[UPDATED with Car Wash for Jeremy:] 16-year-old Boy, OC Homicide No. 33: Neighbor Jose Gil Held in Fatal Stabbing

See Update No. 2 at the end of this post on a car wash fund-raiser for the victim's family.

See Update No. 1 detailing the suspect's release from custody, angering the dead boy's family.


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Jose Gil
ORIGINAL POST, SEPT. 10, 9:19 A.M.: A man who had been involved in a prior dispute with teenagers in his Garden Grove neighborhood is now facing murder charges for the stabbing of a 16-year-old boy.

This went down before midnight Friday night, when a group of teens saw Jose Gil riding on a bike, went after the 31-year-old and confronted him, leading to a fistfight, according to a statement from Garden Grove Police Lt. Jeff Nightengale.

The teens were visiting a friend near Gil's residence in the 11600 block of Barclay Drive when the man was spotted on his bike. They got in a car and went looking for Gil before the fight that involved him and at least one other teenager, Nightengale said.

One teen was stabbed during that fight and later taken by paramedics to a local hospital, where he died after several hours of medical treatment, according to Nightengale.

While Gil was booked on suspicion of murder, the police agency is working with the Orange County District Attorney's office to figure out what the ultimate charges against Gil will be, Nightengale said.

And the investigation is continuing. Anyone with information is asked to contact Investigator Reynolds at 714.741.5800.

UPDATE NO. 1, SEPT. 13, 9:33 A.M.: Jose Gil has been released from custody due to a request from prosecutors for further investigation into the fatal stabbing of the 16-year-old boy, according to the Orange County District Attorney's office (OCDA).

"Once that is complete, we will review if criminal charges are appropriate," explained Farrah Emami, the OCDA spokeswoman, to the Weekly.

This development has angered the dead boy's family, who contend "Crazy Joe," as neighbors know him, is a "lunatic" and "a self-appointed neighborhood watchman" who "fights with all the skaters."

"He set a really obvious trap and the kids must've fell for it because this guy is out now," said a relative of the deceased, speaking for the boy's parents and asking that all not be identified. "There were only words exchanged then he reached into his bike basket thing and took out the knife. Anyone could easily go egg some kids on and let them come at them and hurt them. It has to be seen that way."

The way authorities see it is the incident happened on Gil's driveway, where he was outnumbered 3 to 1. It bolsters Gil's argument that he acted in self-defense.

But the relative counters Gil "is at least 6 feet tall and 220 pounds" and claims he was under the influence of alcohol and medication.

"He's a giant next to the kids," the relative said of Gil. "Jose wanted confrontation and waited for it and now he has convinced everyone that he feared for his life when in reality he was frustrated at the kids and intoxicated and wanted the exchange of words because of an earlier argument. He waited for that second exchange of words with the one kid, pulled out a knife and stabbed [him]."

The relative claims Gil was involved in another incident with a different youth minutes before the stabbing, producing a separate police call.

"Jose Gil was searched, the police found a knife and pepper spray in his basket on his bicycle," he said. "The police knew he was heavily intoxicated and under the influence of medication and let him go. Five minutes later, he killed [the boy] with that same knife."

The relative claimed to "only want fair justice seen on all sides no matter what. I am not a person that would wish unfairness in order to feel better, ever, and I'm am not speaking out of anger. I do hope that the justice system sees that there is a possible injustice here, a 16-year-old child's life was taken at the hands of an adult. And if the facts and evidence are looked at closely and fairly and are understood by a jury, only then will 'fair' justice be served. And if that means Jose Gil walks free after a fair look, I will accept it then."

The trick now will be getting the case before that jury.

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UPDATE NO. 2, SEPT. 14, 9:35 A.M.: There will be a "Car Wash for Jeremy," the 16-year-old stabbed to death by a neighbor, Saturday at Our Redeemer Church, 12301 Magnolia Ave., Garden Grove.

Minimum donation is $5 for cars and $10 for large SUV's.

Money raised will help the family lay Jeremy to rest.

