Octomom Nadya Suleman Accuser Gina M. Bryson Makes Public Plea for Octuplets

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A Rossmoor woman who cared for at least some of Nadya Suleman's 14 children in La Habra is backing up two former caregivers whose allegations of child neglect and other serious accusations against the so-called Octomom led to investigations by police and Child Protective Services (CPS).

Gina M. Bryson says she knows of what she speaks, claiming to be the informant who contacted the La Habra Police Department about horrid conditions in Octomom's former Madonna Lane home and the poor quality of care for the children. That probe is what led investigators to the two nannies, who Suleman has countered were not nannies but part-time volunteers.

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Bryson, who is married with four children, says she met Suleman through a friend and first visited the octuplets to watch over them in November 2009, when they were 10 months old. Bryson concedes she was kicked out after several hours for being too "bossy," complaining about the children's living conditions and quality of care.

Though Bryson says she thought daily about the children, she apparently did not see them against until May 2010, when she claims Suleman called her back to care for the babes, something Bryson says would continue to do more than once. Suleman never offered to pay for the care, and Bryson says she never asked for money. Bryson says at one point Suleman talked of splitting custody of the babies, having Bryson watch the children for days while Suleman pursued her porn career.

However, last month, Bryson said she could no longer take the squalor the children were subjected to. She says she called La Habra police and sparked the investigation that was handed over to the Orange County District Attorney's office (OCDA), which cited lack of evidence in declining to prosecute.

KCBS/Channel 2's CBS2 News in Los Angeles was preparing to air a long, investigative report based the nannies' allegations, Bryson claims, when the OCDA decision took the air out of the broadcast. And the airtime. Bryson says she sat with reporter Stacey Butler for four hours but that only a small portion of the interview was broadcast. The final version did include Bryson expressing disappointment in the OCDA decision.  

The Weekly asked Bryson to react to what came next: Suleman's on-camera interview where she claimed to be hiring a lawyer to sue her accusers for slander. Bryson believes Octomom obliquely referred to her as a stalker out to make money off Suleman's celebrity. So, we asked Bryson to take select Suleman quotes one by one:

SULEMAN: She hired a lawyer "to go against them for slander and all the false allegations against me and their elder children."

BRYSON: "Well, first off slander means something is untrue and I do wish for the children's sake it were not. I truly hope she finds an attorney naive enough to take her case as I would love nothing more than to go into a court of law as I would welcome the opportunity to have Nadya questioned under oath. The other benefit would be the transcripts would be sealed considering it is about minors, Nadya would not be able to profit from it!" 

SULEMAN: "These were not nannies; they were never former nannies. They were just occasional volunteers and/or babysitters that would just come in ..."

BRYSON: "The two nannies on Stacy Butler's interview were indeed paid nannies and if they wanted to make money they would have went to a rag magazine that paid them . . . not to Child Protective Services and the La Habra Police. It should also be mentioned that those interviews were done over five months ago and during a period I was not involved with the children. I didn't learn of what they contained until a few weeks ago, and shortly after is when I went to the police and CPS with my own evidence and concerns. As for myself, I was never paid and I know I spent more one-on-one time with each individual baby in the nine off and on months I took care of them than she did in the three and half years she has had them."

SULEMAN: "They were plotting for years--unbeknownst to me--to make money."

BRYSON: "Plotting for years? No, she is confused as usual. They were witnessing not plotting, and the more this is broadcast the more nannies/witnesses will see it and come forward because there is strength in numbers. The nannies all know how horrible it is there but are too intimidated because they signed a confidentiality agreement and because some are undocumented workers."

SULEMAN: "To actually accuse any of us--me, my children, my older children ... of any type of abuse--that's like the lowest blow you can go, with sexual abuse. ... I worked with children who have been molested and abused for years in school, working towards my counseling degree. That allegation is the sickest, sickest you can go."

BRYSON: :First, there is zero track record or any proof of Nadya working with children, and if she actually ever even went to school and learned ANYTHING she should realize that not protecting your children and allowing them to be the tortured and treated as mere play things and punching bags for the older children that you are allowing ALL of the children a lifetime of emotional scars is the sickest, sickest you can go!"

Bryson wanted to make clear the Weekly, "Please remember just because the district attorney sent the case back for lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen or unfortunately isn't happening." She added that her specific allegations that contributed to the police investigation can be found in an open letter she posted on NadyaSulemanForum.

Following a strict set of guidelines that discourage name calling
, the forum and its members for years have been monitoring what's been going on at the La Habra home, how the children are treated and other matters of concern. Bryson's letter on the forum, which better than anything I've read or seen explains her passion for protecting the octuplets, follows on the next page . . .

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stevie_girl
stevie_girl

Another example of the forum stupidity! You all are obsessed with Gina r and the type of porn she does. You even call her butt fuck queen BFQ. So butfuck using the name is mocking you idiots. But, you are all so lacking in neurons that you post this!

Re: Silly posts and allegations elsewhere

by deepbluezz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:28 pm

No one can make you look ignorant better than your own self.

