Seal Beach Places 45-Day Freeze on E-Cig Shops

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Meg Strouse
Photo courtesy of Vape Goddess
Oh, Seal Beach. What are you doing?

Just a few days ago the Seal Beach City Council announced it's placing a 45-day freeze on e-cigarette shops in the area. The board voted unanimously that those darn vape pens are just still too mysterious, and that they need more time to study the issue. One board member expressed his concern to KCAL-TV Channel 9 reporter Melanie Woodrow, explaining that they feared the shops would start selling drug paraphernalia or use e-cigarettes for (big air quotes here) "illegal substances."

Wait...you mean people use legal objects for illegal purposes?

Luckily, the moratorium will not affect existing vape stores or gas stations and smokes shops that sell the necessary hardware. The city council is set to vote again near the end of the 45-day period, at which time they may be able to extend it further.

Yet in this same week, somewhat celebrity psychiatrist, Dr. Keith Ablow, released a study about the effectiveness of e-cigarettes in helping people quit. Although the study was sponsored by LOGIC, an e-cig company, (it's America, whaterya gonna do), Dr. Ablow found that 70 percent of his guinea pigs quit smoking real cigarettes after three months on the vape pens - and many quit even sooner than that. Non-smokers just seem to keep pulling the "we don't know enough card" despite the overwhelmingly positive results of e-cig studies so far.

Check out the press release for more details, and consider writing to Seal Beach City Council if vaping has worked for you.

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21 comments
Scott Kramer
Scott Kramer

While not one place that sells cigarettes is affected. Sounds like the tobacco companies are behind this.

Aaron Roach
Aaron Roach

Not a smoker, but I'm a geek and more than once I've almost bought an E-cig just because it's a gadget.

Ray Longoria
Ray Longoria

It is Seal Beach, After all, you have to walk your cat on a leash in this town.

Andrew Nava
Andrew Nava

might as well ban crack and meth smoking on main street in hb....fucking liberal republican pussies

Dàrth Pöwers
Dàrth Pöwers

Did some Leisure World residents wander into a city council meeting?

Andre Miller
Andre Miller

Big Tobacco talking.....read between the lines

James Creely
James Creely

just because 10,000 flies eat shit, and have hot hoes to model the shit doesn't make shit good.

Jay Lukes
Jay Lukes

Translation: How can we tax them?

VapeOn101
VapeOn101

Let's see what else, oh, the FDA is raising the amount of RADIATION allowed in your food imported from Japan due to Fukushima. 

Don't get me started on Monsanto.

We're on the brink of a WAR with Syria. I'd say Vaping is the least of our worries at this point.

VapeOn101
VapeOn101

alcohol, a perfectly legal substance isn't addictive and killing a significant number of people every year? Let's see, "secondhand drinking" kills so many people every year and still they drink and drive.

Nicotine is just as addictive as Caffeine and your lovely FDA allows Nicotine in your tomatoes. 

LosMortales
LosMortales

A freeze is good.

Nicotine is, perhaps, the most addictive drug. It is, certainly, the most addictive licit drug.

The latest study out of Virginia Tech shows that nicotine, itself, is equally as dangerous as the tar and other poisons in tobacco smoke.

http://www.wset.com/story/23087048/vt-researchers-question-safety-of-nicotine-patches

E-Cigarettes are just another way to make money off of nicotine junkies. Do not be deceived by the “safety” hype.

If you want to kick the nicotine monkey off your back, get “Stop Smoking and Lose Weight: A Buddhadharmically Enhanced Alchemical Transmutation Process,” by Tharpa Lodro

http://www.amazon.com/Stop-Smoking-Weight-Buddhadharmically-ebook/dp/B00E55R8F6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374761933&sr=1-1#


And just do it.

VapeOn101
VapeOn101

also, what e-cigarettes are they testing in this study, what is the origin of the liquids that they are testing, etc. You do have to be careful about where you are obtaining your liquids, because we all know the shitty juice is from china. 

I read your link @DoYourResearch, but have yet to see a real source for the study. Do you believe everything the government tells you?


DoYourResearch
DoYourResearch

@whateveryousayhttp://newsinfo.inquirer.net/434233/fda-warns-on-dangers-of-e-cigarettes A study not funded by an e-cig company found higher levels of iron, aluminum and nickel in e-cigarettes as opposed to tobbaco; comparable levels of some other substances, and lesser levels of other omissions. There is also still a significant second-hand exposure. While the effects may be less than or comparable to traditional cigarettes, the jury is still out on this relatively new technology. I don't think it's fair to beat up small-town Seal Beach for being cautious. I think e-cigs are probably still a good switch if you're already a tobacco smoker, but it's annoying when "non-smokers" pick up an e-cig and think there's no chance of any harm.

whateveryousay
whateveryousay topcommenter

The big question is the safety of e-cigs.  Are the chemicals used in e-cigs any safer than real cigs?

Any studies out there yet?

LPHastings
LPHastings

@DoYourResearch @whateveryousay Can we just look at the first paragraph of this article: "The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday warned the public against using electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), saying their smoke contained substances that might be harmful to one’s health."

What a completely arbitrary warning. Might be harmful? 

And they're calling propylene glycol “volatile organic substances". You can find that shit it a lot of processed foods at the grocery store. Food that the FDA has approved...and have actually classified as "an additive that is “generally recognized as safe” for use in food."



spencerj05
spencerj05

@whateveryousay Yes there are studies, including ones done by scientists that are NOT paid by companies that benefit from the results of the research.

http://www.tobacco.ucsf.edu/10-chemicals-identified-so-far-e-cig-vapor-are-california-prop-65-list-carcinogens-and-reproductive

"The following compounds that are on the Proposition 65 list have already been identified in mainstream or secondhand (sidestream) e-cigarette vapor:

Acetaldehyde (MS)
Benzene (SS)
Cadmium (MS)
Formaldehyde (MS,SS)
Isoprene (SS)
Lead (MS)
Nickel (MS)
Nicotine (MS, SS)
N-Nitrosonornicotine (MS, SS)
Toluene (MS, SS)

As the two papers linked above note, there are other toxic chemicals in the vapor as well as ultrafine particles, that likely have cardiovascular effects.

E-cigarettes do not deliver "pure nicotine" and "harmless water vapor.""

LPHastings
LPHastings

@whateveryousay Yes there are a handful of studies. For one thing, e-liquid only has 4 or 5 ingredients, whereas regular cigarettes have thousands. You don't need a study to see that. E-liquid is just propylene glycol or vegetable glycol, nicotine, and flavoring. Cigarettes have tar and formaldehyde :/

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