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joegillalkaline
joegillalkaline

SO MR MATT COKER!! WHAT RELATIVE SAID THIS!  "He's a giant next to the kids,"  LOL YOU DORK  !!   lmao 

n2bigmuscle
n2bigmuscle topcommenter

wait, wait, wait....do I have this correct....you have a crazy guy in the neighborhood that does drugs with the kids, has ties with GGPD and a bunch of teenagers confronts him? Of course one teen is dead now.  Sorry for your loss but was the kid a hot head or did his parents not tell him to stay away from crazy people? 

ohmytegoddess
ohmytegoddess

he will have to meet his maker, sooner then later. somebody will end him, but not before they put his family thru hell for the rest of their lives, How funny is it now Joe. You stabbed a little boy. You murdered a child. And thats funny to you?? Fricken Crack head. Watch your mommas pain when she gets spit on at the store for what you did. If you laugh its cause you don't care about your own family. They will pay for what you did!!


joegillalkaline
joegillalkaline

gnorance is like a gun in hand

Reach out to the promised land
Your history books are full of lies AND YOUR OC WEEKLY IS FULL OF PROSTITUTION AND DRUGS  AND THIS IS WHAT MATT COKER WORKS FOR!! AND HE STILL TALKS SHIT!! CLOWN!!

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

People know what Joe Gil is right? He's being protected by the Garden Grove PD for a reason. He's known for that. He hangs out with all of the kids in the neighborhood, gives them speed and smokes with them, takes excessive amounts of pills and is a police informant. He hangs out with kids by the movie theaters and I always wondered what the heck he was doing hanging around them. It's just weird. This started because the driver of the car, his friend stopped the car and hit up Joe for the stuff Joe took that belonged to him. Then the kid got in his face and said "what are you gonna do?" Joe went back to his bike and stabbed the little white kid. And yes, the kid he stabbed was white and Joe is Mexican and that has nothing to do with this. The cops are protecting Joe and are going to be exposed for that reason. The investigators are literally protecting Joe Gil because of his father's status with the police force and Garden Grove PD will be exposed for this. GGPD made the statement that makes it look like these kids were stalking Joe Gil and were beating him up, leaving Joe to defend himself.. that was not the case at all and the public needs to know that. Joe Gil was stopped by GGPD just minutes before this when they let Joe go. They knew Joe was drunk, under the influence, riding his bike (DUI) they knew he had a knife and pepper spray, therefore Garden Grove PD are in part responsible for letting him go in that condition. If a police officer is stopped off duty, drunk and sent home by on duty officers, and he kills someone on his way home, they are responsible for letting him go in that condition. Garden Grove PD is hiding all of this for the fact that Joe gives them information all the time, Joe's family ties to the police dept. and the fact that they let him go in that condition. Garden Grove PD will be exposed for their poor decision to protect Joe Gil and all of the investigators will have to explain why. OC Register won't revisit the story because they know the truth too and it makes them look bad. All of these facts will come out and I hope for the kid's sake that they make Joe Gil accountable for this murder.

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

As far as how it is now, it looks like Joe Alkaline (Jose Gil) has no remorse. He could reach out to the family and at least express anything to them instead of leaving it the way it is.

FuckJoe
FuckJoe

I wonder if he would still feel like a big man if all of garden grove showed up on his doorstep to let him know how we felt about him.

No_Neck_Joe_EyeSeeU
No_Neck_Joe_EyeSeeU

I know who this guy is. I saw him today. He's on the same beach cruiser with a basket in the front, patrolling the streets like he always did, waiting for someone to start shit with him. There are videos of him messing with bums and singing songs walking around and on his Facebook just last week he said "I AM THE SHERRIF OF THIS BLOCK" all crazy like that. JOE ALKALINE. And he posts about killing his cat and all kinds of crazy shit. Look him up. Facebook MySpace. That's so messed up that he's riding around tonight taunting the neighborhood. The cops should get this killer off the street like ASAP because he's riding around again. All around the neighborhood and he just killed someone. WAKE UP GARDEN GROVE.

20ftjesus
20ftjesus topcommenter

"The way authorities see it is the incident happened on Gil's driveway, where he was outnumbered 3 to 1. It bolsters Gil's argument that he acted in self-defense."

