Today, Judge Gail Andler refused to dismiss a contempt-of-court motion filed against Diocese of Orange Bishop Tod D. Brown by his longtime nemesis, John Manly for the recently settled Jeff Andrade case. Read more about the hearing in this Thursday's issue of the paper--for this post, I'll discuss a quien-es-más-macho incident that happened before Judge Andler's court went into session.
Manly associate Vince Finaldi set his suitcase in Judge Andler's courtroom a bit before 9 a.m. He went outside to take a call. Just as he left the courtroom, in came Matt (a.k.a Jubal) Cunningham, the man behind OC Blog and a fierce Manly critic. Cunningham sat next to where Finaldi was sitting. Neither knew who the other was--or so it seemed.
When Manly came into the courtroom, Finaldi pointed out Cunningham. Manly told Cunningham, "Hey Matt, want to go see the files?" Manly was referring to the thousands of pages of priestly personnel files that show diocesan complicity in the rapes of innocents.
"Not today," Cunningham replied.
"That's what I thought," Manly chortled back.
"I do have a job," Cunningham shot back.
"We all know what that is," Manly said knowingly.
"And what is that?" Cunningham asked.
Back and forth this pissing match went, until Manly basically dared Cunningham to go to his office tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. and see all the documents; Cunningham said yes. Manly then looked at me.
"Are you going to be there to make sure he arrives?" he asked. Reading about the Dallas Cowboys' thrilling comeback, I demurred, stating it was a matter between them. And that's when the conversation turned weirder, with Cunningham asking if Manly would make their meeting "another media event" and Manly telling Cunningham, "How about we make a Mass out of it? How about we offer Communion?"
Now, boys. We like the both of you, although we think Cunningham doth defend pedophile protectors too much. But sling your schlongs back into your loincloths, and make that appointment (now scheduled for Friday, per Manly). Afterwards, let your respective spin start anew.
October 9, 2007 15:03
Great scenic writing!
October 9, 2007 16:11
Jubal/Matt won't show up. The facts would prove his defense of child molesters all these years.
October 9, 2007 17:35
"There is no happiness where there is no wisdom.
No wisdom but in submission to God. Big words of no action are always punished, And proud men in old age that have failed to learn to be wise, shall perish by their own hand."
Sophocles, Antigone, 459 BC
"The smaller the mind the greater the conceit. Self-conceit leads to self destruction."
Aseop
"For God hates the braying of bragging tongues."
Sophocles, Antigone
"The arrogance of officialdom (and institutions) should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall."
Marcus Tullius Cicero
No Bishop Accountability? No Laity Monies!
Russ Bianchi
Lay Member of the Diocese of Monterey, CA
For daily vetted coverage of the ongoing overt criminal arrogance of less than 3,500 old and self conceited miters and red hats on this globe in the Roman Catholic Church:
www.bishop-accountability.org/abusetracker
October 9, 2007 18:08
If I were Bishop Brown, I would be doing some deep soul searching about the ongoing legal advice of the two attorneys shown by Bishop Brown's side in the OC Register photo today (http://www.ocregister.com/news/diocese-brown-court-1884282-treatment-women).
Someone will have to eventually stand up and be courageous enough to admit that the legal affairs of the Diocese of Orange are borderline corrupt, infested with conflicts of interest or someone is flat out refusing to properly communicate the laws of civil discovery and trial proceedings to Bishop Brown.
Obstructions of justice and inteference with due process of the law is no longer one of the available options for attorneys representing the Diocese of Orange in a court of law.... dirty secrets are out! What took so long for the public apology?
October 9, 2007 18:28
OC Mom:
If by "border line corrupt" you mean the continued aiding and abetting of known fugitive pedophiles, to hide and be paid by laity, across international borders, like Urell in Canada, hundreds in Mexico, dozens in Ireland, and thousands elsewhere, then I accept your statement of "border line corrupt".
Brown, Mahony, Barnes, Brom, Curry, Walsh, Steinbock, Weigland, Rivera, Egan, George, Law, O'Malley, to name only a few, should all be behind BARS for LIFE.
Obstruction Of Justice has a new standard, that makes the MOB look like amateur hour, and it's new name is, the Roman Catholic Church Curia (or perhaps always was).
Russ Bianchi
Diocese of Monterey, CA, Lay Member
October 9, 2007 18:53
Hil-ar-i-ous
In a world full of sneaky bishops and a flock that refuses to see the truth, at least a couple of people are swinging their schlongs around ...
May the biggest member (bolstered by thousands of pages of documents) win!
October 9, 2007 21:21
There is truly only one side in this equation...either you support molesters or you don't. Manly is on the right side of things and Cunningham, for whatever reason, is an enabler and apologist for the molesters. Shame on him!
I doubt Cunningham will show up. Republicans like to talk tough but they are a bunch of cowards, more often than not.
