Manuel Ramos, Disgraced Fullerton Cop/Kelly Thomas Killer, Chased Out of Denny's by Angry Public!

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An Orange County jury may have found disgraced Fullerton police officer Manuel Ramos innocent of murder charges in the beating death of Kelly Thomas--but that doesn't mean the public has, or ever will. Instead, Ramos is rightfully condemned to live life in non-cop society as an outcast, looked at with scorn wherever he goes--if he's lucky.

More likely, he'll be heckled out of any room he enters. And that's exactly what happened last week, at the Denny's off Harbor Boulevard in Fullerton just down the street from where Ramos and his fellow goons killed Kelly.

Let's go to the tape!

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The update was posted Feb. 9, but only went viral yesterday after friends convinced the person who took the photo and provided the caption to set their Facebook privacy settings to public; as of this morning, it had been shared over 1,000 times, and will only spread further today.

Ramos no longer lives in Fullerton, but still has family and friends in the area. And now, the jokes: Coker said Ramos ordered the "Rooty Tooty Fresh and Brute-y"; our music editor, Nate Jackson, corrected him, saying "I think you're thinking of IHOP. Or in Ramos' case, IKILL." And Gabriel San Román ended our inter-office chuckle-fest by noting, "He should be in the slammer, not ordering a grand slam."

HAHAHAHA! Just stay in your room, Manny, 'cause such confrontations will happen again and again...

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mannybanny
mannybanny

Soooooo, I bet Ramos ordered a Grand Slam (with extra pig)

srortiz0811
srortiz0811

Is there a way for the rest of us who dont live in california to find out where a murderer lives or moves to so we can know not to let our sons and daughter on medication out ?

srortiz0811
srortiz0811

I guess when you change the report cuz you didnt know you were being recorded has not sound of guilt. Sound like a red flag like police say!

srortiz0811
srortiz0811

That the people in california continue to put up with shit like this is a disgrace the police always say picture dont lie!

elenoreflores
elenoreflores

I took the bus/train a few weeks ago up to north and while on the bus in Fullerton the bus driver pointed at the exact spot where Kelly was killed.  He said something I had not heard before and I don't know if it was true, but he said they broke Kelly's neck too. 

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

So many ugly Nazi mentalities on this blog.  Appears that most of these cop haters wanted Officer Ramos convicted of murder only because he is of Mexican descent.  Somehow, to the pro white supremacists who post here, the only good Mexican-American would be a dead Mexican or Mexican-American,,,even if that Mexican prevailed in a trial against him.  


What an eclectic group of shallow-minded people haters…whose brains house violent, self-loving criminals just waiting to leap out.


No wonder we need more cops.  Cops are the only protection we have against witch-hunting lynch mobs.  Too bad some of you are upset that some of our cops are not pure Aryan white folk.  


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project   

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

KImchale,


Which one of the hijackers are you:  Debbie, Marvin, Paul, Scott, or the late Barb?


The reconquistas are very grateful to you all for stalling any immigration law enforcement progress for the past seven years.


Don't believe me, ask my friend Tom Tancredo.


Would like to enlighten you more, but I have to do an election speaking tour for someone running for congress who has an impeccable reputation for indicting and prosecuting illegal alien slave traders.


Meanwhile, give my regards to your dirty hijacker associates.  They got exactly what they deserved, except I think they should also have been prosecuted criminally, in my blatant personal opinion.


So, how long have you been possessed by Satan?


:)



Later,


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

if "heckled too much"


he could press charges against people



like OJ and many others


those who do wrong, no matter what a jury finds, will always have true justice to deal with

tedcontis2
tedcontis2

Vanessa Zavala and Candace Brito who killed poor Ms Pham and officer  Manuel Ramos who killed Kelly Thomas are clear examples of why Mexicans are natural born killers.


Ted Contis

315 E Broadway, #212 San Gabriel, CA

NoBullshit
NoBullshit

Hate to tell you this but Kelly Thomas is yesterday's news and in 6 months there will be nothing at all worth reporting about him.  In a year the OC Register (if it's still around) or the LA Times might run a "year later" article about the event but it will then die out again. The protesters will move on and do more worthless, ineffective protests against something else just like all good limousine liberals, no reason to show continuity for them.  Nobody outside of OC and LA gives a shit about whatever the Weekly does or prints.  The former cops will walk the world safely and the whole incident won't even be a blip in history.  Welcome to the real world.... 

alexj774
alexj774

BFD The same Denny's restaurant that would have refused entry to Kelly Thomas and any other homeless person, the same restaurant corp who has been sued for discriminating against minorities (including an African American SS Agent on duty)  BFD!!

bingcrosby704
bingcrosby704

its a damn shame they didn't draw and quarter that fat fuck and throw his still breathing torso into a pile of smoldering embers that are just tame enough to cauterize his limb stumps (so he doesn't bleed out and get off too easy) and let the flames take their time burning him alive. then they can throw whats left of him in a trash compactor where it belongs. if there is a god, his whole family will meet a horrible end - and it cannot be too soon. the thought of it brings a smile to my face and a sparkle to my eye

serbialaw1
serbialaw1

Please note that "innocent" and "not guilty" are not the same thing.  One can be not guilty and not innocent at the same time.  Nowhere is that more true than in this case.

elmoby59
elmoby59

On day one of the trial two Ramos supporters, both off-duty cops, made the following comment..."Kelly Thomas was a piece of shit. And so is his Dad". At one point, Ramos was standing two feet away from me. I felt great discomfort and nausea. I sure wouldn't want him around me while I were eating. Or ever again, for that matter.

