Welcome to blogs.ocweekly.com
Blogs
  • News
    • News Home
    • Daily News
    • News Articles
    • Moxley Confidential
    • National
    • Letters
  • Music
    • Music Home
    • Top Picks
    • Music Articles
    • Heard Mentality
    • Entertainment Ads
    • Submit An Event
  • Calendar
    • Calendar Home
    • Top Picks
    • Submit an Event
  • Restaurants
    • Restaurants Home
    • Restaurant Guide
    • Reviews
    • Stick a Fork In It
    • This Hole-In-the-Wall Life
    • Sponsored Online Menus
    • Restaurant Ads
    • Restaurant Coupons
  •  
  • Arts
    • Arts Home
    • Art Features
    • Theater Features
    • Book Reviews
    • Trendzilla
    • Submit an Event
  • Films
    • Films Home
    • Now Showing
    • Movie Showtimes
    • Reviews
    • Features
    • Movie Ads
  • The Ads
    • Ad Index
    • Flip Book
    • Media Kit
    • Coupons
  • Classifieds
    • Free Classifieds
    • Real Estate For Sale
    • Virtual Career Fair
    • Personals
    • Personals Blogs
    • Alternative Healing
  • Blogs
    • Navel Gazing
    • Heard Mentality
    • Stick A Fork In It
  • Columns
    • Ask A Mexican
    • Hey You!
    • Savage Love
    • Letters
  • Best Of
    • Arts & Entertainment
    • Bars & Clubs
    • Food & Drink
    • People & Places
    • Shopping & Services
    • Best of Ads
    • Readers Choice
  • Bars/Clubs
    • Bars/Clubs Home
    • Bars/Club Ads
    • Marijuana Dispensaries
    • Bars / Clubs Coupons
  • Archives
    • Advanced Archive Search
    • Locations Map
    • Event Search
  • Reader Recommendations
  • Promotions
    • Events
    • Street Team
    • Join the Street Team
    • On Sale!
    • Free Stuff
    • Sponsored Concert Calendars
  • Site Map

Top

blog

Stories

  • A Clockwork Orange

    Meet Jesse James' Alleged Mistress

    By Matt Coker

    1
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Foreclosure for Octomom, Kids?

    By Matt Coker

    2
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Police: She Sold Kids Alcohol

    By Matt Coker

    3
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Supremes Weigh OC's Poop

    By Matt Coker

    4
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Smoking Ban for State Parks and Beaches?

    By Matt Coker

    5
  • Main

    State Rejects OC Fair Bids

    By Megan Brescini

    6
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Welcome to The Hilarious Haters: MTV "The Real World" Edition

    By Matt Coker

    7
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Drunk Leprechauns Targeted Tonight

    By Matt Coker

    8
  • Dishney

    Disney-Themed Burlesque Shows! HELL YEAH.

    By Vickie Chang

    9
  • A Clockwork Orange

    How to Arm a Pentagon Shooter

    By Matt Coker

    10
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Meg Whitman Wusses Out

    By Matt Coker

    11
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Jim Gilchrist Saves Journalism

    By Matt Coker

    12
  • Breaking News

    Don Haidl Gets Wrist Slap

    By R. Scott Moxley

    13
  • A Clockwork Orange

    Hog Slopping GOP Convention

    By Matt Coker

    14
  • The Hilarious Haters

    Damon Dunn Crime-Slimed by Orly Taitz

    By Spencer Kornhaber

    15
 
241 Toll Road

Robert Thornton, Professional Bitch

By Alex Brant-Zawadzki, Friday, Apr. 4 2008 @ 12:00PM
Comments (5)
Categories: 241 Toll Road

In a move so non-rare it could be called well-done if it weren't less crispy and more slimy, Transportation Corridor Agencies counsel Robert Thornton has resorted to erroneous presumptions and dubious assertions in a pointless attempt to prevent the Department of Commerce from holding a hearing on the Foothill-South toll road extension. Who ever thought a lawyer would be sleazy?

