[UPDATED] Is Challenger Sharon Quirk-Silva Afraid to Debate Assemblyman Chris Norby?

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Sharon Quirk-Silva: Not in a hurry to debate
Update: See the end of post for debate organizer calling Quirk-Silva's campaign version of events dishonest.

ORIGINAL POST, OCT. 26, 2012 7:30 A.M.: With the Nov. 6 election approaching, the campaign of Republican state Assemblyman Chris Norby is questioning the political mettle of his Democratic Party challenger Sharon Quirk-Silva.

Both campaigns confirm that the Cypress Chamber of Commerce and the West Island Neighbors Group (WIN) extended invitations to appear at candidate forums.

But Silva didn't sign on for either and the reasoning for her hesitancy--odd especially because normally it's the challenger that demands multiple debates with the incumbent--is open to interpretation.

According to the webpage for WIN, which represents a large section of unincorporated Anaheim, Norby will appear at its special meeting tonight at 7 p.m.

"We invited his challenger, Sharon Quirk-Silva" reads the page. "But she declined to attend."

Norby spokesman John Lewis told the Weekly yesterday that the incumbent has been more than willing to face off with Quirk-Silva in the public realm, but the feeling isn't mutual.

"Third parties have tried to set up debates," Lewis  said. "Norby accepts. She declines."

Silva's camp says it's a matter of scheduling.

"To the best of my knowledge, we've had two requests," said Bill Wachob, a Quirk-Silva campaign spokesman. "(One) was from Anaheim on a night that Sharon had a council meeting. We told them she wouldn't be available and we never heard back." 

He explained that Quirk-Silva, who works a teacher with the Fullerton School District and is currently mayor of Fullerton, spends her free time vigorously campaigning, personally drumming up support by going door to door and meeting groups.

"The Cypress Chamber of Commerce had given us two or three dates and they cleared those dates with Norby," Wachob said. "They happened to be dates that Sharon was working."

But when the Weekly mentioned the message on the WIN group's website, whose event timing does not conflict with Fullerton City Council Meetings (held on Tuesdays), Wachob seemed perplexed.

"I guess I'd be surprised if they had it on their web site that she declined the opportunity to attend," he said.

Some criticize Quirk-Silva, who according to numbers release earlier this month, out raised Norby by more than $80,000, as being a bit of a fraidy cat.

This week on his Friends For Fullerton's Future blog, Tony Bushala, a vocal Norby supporter, published a post suggesting Silva's hesitance to engage in public debate stemmed from fear that she was being lured into a trap. "Some campaign flunky responded that it might be a trap to embarrass Silva," read the post which appeared with a photo of a running chicken. 

"She doesn't want to get smoked out on certain issues," Lewis said. "She's never taken a stand on Prop 30 publicly, but people who know her suggest she's enthusiastically supporting it." 

Yesterday however, Wachob confirmed to the Weekly that Silva does in fact support the proposition, which will raise state income tax 10 percent for people making more than $250,000.

"She said when people have asked her that she supports it. I don't know what else the assemblyman would be talking about," Wachob said, adding that if the right opportunity presented itself, Silva would debate Norby.

"(But) with 12 days left I don't know if we could find a mutually agreeable date," he said.

Perhaps as an attempt to goad the challenger into the ring, Norby's spokesman offered up some fighting words to draw Silva out of her corner.

"It's not a fair fight intellectually," said Lewis. "Chris is a brilliant guy, he understands government, he understands public policy, and Sharon Quirk Silva's just not as good on the uptick."

UPDATE OCT.29, 2012 12:30 P.M.: Nancy Francis, a community leader with the West Island Neighbors, told the Weeky that the Quirk-Silva campaign wasn't honest about the Democrat's alleged willingness to debate Norby.

"When I asked her to attend the candidates' forum with Norby, I said she could pick the date," Francis explained. "When they got back to me they said, 'There's no available time.' So her supposed willingness just isn't true."