Since the Jury was obviously too Blind, Deaf and DUMB to convict murderers because they once wore badges, then the duty falls to an informed public to do the right thing. And at every opportunity.

If Ramos, Cincinelli and the others don't like the scorn and derision they have heaped upon themselves by their betrayal of the public trust, that's just too bad.

They get to continue to breathe. That's a better deal than Kelly got.

If they want to eat somewhere, I suggest they have dinner at the homes of the 12 idiots that acquitted them.

policestateussa
policestateussa

There once was a fat man who blew his career,
by killing the homeless and ruling by fear,
his name is MANUEL RAMOS,
he sucks right from the vamos,
and the waiters all just peed in his beer.

18usc241
18usc241 topcommenter

Orange County, CA law enforcement - from criminally racist (1990's) to multicultural disaster (2010's). Evolution in reverse.

Scott Sanzaro
Scott Sanzaro

Its apperent non of you were there on the countless nights that the Fullerton PD and Fire were called out on this drug addict with a tendency to resist and with 3 prior assaults on his record. But your the first to pass judgement when you see a picture of him in high school given to media by his father who had himself filed multiple arrest warrant on his own son. He is not the clean cut kid in the photo, he is a drug addict, he is a convicted felon, walk a mile in the first responders shoes. Not what the cops did was right , but they stood trial. So, now its time for all of you out there to post your own rants about how insensitive I am and how the guys deserve the death penalty. Justice was done.

bphood
bphood

gus, you have gone national with this story...it is all over...now everyone knows what passes for a cop in fullerton..and a jury

clos
clos

response to Jimgilchrist


Are you kidding me!  Did you even take the time to watch the video of Kelly Thomas being beaten to death while begging for his life.  You must be a cop who is posting this.  The courtroom and lawyers are able to manipulate the law.  It does not mean that person is innocent.  He still took the life of an innocent man.  Period!  BTW, before you make any response to me.  I grew up with cops.  My family being police captains, sergeants etc..  I think the police force has changed since the 70's.  I do not believe cops understand the meaning of what it is, to protect and serve.

lsdhln
lsdhln

What kind of reporting crap is this? This is not news. This is fiction with obnoxious commentary. "HAHAHAHA! Just stay in your room" Thank you, OC Weekly, for bringing unbiased local news to the members of the public. This idiot should be fired if you want a chance at any credibility.

Raymond Grossley
Raymond Grossley

True fact: The declaration of independence. Read it George

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

Most of the posters here appear to be zealot cultists whose form of civilization is built around the uncivilized witch-hunting and lynch-mob mentality common to ignorant extremist bullies.


We are a nation of laws, and the application of those laws in Superior Court resulted in a jury finding that Officers Ramos, Cicinelli, and Wolfe being innocent of the charges brought against them by the Orange County District Attorney.  


The verdict was justified under the facts and circumstances where police officers were confronted by a hostile person.  Had Kelly Thomas simply complied with the police officers' requests and orders none of the "rumbling" would have followed. 


If we are to rely on our law enforcement organizations to serve and protect us, then we cannot expect them to "cut and run" when a "person of interest" violently challenges their authority and responsibility. 


Officers Ramos, Cicinelli, and Wolfe have borne the consequences of an unfortunate consequence intrinsic in the performance of some of the sworn duties of our nation's law enforcement members.  


These officers have already been imposed with enough penance to let them a life time.  It is now time to return them to their respective positions in law enforcement, if they so desire.  To deprive them of that would be to punish them not for breaking our laws, but for enforcing ours laws in the best way they knew how under the facts and circumstances surrounding their interaction with Kelly Thomas on that fateful day.  


In my opinion, the officers were wrongfully terminated by the Fullerton Police Department.  Their positions should be reinstated, including a retroactive salary payment for all the time they were suspended or fired without pay.



Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project



hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

I'm still having a hard time believing this is the real Jim Gilchrist! Aren't you so Anti-Mexican that you formed a group to halt their ever increasing numbers?

We aren't haters of cops, just haters of criminal cops! Aren't you? You would be ok with 6 cops beating one of your family members to death while they are on the ground begging, and I can't express the word enough! BEGGING for them to stop!!!

And it's not about race, cause we dislike Cincinelli just as much! Matter of fact, I'm full blooded Italian and as you might guess "Cincinelli" is probably of Italian decent!

