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Dude he reads this?!??!?! Can I please borrow $2,000? Gustavo put in a good word for me and I'll give you a chalupa. Word.

"Homo-hater"? Are you deliberately simplistic, Gustavo? Or is just easier than engaging people you disagree with in a discussion?

Actually, Warren said a LOT more than that.

What Warren did, AGAIN, was support the schismatics in TEC though I believe he called them (and wrongfully) "orthodox".

Since Warren is NOT an Episcopalian, knows little about the other 96% of us, and has aligned himself to Archbishops Orombi (Uganda) and Akinola (Nigeria) both of whom have openly used phrases about lgbt folks that would frost pavement in August, and both of whom have supported criminalization of even association of lgbt people in their respective countries, Warren's actions are much worse than actually reported.

As someone who once had to deal with Warren personally on a civic matter, I lost all my respect for him then. And it surely isn't getting any better.

Jubal: You're one to speak on facile arguments, but read what Cany below you has to say.

About the kind of non-response response I expected.

You're not employing "facile arguments" here. You're not employing any arguments. Your post is an exercise in trying to shut down debate and discussion by labeling anyone who disagrees with you about same-sex marriage or the ordination of gays as a "homo-hater."

All you ever yammer about is evil gay this, evil gay that...

Really? Then perhaps you can cite a single example of where I have said being gay is evil?

You can't, because I haven't -- but don't let that get in the way of you ranting.

Let's settle this one and for all: do you think homosexuality is a sin?

No, I do not.

Matt Coker and Duplojohn: Knock it off. Howard dons his magnificent beard just fine!

Matt/Jubal: Again, connect the dots. When a congregation creates a schism and aligns itself with bishops who don't even bother with the love-the-sinner/hate-the-sin ruse, that's homo-hating. And for Warren to offer shelter to such people is telling of where his ultimate feelings on homosexuals is.

Or you can take up your "ruse" opinion with St. Augustine:

“That is, he should not hate the man because of the fault, nor should he love the fault because of the man; rather, he should hate the fault but love the man. And when the fault has been healed there will remain only what he ought to love, and nothing that he ought to hate” (City of God, 14.6).

As for who has created the schism, the modern Episcopal Church's embrace of heterodoxy for its own sake, and rejection of orthodoxy and its own heritage is the source of this schism. Parishes like St. James are just remaining faithful to doctrine and the deposit of their faith.