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rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

Greg Diamond--the disgraced Brea lawyer--loves to write blog comments. In fact, though allegedly running for state senate and calling himself a political genius, he is clueless about how to campaign or win. But he loves to feel important!

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

"Some criticize Quirk-Silva, who according to numbers release earlier this month, out raised Norby by more than $80,000, as being a bit of a fraidy cat.  This week on his Friends For Fullerton's Future blog, Tony Bushala, a vocal Norby supporter, published a post suggesting Silva's hesitance to engage in public debate stemmed from fear that she was being lured into a trap. "Some campaign flunky responded that it might be a trap to embarrass Silva," read the post which appeared with a photo of a running chicken. "

 

Some people -- notably me -- say in a comment to that story that they've been told by several people that when cops were called to Norby's house on Sept. 2, 2010 by a deliveryman reporting an act of domestic violence, his newly pregnant wife complained that he had physically assaulted her.  They also say that his wife went to the Fullerton Police Station the next day when her husband was gone, filed a police report, and had photos taken of her bruising.  They go on to say that the case was then hushed up by then-Chief Sellers and the file "put away" somewhere.  The FPD told me (through their lawyer) that I was not entitled to the public records request, but that it could only be made available to Mrs. Norby herself.  I asked Chris Norby if he would ask his wife to procure the file so that I could (1) check for the photos and (2) find the name of the witness who allegedly saw him assault his wife in a particularly atrocious way.  He hasn't.  So there's another place for a picture of a chicken.

 

I also asked Scott Moxley if he's like to have all of the information I had about it (without burning my sources) so that he could use the superior experience and resources of the Weekly to investigate it -- and he refused without even bothering to say "no."  I'll make the same offer to you, right here, right now -- but, alas, as your editors he's not going to let you cover it either, will he?  That wouldn't go along with his political bent.Should I post another picture of a chicken?

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

Brandon -- when does the West Island Neighbors Group usually meet?

 

(I know the answer; I just don't think you do -- or you'd have reported it.)

 

Looks to me that it's more likely that when someone at WING told her when the event would take place, they got their wires crossed.  Report the facts and let people decide.

Idi_Amin
Idi_Amin

Maybe she is afraid he will try to marry her.

danK.
danK.

If you have ever heard her speak, you'll quickly understand why she doesn't want to face Norby.

 

He is articulate and well spoken, she is more of an airhead.

 

Socks for homeless people come to mind. She is detatched from reality.

Mikejh52
Mikejh52

Quirk-Silva is supported by Loretta Sanchez and funded by tons of labor union money and endorsed by Planned Parenthood --and she wants us to believe that she is some sort of post-partisan that will promote unity in Sacramento.  She sounds just like everyone else up there already.  Whether you agree with him or not, at least Norby demonstrates consistency and principle in his legislation. I'm going with him. 

trebuchetme
trebuchetme

Everyday this week, I've been received mail from Quirk-Silva's campaign smearing Norby and now she doesn't want to give him the opportunity to defend himself? This is truly embarrassing for democracy. Either publicly put your ideas up against Norby's or get out of the race. Sacramento doesn't need another spineless legislator.

Molly
Molly

Does having two last names make her more important?

Maybe she's descended from royalty or something and she doesn't want to loose Daddy's last name or her husband's?

Hyphenated names bespeak insecurity and pretentiousness. Don't vote for this clod.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @rscottmoxley I'm not going address the merits of your repeated hysterical charges against me in this comments section until after the election, but I would like to point out that (1) you're off-topic and (2) you should locate any desire you may still have to preserve your dignity and heed it.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@GregDiamond Gregory A. Diamond isn't just lazy and inept in his non-existent state senate campaign. Diamond, a 7th tier defense lawyer, is a knowing and willful liar. In response to his odd, self-serving obsession with Norby's marriage, I asked him to spare me the hysteria (he couldn't) and show me evidence. He refused because, I believe, he wanted me to agree not to expose his own pathetic 29th state senate campaign against Bob Huff as a condition. That didn't happen. As I have reported, Diamond is California's worst, most laughable state senate candidate in memory. His campaign consists of nothing other than spending day after day, week after week, month after month doing nothing but writing obnoxious blog comments. This pronounced obsessive compulsive conduct raises serious concerns about his lack of emotional stability--especially for an unemployed man in his 50s. On Nov. 6, the voters will overwhelmingly reject him and his candidacy, and he should immediately check into a mental health facility. Despite his ugly personality, ignorance and ridicuously inflated sense of importance--he has zero accomplishments in OC, we wish him a speedy recovery. And, given the sad Diamond embarrassment of 2012, hope that OC Democrats will institute a basic psychiatric test for future candidates seeking an official endorsement.

