country of Laos called "Hmong"? Lao people never bother their country! Why the Hmong people kept bothing the country that is not even call "Hmong" country? No matter how Hmong people fight to take the country back, its' name will still call Laos. Only those super Hmong idiots brainless will keep spending their monthly income to ua nai phoo for nothing and paid Vang Pao's bail. I glad Vang Pao landed jail so that he can escape from those super brainless idiots who kept pressure him to take over the country of Laos, a country that never beared Hmong name but only Hmong lives in it. Tsuas yog cov Hmoob ruam, thiab hlwb yog ntswg xwb thiaj xav tau tebchaws Nplog rov qab. A poor country!

  7. Fonsevu says:

    To all concern viewers and commentators:

    I'll break it down for you just a little to see if you can figure out the rest then you'll know exactly where your IQ stand.

    There are three kind of people in this world that you should never trust your money nor your life to. Would you know who they are if I didn't tell you? Take a moment to guess the answers to see if you got them right.

    The answer is; 1)the gambler, 2)the salesman and 3)the politician.

    All of these charactors has the same kind of traits, mind, philosophy, mentality, and other endless listing of description. Give them any chance and opportunity, and they will take it all. As for all of those poor soles and victims we are so concerning about, most of them just couldn't wait for these three guys to come along and entertain them. For some, they had no clues what they are doing. Most of these people had been victimized once or twice, but just couldn't stay away. It's like being addictive to drugs. Telling them common sense, and they look at you strangely. Their lives seem like they are dependant of these three guys. It seems like they were meant for each others like husband and wive, or a horse and a carriage.

    I symphathize for them and for you, but no one really know for a fact that the general had any direct contact with these victims or his political party, and fund raisers committees. I do know for sure that none of these people could be trusted nor depended.

    I had my own facts and doubts about the general, his political parties, and the victims; but I still appreciate the change and outcome resulted from his decision to side with the CIA of the United States during World War II that brought us here today. Otherwise, none of us wouldn't have this opportunity as we have today, despite all other negative, lost, and sacrifices. None of us would be able to live and talk as we did today if it wasn't for the general's decision.

    Spilling every negative rumors out as we read here on this site isn't the wisest thing to do wouldn't you agree? Possibly right at the moment, but later one might realize and regret those words that had came out without careful analizing. It only tell people/viewers that those comment and criticisms were made by intelligent people. No one could really prove for a fact of exactly that he had done directly or indirectly, by him or by his political parties, or groups that just want to over throw him or make profit out of him.

    My advice for those that wants to become famouse should try hard to accomplish something worthwhile. And those that had hard time with the general, find the truth about those scan, those victims, and so forth. You'll be shocked and learn to adapt to it. Maybe pay your respect once in your life time to the general for the few good thing he has done to us, to our parents, our country, and our community.
    ...............................................
    There are also three kind of people in this world too; 1)the smar/educated/wise/intelligent, 2)the bad/evil/liar,opportunist 3)the poor/uneducated/ignorant/but nice. Number 3 usually falls into the hand of number 2., but number 1 always gets the blames which they never cares. Number 1 always advised number 3, but 3 never cares to listen to, except to #2. #1 and #2 always stay away from each other. #3 would die, give, and kiss #2's ass over and over if necessary. Where are you in this perspective? See you all later :)


  8. Fonsev says:

    Just for thoughts:

    With the mess that this general and his followers are caught in like ducks in a cage, in harms' way, in front of tidal waves or hurrican; there's no chance of winning but to absorb it in or plea for lighter sentencing. I know just the right antidope for this general and his helpless men, that would make the whitehouse jump and drop the charges they hope to show the world that they do not tolerate terrorist anywhere on this world. Anyone can figure out that if these guys are convicted of such terrorist threats, CIA and US are the master mind behind it all. No matter what the excuse or charge against the group. An average person can figure out that there must be some kind of descrepancy/conflict/disagreement between the general and the CIA/US to have caused the CIA to withdraw from the plan and turn these little guys in. Like we haven't seen it before. If all the parties agreed, it would have been like World War II and like Iraq. Does this open up anything?