October 9, 2007 21:22
Hello Gustavo, from one of your biggest fans. I just tried to click on your previous blog about "Callahan the A-Hole" and I was denied access. I'd really like to read it. Can you send it to my email? If not I understand. I write the city of angels blog about the clergy cases. You are an inspiration.
Please do some more descriptions of Brom at the court and all the other stuff. Hurray for blogs.
kay
October 10, 2007 00:16
The facts would prove his defense of child molesters all these years.
"Just asking:" you should try "just knowing what you're talking about" for a change.
Leaving aside the absurd "all these years" comment, exactly which child molester -- let alone plural -- have I defended? Name one.
October 10, 2007 00:21
If by "border line corrupt" you mean the continued aiding and abetting of known fugitive pedophiles, to hide and be paid by laity, across international borders, like Urell in Canada,
Russ, by what magical talent do you know Msgr. Urell is a pedophile? Based on what evidence? Are you just slinging insinuations like John Manly? Or is anyone in a Roman collar fair game for such an accusation?
October 10, 2007 00:30
Cunningham, for whatever reason, is an enabler and apologist for the molesters. Shame on him!
And in walks Art Pedroza the latter-day Pharisee, spouting off with his characteristic intellectual sloppiness. Which molester am I an apologist for? Which molester am I an enabler for? I'll not wait for a logical or intellectual honest one, because that would tax your mind beyond its limitations. But I'm sure you concoct some scrap of sophistry.
I doubt Cunningham will show up. Republicans like to talk tough but they are a bunch of cowards, more often than not.
You're projecting now, Art. I'll be there. But I do recall you wallflower act (or was it shrinking violet?)at the Los Amigos meeting when your nemesis, Mike Carona, who you consider the focus of evil in Orange County, was mere feet away from you taking questions on any topic. And you stood there silently in the back of the room.
Don't lecture anyone about tough talk and cowardice.
October 10, 2007 07:34
Uh-oh...I detect another peepee match between Art and Jubal!
October 10, 2007 09:40
George S. Patton: " 'The ignorance of FOOLS, will destroy them!' You can look that up! It's in the Bible!"
October 10, 2007 10:59
Thanks for the quote, Russ. No maybe you can produce some evidence to substantiate your accusation.
October 10, 2007 12:23
i love how quickly matt jumps to indignation when he ain't the one slinging mud.
grade A douche. through and through.
October 10, 2007 12:56
Every single FACT Jubal, I quote, are from vetted and published articles at:
www.bishop-accountability.org/abusetracker
www.youtube.com DELIVER US FROM EVIL the 2006 US Academay Award Best Documentary nominated film
The NCCB JJ Report
Law Review Journals
Rendered Court Decisions
And thousands of other court documents I have read, or had direct interviews and conversations with CHURCH ordained (at all heiarchical levels) telling me what is going on.
There are no accusations in FACTS, Jubal.
The overwhelming EVIDENCE, based on FACTS, clearly demonstrates a multi decade attempt to obstruct justice, thwart settlements, and continued aiding and enabling of known felonious criminal activity, domestically and on a global scale, that is mind boggling.
I firmly believe Jubal, domestic civil, or criminal, courts, or statute of limitations, or law enforcement, are ill equipped to deal with such national and internationl rackateering, in the known hundreds of thousands of rapes, murders, sucides, mental tortures, sexual assaults, extortions, bribes, physical maimings, oral copulations, perjuries, tax evasions, kidnappings, sodomies, endangerments, contribution to the deliquency of minors, of CHILDREN, FACTUALLY reported, in the NCCB's own generated JJ Report, or the Grand Jury Report about the Archdiocese of Philadephia, as well as many other empirical documents.
One need read no further than Dominican Canon Lawyer Thomas Doyle's salient, factual (no hear-say) and cogent book on the subject 'SEX, PRIESTS & SECRET CODES', availabel at www.amazon.com, to know this entire multi decade crime spree, costing multi billions of dollars to the laity, with NO correction in child safety, or miter or red hat accountability, STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN!
Jubal, what exactly is the argument for the protection child molestors, as the NCCB and Roman Curia continue to do?!
The only solution is for the laity to learn of this ongoing crime spree, and cut off all funds, to force the removal of these overtly enabling perperators, like Brown, Mahony, Steinbock, Weigland, Pell, Rivera, Brom, Barnes, Law, O'Malley, George, Walsh, Curry, Egan, McCarrick, to name only a few, and get them removed from office, canoncially censored, and sentenced to house arrest, like pehophile founder Marciel of the Legionnaires of Christ was, or if they refuse, swiftly and irrevocably defrocked and EXCOMMUNICATED (to play civil and criminal cat and mouse, without benefit of laity paid for armies of lawyers and PR agencies).
It is 1.1 billion global lay Roman Catholics paying 100% of all the bills, and less than 3,500 red hats and miters who are racking up the costs, with no accountability for their ongoing multi decade criminal actions.