nancy497
nancy497

 @GregDiamond

 I. Nancy Francis, am the leader of the West Island Neighbors.  We meet on the 1st Tuesday of every month except August, as we have for the past 7 years.  I invited Sharon Quirk-Silva to attend a special meeting at any date and time that would be convenient for her.  She couldn't find the time in her schedule.  Also, her people suggested that she did not want to attend the meeting as they were afraid of an ambush. I went out of my way to make the meeting as safe from attack as possible, she still declined to attend.  Personally, I cannot vote for someone who is unwilling to meet with the people she is running to represent.  Chris Norby gets my vote.

 

GustavoArellano
GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

 @GregDiamond Having Greg Diamond offer advice on journalism is like having Greg Diamond offer advice on how to run a successful political campaign.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@GregDiamond Don't lecture Brandon, Greg. Unlike you, he's not a two-faced, lying political hack. Oh--and he has a job with a regular paycheck!!! For you--an unemployed, unstable hack in your 50s, that's gotta hurt.

brandonf76
brandonf76

 @GregDiamond I did report the facts Greg. I reported about the announcement on the group's website, I reported about  the meeting occurring Friday night. Are you disputing those facts? Are you suggesting WIN was up to something shady? Because Silva's spokesman didn't say as much when I told him about the announcement. Do you know something we don't?

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @danK. Norby is an affable (so long as you're not married to him) one-trick pony who things that strangling the government is the solution to every problem.  Yeah, he's "articulate" in the way that lots of political extremists are articulate -- being unmoored from reality and common sense gives one lots of latitude to focus on style points.Sadly, despite Sen. Lewis's lovingly stroking him, his view of government and public policy is facile at best.  He doesn't know how to make government *work*; most of what he knows about "government" is that it's been cutting him a paycheck every week or two for decades and that he can score political points by saying that, where *others* are involved, that's a bad thing.

 

As for "socks for homeless people," do you know where that came from?  She went out and asked homeless people what they needed.  They said that they needed socks to protect their feet.  So she tried to help them allay that problem.  That's the opposite of being "detached from reality" -- except in your bubble.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @trebuchetme He has a gob of his friend Tony Bushala's money at his disposal.  He has no "opportunity to defend himself?"  Maybe you're thinking of his wife.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @Molly "Hyphenated names bespeak insecurity and pretentiousness."

 

Hey, whatever guy wrote this crap -- next time have an actual woman look at it before you publish.  Meanwhile, let's have Brace Sir Norby see if he wants to stand behind the sentiment.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

 @GregDiamond  @rscottmoxley I've repeatedly pointed out with facts that you are clueless (and strangely angry) when it comes to politics or journalism. Yet you lecture everyone as if you are an expert. Greg, you've run the most inept and lazy state senate campaign in CA this election. That is one reason you feel you must earn cheap points with real candidates like Sharon. On Nov. 6, you'll officially earn the one title that fits someone with your lack of character: Loser.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @rscottmoxley  Aside from all of the other lies there, I'd just like to point out that I'm not a defense lawyer at all.  I'm a plaintiff's lawyer.