  9. Girly Cha says:

    I can't believe how immature and negative some Hmong people can be here. Yeah, go ahead and spill secrets about your dad, mom, brother and sister too..

  10. Anonymous says:

    gay

  11. Ntujtsausnti says:

    I agree with Girly Cha too. I think you guy spill too much of the negative that never see the positive. Our 1st priority is to save those who in dangerous and in needed of our help to have at least a 1 day of a good time in life not waiting to die. All they wish are either to survive til we can help them or to die immediately but that was only 5%. Are we Hmong a TErroist to the US? I guess most of you are angry when u heard. Same here, 10 yrs without a resident card is ok but what if we did that to them (US citizen). Patient is a patient but i guess the General is a little too rush when he heard that there's a help. anyway, Remember how much we sacrifice in Thai border and the Nan Kong River. Remember those who are being swallowing opium so that you can be quite while running away to Thailand. Hope this will bring u some memory. My family immigrant to Thailand in 1989 for being chasing to the death hole of US force so i been thru many bad situation til now.

  12. coca cola says:

    all you haters just wana B cool like him. Y'all jux probably jealous of him! wat kind of proof do u have that he's taking money from hmong?! He did so much to help us and here sum of y'all talking a lot of smack about him! U know, we dont need to "elect" a new hmong leader, we r in the USA now and our leader is the president. Even if there's a new leader not much people r gona care, u know cuz the only one that we're ever gona remember and LUV is Vang Pao!! He's the 1 who helped the hmong get to where they r now. he is the only 1 who everyone is gona remember generation to generation!! And, u know, maybe after him we dont need a new leader! Cuz there are so many haters that are gona spread shit about "him". other people appreciate their leaders, so we should do the same. i mean i luv the USA, but its time we appreciate ours and not bring him down. he did evrything jux so we b safe otherwise, all of our lives would still b in danger.

  13. Mai G says:

    Think of where you r now!! How would you have gotten here if it weren't for him! Why dont you just thank him.

  14. Chia Cha says:

    Hello all Hmong members of the community,
    This is not the appropriate avenue to discuss such important issues of our people. Please take your concerns to your local community organizations.

    Chia

  15. hmong says:

    woderin y HMONG doesn't have a country kuz of these stupid shit...we HMONG need to learn to love each other and stand as one...welpz let see the future n juss don't talk shit alrite kuz i am HMONG n i have HMONG blood...juss look in today life every new year there are violence of gang goin on so things will never change juss like tupac song CHANGES....peace out my Hmong peep....

  16. Kai says:

    Vang Poa is a great leader he saved many people's lives and the people adding bad comments about him should definintly go to Hell. He is a great U.S ally and shouln't go to jail. Without him us Hmong wouldn't even be here. I want to advice everyone to shut their mouth about bad mouthing him because he is our elder and b/c god will dmn anyone who badmouth him. So what if he tried to overthrow a communist country? Isn't that the goal of the U.S. anyway?

  17. This is who we are says:

    If you guys think Vang poa is so innocent then lets put him to the HMONG test. I don't know nor can I prove that vang poa did any of those bad things that people are accusing him off. Thats why I say we put him to to Hmong test. Yeah the freaking Chicken blood in the glass of water test. Everyone of those that think he is truly innocent , they can all drink that shit with him.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Why u little shit of course our leader is great n innocent if he wasn't good n great the communist would have killed all our families. U are such a fuking asshole to even mention his unloyalty to all us hmongs. We all owe him all our lives. If he gave me a hard task I would followed it to the end of the earth if I had too. By the way I'm talking to (This is who we are).

  19. Anonymous says:

    I'm glad I'm here in the US (born and raised), but I don't think going to war is such a great idea. The only good thing about him getting caught was that it brought so much media attention to the massacre of the Hmong people. Hopefully it doesn't go to waste with all this hate. Grow up people, your hateful words won't change anything.