What amazes me about Butfu*k is their ability to sum up their own self worth, what they stand for and lack of education in a cyber name... truly a gift.

butfuck
butfuck

I'm fed up with the mocking and snarking and evil crap that comes out of the forum, and from myself because of it. DDD is absolutely right about all of you. You claim to be nice people and have rules about never attacking anyone on the forum, but you are nothing but haters who attack a mentally ill woman, and even her kids. If I read one more thing about how the older kids will end up in jail or the audie home or how mean one of the twins is, I will report you all for cyberstalking and maligning innocent children.

And if I read one more comment about me being a drunk or having had my license taken away, then the free forum people will get the letter from my attorney that I am going over today. I don't know who you have me confused with, but I know what you are doing is wrong in so many ways it's not funny any more. And there is no winning here. There is just a lot of crap and random hate. And in many ways I have been guilty of it too. I'm not proud of that.

You all seem to like each other and agree about what a horrible person Nadya is and I am, so just go your merry way being crappy people who like to feel better about themselves by disparaging others. It seems to suit you.

But if I get wind of one more lie about me to make me look like some horrible person, you will not have a forum anymore. I assure you of that.

And I picked "butfuck" for the simple reason that I love watching you all have to use it in your posts since it seems so below you.

I'm 66 years old and this is just too beneath me. I don't mind having differences of opinions and calling people out and discussing the heck out things, but you guys are just mean and evil. You really need to take a closer look in the mirror.

I called a good friend who has worked as my lawyer, and we started to talk about how this "attacking" is bordering on criminal. He offered to defend me for free, so if you want to go that route, then be prepared for retaliation. All you guys do is attack people and wish each other happy birthday.

I could go on, because I'm so disgusted by all of this, but that's all folks. I'm too old and I've accomplished too much in my life to associate with this crap.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

Lovely. That is why I miss all of you freaks so much. Val with her Psuedo-intellect. Grandmab pretending to be kind and caring and actually is the most vile person in the world. She just spews hatred and contaminates all around her. The other 10 should examine themselves and ask why they stay on a hate site!

UTellEm
UTellEm

Butfuck's name sez it all.

grandmabutscrew
grandmabutscrew

I wish people wouldn't fight on comment sections.  There is a really important message that is trying to get out there, but with all this fighting I don't think it's being accomplish. 

Maybe if the 12 uninformed members of the "we hate Nadya" forum, but we pretend we do it for the kids, would practice more butt sex, i think they would be happier and not have to be on a forum 24/7  that makes  fun of a sick  person. 

schmeckelhead
schmeckelhead

@butfuck

Please get help for your anger issues, butfuck, or your bitterness will destroy you. You must be in a lot of pain, and very isolated if your only means of human interaction is harrassing people online and monopolizing bulletin boards. Creating multiple sock puppets and having conversations with yourself must be your only option for self expression, as your hostility drives every one away. After reading the posts below, it's completely understandable why you were banned from internet forums. If you're having trouble with interpersonal relationships, in real life or online, you might want to consier your tendency to argue endlessly and attack people who disagree with you. For your own sake, get some counseling.

butfuck
butfuck

Notes from the Forum of the "Misinforumed"

 Breaking news. Was that a cigarette or car keys?.

Re: January Tweets: Jubilations of a Janiform Jezebel Jackho

by Bluebonnet » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:49 am

http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/nady ... 7205/44383

Just happened to run across this photo from 2009. I think this is the one where we were debating whether that was a cigarette or car keys in her hand.

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 Well, personally, I think they look like car keys, but WTF? Who debates this stuff and then makes fun of octomom for being on a debate site where she actually makes money? If you think she is crazy, please get out your hand mirrors and take a look at crazy.

butfuck
butfuck

I'm pretty sure that this would be considered stalking by the police. But then you are all such nice people they would probably let it go. I would like to know....are you actually following her? because I'd get a bodyguard too.

 Maybe if you actually do something to help kids you will change things for abused children. Think about it. I'm sure you will get to me. 

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Postby GEE » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:59 pm
Nads made an appearance at Amerah's cheerleading practice yesterday (Sunday). She got there late and was accompanied by her Bodyguard (thats what Angela calls him--big & bald guy) and 2 of the girls. Cheerleading practice was from noon-10pm!! CRAZY!!
From what I hear, the girls looked like orphans and one was wearing the same exact Hello Kitty boots and some were wondering if her poor foot had grown since she has had those shoes for awhile. :(

Octo said to a parent, she was sorry that she couldn't be there the first night (guessing Thurs night-because that's when they have to be there) and Amerah can just stay with you, right? :(

That's all I have for now....

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Re: Octo makes a Cheerleading appearance

Postby lulu » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:10 pm
So is this bodyguard volunteering for duty because how in the heck could she afford a body guard if she can't afford food and utilities?

read question. . .Why does she need a body guard? LOL

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Re: Octo makes a Cheerleading appearance

Postby Tisha » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:11 pm
I thought she changed schools?

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Re: Octo makes a Cheerleading appearance

Postby lulu » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:12 pm

    Tisha wrote:I thought she changed schools?




