I still believe that 6 years of incarceration for Greg Haidl, Kyle Nachreiner and Keith Spann, would have been achieved in Juvenile court proceedings. Too many families and children were destroyed because of the public adult trial proceedings. Was it worth the tax dollars and what Jane Doe went through to prove a point publicly?

Juvenile court Judges would have seen the seriousness of the crimes and would have dealt with the issues in the interests of justice.

Sadly, Haidl, Nachreiner and Spann will be forced to register as sex offenders for their entire lifetimes BUT former employees of the Diocese of Orange that committed sex crimes against children, as adults and members of the clergy, will NEVER have to register as sex offenders.

Is this how society values the protections of children? Children commit sex crimes and are punished by an adult jury trial and registering as sex offenders. BUT, politically connected sexual predators are protected by Judges, law enforcement and incompetent legal advisors. The politically connected sexual predators WILL NEVER see a criminal court like Haidl, Nachreiner and Spann.

IS THIS JUSTICE?

Not sure what, if anything, unrelated charges concerning the Diocese of Orange have to do with this case. These guys got off easy. A mere 6 years and registration as sex offenders? Big deal. THEY ARE sex offenders and should have been put away for much longer for this brutal rape.

first of all those boys were innocent that girl did come on to greg the night of july 4 2002 she came on very strong she took off her clothes in front of everyone by the pool her own girlfriends were disgusted by her actions so was i.she stripped naked and knelt down by that boy and started to take off his clothes she had her head in his croutch.she was drinking laughing and dancing saying im gonna be a porn star she and him began having sex by the pool then greg left stillnaked she enticed another one of his friends and had sex with him and another one.she was all too proud of herself AS a mother i wanted to snatch her and beat her i kept my teenage son awat from her because she was signaling him from over our yard.we were on vacation that day.the next night around 1.00am i was out walking the dogs and i seen her pull up to the boys house again and alone she was barely dressed and was saying loudly lets get the party on wheres my drink.the garage door was open the whole time she was dancing on top of the pool table and teasing those boys and drinking she was having them lick drinks off of her she was rubbing up on all three boys tugging at their clothes she was saying get the camera and film me doing all three of you she got the pool stick and statrted rubbing it in between her legs she showed them what to do before hand with the soda bottle she did not seem to care i was looking at her both nights.i told my husband what was going on and showed him video on my phone she was saying how she was gonna be famous porn star and how she made videos before she was awake on that pool table she was looking across the street at me i was disgusted for her.after hours i waited to see if she was gonna leave the boys walked her outside around 4am or so she kissed all three and as she drove away i stopped her and asked her if she was proud of herself this night and last she told me to fuck off and i thought what a piece of trash my family and i went back home a few days later to nj and i didnt think about it again until years later when she cried rape only so she wouldnt get into trouble for lying to her parents and sneaking out i called the sheriffs office to say the boys didnt force her but was told i was from out of town and my story didnt matter.the hell it didnt those boys lives were ruined for what a lie this was done to get the father out of office and the girls family a few million dollars not because she was supposedly raped but because she was embarrassed her secret was out she should be in jail for lying rape is a serious accusation one that any woman or girl can easily claim and throw around without any merit and this was one time it had no merit im sorry that the people involved ignored me i had nothing to gain from it then or now i feel for those boys because i have two of my own and if some little tramp tried to do to them what she did oh hell no she,d be a star alright a star in heaven .poor boys you dont deserve what has happened to you.

Teresa, you are not only a barely literate ignoramus, but one of the reasons it's so hard for rape victims to get justice whatsover. "[A] serious accusation one that any woman or girl can easily claim and throw around without any merit..." Yeah, Jane Doe "easily" "threw" her claim around, didn't she? If getting her name dragged through the mud by the rich daddy of a scumbag for YEARS counts as "easy."

And the "boys'" lives were ruined?! No, I'm sorry, THEY ruined THEIR own lives -- and they were damn well old enough at the time to know what they were doing. OTOH, the VICTIM's life was ruined. But apparently you're the sort of mother who thinks that all women except your sainted self are out to stick your widdle innasent baybee's helpless penis into their vaginas and scream rape, so you don't care about that.

(I bet you're a chreeeeeestyunnnnnn, too.)

This girl asked for it.. I am a grown women and I know she asked for it. She is nothing but a money grubbing little slut who knew what she was getting into.. I hope she gets some disease next time she opens her slutty legs!

This girl is a liar!!!! She didn't accused the boys to begin with, the tape was found by chance by a police officer and the prosecutors determined it was a "gang-rape" and called this girl's parents asking if she was ok (about a week later of the "rape") and explain to them about the video. Of course, she lied just so her parents wouldn't discovered how dirty their little angel is, and kept going on with this lie. She then got a bunch of money from all of this from one of the boys family, and she was found by the police selling methane or some drug some years later. Come on, is this girl really this innocent? If you are a decent smart girl would you have sex with three different guys, one night, and the next go to their house again by yourself? This girl is not innocent at all. And i'm not victimizing real rape victims, but this girl wasn't raped at all. She is a liar, and a sick person. But sooner or later God will make her pay for all of her evil.

Anna and Laura: Let's hope that your sweet spot isn't as filthy as your mouth and mind. Keep taking that "methane," Laura—HA!

Debby Bodkin -

The little runt haidl and his 2 drug addicted, low self esteem sissy boy rapists did commit a huge crime and will have to pay for it the rest of their lives by registering as a sex offender. By my books, That is the very definition of justice.

Some old homo priest getting off and not having to register, is not justice. It is bullshit. That is not justice. It would have been bullshit if the 3 stooges up above recieved the same. Just because the preists do not have to register does not mean these 3 should get off.
I understand your point, but my point, is that I agree with you in the fact that the preists not having to register is bullshit, but we need to register AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. the more we let slide, the more our system will end up like Russia.

Teresa - i was going to write a response but until i read the bottom part where you said it was all lies, and you referred to the 3 as innocent, I have to ask you, What do you think of that video ? You are unbelievable.

if im ever at a bar and i hear some loudmouth bitch claiming what you are ill curbstomp her male company to the fuckin bar.

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