  20. hmong person who respects vang pao says:

    some pple think that general vang pao is bad ... but i say fuck u pple ... vang pao isn't that bad u know ... because without him ... we all would of been killed already ... u know ... vang pao helped us hmong pple 4 who he is ... peace out ... my hmong pple.

  21. on the other side says:

    i really don't have anything to say... just to those we are hating a lot towards...General Vang Pao.... if you think your that good and dont need him... my suggestion to you is go back to Loas and Thailand... why in the heck did you come following like a little dog with shit all over your head...you dumbasses... you know one thing i hate most about people... they think they know a whole lot of shit and still they do the same thing... all you stupid fuks... i'm pretty sure your dad is probably the one scooping in on all the medioacre families for money and using GVP and an excuse.... tell your parents to got jump off a bridge... you wanna know what more i think... i think he should have left your stupid parents back in Loas and Thailand to rot and die... then there wouldn't be you running around like a lost puppy...
    need more i say.... if you dont understand these words then i suggest you convert into a dog and keep talking your shit... peace...

  22. on the other side says:

    THIS COMMENT RIGHT HERE IS FOR THAT FELLOW CALLED "THIS IS WHO WE ARE"... GOD I HOPE YOU READ MY COMMENT: YOUR ONE OF THOSE STUPID FUKS I WAS TALKING ABOUT... YEAH YOUR THE ONES WHOSE PARENT SHOULD BE LEFT BACK IN LOAS AND THAILAND TO ROT AND DIE... BUT WHAT DID YOUR STUPID PARENTS DO...COME FOLLOWING LIKE A DOG AND NOW TALKING ALL YOUR SHIT... OH AND DONT EVEN TELL ME THAT YOUR BRAVE UNCLE GOT YOU HERE TO THE UNITED STATES...
    1- AND I MEAN I'M ONLY GONNA GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OKAY AND READ CAREFULLY: CAUCASIONS CAME HERE TO THIS LAND BRUITALLY KILLED AND SLAUGTHERED NATIVE AMERICANS, SKINNING THEM, TORTURING THEM... WOULD LET YOU WALK SO FREELY ON THERE LAND... BECAUSE WHAT YOUR UNCLE WAS STRONG? BECAUSE WHAT YOUR HMONG? BECAUSE WHAT?
    NOW SINCE YOUR GOING TO PUT YOUR LEADER TO THE TEST BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY THINK YOUR BETTER...THEN I SUGGEST YOU GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE OH NO WAIT...GO PUT TWENTY PILLOWS BEHIND THAT THICK HEAD OF YOURS AND THINK REALLY REALLY HARD ABOUT HMONGS...JUST HMONGS... NOT ONLY YOU OR YOUR FAMILY BUT HMONGS AS A WHOLE... AND HOW YOU CAN WALK ON AMERICAN SOIL WITHOUT BEING TOUCHED... NOW TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SOME HMONGS HERE ON AMERICAN SOIL DONT GET THE SAME TREATMENT YOU DO--- AS THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH RACISM STILL.... NOW TELL ME WHAT SHIT ARE YOU?

  23. Kim says:

    I don't care what he does or does not do! Oviously he was great enough to be were he is. Who said leading a nation was esay. He's only human. He makes mistake just like everyone. At least he tries to make the best of what you got. So what are you(all the haters, who thinks so wrongly of General Vang Pao) doing for us. The whole point of the situation to me would be a test. A test to see if "we" as Hmong in general can stand together as a whole. To unit as one. To me the truth is everyone is to worry abot all the negative things that they don't realize what is the true out come. Full of jeliousy, we step on ourself and make each other look like trash because we have no support for each other. The point is why be proud of the word "HMONG" when your steping it,hmong, down like garbage!....

  24. Lazie says:

    I love
    Hmong People!!!!!!!!!!

    Why?..
    Because I Am Hmong!!!!!!