I'm pretty sure the cheerleading is outside of school.

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Re: Octo makes a Cheerleading appearance

Postby GEE » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:16 pm

    lulu wrote:

        Tisha wrote:I thought she changed schools?




    I'm pretty sure the cheerleading is outside of school.



Yep, cheerleading is not associated with the school.

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Re: Octo makes a Cheerleading appearance

Postby GAgal » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:22 pm
:roll: Maybe Bubba Bodyguard is also her chauffeur. 8-) You know, since Romeo, Romeo moved on... :roll:
"The above is just my speculation...take it with a grain of salt, if you wish!"

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Postby Tisha » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:30 pm
Oh ok... Thanks

I'm sure octo was dressed inappropriately with her jugs swinging around. :roll:

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strawberrysundae
strawberrysundae

United we stand, divided we fall. 

 Unless.. we've fallen and can't get up because we're too drunk, so all we can do is rant and rave at invisible  monsters.


butfuck
butfuck

Encryption! Really? Who did you hire or know to help you do that? The God particle people? Well, good luck with that.


You are a bunch of old hags with grudges and you don't know the first thing about anything. 

You want to throw down with me? Seriously? Go get a few advanced degrees and teach yourself a thing or two about computers and then we can talk, and in the mean time, if I feel like you have written anything worthy of posting here to expose how moronic you are, I will post it. Oh so sad if Matt thinks you are FOS, fighting the good fight and all that and rescuing the 14 hostages. Go actually help a child for a change of pace.

 It must be so killing to know that the other, what 5? 6? forum or ex-forum members read your crap here and you just look stupid.

 You want to have a go with me? Then tell me what the hell you want to talk about and why you want to talk about it and defend what you have to say. "Use your words and your inside voice."

The word moron doesn't do you justice. 


butfuck
butfuck

Re: Little things I'm grateful for

Postby GrandmaB » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:13 pm
I'm thankful for today. Because today I have my health, my husband, my friends, and my family. And I have all the caring people here on the forum.

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Sorry, I had to stop vomiting before adding to this because "all the caring people" ever do is trash a mentally ill person on a stupid forum with probably 12 members by now.

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Re: Little things I'm grateful for

Unread postby gjones » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:43 pm
I am grateful I am not a man that has to pick up the toilet seat to pee. I cleaned toilets today and they all looked clean until , :(YUCK.. Yes, I do have way more important thing to be grateful for but I acknowledge those daily. I thought I would share the less significant. Happy 2013 to EVERYONE!!!

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I think she meant less insignificant. You're cleaning toilet seats and you hate Octomom because you don't get enough government money? Am I right? And Octo isn't grateful enough for you? You are cleaning toilets. No wonder you are so mean.

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Re: Little things I'm grateful for

Unread postby Valkyre » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:01 pm
I'm grateful that for $7.47 I got 11 reach dental floss and the Hunger Games DVD. I *love* when coupons work out!

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Once again Valcrap is posting stuff to make money off of couponing. Way to go Valcrap. You're a real entreprenuer.



Go be nice to real children you can help, a-holes. Oh, I'm sorry, I meant "filthy pigs."

butfuck
butfuck


latest on the oh so polite forum posts....

" kerry214 wrote:MissE,
I don't think it's a matter of some members on the board not feeling
that GinaR is sincere enough. It's my opinion that most of us cannot
comprehend how GinaR who has witnessed the abuse, the filth and
unbelievable neglect of all 14 kids, condones & supports this
behavior. She does this by just being present.MissE,
don't forget GinaR had a sit down lunch with our Hopeflys. In that
meeting GinaR told Hope about the kids being filthy most of the time,
verbalizing on Octo's crazy behavior, her treatment of GinaR daughter,
screaming at her because she fed & bathed the kids without her
permission. She also ratted out the entire lunacy of Ed. Even hinted at a
perhaps sexual abuse issue. Related the story of the Christmas where
the Tups needing clothes so badly, GinaR asked for their sizes, Octo
just wanted the money. Kids could do without clothes. Let
me re-tell a personal encounter via e-mail I've had with GinaR. I had
e-mailed her business contact site, taking her to task about dragging
the Tup's to a beach for the sole purpose of a photo-op. This was the
one where the Tup's where forced to walk on hot concrete & sand
barefoot, while the older kids had shoes. In order to cover for the
Filthy Pig, GinaR said the Tup's had shoes but they kept taking them
off. A LIE. How do I know it's a lie. Because at the time of the
photo-op the Tups where a little over 2yrs. We have since found out via
"Our Gina" that the first pair of shoes the Tup's had, were purchased
when they were 3, purchased by her. It was also the 1st time the Tups
were ever in a store, let alone a shoe store.If
I find her to be less then sincere, I hope you'll understand. If she
"OUTS" the Filthy Pig tomorrow, I'll still find her to be a bottom
feeder, who will involve herself in the sleaziest of behavior to make a
buck. If innocent children are harmed in the process, that just
collateral damage to Gina Rodriguez.
Your
still entitled to your opinion, you have a right to express it. But,
sometimes it helps to get more into the rationale of why some of us
mistrusts everyone who associate with Nadya Suleman. Because "Birds of a
feather, do flock together".

