Scott Jay Abraham Could Get Up to 12 Years After Being Shot by Newport Beach Cop: Update

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See Update No. 2 on Page 2 with the charges against Scott Jay Abraham in the Newport Beach officer-involved shooting and more details about the three suspects in the Anaheim officer-involved shooting. Update No. 1 covers charges in that case.

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ORIGINAL POST, JULY 14, 6:01 A.M.: Two men were hospitalized in two separate officer-involved shootings over the weekend in Newport Beach and Anaheim.

Newport Beach Police say they received a call about multiple shots fired in the 4600 block of Seashore Drive at 9:43 p.m. Friday. Officers say they arrived to watch a man walk out of a home and onto a beach-facing patio, where another round was fired.

That prompted two cops to return fire, and the man was struck. Scott Jay Abraham, a 43-year-old relative of the homeowner, was taken to Western Medical Center in Santa Ana, where he was listed in critical condition.

No officers were injured. The direction Abraham was firing his weapon is under investigation, and Newport Beach cops and the Orange County District Attorney's office (OCDA) are looking into the officer-involved shooting. Anyone with further information is asked to contact Detective Kyle Cammack at 949.644.3779 or Sergeant Keith Krallman at 949.644.3764.

The OCDA is also looking into the early Saturday shooting in Anaheim, where an unidentified man was also sent to the hospital and is expected to survive his injuries.

He was the driver of a Honda Civic that Anaheim Police say an officer pulled over in the 900 block of North Anaheim Boulevard at 1 a.m.

According to Anaheim Police Lt. Bob Dunn, the department spokesman, the cop believed the driver had a gun, an altercation ensued and a shot was fired.

A handgun was recovered at the scene, and the officer suffered a minor injury, Dunn told City News Service.



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meheecan-cris-doner
meheecan-cris-doner

rule number when you get arrested: never talk to the police and request an attorney.

rule number one when you commit a crime: never record it, ha!

Keith Burks
Keith Burks

How can you use FX Justified Copy Content for this article? Did you get permission from the owner?

87kchong
87kchong

It honestly reminds me of this www.rubmaps.com when you see all this growing injustice

Ruben Diaz
Ruben Diaz

And I'm sure the "suspects" were doing nothing wrong and were minding their own business. The cops just shot him cuz he/she was bored...yeah sure ok

Xander Lombardo
Xander Lombardo

Newport beach got nothing but pussy ass white wased Punjab and Jews, you guys can have that shit hole town guarded by SS cops

Xander Lombardo
Xander Lombardo

New port Cop says your from Santa ana? Put your hands where I can see them!!! SD cop says ohh your from Santa ana?? Is that near Santa Monica? You have a nice day sir, OC cops can eat dick

mongo
mongo

Actually they were pulled over (and the shooting occured) in the 800 block of North Clementine Street (right in front of our house).

Krista Donahey
Krista Donahey

The Anaheim was on clementine in downtown near my home. And there was another shooting last night but not by cops on the 91 in Anaheim....sad

John del Real
John del Real

Seriously..isn't there enough bad neighborhoods out there as it is..speedy recovery to the officers also.

Melanie Nepsa-Goss
Melanie Nepsa-Goss

I like the way there is all this info on the NB incident amd nothing on the Anaheim shooting

Rachel Peress
Rachel Peress

Must people turn every nice neighborhood into crap...leave Newport Beach alone!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Trigger-happy Homicidal Cops

bucksters3
bucksters3

@meheecan-cris-doner 

Rule number one for someone with NO integrity:  Don't talk to police and take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions.  Deny it...always.  That seems like the right thing to do.  NOT>>>>> Makes me sick

Tommyray
Tommyray

Its all like that now, the chp that pulled me over in IRVINE the other day had his hand on the gun and a shooting position yelling at me to stay back????

How could I getting off my bike?

All that for tag thats near due.

bucksters3
bucksters3

You're a loser pal.  And, go back to school and learn how to write in English language.  YOU can suck dick.

Whackadoodle
Whackadoodle

NIMBY LMAO   ohhh go away  leave us alone  booo hooooo

gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

@Tommyray All kinds of crazies out there wanting to kill cops.  How is he in a "shooting position", if his hand is on his gun (i'm assuming it was holstered)?

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@downtownbrown @DonkeyHotay 

Why? Because we're just supposed to accept the fact that there are way too many cops out there who are way too eager to use lethal force in situations that don't warrant it?

bucksters3
bucksters3

@fishwithoutbicycle @downtownbrown @DonkeyHotay 


Hello fish....No cop is "eager" to use lethal force.  I've done it and never wanted to do it again.  In my case, a piece of shit parolee put a gun to my head. I got lucky and lived. But no officer WANTS to get into a gun fight. Trust me.