But.............The MOFO is too ugly to be Italian! he has no resemblance as such! so I have to believe his step dad was Italian and he took his last name!

Either way, they are both a discrace to both our nationalities or race! Specifically the Human Race!!!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

Hey NoBullshit you are full of shit! Those assholes will have to answer to a higher court someday and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes when they meet their maker! Meanwhile, the years left in this world will be hell on earth for them! Not only cause they have to wake up each morning and look at themselves knowing they are scum but because everywhere they go people will look at them in disgust! And oh yeah, let's see them get a decent job! So, if your a cop or thinking about being a cop and think you can kill or maime innocent people, You better think twice! We are all being judged! And in the afterlife? their juries don't get it wrong!!

godricgriffondor
godricgriffondor

Oink, Oink. Man what awful logic, do you sleep under your bed and watch fox news all day? I've met Kelly, he was clean for a while. He had psychological problems, if a cop can't handle that he shouldn't be a cop. Up the standards for law enforcement, not brutes with weapons who can't think for them selves. Seriously, cops attitudes towards people is terrible, sticking up for those animals in that video is complete and utter ignorance. Talk to a lawyer buddy, them getting the trial done over that holiday period was utter brilliance in a trial setting. Seriously, how can you respond saying a "justice was served" when you clearly don't even know what went on? Ignorance was served.

klmchale
klmchale

No, sir, he was mentally ill. There is a huge difference.  And, because our social services and health care system is broken, there are very few resources for families with mentally ill family members.  The only one left is law enforcement.  Law enforcement knows this but Fullerton PD chose to ignore the problem and refused to pay to train their officers on the handling of the mentally ill, instead, spending huge amounts of money on the North Orange County SWAT, so that they could participate in the drug busts that are far more lucrative to law enforcement.  Plus, Fullerton PD was less than choosy about hiring officers, clearly breaking POST rules when hiring Jay Cincinelli, knowing that he was unfit for duty.  Add in that cops have more rights than civilians, (pepper-spray pizza, anyone?) and you have an extremely poor argument for defending these two former officers.  And, the worst part is that Ofcr. Wolfe got to keep his job and the others involved didn't even get named.

lucidwindstorm
lucidwindstorm

Bootlicker. According to your argument, if your a drug addict and have prior whatever its your fault if a cop kills you?  I bet your either part of the "PD and Fire" or you have family who is. Its always people like you who take it so personal and you end up defending police brutality, and in this case murder. Ever hear of a tazer? "Justice was done" Really? Cause police and other government officials never get special treatment right? Get your head out of your ass.

nancmarlow
nancmarlow

they have a special team to deal with the mentally ill on these calls.......WHY DIDNT COPS CALL THIS IN??.....AND Im a retired Emergency Medical Tech,ITS FIRE DEPTS /COPS JOBS to PROTECT  and SERVE....NOT FKN BEAT TO DEATH and BULLY the victoms of mental problems,he was not a drug addict,he was a humanbeing....in need of help......PIG

bingcrosby704
bingcrosby704

scott, what you are saying is that, because this person was born with a mental illness that led him down the wrong path in life that he deserved to be beaten and electrocuted to death? if you have children, i hope they end up the same way as kelly thomas - slaves to an illness that they don't understand and murdered by the police because of it. using the 'first responder' speech to defend this cocksucking murderer and his gang of thugs is despicable because they are anything but heroes. aside from a minute fraction of cops, heroism is a non-existent trait amongst the police. by and large, the trash you see policing streets in this country are the very same dimwits that could barely pass high school but somehow managed to eek by - slimy fucks that they are - and graduate. so we give these subpar, unintelligent bullies a gun and send them out into the streets with zero oversight or culpability for their wrong doings. and then they whine like babies when one of their own (one of the few good ones - a hero, chris dorner) snaps from being bullied by his peers and starts picking them off one by one. do you honestly think that these half-wits actually have a difficult or dangerous job? do you know that law enforcement is not even in the top 15 most dangerous jobs in america? fucking christ - construction labor far exceeds the level of danger these retards face on a daily basis. and don't recall the last time i heard a carpenter or brick-layer crying about how dangerous their job was. i dont believe in karma, so people need to take matters into their own hands and run that fat pile of slop ramos out of town or, better yet, see to it that he dies slowly and painfully. just like what he put kelly thomas through. 

georgie_xoxo
georgie_xoxo

I don't care what his priors were...I saw what I saw on the video with my own eyes...evil! pure evil! I heard the cries the pleas...I heard it with my own ears EVIL LIVES!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

Scott either you are a cop that goes around abusing your power (because good law abiding cops not only are embarrassed and outraged by what those assholes did but are even more pissed they got away with it!) or you are one of the jury members! Either way? My friend, you are a douche bag!!