Gina Bryson reply:

GREAT re-iterating and I must re-iterate my conversation with GinaR where she told me much of the same that was said at the lunch with Hopeflys and then even more...she is the one that told me the Nadya was a alcoholic and on drugs...that she worried for the kids...she also told me the Christmas clothes story...but she further admitted she she just need the kids dressed nice for a photo-op....Let's just say I think that if the tragedy in CT had any impact on her that when instead of tweeting she should have picked up the phone and contacted the proper authorities because she could single handily save 14 children with one phone call.



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Definitely a bunch or non-attackers. And once again Gina Bryson is pretending that she knows how to report child abuse. That's a hoot.

Keep it up guys! Soon you'll have booted out anyone who disagrees with you and you can trash a human being  - I'm sorry, make that a "filthy pig" - all you want to all day long and accomplish nothing. You're really on a roll.


My next post will be about how grateful everyone on the forum is.

They are really cracking down on security on the secret forum, so getting this info out there is hard....not.

butfuck
butfuck

Valcraps latest post on the oh so nice forum....

"Since we read so much
negative stuff here and other places, I thought I'd start a thread on
the little things I/We are grateful for.I'm
grateful that I saved over 60 bucks on groceries and got FREE items
with couponing. The husband or I can't eat them, but there's sure to be a
soup kitchen, church food bank, etc. that would be very pleased to get
these items! I was tickled for the freebies! I got more Martha White's
muffin mixes, and 2 bags of organic stuffing (which runs a whopping 6-7
bucks a bag normally!). I'm sure someone will enjoy them.  It makes me smile.Now
that I've figured out how to get the freebies, I intend to get more and
make a nice basket for some group that gives food to the food insecure."

I'm not sure what "organic stuffing" is or who the "food insecure" people are, but I know Valcrap makes money running her forum and makes even more pushing coupons. Her sincerity makes me gag. Happy new year. 

butfuck
butfuck

"I've learned, while living on this planet, that PERSPECTIVE is
everything! And what you focus on will expand and fill your life. I try
ALL the time to see the good, adjust to the bad, and keep my head in a
happy place. If
you focus on the bad, that is all you see. It will fill your life, and
taint every day with darkness. It will put shadows and threat around
every corner, and put you in fight or flight mode daily. I choose to
focus on the GOOD, to fill my life with happiness, light and love, and
that goodness in people I see every day. So it colors my life with the
rich pallet of laughter, joy and contentment. I much prefer the latter
than the former. Life is all a matter of perspective. I prefer to keep
mine positive."

 That's why I run a h8ters forum. I'm just miss positivity.

butfuck
butfuck

Naval gazing - this site couldn't be more appropriately named.


The latest news on the forum is Gina Bryson is complaining that Gina Rodruquez hasn't reported octomom to CPS and that if she did, she could have saved 14 children. 

Pot - kettle....Kettle - pot. You report too late and it endangers the children as much as not reporting at all. A mandated too late reporter should really keep her insults to herself.

wastedTime
wastedTime

Interesting fact about the lovely, oh so sweet forum...they really REALLY aren't allowed to trash anyone any more, but the administrators will private message you all the snark you want. Nice way to follow your own rules.

wastedTime
wastedTime

You may be right. Nothing would surprise me at this point, so I agree to disagree. I have no beef with you, and actually, it's nice to just be able to have a discussion without worrying about someone telling me to be nice while being an asshole. On the secret forum, you are only allowed to agree with Admin, and nothing is ever really discussed at any length unless you agree with everyone, at which point, they will discuss it to death and join hands and sing "Kumbyah (sp?)  I think I remember you saying rehab was the next money maker, and you were absolutely right. I certainly didn't disagree with you about that.

We will see. It's just nice to be able to hash things out without some arbitrary rules about never "attacking" people. It's never been attacking to me. It's always about getting to the truth and just exchanging views. I can take as good as I give.

Night night.

Hope this didn't post twice.

wastedTime
wastedTime

Sorry, I live here on planet Earth where GinaB doesn't have a chance in hell of ever getting those kids. If they ever are taken away, and I doubt that will happen unless Octomom OD's and dies or starts walking around in a fog while naked repeatedly even during her rehab stays  (consider the saga of Brett Mueller and her 19 rehab visits and that she still has custody of her kids unless she is in rehab and gives them to Charlie's other ex-wife)  they will be split up into little parcels of maybe two and sent off to various foster families, and if you don't like octomom, well, let's just say most foster parents are in it for the money, so it's a crap shoot as to which will be the worse home to live in. She'll never willingly give them up. She's made way too much money off of them and would be cast into not only obscurity, but become the biggest evildoer  this side of Cruela Deville if she did. If you think she will get tired of them and give them away, then you haven't considered the fact that lots of people around her are still very in to this making money thing and won't allow it, and as long as they can prop her up and get her in the "media" they will.