-- Matt Coker

JWalwayswithus
JWalwayswithus

It truly sickens me that this man is actually on the streets after taking my friend's life. After causing so much pain to others, after acting out of spite he forever changed the lives of COUNTLESS people, and he is walking casually. This is disgusting. The judicial system is corrupt. Anyone who says this "man" fought these teens in self defense is a coward. This 31 year old MAN couldn't hold his own and so he had to resort to a weapon to help him, pathetic. Anyone saying they were looking for trouble, have some fucking respect. A boys life, my friend who I have been blessed to have countless memories, is now lost to a murderer who walks these streets again. Tell me how that makes sense. Please, I beg you, help me understand how that is justice. I would never wish death upon anybody, but I hope this man struggles every day for the rest of his sad sorry little life for what he did.

thft78
thft78

on the ocpaper they said those fools were chasing him car,from my veiw they shouldve split instead of causing trouble,dont care how old the kid was but his dumass should not be hanging around at night driving around looking for trouble.

gutierrez.christen
gutierrez.christen

Be Smart!  He Didn't just Murder a 16 year Old, he now makes a family have to struggle. All of us friends are missing a pice of life. We can no longer go skate happy because our friends isn't there with use skating or meeting up with all our other friends to hangout but no now there crying when we meetup now theres pain being felt day after day my 2 friends that had to witness something like that will never be forgotten they have to live with the fact that they where there and lost a friend at sight! JUSTICE has not been served !! I dont believe in the whole judge and the court system our government is so messed up police brutality is even being overlooked the judge just wants his money and hes going to be Paid No matter joe is guilty or not ! in this life we live now there should be a law somewhere in the book saying

"IF YOU TAKE SOMEONES LIFE YOU MUST REPLACE IT WITH YOUR OWN"

EYE FOR AN EYE  

i know you have all heard this before but really what is all this self defense bull#%%

if it was the other way around and jeremy and the 2 other friends killed joe oh they would have maid it seem like they gang banged on him and jumped him  but no those 3 are not like that they are all heartfelt characters they are not the type to go start fight i know them all personally and they never go out in the streets to go find trouble as a matter of fact jeremy had a duty before he died and that was to go see his best friend Clara also great friend of mine to give her her phone but no he didn't have a chance to make it back JOE stabbed him and now WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR OUR JEREMY I MISS HIM AND LOVE HIM!!!  SUCH A GREAT PERSON !  please people who dont now anything to do with this just pray for this court system to take a turn We the people have rights and we know the truths out there !   

20ftjesus
20ftjesus topcommenter

Outraged parents crack me up.  Did you think about keeping your brood inside to do their homework?  Or even, "you know you should stay away from Crazy Joe 'cause he's cRaZy!" 

 

Sammmzzz
Sammmzzz

You are a peice if crap and if i EVER see you in garden grove again i will fucking stab you. You are nothing but a waste of oxygen. NOTHING. You prey on teens because you have NO life. On your Facebook no one likes your stupid videos. No gives a shit about you. You can prey on kids all you want but at the end of the day they will have more of a life than you.

joegillalkaline
joegillalkaline

Ignorance is like a gun in hand
Reach out to the promised land
Your history books are full of lies AND YOUR OC WEEKLY IS FULL OF PROSTITUTION AND DRUGS 

Media-blitz gonna dry your eyes

Have you ever been afraid
And felt society try to keep you down, I begin to watch things change
And see them turn around


blessedwith2
blessedwith2

 @peacefulprayers You seem to obviously have alot of details of the events that took place that nite as well as insight on who Joe's father is and what his family ties are to the GGPD. Have you offered any of this information to the family?

GodsaveAmerica
GodsaveAmerica

@No_Neck_Joe_EyeSeeU ARE YOU SERIOUS. THE COPS ARE LETTING HIM RIDE AROUND ANYEHERE HE WANTS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? 3 DAYS LATER?????? NO SHIT, WAKE UP GARDENGROVE POLICE DEPARTMENT... AMAZING JOE ALKALINE. JOE ALKALINE JOE ALKALINE. HE JUST KILLED A LITTLE WHITE SKATER KID, 16 YEARS OLD.

joegillalkaline
joegillalkaline

@gutierrez.christen  CLOWN AND YA YOU STILL LIVE WITH MOM AND DAD! BUT OHH DONT FORGET ME WHEN I WAS 17 I HAD TWO JOBS HAD A CARE AND MOVED OUT!! SO PASS THAT OUT YOU SON OF A GUN!! 

GGresident
GGresident

 @gutierrez.christen I'm sorry for your loss, but Jeremy killed himself. He should not have followed him around with all his friends. They were ASKING for trouble. Jeremy and his friends are just as guilty as Joe.

steve
steve

Exactly. This guy didn't kill this idiot, his parents did. Who let's their kids run around at that time of night? It was probably only a matter of time.