Let us begin not with Thornton's bitchy March 28 letter (Download file) to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, written on Nossaman Gunther Knox & Elliot letterhead, but with the April 3 response Download file on behalf of a coalition of environmental groups, including Surfrider and the California State Parks Foundation, who took a pantload of umbrage at the TCA's request:

This remarkable request is not based on the absence of controversy in this project, but on the very existence of controversy. TCA claims that providing a forum to the public will “drown out” discussion of the project. In fact, it is TCA —which has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of public money on public relations and lobbying firms in an effort to promote the project—that is seeking to drown out meaningful discussion by foreclosing an important public forum on the issues raised by its appeal.

In addition to the Coastal Commission's request for a hearing, the environmental coalition requested one as well, citing 15 C.F.R. § 930.128(d):


(d) Except in the case of appeals involving energy projects, the Secretary may hold a public hearing in response to a request or on the Secretary's own initiative.

Well, that seems pretty straightforward. A hearing has been twice-requested. You can check the law yourself but take my word for it, there's nothing about requests to deny hearings. Thus Thornton's whining seems pointless. But what may be more important to note is that his whining includes falsehoods—falsehoods reported to a governmental agency. Stick with me past the jump for more on the lies as well as an alternative to the 241 from none other than Mike Dukakis, who is not only a visiting professor of public policy at UCLA during the winter quarter, but is also actress Olympia Dukakis's cousin. And something of a politician I hear.

Thornton's letter claims that the February Coastal Commission Hearing, moved from Oceanside City Hall to the Del Mar Fairgrounds to accomodate the over-3,000 attendees (the largest attendance in the 36-year history of the Commission) was "calculated to maximize attendance by project opponents." The environmental coalition responds by claiming there is "no merit to TCA’s claim ... After it became apparent that the original hearing location, Oceanside City Hall, could not accommodate the anticipated number of attendees, the Del Mar Fairgrounds was chosen, as it was the closest location that had the necessary capacity. TCA agreed to this new location in advance."

Either way, the truth is that maximizing attendance at a public hearing is a good thing. If the TCA is so upset that the majority of attendees opposed their project, they should have paid their Laborers' Union goons to stay for the whole day. If nothing else, they're hardworking folk who could use the TCA money. Plus, it's more taxpayer money the TCA can spend on the project without using it on construction, allowing them to maintain their hysterical claim that no taxpayer dollars will be spent on the CONSTRUCTION of the road. Aren't words fun?

But I digress.

Thornton must have the imagination of a vole as he claims the hearing "can only be described as a circus atmosphere at which supporters of the Project were booed and jeered by Project opponents."


"Over a hundred individuals and more than a dozen elected officials who support the Project were not given an opportunity to express their views ... In contrast to the Commission's treatment of [241] supporters, the Commission Chair invited [241] opponents to conduct a demonstration during the hearing."

You don't make the rules, Thornton. The LA Times did report that "outside Wyland Hall, hundreds of people milled about in a carnival atmosphere. Booths set up by the Sierra Club, the Surfrider Foundation and other environmental groups dispensed anti-tollway literature while concessionaires sold coffee, mochas and lattes." The Register had this to say on the so-called carnivalesque environment:


Each side laid out its case throughout the day as a chanting, sign-toting crowd looked on, trying to quietly pantomime their approval or disapproval, as instructed by commission Chairman Patrick Kruer, but occasionally breaking out into cheers or boos.

Wow. I can honestly say without hyperbole that it sounds worse than Woodstock, Vietnam and Baghdad all rolled into one. Or not. And that demonstration Thornton mentions? It was actually a parade of toll road opponents who GAVE UP their speaking time so the commission would have more time to deliberate. It resembled a demonstration only in that their numbers were so vast that it took quite a while for them all to file past the podium.

So where does Michael Dukakis fit into all of this?

In the April 4 Sacramento Bee, Dukakis argues that the Coastal Commission's veto of the toll road "may have been bad news for those who like to build and drive on crowded freeways, but it was great news for the traveling public." Why? High-speed rail, that's why!

"The $1 billion [the toll road's] sponsors wanted to spend on a toll road could go a long way toward paying for the cost of that portion of the state's high-speed rail plan that could take travelers from Los Angeles to San Diego in 55 minutes and from Irvine to either of those cities in less than a half-hour while eliminating a lot of congestion on Interstate 5, not only in Orange County but along the entire route."

Irvine to LA in under 30 minutes, huh? Aside from the environmental concerns associated with high-speed rail construction, it sounds like a nice thought. Or does it? Let us know.