april.wyld
april.wyld

A "TENDENCY" TO RESIST? REALLY? SO....HE "MAY" RESIST THIS TIME...AND MAYBE HE WON'T? BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEAT HIM TO DEATH?. SO WE SHOULD BEAT AND KILL ALL DRUG ADDICTS? BRILLIANT...YOU DESERVE THE MORON OF THE YEAR AWARD ALONG WITH JUDGEMENTAL PIG OF THE YEAR. JOB WELL DONE!!! BRAVO! P.S. HOW DO YOU LAY YOUR HEAD ON THE PILLOW AT NIGHT WHEN YOU ARE SO HOLIER THAN THOU? MORE THAN 75% OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW ARE FORMER DRUG ADDICTS ...AND I TRUST THEM THIS DAY ...SOBER NOW FOR MANY YEARS, WITH MY LIFE. WALK A MILE IN THEIR SHOES ....

gigi905
gigi905

Mr Gilchrist, I agree with you 200%.

serbialaw1
serbialaw1

@jimgilchrist  The two were not found "innocent"  They were found not guilty.  Those tow things are not the same.  American law requires proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in order to secure a conviction.  You claim to be a partrot, but do not even know this?  Shame on you.

elmoby59
elmoby59

@jimgilchrist Racist. Idiot. Your wife must be proud. Bet I know why she calls you "Minuteman".

thehighlandperspecti
thehighlandperspecti

@jimgilchrist Well, I am a radio talk show host on two international networks...and let me tell you something about a Nation of Laws. The Soviet Union was a Nation of Laws and 100 millions people were MURDERED AND TORTURED TO DEATH by those Laws. Communist Red China is a NATION OF LAWS and over 150 million people have been TORTURED TO DEATH AND MURDERED by those Laws. IN AMERICA - The Law is HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE AND HOW WELL ARE YOU CONNECTED TO THE POWER MONGERS. 

HAD THAT BEEN MY SON, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO NEED FOR A TRIAL - I WOULD HAVE PERSONALLY DEALT WITH EACH PERSON THAT HAD BEEN ON THE "BATTERY COMMITTEE".

Of course, HAD THAT BEEN MY SON....I would have had Guardianship (regardless of the Legal Costs) and I would not live in a SEWER like California - but like I do now - out in a rural area far from the City Sewers of the Major Cities.

Do you really BELIEVE that NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATHS are capable of REMORSE? REALLY? You sound like a NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATH to me - just like a Hitler, A Stalin, A Pol Pot and a Chairman Mao


I will personally BLESS IN PRAYER ANYONE WHO DEALS OUT DIVINE JUSTICE TO THESE MURDEROUS SCUM POLICE OFFICERS.


Just think, if the crap hits the fan in this country....how many EVIL people in this country will be instantly eliminated - you know, the ones who had enough money and connections to keep them ABOVE THE LAW. 


hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

I don't believe you are Jim Gilchrist!! If you are? no wonder the Minuteman kicked your ass to the curb!! Regardless, whoever you are? You my friend like Scott Sanzaro are a douchebag!! Next!!

bphood
bphood

@jimgilchrist nazi germany was a nation of laws...everything they did was legal in germany.......fuckhole

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@hitman_martinelli  I'm not anti-Mexican.  I am an advocate of LEGAL immigration that will continue our nation as a global economic power and a civilized society.  


I have seen first hand how a witch-hunting mentality overwhelms an issue and how it quickly accelerates into a lynch mob.  I specifically blame dirty journalists, like Frank Mickadeit of the OC Register, for example, for inciting their readers into engaging in a rampaging behavior that is destructive, violent, and sometimes injurious or lethal.  These are thrill seeking journalists, with personality disorders, who will write whatever propaganda it takes to bring them unwarranted notoriety in the sinister part of the journalism world.


I am an avid supporter of free speech and governance through the rules of law.  However, I prefer free speech to be exercised responsibly, not with reckless disregard.  


Our law enforcement organizations provide the essential insurance that our nation will remain a civilized nation.  They are grossly underpaid for the 24/7 services they provide, and they are mistreated by a mean-spirited, ranting lunatic segment of our society.    


The Fullerton police officers did the best they knew how under the facts and circumstances during the melee that was created, and accelerated by, Kelly Thomas, in my opinion.


These police officers should be immediately reinstated to their jobs with retroactive pay for the time they were suspended or fired without pay.  Furthermore, each of them should be awarded at least $1,000,000 (one million) in compensatory awards from the City of Fullerton for wrongful termination.  


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project


NoBullshit
NoBullshit

@hitman_martinelli  You're wrong.  

1. The cops probably don't think they did anything wrong so they are going to go through life just fine.

2.  Again, nobody outside of the LA/OC area gives a shit about the whole affair.  They don't even need to move out of the SoCal area to find a place where nobody has heard of the them or the trial.  You must not get out of your mom's house a lot.

3.  "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people" - Karl Marx


      So fuck off with your heavenly juries of the after life and you, 'tard, are the one full of shit.

gigi905
gigi905

Kelly Thomas was not mentally ill. He was a meth head.

