Rick Warren's Social Media Posts Have Some Seeing Red Even After Pastor's Apology

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Rick Warren may have figured all's well that ends well after he apologized and removed a tweet and Facebook post that prominently featured an image of an energetic young Red Army woman, but many say Saddleback Church's Purpose-Driven pastor did not go far enough.

"[D]eleting something doesn't actually address the issue, and the subsequent commenter [sic] by supporters were never addressed," observes More Than Serving Tea blogger Kathy Khang.

The original offending image was accompanied by Warren joking on Facebook, "The typical attitude of Saddleback Staff as they start work each day."

Some Asian-Americans who apparently "like" the Lake Forest-based preacher's Facebook page gently reminded him of the atrocities and cultural genocide that has been laid at the feet of the Red Army. That is not what produced the apology, as you'll note here:

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In case you're as blind as I am:

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Khang's reaction to tha and supporters who vehemently defended their Pastor Rick:

Warren's defense (and that of his supporters) is one that I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING! It goes something like this:

- Don't you know this is a joke? This is funny. Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny.

- I didn't mean to offend you. BUT...Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny.

- Why are you attacking "fill in the blank with well-intentioned White person's name here"? Don't you know how many people said person's ministry and life's work has touched and brought to faith? Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny.

- If you are a Christian, show "fill in the blank with well-intentioned White person's name here" some grace. Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny.

- Don't be so politically-correct. Be a Christian first. Don't make this about race. Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny.

Khang then directs readers to "a thoughtful, educational post" on Engage the Pews, which is subtitled "Sam Tsang's preaching blog."

Of Warren's "It's a joke, people" explanation and the right on, Ricks from his followers, Tsang tapes into his first-hand knowledge of Saddleback Church and writes:

I'm writing this blog because I have a lot more cultural knowledge than Mr. Warren. I happened to be still teaching part-time for Hong Kong Baptist Theological Seminary, and I fly there at least twice a year. When I was a full-time faculty there, someone from the planning group of HK Saddleback had contacted me (I forgot his name by now but he's a nice bloke.) via Facebook to get my take. Here's my summary of a rather long-winded piece of advice for planting a Saddleback in HK, "If you do not know the cultural history, political climate, and ministerial context of HK, do not plant. If you plan on just having an English-speaking ministry serving the upper middle class expat community, do not plant. There're plenty of churches doing that. If you don't plan on having locally trained pastors on your staff that lead the ministry to Chinese, do not plant." The irony of all this is that shortly after the opening of the HK Saddleback, we have this Facebook update. This single update shows that Mr. Warren hardly has any idea of what the picture truly represents. Sadly, it also proves my original advice to be spot on. HK Saddleback website doesn't even have Chinese. It's like me coming to America to reach English-speakers with a Chinese website.

That obviously got Warren's attention, because he posted an apology in the comments to Tsang's blog:

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What's funny is, if you scroll past some of the comments from Asian-Americans who still do not believe Warren went far enough in his apology, you'll find some from Saddlebackers who say they initially did not get what the big deal was (just like Pastor Rick) but now they understand and are sorry (just like Pastor Rick).

Let he who casts the first tweet and all that.

Email: mcoker@ocweekly.com. Twitter: @MatthewTCoker. Follow OC Weekly on Twitter @ocweekly or on Facebook!


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tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart".

And pastor Rick warren is Married, so he looked upon his woman with lust in his heart. Therefore committing adultery with her in his heart.

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"I am not of this world, this is your world". - Jesus 

So what world are you from?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

The self-righteous missed them (the jokes) while the diciples were obviously giggling"? - Pastor Rick Warren (Christian Hypocrite).

Really, so you're saying that Jesus was a part time comedian on the side as well as an alien from another planet? What planet?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Duh? I got some news for pastor Rick Warren - JESUS WAS AN AGNOSTIC BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE TOLD HIS OWN DECIPLES. When he was walking in the streets on numerous occasions some of the people went up to him and asked them what he meant by some of  the things that hs said, They asked him: Master, What is meant by this of what you say and Jesus told them "It is not your time for you to know these things".

