Calvary Chapel Continues Homo-Hating Ways Even After Chuck Smith's Passing by Targeting Transgendered-Student Bill

Whenever the leader of a church passes away, the expectation is usually that the new leader will take it in a new direction to correct the excesses of the previous regime. Not so with Calvary Chapel, whose founder and leader Chuck Smith passed away last month. Papa Chuck set Calvary Chapel on a path to despise anything and everything LGBT, and they're continuing his proud tradition by helping to gather signatures for a proposed ballot measure that would target transgendered students in California's K-12 schools.

The target of their ire is AB 1266, which allows transgendered students to participate in school sports or use locker or bathroom facilities according to whichever gender they identify. Critics--and really, the only people who are criticizing AB 1266 are homophobes--claim this will lead to homosexuals invading the personal space of defenseless heteros and are busy gathering signatures to put an initiative on the ballot repealing the assembly bill, much like they did with Proposition 8 (so don't count them out, lefties).

In Southern California, the lead man on this has been Calvary Chapel Chino Hills pastor Jack Hibbs. His church is listed as the main gathering point for anyone seeking to sign the petition. He even recorded a segment for the initiative:

Should be fun!

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FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

As a woman, I am offended by all you folks who believe we shouldn't accept and accommodate transgendered people because you think it's putting GIRLS in danger. The whole premise of that argument is extremely sexist.

Bonnie Kennedy
Bonnie Kennedy

Lol. Because I don't want men in my bathroom and don't see the need for it? Yeah, you're evolved lol

Timmy Todd
Timmy Todd

Crawl back under the rock you came from.......Ugly American....... Remember, we in Europe sent the French to Canada, the Criminals to Australia,,,, and the nasty provincials to America.............Foul Foul Human.........

Bonnie Kennedy
Bonnie Kennedy

I know what it means, sir. The post accused people of being anti-gay if they weren't into the idea of opposite sex people entering their otherwise-private areas. And sir, if I told you that you just needed to be more like me and care about your privacy and safety, what would you say? Uh, no I don't. I live in America and have adjusted to American culture during my lifetime, that is true. If i wanted to be European, I would move.

David William Wagner
David William Wagner

People get so up-tight. go to Europe! they have coed bathrooms everywhere. Americans are puritans who need to open their eyes

brandyspearsca
brandyspearsca

Pastor Hibbs sounds like his been sniffing his toupee glue again. 

ChucksHypocrisy
ChucksHypocrisy

Not a fan of the disciples of Chuck, but if Amber has an outie...pee in the boys room.  If Greg has an innie...pee in the girls room.

Maranatha
Maranatha

This is just a microcosm of how those who believe in Christ are shown to be narrow minded. It is not are foundations of Truth we stand on,but the truths of God. I dont hate the sinner,but the sin they commit or choose to live. I made my decision to follow Christ and try ( not always with success) to show this world a compassionate,and loving attitude. I pray for all who are living in sin( murderers,liars,homosexuals,etc..) and pray they will see what I have believed in for over 10 years. There is a God,there is a heaven,and there is a hell. The evidence is there for all to see and denying the truth does not make it any less true.

Regarding ab 1266, I would not want my children to be subjugated to  a child's decision whether they use the other genders bathroom or locker room. For the reason that evidently there will be stories of children deciding there gender for the sole purpose of seeing other kids in that setting. It would happen, because this is the world we live in. If there is another solution to the problem I would be willing to look at it

John Olsen
John Olsen

transgendered does not mean gay. You need to do some research on this topic.

npssecure
npssecure

If you were looking for a boundary, you found it. If a boy goes into a girl's bathroom expect something bad to happen.

stick to the facts, the propaganda does not defy the facts, it is still a male regardless of how they dress

Ken Webb
Ken Webb

A transgendered student is TRANSGENDERED.