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@serbialaw1 @jimgilchrist  Thank you for splitting hairs on this issue.  You are as counter productive as the illegal alien proponents who do the same thing to justify the presence of illegal aliens in the USA…and their unwarranted plundering of welfare benefit programs originally earmarked for US citizens…like your parents, maybe?


Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@elmoby59 @jimgilchrist  Please reply with at least a pittance of intellect.  This blog expects more than chicken feed and chump change from its commenters.


Did you attend a U.S. public school or something, you mental midget?


Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@thehighlandperspecti @jimgilchrist  

Furthermore, being rich is not the carte blanche exemption from criminal prosecution that you think it is.


If one could buy his or her way out of prosecution, then Phil Spector would not have been convicted of murder.  And the heir to the DuPont Company would have been able to buy his way out of a murder conviction.  They, like thousands of other criminals are serving their time in prison and will probably die there.


Your rhetoric has all the propensity to justify some kind of sick, murderous rampage against anyone that YOU deem should be punished.  I have gone face to face with sociopaths like that and I can assure you that their witch-hunting, lynch mob mentalities got them into big trouble both in the civil and criminal courts in California.


In conclusion:  California is not a sewer.  Sure, some of its inhabitants give it that perception.  But, that is why we encourage as many of them to live somewhere else…just the way you do.  So, just what sewer do you live in now?



Cordially,


Jim Gilchrist, The MInuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@thehighlandperspecti @jimgilchrist  Okay, you hate cops.  You have made that point very clear.  


I don't hate anyone.  However, you can't convince me you are a noted radio talk show host.  A despicable fraud posing as a talk show host, yes.  I run in to narcissistic sociopaths like you all the time.  Some of them are on my side of debates; others on the adversarial side of my debates.  Nevertheless, sociopaths are certainly among us, especially in talk radio.


So, when are you going to seek help from a shrink?


Jim Gilchrist, President, The MInuteman Project    

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@hitman_martinelli  And I don't believe you are really a hitman, either.  BTW, who is Scott Sanzaro? 


So, how many cops would you like to kill today?  Does your hit list also include their spouses and adolescent children?  Are you on contract to the Mafia?  


The only real hit men I ever knew were in a combat zone.  Please spare us your delusional rants.



Jim Gilchrist,   Minuteman Project

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@bphood @jimgilchrist  If you are so concerned that the United States of America has become just another Nazi Germany, then why did you vote for Obama?  


Oh. I see; probably for the same reason the Germans voted for Hitler.


BTW, your point would be made clearer without the foul language.  Such rhetoric only presents you as the dimwit you are.


Just my advice, sonny boy.


Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@jimgilchrist, I agree with your stance on legal citizenship.

But I will never, nor will 97% of the people with common sense agree with your position on the Kelly Thomas Murder.

You really need to watch the video because I'm sure measuring your level of intellegence you will agree with us, it was indeed a Murder!

We need law enforcement but not Gestapos!! There is a huge difference.

As far as your compensation? I think every reader on here who had to read your ridiculous retribution should receive at least $1,000,000 (one million) for the pain and suffering we had to endure reading that BS!!!!

Your turn........

gigi905
gigi905

97% know they are innocent.

klmchale
klmchale

@NoBullshit @hitman_martinelli  Nobody outside Fullerton has to give a shit.  It's not their problem.  But the good people of Fullerton have the right to voice their complaints and have made it clear that Mr. Ramos is no longer welcome.  If everyone cleans up their own little corner of the world, the world would be a much better place.

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

1. Karl Marx was a douche bag just like you so spare the idiot quotes!

2. As far as this news be limited to our geographical location? With the power of the internet? Any potential employer or neighbor will track their crime down!! I have friends in NJ who now know of these douches and they will tell their friends and you know all about the snowball effect, that is how it gets around!

3. Your wrong, I don't give a shit if you believe in God or not! There is also such a thing as Karma!! These assholes will feel the wrath of what comes around? goes around the rest of their stinking lives!!!

Go ahead, counter me with your BS! Bottom line? your on a losing team my friend!! 97% of the people who seen the video know these douches are guilty! The 3% like yourself? Is par for the course! There is about 3% of the world's population who are criminal assholes!!

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@klmchale @jimgilchrist I have always been the founder, leader, and president of the Minuteman Project.  I was never ousted from that position.  The persons who, in my opinion, attempted to fraudulently steal the organization I founded were sued in Superior Court and lost…repeatedly.  I won all the law suits preventing them from hijacking my organization and now they owe me somewhere around $80,000 in accrued court awards. Yippee Ki Yea!  One of them I had arrested on a fugitive from justice warrant and he did six months in the slammer.


