Calvary Chapel to Screen Anti-Obama Docu 2016: Obama's America Tomorrow, Spits on Separation of Church and State

You gotta hand it to Calvary Chapel. They have long claimed that they're above worldly matters, that they only care about the End Times and Rapture--and that's why they're more than happy to stick their nose into worldly affairs, whether it's school districts wanting to issue domestic-partner benefits to their employees, or Hollywood's many, many films. So when it comes to IRS codes prohibiting churches from taking a stand on political issues, not only will Chuck Smith thumb his nose at said laws, he'll pick a nugget, fling it at the government, then pick his schnozz again and smear some snot at it.

That explains why tomorrow, Big Calvary will screen the laughable "documentary," 2016: Obama's America.

And this shows how hypocritical Chuckie and his crew are. They rail about family values, about the sanctity of marriage and such--but the film's maker, conservative blowhard Dinesh D'Souza, is currently persona non grata in evangelical circles because he's already shacking up with a gal 20 years his junior despite having not yet separated from his wife. But, hey: hypocrisy and Calvary Chapel go together like Papa Chuck and Hawaiian shirts.

Calvary has already screened the flick, leading to an article in the Hollywood Reporter last month questioning whether Calvary could do this without facing government sanctions. Calvary doesn't care--but if it was the Unitarian-Universalists endorsing some Green Party candidate? You know they'd cry foul to the very Caesar they seek to dismantle. Fun times@

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je_eighth
je_eighth

  The Real Morgan Edwards

          by George Wilson

     In 1995, in a 24-page booklet on 18th century pastor Morgan Edwards, evangelist John Bray claimed that Edwards taught a pretrib rapture in his 1788 book titled "Two Academical Exercises...."
     Those echoing Bray include Thomas Ice who wrote "Morgan Edwards: Another Pre-Darby Rapturist." Edwards' 1788 work can be found on the internet.
     In order to claim that Edwards held to pretrib, candidates for the I-can-find-pretrib-earlier-in-church-history-than-you-can medal - including Bray, Ice, LaHaye, Frank Marotta etc. - have intentionally covered up Edwards' "historicism," his belief that the tribulation had already been going on for hundreds of years. (How can anyone in the tribulation go back in time and look for a pretrib rapture?)
     Here's proof of Edwards' historicism and its companion "day-year" theory which can view the 1260 tribulation "days" as "years."
     On p. 14 Edwards described the Ottoman Empire (which was then already 400 years old) as the Rev. 13:11 "beast." On p. 20 he defined "Antichrist" as the already 1000-year-old "popery" and the "succession of persons" known as "Popes" - his other Rev. 13 "beast." He necessarily viewed Rev. 13's 1260-day period as 1260 literal years in order to provide enough time for his two "beasts."
     On p. 19, while discussing "the ministry of the witnesses" of Rev. 11, he allotted "about 204 years" for their "years to perform" - years impossible to fit into a 3.5-year period!
     What about Edwards' rapture? On pp. 21-23 he wrote about "the appearing of the son of man in the clouds, coming to raise the dead saints and change the living, and to catch them up to himself....The signs of Christ's appearing in the clouds will be extraordinary 'wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes and famines,' &. (Matth. xxiv. 6-8.)....The signs of his coming, in the heavens will be 'the trump of God [I Thess. 4:16], vapor and smoke, which will darken the sun and moon [Matt. 24:29],'...and also cause those meteors called 'falling stars'....
     Right after his combined rapture/advent (!), Edwards said: "And therefore, now, Antichrist...will...counterfeit the preceding wonders in heaven...causing 'fire to come down from heaven'....And that godhead he will now assume, after killing the two witnesses....Now the great persecution of the Jews will begin...for time, times, and half a time...."
     Thomas Ice's article on Edwards (see first par. above) quoted only the first 27 words in the above quotation, ending with "to himself." This sort of unethical revisionism is constantly employed by many pretrib defenders.
     Not only had most of Edwards' historicist tribulation occurred before his combined rapture/advent, but his Antichrist kept raging for 3.5 years even after the Matt. 24 signs! No wonder his tutor advised him to correct his thesis!
     To read Edwards' complete work, Google "[PDF] Two Academical Exercises...www.breadoflifebiblestudy.com."
     For more info on Edwards, Google "McPherson Page" (click on a reproduction of "Cover-Ups"). Also Google "Deceiving and Being Deceived" by historian Dave MacPherson.