No Bishop Accountability? No Laity Monies!
Russ Bianchi
Lay Member, Diocese of Monterey, CA
October 10, 2007 13:46
Jubal,
I think Russ quoted me for this response above.
On another note! Hey, Jubal I know a little place in Tijuana that priests have taken kids for some real special shows like the Donkey show. Wanna go? The catch is you have to be the receiver as a first timer. Kind of like an initiation into a club or church.
Wanna join?
Like the priests and lay workers did to us as children.
I'm not angry just upset now!
October 10, 2007 14:45
As Orange County's leading conservative commentator, Pete Fundy feels obligated to step in at this point and remind everyone that Catholics are not real Christians.
Warmly yours,
Pete Fundy
Senior Editorial Writer
OCLegend.Com
October 10, 2007 15:14
Russ:
You stated that Msgr. Urell is a pedophile. All I asked was for you to substantiate that accusation, which you have yet to do.
October 10, 2007 15:37
John Paul II and the Vatican Billions
WAKE UP, AMERICA! America, think before you spend those US Dollars on useless John Paul II souvenirs and relics that cannot heal. John Paul II did not care - therefore cannot heal - any of the 12 thousand American children abused by his own JPIIPPA John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army http://jp2army.blogspot.com/, So why should we as Americans feed his papal narcissistic self-glory as a saint. The Opus Dei want him canonized as a saint so they can claim infinite infallibility by hammering it upon us: "SAINT John Paul II said it so, (SAINT Josemaria said it so) therefore do it or you are not a good Catholic!" The only way to protest John Paul II beatification and imminent canonization is by our American dollars - WE MUST BOYCOTT ALL John Paul II books, rosaries, medals and memorabilia.
Every year we commemorate 9-11 in New York which claimed 5,000 victims within an hour. Every year we should also commemorate the 12,000 American victims claimed by the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army (which he successfully covered-up) within his 26 years JPII papacy. We commemorate what happened in an hour; why can't we commemorate what happened during a quarter of a century? Are those church JPIIPPA victims less worthy than the WTC victims? WAKE UP, AMERICA! The American victims of John Paul II is double - 7,000 more than - the victims of Osama ben Laden!
Victims - Attackers - Responsible Leaders
Pearl Harbor - 3,000 victims - 170 planes - Admiral Yamamoto
WTC & 9/11 attacks - 5,000 victims - 19 Muslims - Osama bin Laden
USA Priest Pedophilia - 12,000 victims - 5,148 priests - John Paul II + Benedict XVI + Escriba OD (the new Roman Catholic Trinity! Ripley's Believe it or Not!)
The Vatican has $$$$$$ Billions - owned and operated and managed by the Opus Dei! (The Jesuits are all tied on a leash, by the Octopus Dei tentacle leash! Believe it or not! So donate your American dollars to the good works of the Jesuits in El Salvador and the Jesuit Refugee Service . http://www.jesref.org/home.php where millions of people have no homes, no food, and no clothings. http://pope-ratz.blogspot.com/2007/08/benedict-xvi-vicar-of-christ-and-jon.html.)
When will we ever learn about the WORLD DOMINATION of Opus Dei? The answer, my friend, is not 'blowing in the wind' but is within each of us... and mostly the answer is within our American Dollars. Let us keep our money for own homeland security instead of sending them to the Vatican in Rome and more precisely to the Opus Dei -- they cannot protect and defend us -- just like they couldn't protect and defend, for over a quarter of century, those thousands of American children, altar boys and girls victims of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army!
"Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was the poorest of the poor. Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth.
"How come, that such an institution, ruling in the name of this same itinerant preacher, whose want was such that he had not even a pillow upon which to rest his head, is now so top-heavy with riches that she can rival - indeed, that she can put to shame - the combined might of the most redoubtable financial trusts, of the most potent industrial super-giants, and of the most prosperous global corporation of the world?
Read the full article in The John Paul II Millstone http://jp2m.blogspot.com/
October 10, 2007 15:39
Pete Fundy ladies and gentlemen! classic. sadly, i was taught just this, growing up in the warm embrace of a local oc southern baptist church. oh sure, they "might" go to "heaven" if they have jebus in their hearts and aren't "mary worshipers". ugh. this sort of thing tells me all i need to know about the love of christ.
October 10, 2007 16:37
The information you are requesting Jubal is from a trusted PRELATE of a Roman Catholic religious order, with insider information...you are a very ill informed person, and I suggest, most sincerely, you start reading the vetted documentation, and vetted public information, I have briefly listed.
I am no Egyptian, floating down the river of 'De-Nile'...it appears (and I pray I am mistaken) you are Jubal.
Go in peace, or (30 silver pieces), your choice.
Russ
October 10, 2007 16:56
I'm waiting for a diocese supporter to use the term "witch hunt."