One of the hijackers was a personal friend of O.C. Register second-rate journalist Frank Mickadeit, as Mickadeit proudly claimed in one of his usual hate-the-minutemen commentaries. 
Whatever ignorant lies that friend would tell Mickadeit, he would immediately write in his many commentaries, without once querying me, my associates, or my lawyers for rebuttals to the irrefutably false accusations Mickadeit's friend made.  He knew what he was doing was unethical, counter to the professional canons of journalism, and outright despicable.  Of course, none of those altruistic characteristics mean anything to a "dirty" journalist. 
I still wonder to this day if Mickadeit deliberately sent his friend to volunteer for my organization just for the purpose of trying to destroy it.  Had we known of the close friendship between Mickadeit and the so-called volunteer, we never would have let the person anywhere near our organization.  Nevertheless, the hijacking attempt failed. 
Unfortunately, the shenanigans wreaked havoc on the minuteman movement and effectively stalled any progress in getting our nation's immigration laws enforced.  
So, to correct your aberrant mind let me enlighten you somewhat.  
I and the Minuteman Project were cleared by Judge Wilkinson in Superior Court "of any wrong doing."  Mickadeit's editorials claiming that I had embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars, had committed fraud, and was operating some kind of criminal enterprise from within the Minuteman Project were ALL, 100% BOGUS.
Journalists are permitted, under our nation's liberal interpretation of free speech, to do such despicable things without any consequence to them.  The only consequence is the turmoil the dirty journalist causes to the target of his or her propaganda.
If Mickadeit was not such a dirty, sorry excuse for a journalist, I probably would not be so wary of anything a journalist says or writes these days.  I was a professional newspaper journalist back in the 70s and I can tell a dirty journalist from a respectable one.  Mickadeit is neither a competent nor a respectable journalist  He is as dirty as any one else who falsely builds the public trust for the ultimate purpose of breaching that trust.  Journalists are not the quintessence of ethical purity you think they are.  And they never will be, no matter how much of their kool-ade you drink. 
In the future,please do a little research before you spew out a bunch of misinformed, delusional gobbledygook.  Someday, your mental acuity will come out of its shrouded closet and you will clearly see what exactly occurred regarding The Minuteman Project vs. Mickadeit and his hijacker friends.

Until then, much to your chagrin, I will continue encouraging our bureaucrats to simply enforce existing U.S. immigration laws.  Sorry to pop your reconquista bubble. Actually, I really don't care.  I look forward to your hard landing.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President (since August 1, 2004 to present), The Minuteman Project 

klmchale
klmchale

@jimgilchrist  Didn't the Nazi's say the same thing, Jim?  You didn't seem to mind Nazis helping you campaign for your failed Congressional run.  Is Tom Tancredo still ducking your calls?

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@klmchale @jimgilchrist @elmoby59  


Those funds were properly accounted for by the company in charge of running fund raising campaigns in Virginia.  The IRS earnestly gave my organization tax-exempt, non-profit status, claiming to me via telephone that all the pejorative accusations being made about me were blatantly false and my application was therefor being expedited.  I never had the delaying hassles like my counterparts and good friends in the Tea Party movement had in dealing with the IRS.

Federal and state law enforcement organizations declined to pursue indictments of any kind because their  investigations proved that the claims being made about my organization were absolutely false.  It was a nuisance dealing with all the inquisitions, but a necessary nuisance under the circumstances.


I had the option of suing the persons (including Frank Mickadeit and his OC Register) responsible for these "BIG LIES" that literally duped millions of people coast to coast, in my opinion.  But, my associates and I decided not to expend the time and resources in more litigation and to get on with our mission to support immigration law enforcement.


BTW, Shawna Forde was never a member of the Minuteman Project.  She ran her own so-called border protection group.  I don't know where you bought into that bogus information…perhaps from more propaganda created by sworn enemies of immigration law enforcement…or the hijackers whose fannies I virtually kicked half way to Saigon in Superior Court.


Fortunately for me, my associates, and the Minuteman Project, being able to post the truth against all the incredible propaganda I read about us on this blog is a good thing.  Unfortunately for you, it does not matter what the facts or circumstances of any issue are…you will always believe what that mysterious little voice in your head tells you.  That's why you are the viciously judgmental and stoically stupid person you are.  


But we need losers like you.  Only then can the public  distinguish between reason and the incurable lunacy common to 

village idiots and "dirty" journalists.


I know people with sick cravings like you, and Mickadeit, and similar dimwits want to see me in an orange jumpsuit in prison, but that will not be.  In the United States of America the odds of imprisoning an innocent person are astronomical.  And since you can't even win the power ball lottery with odds in the mega millions, I doubt that I will ever be committed to prison for something I never did.  You are just not that lucky.


Meanwhile, enjoy Mickadeit and your hijacker friends, and the CCIR gang.  


:)

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project (and associates)



klmchale
klmchale

@jimgilchrist @elmoby59  Well, for an accountant, you have a hard time with the number $750K.  You never did seem to account for it to your group, which is why they booted you.