Just curious, but do you think CPS and the court system are going to change all the rules because there are 14 kids and there is someone who obviously wants them who also obviously hates their mother and is posting on some anti-octo forum about trying to send her to jail? Someone I'm sure Octo would refuse to send them to? That Octo will just be tired and self-absorbed and give them away? The only reason anyone even knows who she is are the kids. She will die before they get taken, or worse. Who is the judge who would agree to just giving them to the willy nilly mandated reporter who does nothing but post about what a fool octomom is on some laughable forum? Do you seriously believe there is a lawyer not willing to defend Octo and make Gina look like a total asshole in the process? Have you ever worked in social services or the court system?

I kinda hope you don't respond, because we seem to be similar in that we think we have points and want to make them, but where the hell are you coming up with your theories about the foster care system and them giving the kids to Gina because Octo is self-absorbed and tired? It will never happen unless Nads dies and leaves it in her will to do so, and I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. Or she dies and gives them to her parents who give them to Gina because they are tired and not self-absorbded. But Octo giving her meal ticket, and her entourage's meal ticket away? Because she is tired of them? Surely, you jest.

wastedTime
wastedTime

I can assure you, CPS is no longer interested in Gina. No doubt she was well intentioned, but she had information that if submitted in a timely fashion, and without looking like she wanted to steal those kids and has always hated their mother, would have resulted in Nads as least having them temporarily removed. She went about it wrong, and no real mandated reporter screws up like her, so why pretend she is one?. You are mandated, or you are not. You return a child to an abusive home or you don't, and I have no sympathy for the former. I've know about too many children who died while someone waited. Abuse is abuse.

If anyone could have helped those kids, it was Gina, and God knows she is the best thing that ever happened to them, but it doesn't change that fact that now she is banned from their lives, she is posting on an anti-octomom forum and looks to CPS like any other adult who is mad at another adult while claiming to want to help the children. Plus, by the time she was reported, all octomom had to do was check herself into rehab to negate everything she was being accuse of. CPS loves parents who admit their problem and go for help on their own without any intervention from them. Gina walked right into that trap by waiting. 

 If you think this is mean on my part, then so be it. It's how it works. And it's how it works every time. If you want to take children away from their parents, you better have all your ducks in a row and know what you are up to. My personal opinion is that now we will have to wait until Octomom allows anyone else close enough to those children to help, and that thought sickens me.

I don't care to get further into this, because unless you know CPS and what you are talking about it is pointless. Maybe my post will be read by the next person who might be able to help these kids, and maybe not. There may never be another opportunity like Gina had, and since she is a mandated reporter, it infuriates me that she didn't do a better job. There's a forum "salivating" to have these kids placed in a better home, If they really want to help, they better learn how to, and the fact that Gina loved the kids and did great things for them is greatly overshadowed, at least to me, imho and all that, by the fact that they are still with Suleman, and who knows when there will be someone in the position to help again. That's the risk you take when you wait for someone else to report abuse, and everyone who cares about kids needs to know that. There are a boatload of private school teachers who are probably equally as guilty, and ex or present day nannies. What matters is that people learn how to help these kids efficiently, and every other child in need. My problem is really with waiting. Who would wait to report abuse?

wastedTime
wastedTime

I have to reply, even though I swear each time is the last time and correct you DDD. It's Saint GinaB. You know, the one who is a mandated reporter who announced on public television that she waited as long as she could to report octomom hoping someone else would. (so she could continue to see the kids) Here is a link to  read about mandated reporting in CA.  http://www.cdss.ca.gov/cdssweb/entres/forms/English/PUB132.pdf    And here is a quote from the laws governing this...

When to report...

"Although wordy, the intent of this definition is clear: if you suspect, report.You must make a report immediately (or as soon as practically possible) by phone. A written report must be forwarded within 36 hours of receiving the information regarding the incident.

That sure isn't the case here, and it's clear no one took her seriously because of this.

wastedTime
wastedTime

If all the people obsessed with taking Octomom's kids away would go be big sisters or brothers, or volunteer at hospitals in programs to help kids, because you care about kids, right? Then we would have a much better world. These kids are worth working to help, but at some point, it's better to admit you aren't really doing anything to help and just go help other kids. Keep your eye on the Solomon's, but don't lose sight of the ball. All kids are special and worth saving. If all the time spent reading and commenting about Octomom were actually spent volunteering to help other children in need - and there are many, many much worse off than these 14 - then the world would be a better place, but instead you guys bicker and just look stupid. Really, I don't like Ms. Suleman, but what I read here makes me feel sorry for her because you are all so full of hate. You need to get hobbies that actually involve helping kids and in your spare time, report her CPS if you feel like it. If they don't act, well, go help another kid for a while.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

Lol. Grandma b is trying to boss people on here too. No grandma b this isn't your forum. So go back and crawl under your rock

donedonedone
donedonedone

Notice how someone is systematically getting rid of so many of the more interesting posters who don't agree with kissing the warden's ring?

