Horror of Horrors: OC's Two Worst Pedophile Priests Were Pals

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We have long covered the destruction wrought by Eleuterio Ramos, the worst-ever pedophile priest in the history of the Diocese of Orange. But we've only occasionally discussed the second-worst: Siegfried Widera, who molested at least nine children and most likely many more.

And now, a horrifying prospect has emerged: Widera and Ramos probably molested together, or at the very least coordinated, because not only did they know of each other, but they were good friends.

I first became aware of this in a comment left on my latest exposé of former Bishop Tod D. Brown, left by an eyewitness who saw this between 1982 and 1984.


"They used to sit with my friends' grandparents that ran the sausage booth and get drunk," at St. Justin Martyr in Anaheim, according to the commenter. "Even after Widera 'was removed' from St. Justin, he still was there for special events and shit just to rape kids after school. No one stopped Widera from abusing."

After reading this, I talked to long-timers at St. Justin Martyr, who remember Ramos occasionally giving Mass and hanging out with the altar boys alongside Widera. No Ramos or Widera victim has ever claimed that the two of them abused them, but it is known that Ramos would frequently invite other people to rape children while Ramos took photos.

If anyone has any further information on this disturbing time in OC Catholic history, do let me know. In the meanwhile: heckuva job, Brownie!

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Minhpd AnNam Mít
Minhpd AnNam Mít

they have a sub-gangs here in SoCal/ LA & SD, some priests are just gays, some priests like young boys , some just like bathhouses/sexclubs .. they all know one another and habits . and yes they do protect one another.. sadly Gustavo, work your magic. Mahoney is the "queen mother", ask around for those who know the nickname

Madilyns Cooking
Madilyns Cooking

as a former catholic, who now has children... how am i supposed to ever go back? what message would that give my kids?

Sherry Lawler Sparks
Sherry Lawler Sparks

guess they didn't read Matthew 18:6 "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Eddie_Patino
Eddie_Patino

Holy Crap! This is the same scumbag that you wrote about in your book Orange County: A personal history. Looks like there is more info to add to that chapter!

Anonymous
Anonymous

You might want to check with Diocese of Orange General Counsel Maria Schinderle about this subject since Widera was at one time assigned to St. Edward's in Dana Point, CA where Schinderle is a Eucharist minister, whose children also attended St. Edward's.  The famous former Catholic priest John Lenihan was also the pastor of St. Edward's but do not remember if Widera and Ramos were present at St. Ed's during this time. 

paullucas714
paullucas714 topcommenter

Holy Shit??!! Have any of these people that raped while he took photos been arrested?

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