EqualJusticeForAll
EqualJusticeForAll

@fishwithoutbicycle @downtownbrown @DonkeyHotay Two different shootings, two different scenes, two different bad guy guns found, and you immediately cast suspicion on the cops in both shootings.  Yeah, you both think rationally.

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@bucksters3 

I didn't mean to imply all cops were looking for a shootout. And I don' believe all cops are thugs with badges. But I also understand completely why some people feel that way. And I still wonder why it's necessary to use firearms when there are so many other options available. Maybe you could answer that for me...you seem like a reasonable person so you must have been a good cop and your service IS appreciated.

paullucas714
paullucas714 topcommenter

@EqualJusticeForAll The occurance of a police involved shooting has historically been so rare as to warrant full local TV news coverage and endless updates on all news channels. Now its so common it hardly registers a blip on the screen. 

Yeah the current members of the police forces in OC are fucking trigger happy mofos. 

bucksters3
bucksters3

@fishwithoutbicycle @bucksters3 

Well thank you. That was very nice.  Police are trained in many number of scenarios; using lethal weapons, tasers, batons, and pepper spray. We are trained to make split second decisions in our scenarios, but half the time we make mistakes. These are done at our training facility in Orange at Laser Village; a police training facility. They have built shops, houses,etc. there to simulate the real thing on the streets; as much as possible.  After the scenario is finished, we are critiqued and counseled by our training officers.  We are trained to evaluate the situation, which force option to use, and NOT to shoot unless absolutely necessary.  Please believe me when I say that in all my years, I have not met one officer who wants to shoot someone.  It's always an unfortunate act. No matter if anyone gets hurt or not.

bucksters3
bucksters3

@paullucas714 @EqualJusticeForAll 

Yeah, it common now. Why??? So many fuckheads in society now. That's why.  Police are better trained now than ever. Police are not trigger happy. That's a stupid, ignorant statement. No officer wants to go on duty and shoot someone. Not one.  I know. I did it for 28 years.

EqualJusticeForAll
EqualJusticeForAll

@fishwithoutbicycle Accusing the cops in this situation is no different than someone accusing you of pushing that guy in front of the train.  I mean, you were there, right?  It could have happened, therefore it must have.

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@bucksters3 @fishwithoutbicycle 

It does my heart good to hear that. I want to believe most cops are benevolent, altruistic individuals who joined the force to help people...but it's hard to keep that in mind when the bad ones are so horrible and it seems like they aren't punished with any severity for abusing their authority. I'm glad to know that you're one of the "good guys" and have been blessed to work with other like yourself. Thanks again for your service...and the information. :-)

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@EqualJusticeForAll @fishwithoutbicycle 

Years ago, I might not have even questioned whether the police using lethal force in a situation was justified...but these are different times. If people don't trust the police when they claim it was absolutely necessary to shoot a suspect then they have no one to blame but themselves. Too many of them have been caught lying to save their own butts. So, yes, I'm always extremely skeptical when any cop says they had no other choice but to open fire. Besides, they have other options: pepper spray, tazers, pepper bullets, bean bag bullets...so why is the use of lethal force INCREASING when they have MORE options for detaining a suspect that doesn't involve filling them full of lead?

paullucas714
paullucas714 topcommenter

@fishwithoutbicycle @EqualJusticeForAll Not only that, but the old canard about it being just a few bad apples when the question of Police Integrity is concerned; Yeah right; I'll buy that line when I start seeing the approximately 98% of GOOD COPS start hauling in under arrest all those 2% of bad apples. Until that time, they are all accessories before and after the fact in my eyes.

EqualJusticeForAll
EqualJusticeForAll

@fishwithoutbicycle We're just talking about the two incidents referenced in this article.  Both of the dead guys HAD GUNS, including one where the guy was shooting in the house before the cops arrived, and shot again while on the patio after the cops arrived.  You saying the police should have tried less lethal against a guy with a gun?

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@EqualJusticeForAll @fishwithoutbicycle 

No, not in that situation. But there have been numerous incidents recently where the suspect had no weapon at all and the police still thought it was appropriate to shoot them with a hand gun so why should I automatically believe the cop who says a shooting is justified?

bucksters3
bucksters3

@fishwithoutbicycle @EqualJusticeForAll 


You don't have to believe the cop.  They WILL be scrutinized by the D.A. They will say if it was justified or not.  And yes, most times, if not all, it is justified.  WHY??  Because police are trained to know when to shoot and when not. You NEVER hear about all the times police are involved in serious situations and don't use lethal force.  But the times you do, their generally justified. Do right thing.  You'll never run into an officer.  BUT,  most of you don't want to listen to that common sense.

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