Ken Webb
Ken Webb

The site is whack and I can't post: People act like this is such a horrible thing,... When what they really mean is that they would prefer the child in question to be beat up,..threatened,..harassed and otherwise treated badly. Schools could very easily provide a private changing/shower area for these kids to change and shower in without offending anyone. Why in the world schools, parents, and staff insist on making this issue such a huge issue is beyond me. Transgendered people are common and have been common for decades. A transvestite is not transgendered. A drag queen is not transgendered or a transvestite. My goodness it is such a simple issue to address - but then the perverts posting here who are titilated and more by something different are quite loathsome. The kids in question aught to be allowed to participate in sports and not be forced to shower in a communal shower with other students who would be unable and unwilling to behave decently. A simple separate changing/shower area is such a simple solution. Evil mannered and malicious comments are going to achieve nothing here. If you have kids and your ideology requires you to teach your children to treat others badly,...that is your choice. If you have children and your ideology requires you to teach your children things like peace, patience, love, and similar things,...then go for it.

kenwebb
kenwebb

People act like this is such a horrible thing,... When what they really mean is that they would prefer the child in question to be beat up,..threatened,..harassed and otherwise treated badly. Schools could very easily provide a private changing/shower area for these kids to change and shower in without offending anyone. Why in the world schools, parents, and staff insist on making this issue such a huge issue is beyond me. Transgendered people are common and have been common for decades. A transvestite is not transgendered. A drag queen is not transgendered or a transvestite. My goodness it is such a simple issue to address - but then the perverts posting here who are titilated and more by something different are quite loathsome. The kids in question aught to be allowed to participate in sports and not be forced to shower in a communal shower with other students who would be unable and unwilling to behave decently. A simple separate changing/shower area is such a simple solution. Evil mannered and malicious comments are going to achieve nothing here. If you have kids and your ideology requires you to teach your children to treat others badly,...that is your choice. If you have children and your ideology requires you to teach your children things like peace, patience, love, and similar things,...then go for it.

Christopher Marc Hubbard
Christopher Marc Hubbard

so simply believing that boys belong in boys bathrooms and girls in the girls bathroom now makes one a "home"hater" oc weekly?? i take it none of you have a teenage or tweenage daughter. good grief!

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

Join my church. The church of keep it to your fuxking self

Deanna Cano
Deanna Cano

That video is ridiculous and that pastor is too! His message "isn't political?," "has nothing to do with politics?," BUT "sign this petition?" WTH? "Jesus said we must protect the innocent," from a transgender student who has to take a leak? So silly. I pulled my daughters out of Maranatha Christian Academy (Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) after the school-wide epidemic of little middle school girls giving boys blow jobs in the bathrooms and after a teacher was fired for having a "relationship" with his student. Calvary Chapel pastors need to worry about what their students are doing in their school bathrooms (drugs & f*@$ing) before meddling with issues of the state.

Bonnie Kennedy
Bonnie Kennedy

I dunno, I respect that gay people are just people and should be able to be honest about who they are without societal retribution, and support gay marriage, and I just dont see why its necessary to let people use the bathroom or locker room of the opposite sex. it doesnt make sense to me. where's the necessity for that? if they actually have the opposite genetalia than expected by their outward appearance, thats one thing. but saying you feel like youre a boy, so you should be able to use those facilities... how does that make sense? i havent gotten it from the beginning. i think its a good way to end up getting sexually assaulted.

Staci Williams
Staci Williams

I find it amusing that the people who say love your neighbors, are the ones doing the exact opposite

vegandawg23
vegandawg23 topcommenter

Are transgenders homos? Thought it was just deviated prevert guys who like to dress up like girls? 

allyjefferson
allyjefferson

Just curious...how many of you have school aged children?

20ftjesus
20ftjesus topcommenter

Just curious, who is taking over the Costa Mesa (i.e. Santa Ana) HQ now that Chuckie is gone?

JBinOC
JBinOC topcommenter

I can't wait for the avalanche of comments from Calvary Church members/public relations specialists telling us how loving and receptive their church is. 


Maranatha
Maranatha

no I don't think so. I think you're thinking of the transgender Only. have you ever thought of the boys girls would Not want to shower with a transgender. I think U r narrow minded

Maranatha
Maranatha

Not really.your jusy thinking of the so called transgenders, what about the boys and girls would have a problem sharing a room with them you ever thought of that?

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@Bonnie Kennedy  

I'm a woman, too. A woman who believes in judging someone as an individual.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@Bonnie Kennedy  

Showing acceptance and respect to transgendered people isn't a "European" thing...it's a "compassionate human being" thing...