How convenient for the control-obsessed to label anyone who questions you a troll and who is determined to be actually feeding you only whatever she wants you to hear.

Enough of us are gone that there is a lot of talk of another site free of the bone-crushing power freaks. I'm not into that -- I am really sooo tired of the whole thing, aren't you? ---and if I want to write any more about this I have better ways. Except that the sad actual truth is ---brace yourselves-- no one but you wants to read about it.

But I do wish the others well who also have put in year after year of free time and interest only to have to inevitably end up dealing with being treated so shabbily by someone who should never have been handed over the reins. And someone who gets so much satisfaction from treating contributors so badly is actually running things.Actually, I don't even see the need for more sites now that the end is in sight. I wish Gina Bryson and her family a joyous year making the the Great 8 part of it.

Looks to me that you will all be reading just what you deserve---like some pretentiously simpering leprechaun-- when you kick off anyone who dares dissent to those who require affirmation more than information.

Maybe you should ask yourself why you as a grown -up are spending part of your life on a site that compulsively tracks down and analyzes teenagers' twitters about Nadya Suleman. You might ask yourself whether all that sanctimonious free-floating hate isn't every bit as addictive as skankcandy. So much so that you routinely turn it on each other every time things get slow.

grandmabb49
grandmabb49

I choose to ignore DDD and her rants.  I suggest everyone else ignore her too.  Don't feed the troll.

butfuck
butfuck

@strawberrysundae I don't see you as invisible. I see you as someone who will do anything to hurt a human being you don't like. Good for you.

mahopinion1
mahopinion1

@wastedTime Your bitterness is showing. Good riddance.

donedonedone
donedonedone

@wastedTime 

I know.  Same here 

Wasn't it a nice workout, though. Just like the old days before everyone left and it all went so menopausally bulldog.  I wonder if anyone there is left that even knows that by definition a forum is an exchange of ideas and not the place where you go to genuflect to She Who Must Bark.

Arbitrary rules about never "attacking" people actually meant that that  was a privilege reserved for the management's favorites. I notice Southern Belle got her free pass and has not been dealt with for accusing me well AFTER I said I was not aware, let alone involved. 

I may show up again after Christmas -- gone til then -- to let you all in on BackdoorGina's big goof. If I remember. Time to get off the computer and drag out the gift wrap and ornaments.

donedonedone
donedonedone

@wastedTime @wastedTime

Sigh. My planet doesn't even include the usual CPS maze. You do have a way of making Christmas even cheerier, don't you.

I don't think CPS will have ultimately much to do with it. I think Nadya Suleman will end up handing the kids over to Gina privately--- because that is simply what will make life easiest for her. That is basically the sum of her life process. It's her default position squared.

For lots of reasons . Primary among them that she has tasted freedom while someone else took care of them for FREE. She never even called to see how they were. There is no bond there. She knows all she has to do is get rid of the 8 and she'll still have enough to live the life she had. She (and Backdoor Gina) know that she can make lots more money on the media circuit saying --I did it for the sake of my other kids because I made a big mistake --than she can if she keeps them, BTW. Penitence trumps Cruella very easily. She can weep on cue, right through her mink lashes. Then everyone will love her.

Then she dumps the 5 or 6 on the indentured parents and life all goes back to fun and games in La Habra and hotel room tours nationwide. Or anywhere NOT Palmdale.

There is NO more money to be made off this phase. time to move on.. BackdoorGina would have tried to by now otherwise.  Although she does not seem to have noted the big money maker in the room -- which I won't say just yet so she can't do it. And once it is pointed out will just underline what an exceptionally lousy manager she has turned out to be.

This group does not lead the lifestyle where they want CPS poking around too closely ---Palmdale is one big pharmaceutical buffet- and that's where it is headed. So BackdoorGina is either headed out the backdoor over a non-earner or it's time to redo the lifestyle.I don't think the foster care "system" enters into it. It did before GinaB. But the playing field has changed. Now Suleman can dump the kids, keep them all together in a fine home, AND make BIG media money from the dumping.

One of us is right. The other isn't. I don't really care about your voluminous foster theories because this is utterly atypical and in the public eye. I firmly believe that Suleman is repetitive in her behaviors . If it worked before to get what she wants she 'll just do it again. She exists circumscribed within her comfort zone. And Gina B is what she did for FREE before. Free being top three on her list always.

It is possible that this silence is due to dealing with Aiden. The appeal of dumping a mere easy 5, 4, if she can dump Calyssa too, on her parents and devote herself furthering all her many shining talents is not lost on her.

And this whole thing with the porn awards leads me to believe that change will be coming soon. I truly think she'd crawl backwards from Palmdale to be there. Something has happened.When these 8 were infants I one day said on octorazzi that I believed her future would be as a professorial wronged mother. That she would end up not having the kids and make a media mint complaining about that. I just didn't think it would happen til they were in kindergarten.She managed to buy the silence of the first 3 . The next are too incapacitated. but the 8? She has way more reason to dump them than to keep them. We can only absolutely thank God that Gina Bryson exists. Proof of divine intervention in the very worst of situations.