Tags:

241, California Coastal Commission, California State Parks Foundation, Foothill-South, High-speed rail, Michael Dukakis, Nossaman Gunther Knox & Elliot, Robert Thornton, Sacramento Bee, Save San Onofre, Save Trestles, Surfrider Foundation, TCA, Transportation Corridor Agencies, vole
Comments (5) Write Comment
Share

Related Content

  • Railing For and Against Pringle, Umberg, High-Speed Rail July 6, 2009
  • Friends, Foes Respond to Report Dinging California High Speed Rail January 13, 2010
  • Diane Harkey Tries to Kill High-Speed Rail Financing March 16, 2010
  • They Have A Dream July 10, 2003
  • High Speed Train May Demolish Buena Park Homes Designed to Be Near Trains March 1, 2010

More About:

  • Robert Thornton
  • Michael Dukakis
  • Irvine
  • Transportation
  • Nature and the Environment

Comments (5)

Mark says:

Wow, those TCA guys are ridiculous. "The public doesn't like our plan, so let's shut them out of the process" These guys must be so desparate.. And that letter they wrote could have been better written by a monkey. That guy calls himself an attorney?

Posted On: Friday, Apr. 4 2008 @ 8:04PM
Robert Cruickshank says:

Excellent post on the TCA's latest absurdity.

At the end you mention "environmental concerns associated with high speed rail construction." What concerns are these, exactly? And surely it makes sense to evaluate them in the context of the environmental benefits of the project?

Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 6 2008 @ 7:52AM
Adam says:

As a former Bostonian who now lives in Orange County, I can assure the public of Orange County that if Michael Dukakis, former Governor of Boston, promises it to be true it will be anything but...We are talking about a man who single handedly aided and abetted infrastructural meltdowns in Boston that lead to a project well known as the "Big Dig"...if you think 1 Billion is a lot to spend on a toll road, get a load of the final price tag of Boston's Big Dig. Then ask yourself, where does Michael Dukakis and his opinion belong in this dscussion? If there is one thing a democrat like Michael Dukakis knows how to do it is bleed the taxpayer's pockets dry, while continuing to propose preposterous project after preposterous project.

Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 6 2008 @ 9:43AM
marty b says:

The TCA's lack of regard for the truth, the public, and its use of other people's money is atrocious. I wish I could say it's surprising too, but lying and hemorrhaging money seem only natural for a company founded on the construction of roads for use by the wealthy few that's funded with developers' loans based on an understanding that the debtor has an indefinite, guaranteed revenue stream.

Now they want to subsidize the tolls with public funds to increase traffic. So let me get this straight: These guys came up with a business plan that didn't work, either because they set it up to fail or because of some very serious honest mistake(s). Now they want public funds to bail the venture out AND they want to continue building? I'm no investment banker (or Donald Trump), but it seems to me that a company with such a bleak and profound record of monetary failure (with a monopoly for Pete's Sake!) probably shouldn't be allowed to go further in debt. I, for one, would prefer my tax dollars be spent on something other than some failing company's interest and pouting attorney's fees.


Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 6 2008 @ 8:31PM
the TCA sucks! says:

If their intentions weren't so devious, the TCA's pathetic display of "sour grapes" would be hilarious. What a bunch of candyasses; Sorry, but there is really no other way to describe them. The TCA needs to face the fact that CA does NOT want their ineffective toll roads, and just throw in the towel. Their latest moves reek of desperation so badly that it's just sickening.

Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 8 2008 @ 3:51PM

Write Comment


Comments may not show up immediately after submission. Please wait a minute after posting a comment for it to appear.

All reader comments are subject to our Terms of Use. By clicking "Post," you acknowledge that you have reviewed and agree to these Terms.