Muhammed
Muhammed

@Maranatha "( not always with success) to show this world a compassionate,and loving attitude."

This is one of those times.

n2bigmuscle
n2bigmuscle

So, if you had a daughter and she was not comfortable showering with a transgenered who had a penis you would force her to take that shower?  If  so, then would you say the transgenered feelings are more important than your daugther's feelings?  There has got to be a balance and letting underage kids shower and pooping together is just wrong.  That is what you do at college. 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@kenwebb  

No arguments from me. Personally, my intention was to combat the narrow-mindedness. I believe gender identity/sexuality is an intensely personal, extremely complex matter that cannot be tidily summarized in a few sentences...

I know we are in complete agreement that the purpose of AB 1266 is to protect children and anyone who has a problem protecting the welfare of children is truly a lost soul...

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@vegandawg23  

You're not posing questions as much as finding an excuse to express some extremely ignorant personal views...

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@JBinOC  

Yet not one of them will address the fact that they are ok with belonging to an institution that believes in using freedom of religion to try and deny basic rights and freedoms to some of their fellow human beings...

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@Maranatha  

I'm offended by the idea that females always need protection from males. As if girls are so spineless that they wouldn't speak up/take action if they suspected the person using their bathroom or shower wasn't truly transgendered but just a boy hoping to get peek at them.

kenwebb
kenwebb

You really missed reading the post. But that is ok. The utter crazy idea that a transgendered student is going to jump up and stand right In front of anyone and wiggle their body parts for your daughter to gawk at,...is at best very very silly. The mind set that it is somehow impossible for a school to even think about a seperate and safe changing area area for a trans student is also pretty narrow minded -

It's funny that someone would be upset,...about this and not a care in the world if a lesbian teacher or student showered with your daughter,..... The complexities just get crazier and crazier. Thank goodness someone at the school will consider a shower curtain or something.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@n2bigmuscle  

You know there is such as thing as restroom and shower stalls with DOORS, right? There is also the novel concept of teaching kids acceptance and trusting them to do the right thing...

vegandawg23
vegandawg23 topcommenter

@FishWithoutBicycle @vegandawg23 You're not answering questions but making ad hominem attacks. Ignorant is a word people like yourself use to categorize someone with a differing opinion. It was a statement. Transgender people aren't necessarily homosexuals. Ever seen Ed Wood? Guy was transgendered but married and liked women. Just a weirdo who liked to dress up like a girl. 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@Maranatha  

I'm not saying it would necessarily be fun for a girl going to the boy's room, either. I think part of the problem is that many children are taught by their parents to be intolerant of those who are different from them...that's what would spark most of the fights in the bathroom...or the shower. :-(

Maranatha
Maranatha

well I'm sorry if you're offended. I'm sure no boy in the world we live in today, would take advantage of the situation. what do you expect the girls do about the situationif they are uncomfortable,they are uncomfortable. I would hate to think about all the abuse of girls would take going to the boys room. you say you're only seeing it from one side you have to look at the whole situation

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@n2bigmuscle  

Girls razz other girls about their bodies...boys razz other boys, too. For this reason there should be showers with stalls in schools anyway. I've never liked the idea of communal showering...I do cherish privacy.

---

"I would not want to shower with a lady watching her take out her tampoon and lathering-up her kooch.  It's just nasty and wrong."

Apparently women and their natural functions/anatomy offends you...

n2bigmuscle
n2bigmuscle

No, there are no doors in school showers.  It's a big room.  Kids have issue with their bodies already but people like you are now forcing girls to shower with boys becuase of  "feelings".  I would not want to shower with a lady watching her take out her tampoon and lathering-up her kooch.  It's just nasty and wrong.

n2bigmuscle
n2bigmuscle

I said showers. There are no doors in school showers   It's a big room.  There is a big difference between acceptance and showering naked with the opposite sex.  These kids already have issues with their bodies, now you say it's ok for boys to shower with girls?    

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

@vegandawg23 @FishWithoutBicycle  

"Transgender people aren't necessarily homosexuals." Agreed!

However,

"Guy was transgendered but married and liked women. Just a weirdo who liked to dress up like a girl." 

May I point out "weirdo" was the word YOU chose...as well as the phrase "deviated pervert guys" in the previous post. 

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