Orange County DREAMers Call on Sheriff to Cut Ties with Federal Immigration Agents: Update

See the update on Page 3 with local immigration activists from various groups calling on the Orange County sheriff to cut all ties with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

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ORIGINAL POST, JUNE 5, 7:33 A.M.: After a federal court decision in Oregon, every county that surrounds Orange County immediately halted honoring requests from federal immigration agents to hold potentially deportable inmates past the length of their jail terms. But the Orange County Sheriff's Department seemed to be a holdout.

Until now.

Sheriff's spokesman Lt. Jeff Hallock sent a statement to the media late Wednesday afternoon that essentially says, in light of the court decision, Orange County also will not hold inmates on immigration holds beyond the end date of their sentences.

"I want to be respectful of the most recent federal court case decision while simultaneously being sensitive to public safety concerns of Orange County residents," says Sheriff Sandra Hutchens in the statement.

"I am actively working towards a solution and modification to the policy that addresses the concerns of our stakeholders," Hutches added.

Riverside, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Bernardino and about a dozen other counties had previously ended the holds, no doubt spooked by a letter the ACLU sent to every sheriff in California warning they had better stop the immigration holds or else face the legal consequences. That advice was also passed along by the California State Sheriffs' Association.

This is driving the anti-immigrant crowd nuts, and they have issued a warning of their own: violent illegal aliens are coming to your street.

Some at least acknowledge that counties are legitimately worried about getting sued if they continue to thumb their nose at Miranda-Olivares v. Clackamas County, which concluded that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detainer, without a determination of probable cause, is not legally sufficient to hold an inmate beyond his or her sentence ending date.

The statement Hallock distributed follows on the next page ...



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downtownbrown
downtownbrown

Who cares what teh activists demand.  CITIZENS demand the sherif and all other LEOs cooperate with ICE in ridding our nation of illegals.  Regain our TRUST which has been badly damaged by LEO catch and release, or just plain release of violent foreign felons.

tbone16
tbone16

The only immigration reform needed is actually enforcing our current immigration laws. What activist call "reform" is nothing short of amnesty for breaking the law and that should never happen.

Gentle_Fern
Gentle_Fern

The more undocumented swine that sob like little babies whenever they are held to the same level of accountability that legitimate immigrants are the more contempt Americans will heap upon them. ICE, just show up on time, shackle these non-resident aliens and ship them home. 

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

Anyone want to join me on the U. S. - Mexico border again for 30 days of outpost duty?  Email me.


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

Kudos to the Orange County Sheriff's Dept for holding out until threatened and intimidated by the self-appointed sacred Gods of Governance.


This is just another example of a handful of selfish political leaders intimidating law enforcement organizations out of actually enforcing the law.  These incompetent leaders are known as "idiots."  The only thing legal about them is that it is legal to elect an "idiot" into public office.


But, law enforcement has little choice, it seems, but to follow orders, as ridiculous as they are.  To do otherwise would bring the wrath of the self-appointed sacred Gods of Governance down upon them.  That means they would be fired and replaced with someone else who would do the king's bidding.  


Someday, I hope we have a system of law enforcement where the Sheriff's and Police Chiefs are all elected by the public and answer ONLY to the public.  Currently, they must answer to power-wielding madmen and madwomen unwittingly elected into public office by a naive public.


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

"But the Orange County Sheriff's Department seemed to be a holdout."

Not surprised that the criminally racist imbeciles of the Orange County Sheriffs department would be stupid enough to hold out until threat of lawsuit.

This also reminds me of how the Gates/Carona wannabe mafia crew executed a traffic stop on - Antonio Parkway - as I was on my way to the INS office for deadline sensitive matters regarding my Colombian wife's legal immigration process. Complete with orders to return home and stupid unnecessary questions about my employment - ie my work in Colombia on behalf of an American company and with the cooperation of Colombian law enforcement.

Dorian Jones
Dorian Jones

Hey Martin, actually I would never say "White and proud" because it's divisive... my non-white friends would say "wtf"? I have some Irish and German roots... I guess it's a luke warm pride that I have around Oktoberfest and St. Patrick's Day... but in the end the actual pride I do have is AMERICAN PRIDE, and Martin... if you want to go around saying "Brown Pride" then perhaps you should start looking for a hut in TJ. Because the rest of us are all trying to get along up here.

Federale
Federale topcommenter

Need someone point out that the decision by a U.S. District Court in Oregon has no legal impact on California?

JoeArpaioFan
JoeArpaioFan

"Sheriff's spokesman Lt. Jeff Hallock sent a statement to the media late Wednesday afternoon that essentially says, in light of the court decision, Orange County also will not hold inmates on immigration holds beyond the end date of their sentences."

So does this mean if an white American citizen is arrested in say, Santa Ana, and that person has a warrant from say, New York, for burglary and a hold is placed on him or her and the local charges are dropped, the jail won't hold them either upon their release date on the local charges?

A hold is not a suggestion!  Local authorities cannot defy federal holds.

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

Doesn't holding a prisoner indefinitely after their sentence is served constitute cruel and unusual punishment?

ED Jones
ED Jones

Awesome!! as to most commenters: educate yourself in the topic bfore spewing such ignorance. Wow...

Chris Chapple
Chris Chapple

Labeling people who are opposed to illegal immigration as "anti-immigrant" is a fallacy.

armandocdll81
armandocdll81

This just means that ICE needs to do a better job of promptly showing up at jails when illegal alien swine are released. The alien wretches need to be humanely hog-tied, boxed and shipped home with a "Return to Sender" sticker pasted to their foreheads. Let justice be done! Si se puede!

danmadrids
danmadrids

ahahahaha...........paybacks........!!!