Tools

Search Navel Gazing


Follow

Email tips to tips@ocweekly.com

SlideShows»

  • Burlesqueland! Does Disneyland
  • Bad Religion @ House of Blues Anaheim
  • Burlesqueland! @ Bordello's (NSFW)
  • More Slideshows >>

Most …

  • [UPDATED:] Bitch Who Left Jesse James is Back!
  • Lt. Dan Choi of Tustin Arrested for "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Stunt at White House
  • Tweets From the Park!
  • Michael Barragan, OC Homicide No. 7: Executed at a House Party
  • Flickr Photo of the Week!: Takin' On the Jellies
  • More Recent Entries...
  • Updated: Orly Taitz Files Rambling Complaint Against Damon Dunn; ALSO, the Sky is Blue (109)
  • [UPDATED:] 3 MORE Santa Ana Schools Among California's Worst (34)
  • Racist OC Register Fustercluck of the Day (31)
  • [UPDATED:] Long Beach's District Weekly WILL Fold (24)
  • [UPDATED:] DA Sues Toyota (12)
  • Report: More 12 Year Olds Huff Than Toke, Snort or Trip
  • [UPDATED:] Benny Hinn Goes On Air to Counter Estranged Wife
  • Bitch Who Left Jesse James is Back!
  • Updated: Orly Taitz Files Rambling Complaint Against Damon Dunn; ALSO, the Sky is Blue
  • Burlesqueland: Two Nights of Disney-Themed Burlesque!

Twitter Feed

Follow ocweekly on Twitter

More Twitter >>

VVM on Digg

  • 2
    diggs
    The Mad Men: Greedy gazillionaires & oil derricks in the sky
  • 1
    diggs
    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (Surprise, Surprise!) Doesn't Li
  • 67
    diggs
    Malnourished Easter Bunnies Seized
  • 56
    diggs
    Jewish Org Says: No Facebook, Digg for 24hrs
  • 102
    diggs
    Man Gets Fired, Lights Ex-Employer's Boat on Fire
  • 85
    diggs
    Stem-Cell Boob Jobs: Doctors Now Turning Extra Fat Into Tits
  • 40
    diggs
    Wear Your Stomach On Your Finger!
  • 62
    diggs
    Man arrested for peeing on 7 Hispanic girls
  • 75
    diggs
    Moron of the Day Paid for Crack with Monopoly Money
  • 2
    diggs
    Butterfly Explosion at SXSW: Irish Shoegaze in a Basement Re
  • 324
    diggs
    Cheech and Chong: 5 surprising facts
  • 283
    diggs
    How a Bag of Rice Can Save Your iPhone’s Life
  • 440
    diggs
    Wachovia Admits It Laundered Millions in Mexican Drug Cash
  • 395
    diggs
    Top 10 Kit Kat Flavors You’ve Probably Never Tried
  • 332
    diggs
    Missouri Lawmaker Wants Women to Give Reason For Abortion
  • 337
    diggs
    Woman Gardens Topless Near School; Kids Like It, Cops Don't
  • 384
    diggs
    Dad Tries to Sell Son on Craigslist for $5,000
  • 270
    diggs
    SXSW Interactive Is Dead
  • 191
    diggs
    Alex Chilton Of Big Star Dies In New Orleans
  • 385
    diggs
    Blockbuster Fights Bankruptcy: A Lost Cause?
  • 8774
    diggs
    Legalization of Marijuana Bill in California
  • 5801
    diggs
    Guess Who is Facing 21 Years in Prison?
  • 5051
    diggs
    Guys Dates Several Prostitutes. No Sex. Just Regular Dates.
  • 4605
    diggs
    Get Up, Stand Up: Ammiano Introduces Marijuana Legalization
  • 3753
    diggs
    Denver Airports Controversial 32 FT Zombie Mustang Sculpture
  • 3742
    diggs
    Guy Dumps His Cheating Girlfriend Live on Radio (Audio)
  • 2720
    diggs
    Meet Scientology's Worst Enemy
  • 2695
    diggs
    Decision Tree: Should I Buy an iPad? (PIC)
  • 2631
    diggs
    The best (PIC) of Colin Powell you'll see today.
  • 2589
    diggs
    Police Get The Wrong House In Galveston, Assault 12-Year old

Services

  • The Gravity Vortex

    View Ad | View Site

Education

  • www.propta.com

    View Ad | View Site
  • Toni & Guy Academy - OC

    View Ad | View Site
More >>

Links

About Us | Work for OC Weekly | Esubscribe | Free Classifieds | Advertising | Privacy Policy | Problem With the Site? | RSS | Site Map
©2010 OC Weekly, LP. All rights reserved.