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@hitman_martinelli  I have always been the founder, leader, and president of the Minuteman Project.  I was never ousted from that position.  The persons who, in my opinion, attempted to fraudulently steal the organization I founded were sued in Superior Court and lost…repeatedly.  I won all the law suits preventing them from hijacking my organization and now they owe me somewhere around $80,000 in accrued court awards. Yippee Ki Yea!  One of them I had arrested on a fugitive from justice warrant and he did six months in the slammer.


One of the hijackers was a personal friend of O.C. Register second-rate journalist Frank Mickadeit, as Mickadeit proudly claimed in one of his usual hate-the-minutemen commentaries. 
Whatever ignorant lies that friend would tell Mickadeit, he would immediately write in his many commentaries, without once querying me, my associates, or my lawyers for rebuttals to the irrefutably false accusations Mickadeit's friend made.  He knew what he was doing was unethical, counter to the professional canons of journalism, and outright despicable.  Of course, none of those altruistic characteristics mean anything to a "dirty" journalist. 
I still wonder to this day if Mickadeit deliberately sent his friend to volunteer for my organization just for the purpose of trying to destroy it.  Had we known of the close friendship between Mickadeit and the so-called volunteer, we never would have let the person anywhere near our organization.  Nevertheless, the hijacking attempt failed. 
Unfortunately, the shenanigans wreaked havoc on the minuteman movement and effectively stalled any progress in getting our nation's immigration laws enforced.  
So, to correct your aberrant mind let me enlighten you somewhat.  
I and the Minuteman Project were cleared by Judge Wilkinson in Superior Court "of any wrong doing."  Mickadeit's editorials claiming that I had embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars, had committed fraud, and was operating some kind of criminal enterprise from within the Minuteman Project were ALL, 100% BOGUS.
Journalists are permitted, under our nation's liberal interpretation of free speech, to do such despicable things without any consequence to them.  The only consequence is the turmoil the dirty journalist causes to the target of his or her propaganda.
If Mickadeit was not such a dirty, sorry excuse for a journalist, I probably would not be so wary of anything a journalist says or writes these days.  I was a professional newspaper journalist back in the 70s and I can tell a dirty journalist from a respectable one.  Mickadeit is neither a competent nor a respectable journalist  He is as dirty as any one else who falsely builds the public trust for the ultimate purpose of breaching that trust.  Journalists are not the quintessence of ethical purity you think they are.  And they never will be, no matter how much of their kool-ade you drink. 
In the future,please do a little research before you spew out a bunch of misinformed, delusional gobbledygook.  Someday, your mental acuity will come out of its shrouded closet and you will clearly see what exactly occurred regarding The Minuteman Project vs. Mickadeit and his hijacker friends.

Until then, much to your chagrin, I will continue encouraging our bureaucrats to simply enforce existing U.S. immigration laws.  Sorry to pop your reconquista bubble. Actually, I really don't care.  I look forward to your hard landing.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President (since August 1, 2004 to present), The Minuteman Project 

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

@klmchale @hitman_martinelli  I have always been the founder, leader, and president of the Minuteman Project.  I was never ousted from that position.  The persons who, in my opinion, attempted to fraudulently steal the organization I founded were sued in Superior Court and lost…repeatedly.  I won all the law suits preventing them from hijacking my organization and now they owe me somewhere around $80,000 in accrued court awards. Yippee Ki Yea!  One of them I had arrested on a fugitive from justice warrant and he did six months in the slammer.


One of the hijackers was a personal friend of O.C. Register second-rate journalist Frank Mickadeit, as Mickadeit proudly claimed in one of his usual hate-the-minutemen commentaries. 
Whatever ignorant lies that friend would tell Mickadeit, he would immediately write in his many commentaries, without once querying me, my associates, or my lawyers for rebuttals to the irrefutably false accusations Mickadeit's friend made.  He knew what he was doing was unethical, counter to the professional canons of journalism, and outright despicable.  Of course, none of those altruistic characteristics mean anything to a "dirty" journalist. 
I still wonder to this day if Mickadeit deliberately sent his friend to volunteer for my organization just for the purpose of trying to destroy it.  Had we known of the close friendship between Mickadeit and the so-called volunteer, we never would have let the person anywhere near our organization.  Nevertheless, the hijacking attempt failed. 
Unfortunately, the shenanigans wreaked havoc on the minuteman movement and effectively stalled any progress in getting our nation's immigration laws enforced.  
So, to correct your aberrant mind let me enlighten you somewhat.  
I and the Minuteman Project were cleared by Judge Wilkinson in Superior Court "of any wrong doing."  Mickadeit's editorials claiming that I had embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars, had committed fraud, and was operating some kind of criminal enterprise from within the Minuteman Project were ALL, 100% BOGUS.
Journalists are permitted, under our nation's liberal interpretation of free speech, to do such despicable things without any consequence to them.  The only consequence is the turmoil the dirty journalist causes to the target of his or her propaganda.
If Mickadeit was not such a dirty, sorry excuse for a journalist, I probably would not be so wary of anything a journalist says or writes these days.  I was a professional newspaper journalist back in the 70s and I can tell a dirty journalist from a respectable one.  Mickadeit is neither a competent nor a respectable journalist  He is as dirty as any one else who falsely builds the public trust for the ultimate purpose of breaching that trust.  Journalists are not the quintessence of ethical purity you think they are.  And they never will be, no matter how much of their kool-ade you drink. 
In the future,please do a little research before you spew out a bunch of misinformed, delusional gobbledygook.  Someday, your mental acuity will come out of its shrouded closet and you will clearly see what exactly occurred regarding The Minuteman Project vs. Mickadeit and his hijacker friends.