je_eighth
je_eighth

  Pretrib Rapture Pride

                  by Bruce Rockwell

     Pretrib rapture promoters like Thomas Ice give the impression they know more than the early Church Fathers, the Reformers, the greatest Greek New Testament scholars including those who produced the KJV Bible, the founders of their favorite Bible schools, and even their own mentors!
     Ice's mentor, Dallas Sem. president John Walvoord, couldn't find anyone holding to pretrib before 1830 - and Walvoord called John Darby and his Brethren followers "the early pretribulationists" (RQ, pp. 160-62). Ice belittles Walvoord and claims that several pre-1830 persons, including "Pseudo-Ephraem" and a "Rev. Morgan Edwards," taught a pretrib rapture. Even though the first one viewed Antichrist's arrival as the only "imminent" event, Ice (and Grant Jeffrey) audaciously claim he expected an "imminent" pretrib rapture! And Ice (and John Bray) have covered up Edwards' historicism which made a pretrib rapture impossible! Google historian Dave MacPherson's "Deceiving and Being Deceived" for documentation on these and similar historical distortions.
     The same pretrib defenders, when combing ancient books, deviously read "pretrib" into phrases like "before Armageddon," "before the final conflagration," and "escape all these things"!
     BTW, the KJV translators' other writings found in London's famed British Library (where MacPherson has researched) don't have even a hint of pretrib rapturism. Is it possible that Ice etc. have found pretrib "proof" in the KJV that its translators never found?
     Pretrib merchandisers like Ice claim that nothing is better pretrib proof than Rev. 3:10. They also cover up "Famous Rapture Watchers" (on Google) which shows how the greatest Greek NT scholars of all time interpreted it.
     Pretrib didn't flourish in America much before the 1909 Scofield Bible which has pretribby "explanatory notes" in its margins. Not seen in the margins was jailed forger Scofield's criminal record throughout his life that David Lutzweiler has documented in his recent book "The Praise of Folly" which is available online.
     Biola University's doctrinal statement says Christ's return is "premillennial" and "before the Tribulation." Although universities stand for "academic freedom," Biola has added these narrow, restrictive phrases - non-essentials the founders purposely didn't include in their original doctrinal statement when Biola was just a small Bible institute! And other Christian schools have also belittled their founders.
     Ice, BTW, has a "Ph.D" issued by a tiny Texas school that wasn't authorized to issue degrees! Ice now says that he's working on another "Ph.D" via the University of Wales in Britain. For light on the degrees of Ice's scholarliness, Google "Bogus degree scandal prompts calls to wind up University of Wales," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," "be careful in polemics - Peripatetic Learning," and "Walvoord Melts Ice." Also Google "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)" - featured by media luminary Joe Ortiz on his Jan. 30, 2013 "End Times Passover" blog.
     Other fascinating Google articles include "The Unoriginal John Darby," "X-raying Margaret," "Edward Irving in Unnerving," "Pretrib Rapture Politics," "Pretrib Rapture Secrets," "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy," and "Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism" - most from the author of "The Rapture Plot," the most accurate documentation on pretrib rapture history.
     Can anyone guess who the last proud pretrib rapture holdout will be?
(Postscript: For another jolt or two Google "The Background Obama Can't Cover Up.")

[Saw the preceding on the fascinating net. Chuck is another "rapture" con man.]



TaxReligion
TaxReligion

 @909Jeff The fact that my screen name is "TaxReligion" should have been your first clue that I am well aware of IRC violations on both sides of the blurred isle. Guilty of looking at the flip side of the coin in how Chuck Smith is asking his flock to vote Romney by playing this drivel. 