Just remember I was first to call this rehab thing way, way before anyone else did. I'm not wrong about this one either. I also said she was heading to be a juvee mom while I was still on octorazzi. That happened too.

Just think like a tweaker starring in her own Lifetime movie -- and that is how she proceeds. Especially now that Christina and Charlene aren't there to teamnadya advise her and put on what little brakes there were.. Her judgement is limited to: what's in it for me. And what that is is her freedom as a "working girl". She'll just be doing her job and missing her babies--sob,sob- all the way to the bank.

donedonedone
donedonedone

@wastedTime 

What you aren't getting is that for GinaB to get the kids is helping Suleman as much as the kids.  Once Suleman is backed into a corner, just as she was before when she sought out GinaB who she had  been angry at, she'll figure out this is what she  is best off doing. And I am sure CPS will go along with it.

Nadya Suleman has always done only what is best for her royal tween self. And this is the only thing left that will be. Let's just hope all the kids survive intact until Miss Child Rearing Genius lets that sink in between toots and tweaks. Once the money is gone it will probably sink in real fast. It has before, hasn't it.

I agree with you fully that Gina is taking a bad risk affiliating herself with a haterz site, though. It's just not a good idea taking a risk that big for a private group that ineffectually small. If the reason for it is to publicize misdeeds,then that's been done. Go somewhere neutral and BIG to do that. Or if it is truly  newsworthy then go somewhere where there are news people. Not  backbiting well-meaning meddlers who can only make things worse. 

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

I vote for clamming up though. 

donedonedone
donedonedone

@wastedTime

How can you ask us why we aren't doing something and then trash the one person who did?You weren't there. A kind person who had to make difficult judgement calls was. 

And as far as mandated reporting goes, what about all those hordes of lovely professional folks at CPS who knew even before these kids were born what a serial child abuser this creature is. What about Kaiser? She was there for months. They must have known all too well what a psycho she is. Why aren't you going after them?

If Gina Bryson hadn't done for these kids what she has,from what we know now their lives really would be as dismal as lab animals.Instead of sniping at her, why can't you be grateful that she exists.

 Suleman will figure out sooner or later that GinaB is doing her an immense favor in permanently fixing her mistake and giving her her old life back as much as she is doing the kids one. That's all that matters to her, isn't it..You just do not want to alienate her so that she crosses off that option or drags her feet any longer than she already has

.My worry is that it may be counterproductive for GinaB to be throwing in her lot with what Suleman can easily regard as a private club of haterz. Why exactly would she hand her kids over to those who she may see violate her privacy as a matter of course.

I'm content to leave knowing that a solution has appeared in the form of Gina Bryson. I'm not going to hang around and make things worse for her

.I just hope you aren't KSI and I didn't go to bat for someone with a peculiar grudge.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

@wastedTime Sorry you are wasting your time. Grandmab and her ilk do nothing but fetch and moan and then want everyone to kiss their asses. They think they are so important cause they "manage" a forum of 2oo members. lol 200????? Wow And if you don't pay due homage to Grandmab she will make rude and snarky comments directed at you even though that is against forum rules. But actually you have to feel sorry for someone like grandma b. obviously she has been powerless her whole life, so now that she has "power" over 200 people in cyber space and she has to come down like a rabid she-dog

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

One of the most profound things I've ever said! (pats self on back)

mahopinion1
mahopinion1

@donedonedone LMAO. Talk about delusional, Gala. You were NEVER interesting.

wastedTime
wastedTime

@donedonedone You are wasting your time. I appreciate what you are saying, but you can't reach closed minds.

donedonedone
donedonedone

@grandmabb49 

Would that were only true. 

Want to tell them about how you like to send those threatening PMs? See, the way it goes is if a contributor posts something. PRIVATELY in a PM, they get punished since apparently  a Private Message isn't, there..But if management  repeatedly uses PMs to threaten that is par for the course.

Did you think I'd care? Seriously? Barking up the wrong tree, aren't you?

I've got more cookies to go roll out. I'd say its been fun..... But it hasn't. God, you are a mean little misery.

donedonedone
donedonedone

@mahopinion1 

Really?And You never will be, dear.  Hate to clue you in. Sad way to try to get noticed though. Did it work for you in junior high?

And just how much have you added to that boring old litter box full of, LOL, desirables? 

So why do you seem to invariably need to to chew on every word I write in to your tedious old cud. I'd say you are likely one of those that hangs on every word. Bet you read all of this twice over,didn't you.

San Diego must have a permanent full moon over it that shines only for dullards like you. Does your boss know that you use your campus computer to write all that hate mail?

And is grandmab going to give you double dogbiscuits for baring your insipid fangs?

Gotta keep all that hate overflowing, huh? What good is vitriol without a place to spread it? You must be really fun at parties. 

donedonedone
donedonedone

@wastedTime @donedonedone 

that's not the issue.

GrandmaB just took her revenge out on me in the last possible way she could --unwittingly doing me a huge favor.