Martin Gilbert
Martin Gilbert

Good try bud, but YOUR Anglo-Saxon Prejudiced side is very CLEAR, like many hide THEIR racist perspective, behind such bills, agendas and laws, though I DON'T CONDONE, ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL behavior, I myself BORN here and HAVE been called that word and more, but instead of getting mad, I SPEAK MY MIND, when I feel like IT, with so many racist, actions, comments and provocations, I pick my Battles, BROWN n` PROUD AND AMERICAN LAWFUL , CITIZEN, SIR!

Jose O Maldonado
Jose O Maldonado

First, Gerry Brown releasing scumbags because of supposedly prison overcrowdness. Now, the counties will be releasing them because of threats by the ACLU??? You very well know that ICE won't pick them up!

Chris J Caroselli
Chris J Caroselli

"Anti-immigrant crowd"? Liberal asshole...I'm not against immigration, I'm against illegal immigration for the same reason I'm against driving without a seatbelt and underage drinking. There's a difference between having a work visa and paying a coyote to sneak a wetback through the desert to use a leafblower at 7 in the morning.

wigglwagon
wigglwagon

It is time to stop all the federal funds that go to Orange County and the other hideouts for illegal aliens.  Let them pay for fixing their own roads.

paullucas714
paullucas714 topcommenter

Well now they will get the bed space thats been lacking for so long.

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@18usc241 The only racist here appears to be you.  Your attitude bears a strong resemblance to the criminal mentalities our cops have to deal with every day.  We need cops who are bold and stoic enough to deal with criminals.  That is why they are cops.  And they are why we have a civilized society…something you could not understand even if they saved you or your wife from an attack by gang bangers.


And what courageous or bold thing have you done in your lifetime?  Sharpen a pencil?  Change a flat tire?  


Get educated, kid.  Then, grow up and get back to me.  I have little space for criminally stupid people in my world.  Better yet, enlist in the Marine Corps or Army Rangers.  You just might convince us that you are a real man.


In the meantime, Cheers,


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

Mr. Jones,


Be careful what you say.  It may be criminal.  According to Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals your use of words of color automatically classify you as a racist.  HOw dare you mention the word "brown."You must now be pilloried until death, I guess.  But, let me check on the punishment according to Alinsky and I will get back to you.


From:  National Police Office of Political Correct Speech

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Are you anti-criminal cop as well? Or do they get a pass?

wigglwagon
wigglwagon

@paullucas714


Anyone who cannot show proof of legal residence should have to await their day in immigration court by returning to their own country where they are legal residents.  Illegal workers definitely should not be allowed to continue their crimes by continuing to work the illegally obtained jobs.   Thieves are not allowed to hang on to their loot while awaiting their day in court, illegal workers should be treated exactly the same.  Do alleged drug dealers get to hold on to their cocaine or heroin until their day in court?  


That would eliminate the problem of over crowding facilities.

gregbpc
gregbpc topcommenter

@meheecan-cris-doner Can we sue the illegals for distress for leaving their dirty diapers in the parking lot, and used toilet paper in the trash can?

armandocdll81
armandocdll81

@meheecan-cris-doner Can Mexicans ever make something of themselves in their own countries instead of crawling like cowardly little girls across the desert in order to glom onto the American economy? 

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@meheecan-cris-doner Sorry.  I don't associate with people who dine in cesspools.  Try a different diet.


Are you really related to that serial cop-killer ?

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

However did I miss replying to your dribble of a comment.

All I can say is that reading comprehension is not your strong suit - or you are amongst the willfully ignorant which in Orange County, CA can be purchased a dime a dozen.

It's because most of my fellow white Americans here aren't bigoted nutcases that the sick few have to spew the tired old racist garbage from behind the door of a broom closet.

Happy sweeping.

fishwithoutbicycle
fishwithoutbicycle topcommenter

@jimgilchrist @fishwithoutbicycle 

It's still not right to hold them indefinitely. If they've served their sentence and are slated to be deported then they should be sent back to their country of origin ASAP, right?

Brainwashed_in_church
Brainwashed_in_church topcommenter

@wigglwagon @paullucas714 Do NOT deport them - that's a big waste of human resources. If they are here illegally, then place them in "Cool Hand Luke" work camps to do the work the illegal aliens currently do for the farmer (or other employers of illegals) for wages. Don't send them back - they are FREE labor for the US. Once they're here, the US "owns" them. They (and qualifying prisoners and qualifying homeless and anyone else who is a demand on society's resources) pick the farmer's strawberries etc, and the farmer pays the state the wages he would be paying the illegal aliens. The illegal aliens now have less incentive to try to move here because the free labor has displaced them. The farmer keeps his cheap labor. The consumers keep their cheap prices. The state doesn't need as many tax dollars. There is less demand on society's resources. The technology exists to implement this securely.

Nomad13
Nomad13

@armandocdll81 @meheecan-cris-doner  Sounds more like the act of a determined person. I am pretty athletic, and I don't think I would want to try to crawl through the desert, hardly, certainly, a "Little girl" should not try to do it, under the best circumstances, but, you feel free to go ahead and try, Armando...

meheecan-cris-doner
meheecan-cris-doner

well my ass cannot taste as bad as the bullshit fox news feeds you, ha!

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@meheecan-cris-doner Thank you for bringing up FOX NEWS.  It was just rated, once again, as the nation's top news network, again increasing its market share of viewers light years ahead of traditional networks.  America is tired of the same ol' propaganda and non-news content of the other networks.


Thank you for providing pro bono advertising for FOX NEWS, even if you do live in a cesspool.


Cheers,


Jim Gilchrist, the Minuteman Project

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