"My money is that your one of those whacky atheists affiliated with Bruce Gleasons group."...Honestly, no idea who this person or group was until you posted it. Thanks for the education.

Your money would have been better placed thinking that i'm at the forefront of reigning in these leper messiahs and their political pontificating from the pulpit...but you don't need to know who I am.

Jeff in the 909.....nice.

Truthforthemasses
Truthforthemasses

Ageofknowledge...was waiting for your reply to TaxReligion.....?

ageofknowledge
ageofknowledge

I disagree. The anti-religious in today's society are becoming facist in their thinking. That's the real problem... the mentality of people who write articles like these.

TaxReligeon
TaxReligeon

Good job Chuckles, show your minions a slanted anti Obama docu and tell them to vote for Mitt the Mormon; you know, the church that states that they are the only true church in the world and that Jesus is the brother of Satan. 

Let's posit that God and Jesus are real, you just sent your entire flock to hell!

Mitchell_Young
Mitchell_Young

Hey, isn't that documentary by an 'Asian-American"?

voxpopuli
voxpopuli

It’s O.K. for ‘leftists’ church, - Obama’s Reverend Wright, in the end it balances out.

909Jeff
909Jeff

REV Jesse Jackson... REV Al Sharpton... REV Jeremiah Wright... MINISTER Farrakhan...

 

Any of these people sound familiar?

 

 

TaxReligion
TaxReligion

 @ageofknowledge You disagree, ok; please cite specifics as to the stance of Joseph Smith and the Mormon Church and their beliefs on Jesus and how they are the one true church and then tell me how this isn't in conflict with Christianity and the King James Bible please.

Just because I don't agree with Greg Laurie, Chuck Smith and their ilk, doesn't mean that I or any one else is "anti-religious".

So you like Paul and Jan Crouch then?

Calvary is a caricature of its self and the only reason chuckles is doing this is because of money.

Greater good will prevail on Tuesday when Obama defeats Bishop Satan!

BillxT
BillxT topcommenter

@Mitchell_Young No group has a monopoly on idiots. As our discussions and the current presidential campaign illustrate, the hard part is coming to a consensus who's the idiot.

Mitchell_Young
Mitchell_Young

 @909Jeff Or Klavito's beloved Unitarian Universalists. They are always messing in political issues like immigration as is, come to think of it, his (and my) former Church, the Whore of Babylon itself. (I kid of course, about the Whore of Babylon)

ageofknowledge
ageofknowledge

You'll never hear OCWeekly or the leftist media complain when the left engages in the behavior they don't like the right to engage in. The hypocrisy is obvious. If they had a Sharpton, Wright, Farrakhan SUMMIT inside the AME, it would be cosigned by the left as "progressive" and "forward thinking."

909Jeff
909Jeff

@TaxReligion @ageofknowledge Since Mormonism is not pertinent to the conversation the fact that your name is "tax religion" and your ranting about Mormons paints a clear enough picture. My money is that your one of those whacky atheists affiliated with Bruce Gleasons group. The argument is that chuckles and his minions are allegedly violating the irc by taking a political position. The problem is liberal churches have been doing it for years.... William "philanderer" Clinton campaigned at the first AME church in LA tirelessly... Talk about blurring the lines!

TaxReligion
TaxReligion

 @ageofknowledge  @TaxReligion Again, you fail to cite any specifics in response to a direct question; the best you an do is tell me that I have a screw loose...i'm impressed by your pithy response.

So then, one can assume that you are either LDS or know nothing about the Mormon church then.

Either way, the facts remain; the Mormon church believes that they are the only true church in the world and that Jesus is the brother of Satan; how misguided young elders are. If you are LDS, i will expect another sophomoric, grade school response. However, if you are a Christian, you at least owe it to yourself to answer the question...even if you chose to remain silent.

God bless you Ageofknowledge.

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