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

Do ya really tink that the invisable God is keeping track of Facebook? There's a whole lot of hypocracy on there as well as on the OC Weekly.

Hey China owns the USA by 14 Trillion $'s

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"Go forth, be fruitful and multiply". Spill your seed and conquer the earth

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"Have you ever noticed in the bible that when God wants a killing done that he always sends an angel along"?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"You have no idea how therapuetic it can be by merely killing everyone in the room". - Statement made by a 14 year Navy Seal to me. I will not reveal names because I don't have any.

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

JESUS LAUGHED! HA HA HA HA HA.

HE ALSO WEPT! BOO HOO HOO HOO HOO

YOU FIGURE IT OUT?

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"ALL THE PEOPLE THAT TEACH IN THE SYNAGOGUES (CHURCHES) AND ON THE STREETS ARE HYPOCRITES FOR THEY LIKE AND EVEN LOVE TO STAND IN THOSE VERY PLACES AND PRAY OUT LOUD IN ORDER TO GARNER ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES, I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, FOR THEY HAVE RECIEVED THIER REWARDS IN FULL". - JESUS CHRIST.

'WHO IS THIS GOD PERSON ANYWAY'? - I DON'T SEE HIM BECAUSE HE'S AN INVISABLE SPIRIT THAT CAN'T BE SEEN BY HUMAN EYES. YOU ARE A HUMAN AND YOU HAVE HUMAN EYES THEREFORE YOU CAN'T SEE HIM.

tongue_twister_for_t
tongue_twister_for_t topcommenter

"Don't you know this is a joke? This is funny. Get over yourself. Get a sense of humor. Christians can be funny".

AND I SUPPOSE THAT YOU THINK THAT THE CRUSADES WERE 'FUNNY'. - RIGHT?

5somewhere5
5somewhere5

Why anyone cares about anything Ms. Self-important Khang writes is beyond me. Go away.

OC Weekly
OC Weekly

A "comedy of prats"? Great twist of words!

JBinOC
JBinOC topcommenter

You know, this hasn't really been noted by anyone in the last 2,000 years or so, but did you know that at the Last Supper, Jesus grabbed the mike and said, 

"How's everybody doin' tonight??!!  I said, "HOW'S EVERYBODY DOIN' TONIGHT??!!"



And nah, I'm not just makin' that up to preserve my reputation among the contrived-guilt followers I have here at Navel Gazing.  


909Jeff
909Jeff

This is lame... More feigned indignation.

The fad of everything being offensive to someone marches on.

Kathy Khang... my heart weeps terribly for you. (Please note the sarcasm)

BruceMorgan
BruceMorgan

The great apology:  ... Jesus inserted several laugh lines - jokes - in the Sermon on the Mount. The self-righteous missed them all while the disciples were undoubtedly giggling.

I can get away with saying this, but them I'm an atheist. I can't believe that a "believer" can say the Scripture contains jokes.  But going back to the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5 for those of you who have forgotten)

Blessed are meek ---- like Hell, let's go kill somebody

Blessed are the peacemakers ---- Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. --- and a jokes won't hurt either

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. --- Jesus dude has to be joking here, right?

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. --- No way am I going to let some guy get two shots in.

Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. ---unless he has a "Will work for food" sign.


I guess you're right. That ole Jesus was a real cut-up. And if this is truly your belief, I must revert back to that great oxymoron -- Thank God I'm an atheist.

JBinOC
JBinOC topcommenter

"What's funny is, if you scroll past some of the comments from Asian-Americans who still do not believe Warren went far enough in his apology, you'll find some Saddlebackers who say they initially did not get what the big deal was (just like Pastor Rick) but now they understand and are sorry (just like Pastor Rick)."  



What a sleaze...preaching to fake disciples in the affluent zip codes of South County.  

(Don't be mad.  It's a joke, people!)  



Boo on God for re-routing him from China to California in 1979.  

Though I would like to be around when God calls on him to explain his Facebook post at the gates of heaven. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

GOOD EVENING JERUSALEM!!!!

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