*Note: This was once a much-longer post but was lost because my PC is goofy...here's what I remember:
My prediction: few groups will unleash the anti-gay hounds more viciously in the battle over same-sex marriage in California than the Calvary Chapel fellowship. Founder Chuck Smith is already out there in his loud Hawaiian shirts; now, it's David Rosales' turn.
Rosales (pictured) is the head pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Valley, a congregation in Hell with more than 8,000 members. Yesterday, he wrote a letter to the Orange County Register (not available online, unfortunately) that was astonishing in its stupidity--and, considering I once wrote that Calvary Chapel members make the Scopes Monkey trial seem erudite by comparison, that's quite an accomplishment.
He starts off by saying "as a Mexican-American, I take great insult" in folks equating gay marriage to the civil rights movement, but then can't determine exactly what he is--Rosales says he was born "ethnically Mexican," that "no matter how much I want to, tomorrow I can't wake up Swedish," and that "I can't determine that I am any other race other than the one I have been born into." Sociology alert! Rosales can't seem to distinguish between ancestral group (Mexican-American), ethnic group (no such thing as an overarching Mexican ethnicity, amigo), national identity (here's a Mexican Swede for you, Pastor Pendejo) and race (besides the fact it doesn't exist, Mexican is definitely not a "race," no matter how much Aztlanistas may try).
But that's not even the most offensive things Rosales states.
Pastor Pendejo goes on to claim that many of his followers "came to understand that their sexual preferences were indeed preferences" because "homosexual activists have never proved homosexuality to be an actual biological disposition, as there is no homosexual gene, and they know it." Rosales then equates gay marriage to pedophilia, incest, and bestiality--you forgot urophilia, padre! And he goes on like this.
Most offensive thing of all? Calvary Chapel Chino Valley will have Al-Qaeda sympathizer Dinesh D'Souza next week--and D'Souza will be at the Calvary Chapel mothership mid-July.
Here's Rosales' blog--go have fun with Pastor Pendejo.
Claudio Gallegos says:
Now you know two people Gustavo who will wake up tomorrow and be Mexicano and Swede, and even some Irish thrown in there. Take that David Rosales.
This guy is a total schmuck, how so many people drink the Calvary Chapel kool-aid is beyond me.
Posted on Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 12:06AM
Red says:
No one is commenting over at his blog.
fyi.
Posted on Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 4:29AM
kanani says:
Oy vey.....
Posted on Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 9:30AM
David says:
Take away religion away from this gay marriage issue and use your common sense. Can a man and another man reproduce? Can a woman and another woman reproduce?. This is not rocket scientist. if your answer to this is "yes" you and I probably wouldnt exist. God created Men then he created Woman to be his companion. If God would of created Man to be another Man's companion, where would this world be? I will pray that God May Open your eyes. God bless pastor Chuck Smith and Pastor Rosales and God bless the writter of this article too. God and I Love You.
Posted on Saturday, Oct. 18 2008 @ 11:23PM
Gay Doctor says:
Hey David, what does reproduction have to do with the fact that heterosexuals do not deserve special rights? This is exactly what you have, and you're definitely not entitled to it! The only thing that religious wackos have a right to is the right to not be beaten senseless for having such retarded, inane, childish, backwards, stupid, and psychotic beliefs.
In any event, I'd like to see you and other religious wackos try to argue against gay people having equal rights using any logic (if you even want to call it that... and that's giving your wackos far more credit than you're due) other than that of religion. Fact is, there simply is no reason at all why gay people should have less rights than you Christohet Supremacists. None.
Now to answer your question as to where we'd be if God created man to be another man's companion, well, God didn't create man and then woman... WE EVOLVED. So you're asking a silly question based on false beliefs.
If I were you, I'd go back to high school and get your GED. While you're there, be sure to take a basic biology class. Religion is a sorry excuse for facts and provable science.
All this isn't to say that God doesn't exist though, and He certainly loves his gay children, otherwise He wouldn't have been creating them since humans first evolved up from apes (and even before that), nor would He continue doing so today. Being born gay is no more a "choice" than "choosing" to be tall or have blue eyes. And rest assured, gay people ARE born that way. Don't think so? OK, so tell me... when did YOU choose to be a breeder?
Obviously you considered sucking cock, but you've just decided that, for now, eating pussy is for you (it's OK though, with enough prayer and counseling, you too can change!).
So how did you come to your decision to CHOOSE to be a het? How old were you when you made your choice? What made you decide to choose to be a breeder rather than be gay?
Homosexuality is perfectly natural as evidenced in countless animal and insect species. Maybe you should do a little reading and some research and find out just how normal it really is. In the meantime, your CHOICE to be a breeder does not and should not give you any more rights than those which gay people are afforded. One day soon though, we'll all have equal rights under the law. Remember that the next time you place your hand over your heart and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Remember what the last line says: "...liberty and justice for ALL".
And Chuck Smith and "Pastor" Rosales are nothing but sick hatemongers who need to be treated for mental illness. Hatemongering is indeed a mental illness.
Posted on Tuesday, Mar. 17 2009 @ 12:52AM
Kristina says:
Really? That guy really thinks that he is taking religion out of the argument with that pathetic reproduction argument.
The closed mindedness of people astounds me.
So in that case, we shouldn't allow anyone over 40 to marry and make people get their sperm and ovaries checked out before we issue a marrage license.
I really belive that we will reach a point in history where this seems as silly as interracial marriage banning.
I hope that it is in our very near future that our frinds in the GLTB community get the same rights as anyone else. I will be praying for that.
Posted on Friday, Mar. 27 2009 @ 6:57PM
Gin Flo says:
Why do we decide to take it upon ourselves and judge eachother, and consider our sins to be less then any others... I commit adultry, my neighbor is gay, who goes to heaven , who doesn't , WHO ARE WE TO SAY!
Posted on Monday, Mar. 30 2009 @ 1:22PM