And likely because I recommended to GinaB that, discretion being the better part of valor, Suleman may feel that GinaB becoming a mascot for this haterz site might just not be the best way to get what she wants sooner rather than later. No matter how dumb you are , why would you hand over your kids to someone who has been part of years of dissing you?

If GrandmaB really had the kids interests first, rather than her own, this might have occurred to her. But then where would grandmaB if it wasn't for gate-keeping this site?

Suleman has actually been quiet and what happens--- they start goading her. Way to go.

Stevie might be inelegant in the way she puts it, but she is right to feel bullied and mis-treated. It' just happening too often at the cost of diversity and loss of supporters to the site wondering where the whatever Warden grandmaB gets off treating contributors the way she does. We all have our good points , including her. But her need to hear bones crunch overrides way too much.

Not my problem. Now that Gina Bryson has proven to be the true saving grace for those kids, it is only a matter of time before Suleman realizes that Gina Bryson is NadyaSuleman's saving grace, too. It's the last I need to know.

But it is possible GrandmaB and her mean-spirited personal -agenda might just be making that later rather than sooner? That heavily censored partisan site is now a place where affirmation trumps information unless she approves it first. The cost of that is a loss of diversity and of course a loss of interest as she chokes off one by one anyone who has anything to say she does not approve of.

Don't forget that KSI contributed a ton of good things. And the way she was treated was routinely shabby. And could have been handled lost better otherwise if power-plays weren't so all-consuming

And no I do not think at all KSI wrote that. You do have someone there who is malevolent and twisted and very capable of doing that, though. Although she can't write for crap on her own. Abysmally God-awful worst writer EVER. But you are way too busy fawning over her to notice. Suleman is not the only psycho in this situation.

grandmabb49
grandmabb49

@donedonedone @grandmabb49  Threatening PMs?  Let's put this all out there, okay?  

DDD/Gala1/Icanhazskankbling/keychian/bemused has caused trouble from the very beginning in the forum.  DDD was banned three times because she kept sneaking back into the forum that she says hates.  The “private club of haterz,” as DDD calls them.  Now why would someone want to sneak back into a place they say they hate?  And why would she want to come back THREE times under assumed names?  It must be because she wanted desperately to be a part of that forum.

Now let’s talk about PMs.  One of the most vitriolic PMs I have ever read was a PM from Donedonedone to a member which caused DDD to be banned.  I, and many other people, couldn’t believe the hate that was written in that message. If DDD would like, I’d be happy to post it here so everyone can enjoy DDD’s awesomeness and compassion.  (Yes, that’s another snark.)

Yes, I did send snarky PMs to DDD when she tried to come back into the forum after her delusional post here.  It said, “You hate this forum but you can't stay away? What a hypocrite!” and “Can't keep away? You seem to rant about how bad we are and yet you can't keep away. Tell you what... try it, you may like it. (I know we will).”  Threatening?  I don't think so.

DDD is a very bitter person who apparently feels the need to belong to a group – even one she says she hates. But when she crosses the line in that group and gets banned, she immediately goes to other sites and posts her hate of those people.  She also likes to expound on what other people’s lives are like but hasn’t looked deep into her own life as to why she does what she does. She also hasn’t looked at her own hypocritical behavior.  I’d like to post a quote from DDD so maybe she can see the relationship of what she is doing here to what she is accusing others of doing.

“Gotta keep all that hate overflowing, huh? What good is vitriol without a place to spread it? You must be really fun at parties.” - Donedonedone

mahopinion1
mahopinion1

@donedonedone. Talk about "clever" . You know how to click a link to read a profile. Actually, I am amazed you weren't too drunk to do it this time. Maybe you ought to go to rehab with Notamomma next time. You could be best biddie porn buddies. Better yet, why don't you get Peanut to share some of her meds with you. Yawn. You are so predictably boring. I bet you are just itching to keep reading your biddie porn. I've never seen anyone so desperate for attention the way you are. Repeatedly sneaking back to where you aren't wanted...Octorazzi, NS.com and then FF. What a sad life you must lead. I will say, the forums are always more fun when you are banned.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

@mahopinion1 so you are saying that Grandmab does spew? you are agreeing with me? I don't think that is allowed. I see a 2 week ban coming. Lol don't bite the hand that feeds you. I think that was one of Val's stupid quotes

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

@valkyre10 @donedonedone

Haha. Who cares about getting banned. I only came back cause I saw you disparaging ksi on public forum. Hey Val (why don't you go volunteer to help disadvantaged children instead of "monitering" a forum of 200 other nuts. All you do is sit around and complain. Go do something and help the world instead of running a hate forum.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

@grandmabb49 @donedonedone

One more thing. NO ONE cares about a forum that has 200 members. It's a drip in a bucket. So please don't act like you run a powerful forum.

stevie_girl
stevie_girl

@grandmabb49 @donedonedone

Haha. I knew Grandmab couldnt resist commenting. She is so full of vitriol and hatred it just spews over.

I left a word misspelled so you'll have something interesting to ruminate about! Oops I almost ended that last sentence with a preposition.

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