Until then, much to your chagrin, I will continue encouraging our bureaucrats to simply enforce existing U.S. immigration laws.  Sorry to pop your reconquista bubble. Actually, I really don't care.  I look forward to your hard landing.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President (since August 1, 2004 to present), The Minuteman Project 

jimgilchrist
jimgilchrist

I have always been the founder, leader, and president of the Minuteman Project.  I was never ousted from that position.  The persons who, in my opinion, attempted to fraudulently steal the organization I founded were sued in Superior Court and lost…repeatedly.  I won all the law suits preventing them from hijacking my organization and now they owe me somewhere around $80,000 in accrued court awards. Yippee Ki Yea!  One of them I had arrested on a fugitive from justice warrant and he did six months in the slammer.


One of the hijackers was a personal friend of O.C. Register second-rate journalist Frank Mickadeit, as Mickadeit proudly claimed in one of his usual hate-the-minutemen commentaries. 
Whatever ignorant lies that friend would tell Mickadeit, he would immediately write in his many commentaries, without once querying me, my associates, or my lawyers for rebuttals to the irrefutably false accusations Mickadeit's friend made.  He knew what he was doing was unethical, counter to the professional canons of journalism, and outright despicable.  Of course, none of those altruistic characteristics mean anything to a "dirty" journalist. 
I still wonder to this day if Mickadeit deliberately sent his friend to volunteer for my organization just for the purpose of trying to destroy it.  Had we known of the close friendship between Mickadeit and the so-called volunteer, we never would have let the person anywhere near our organization.  Nevertheless, the hijacking attempt failed. 
Unfortunately, the shenanigans wreaked havoc on the minuteman movement and effectively stalled any progress in getting our nation's immigration laws enforced.  
So, to correct your aberrant mind let me enlighten you somewhat.  
I and the Minuteman Project were cleared by Judge Wilkinson in Superior Court "of any wrong doing."  Mickadeit's editorials claiming that I had embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars, had committed fraud, and was operating some kind of criminal enterprise from within the Minuteman Project were ALL, 100% BOGUS.
Journalists are permitted, under our nation's liberal interpretation of free speech, to do such despicable things without any consequence to them.  The only consequence is the turmoil the dirty journalist causes to the target of his or her propaganda.
If Mickadeit was not such a dirty, sorry excuse for a journalist, I probably would not be so wary of anything a journalist says or writes these days.  I was a professional newspaper journalist back in the 70s and I can tell a dirty journalist from a respectable one.  Mickadeit is neither a competent nor a respectable journalist  He is as dirty as any one else who falsely builds the public trust for the ultimate purpose of breaching that trust.  Journalists are not the quintessence of ethical purity you think they are.  And they never will be, no matter how much of their kool-ade you drink. 
In the future,please do a little research before you spew out a bunch of misinformed, delusional gobbledygook.  Someday, your mental acuity will come out of its shrouded closet and you will clearly see what exactly occurred regarding The Minuteman Project vs. Mickadeit and his hijacker friends.

Until then, much to your chagrin, I will continue encouraging our bureaucrats to simply enforce existing U.S. immigration laws.  Sorry to pop your reconquista bubble. Actually, I really don't care.  I look forward to your hard landing.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President (since August 1, 2004 to present), The Minuteman Project 

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@klmchale, Thank you for the info. and being you brought it to Jim's attention maybe we won't hear from him anymore!

klmchale
klmchale

@hitman_martinelli  MM also accused him of embezzlement and funding a murderer.  It's called "being a huge liability". Google Shawna Forde.  

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@jimgilchrist, It's starting to come back to me. You were kicked out of the Minuteman Project and spend way to much negative time trying to sue your way back in! Wasn't it something like that? Of course you lost and now you hate the world!

Ok, The reason I heard they wanted you out was cause of your dictator type personality! It wears people down! Excatly what your doing to us on here!

Your views kind of reminds us of someone!!........Oh Yeah!, HITLER!!

hitman_martinelli
hitman_martinelli

@jimgilchrist, Be honest for one second! Watch the video one more time! Can you honestly tell everyone who is posting here that, that was not "Extreme use of force"?

Also, Your not kidding us, you are an anti-minuteman who goes under this ruse to get people to hate the minuteman organization. I know this cause the minuteman is for the people!

No true minuteman would condone what those cops did and the liberal jury who wouldn't convict.

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