  25. Just Hmong says:

    Reading all these comments... make me ashame... ashamed of some of my fellow Hmong folks... Yes, I understand what some of you are saying.. but keep in mind where would you be today if it wasn't for the General?? Secondly, regarding the money he took from your parent or grandparent it's more of a self-volunteer.. Third, the general have to do what he gotta do in order to voice out his concern... if you're so concern about the innocent why don't ya do something instead of letting the poor guy (General) stand up for everyone?! Fourth, every leader is corrupted in some way so learn to accept it!! Fifth, all I see is criticism of the General, why don't you criticize the U.N to help our fellow Hmong folks. If you can't do it then I recommend you shut it. Cya.!

  26. who are the hmongs says:

    waoooo after reading all these comments i dont know what to say. All i know is that i'm hmong and i am proud to be hmong. It true that we hmong people dont have are own country,and thatthere are still many hmong out there in the Lao jungle that is still suffering and being killed, yet all we can do here n america is talk about are leaders? Who are we to talk when we are not doing nothing to help the problem huh? General Vangpao is a good and strong leader. He has done many good thing for are hmong people. Why are we judging him about the way he lives and what he do. Like that saying "no one perfect''
    So again to all the hmong people othere just be proud of who u are. Each and everyone of are hmong family have suffer enough. May god be with all of ya

  27. Chris Hudson says:

    How can General Vang Pao be arrested for trying to fight communism? The feds should not have gone after him, he is a hero.

  28. Xiong says:

    Kids, your comments are true from what you may think, but I don't blame you guys because you all are still young. I want to let you guys know that we came to the US for a reason to be educated and learn as much as possible so that we all can help our Hmong people. Long ago we never have a land and now that we are like renters live under other people's laws and in their house, we may be kick out anytime by the owner...throwing our people left and right....don't you see. All of these what Lub Ntuj does is to see if we can love each other and now is the begining of this newer generation. I bet if we don't stop critizing each other we wouldn't even be better than the older generation...they took us here to the US. They have expectations for us. Let us be like a LIGHT BULB and shine everywhere we go starting with you and me. There is only two things I would like all you teens to think about right now 1) go to school and get an education 2) Go and find a job to start supporting your own self
    Look at all high class Americans their grammers and writing skill is go good and they don't talk gang. Have you see any gangs in the US elections or in high positions...maybe only a few or not even one.
    Think about my words and don't get mad.
    Much Love to all you.

  29. Knauj Hnub Jenny Vang says:

    haterz are jus wastin there time..
    talkin all this crap..
    then bac it up..
    if it wasnt for him..
    then we all b dead..
    think with your heads not your mouth..
    he is like our father and our god..
    he had helped all the hmong people come to the US..
    FOR ALL THEM SHIT TALKERS GO BAC TO LAOS N ROTT..
    gotta problem with wut i have to say..??
    heere's my email..
    jennyvang092@aol.com
    or..
    jennyvang092@hotmail.com
    support your people instead of goin against them..
    there aint that many hmong people out there..
    so love on another..

  30. chong k. yang vang says:

    I am proud to a Hmong and support our Leader who face this last hardship. Remember we are Hmong. no mater what you said to our leaders. You have said a lot bad things to our leaders. I know that every single words you said it will fall back to you and you will earn the prize that you has said. cov lus koj hais phem rau peb cov coj. txhuas yam yuav poob los mus rau koj ib leeg ua tu ris, kuv pab nej tus siab. nej cov lus yuav ua mob rau nej lus taub haus ruam mus tag ib sim neej ua nej tuag ua tsis muaj leej twg yuav muab nej faus. tus hais lus phem rau Hmong mas huab tais ntuj yuav rau txim rau tus neeg ntawd mus tag ib sim neej kom tsis muaj hnub zoo. nws tej me tub me nyuam kom raug liam sim raws lis nws cov lus phem ua cem Hmong cov nom. yog leej twg tau twm kuv cov lus no thov muaj tshaj tawm pub rau cov neeg hais lus phem rau peb cov nom tswv, vim nws yog ib tsiaj ua tsis muaj siab muaj ntsws. ua tsaug.

  31. FONG HER says:

    Please people, LEARN HOW TO SPELL A WORD OR WRITE A SENTENCE CORRECTLY.

    And to those you bad-mouthed the general " YOU PEOPLE ARE SO 1-DIMENSIONAL."

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