 

As for Norby -- I offered to give Moxley all of the information I had, and to explain how I would pursue the truth of the matter given the resources, with the exception of my identifying sources who did not want to be revealed.  He refused.  If refusing to report on my campaign was a condition, then I suppose that Moxley will be able to produce the e-mail where I said that.  He can publish it as a reply to this comment.  Scott?  (Note: it's an easy demand for me to make, because I never said that. It's just another Moxley Lie that poor Gustavo has to pretend not to notice.)

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @GustavoArellano Yeah -- in both I stress honesty.  You must find that confusing.

 

Care to argue the merits of the argument that I presented, Gustavo, that the time probably conveyed to Silva for the event was in fact one of the two days of the month when she DID have a City Council meeting (he said, expecting no substantive reply)?

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @rscottmoxley  As you've requested, I'm trying to not respond to most of your general (and generally fact-free) comments here.  I think that their unhinged nature speaks for themselves.  I may take the bait for the next story that you keep threatening to write; the rest will wait until after the election, when the Kraken's schedule is more free.  Until then, Roland....

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @brandonf76 What you missed, Brandon, is a benign explanation for the entire thing.  Quirk-Silva (not "Silva" -- is the concept of hyphenated names difficult for you?) said that she couldn't attend the event because of a conflict with a City Council meeting.  Fullerton's City Council meets on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the month.  WING normally meets ... on the 1st Tuesday of the month!  It seems highly likely that the information conveyed to the Quirk-Silva campaign was that the event would take place .. on the 1st Tuesday of the month!  That would account for their explanation.

 

The meeting was either originally scheduled for, or was later changed to, Friday Oct. 26 -- which is awfully late to have a debate -- but it seems clear that, at least at the point her campaign spoke of the conflict, it believed that the event was to be held on a first Tuesday.  We don't know if the wrong information was conveyed to the campaign, or if it was changed and they weren't told about the revised date, or what.  These sorts of communication failures do sometimes happen innocently.

 

Quirk-Silva's spokesperson seemed befuddled by the notion that the meeting was actually NOT on the 1st Tuesday of the month, which suggests he honestly held the belief that that's when it was to be held.  It's pretty clear where he might have gotten that belief.

 

I don't have any inside info about shadiness by WING.  The "inside information" I had is that, when presented with an apparent contradiction, I read the rest of the the (relatively small) website to seek a clue as to how this might have happened -- and I immediately found one.  It was there for you too, had you looked for it.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@GregDiamond @danK. Greg, you are such a self-important, pathetic liar. Stop pretending you know Norby.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@GregDiamond @trebuchetme Oh, geez. disgraced Brea lawyer Gregory A. Diamond, you are also obsessed with Tony's wealth? Try working an entire day--any day in a year--and see if you too can finally earn a paycheck. Writing hundreds of inane blog comments every single days for months doesn't pay well does it, big boy? At least, you have suckered well-meaning Liberals to give you cash/checks and have gloated about keeping your expenses a secret from public inspection. I hope nobody else wastes their hard earned money to a con artist like you.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

@GregDiamond @Molly Greg, you are a despicable juvenile. I cannot believe you managed to con the OC Dems into endorsing your losing, inept campaign for state senate. What? Huh? Who is that laughing his butt off? Oh, that's Bob Huff, the incumbent who didn't have to do anything to crush you.

rscottmoxley
rscottmoxley topcommenter

 @GregDiamond You are a prolific liar and I laugh at your gross incompetence and moral corruption.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @brandonf76 Oh, Brandon, don't be an asshole.  It may be considered a job qualification at the Weekly, but it isn't overall.

 

Now, do you have anything substantive to say in response to my suggestion that it's pretty obvious how a misunderstanding (on either end) could have come about?

brandonf76
brandonf76

 @GregDiamond Maybe when you lose your race for State Senate Silva will hire you as her spokesperson.

GregDiamond
GregDiamond

 @rscottmoxley  'Pretending I know Norby"?  We've met, we've shaken hands, we've talked, I've heard him speak, and I've read his websites, e-mails, and what he has to say.  That's all I need to make the statements I made about your hero.

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