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@20ftjesus What cracks me up are the cRaZies that sit at home and comment just to be *****. Didn't you read that this was not the relatives speaking? You wear your ignorance and lack of education on your sleeve "Jesus". Your parents should have kept you inside to do your homework. Your family is definitely ashamed. Someone here is simply asking for fairness in the whole case. Especially if the police had Crazy Joe and let him go only minutes before he stabbed the kid. Anyone would want the same for any kid or person that was killed. Whether its a relative or not. We are in the United States last time I checked.

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@joegillalkaline Yeah make that phone call. Exactly what I've been saying this whole time.

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@joegillalkaline Joe, who can talk to police at one scene and be allowed to jump back on your bike and leave the scene even though GGPD acknowledged your drunken condition, then stab the 16 year old at least 3 times, once in the back 5 minutes later and not be charged or questioned for any if it? Who can do that besides you? Garden Grove PD is covering for you. Period. You're a crater faced, failed and frustrated musician and wannabe skater who hangs out with underaged kids in the neighborhood, you used to get high with them, you have VERY SUSPECT tendencies when you get wasted, and you have no balls so you take out your anger on this kid who had nothing to do with you or the argument you were in with his friend.

Just days before this, you are online commenting on other self defense murders saying "good, glad he killed him. F*** kids now a days. They're not the same. He deserved to die."

JOE GILL, YOU STABBED AND KILLED A KID AND DIDN'T HAVE TO PROVE YOU WERE DEFENDING YOURSELF. WHO GETS THAT TREATMENT?

Now you live in Echo Park and you're chillin thinking things are good? Pfffff kid you're high.

joeisapussy
joeisapussy

 @joegillalkaline i cant believe ur not in jail rite now u took my bestfriend away from this earth ...i hope u feel ashamed u piece of shit

JWalwayswithus
JWalwayswithus

 @GGresident  Fuck you man. You are probably just as much of a coward as this Joe person is. Do you not understand it was pointless for anyone's life to be taken that night. This man couldn't handle a confrontation with a bunch of kids, KIDS, and so he pulls out a knife and ends it like that, and you are telling me Jeremy is the guilty one? We can all admit it wasn't the smartest move, but have some sympathy, you fuck.

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@GGresident @gutierrez.christen Christen I'm sorry for your family's loss. No family should have to lose a child. Please do your best to be strong for your family and speak civil as opposed to yelling at people. These comment areas are filled with people who have a chance to say something they wouldn't dare say in public or to anyone's face. They are safely at home or work where they can say anything and not feel any guilt for it. And chances are they haven't had to bury their son or daughter. These people are called trolls. They say anything with the safety of privacy. I read the article this morning and I just can't believe this guy has been set free. Even for now. Anyone who takes a life must go through a fair hearing to justify their actions I believe. And obviously Garden Grove PD didn't make public the fact that they had a run in with this guy minutes before the incident because he was arguing with another neighborhood kid. They let him go free drunk, under the influence of medication, with a knife and pepper spray on his bike. Why they want that fact hidden is beyond me but it's out there now and I hope this brings things into perspective for everyone. I know if this happened to the son of anyone in GGPD, or GG Resident^, they'd make the facts public and let the system handle the outcome. In this case, the PD might have dropped the ball and need to back track and get this guy back in custody. Horrible mess. I pray for the family of this child.

gutierrez.christen
gutierrez.christen

 @GGresident I dont think so cause i know they where not following him around they are not like that they where walking to a completely different location they had places to befriends to go see i was one of the i was suppose to be there that night and i myself have crossed pathes with joe hes a lame and always drunk in public and always trying to fit in with the younger kids hes old enough to have his own job, family kids my 16 year old friend had more going on in his life than joe hes a no life my beloved friend was in his prime hes fucken 16 thats young at that age you wanna have fun an have guts to speak out to joe its Joe who should have been the man and keep riding his bike home after being already stopped by the police be logical when you come at me and feel sorry for me you will never feel how i feel never even if you lost a close friend JEREMY IS JUSTICE HE HAD TO DIE TO CHANGE JOES LIFE ! maybe joe will stay home now and start thinking like an adult and providing for himself sell that bike get a car like come on man who are you to say "oh he had it coming shouldn't be out late or shouldn't be looking for trouble"  Hes 16 six TEEN what you do when your a teen mhh ???

you go look for trouble ! no shit !! man i can go on for day i can make a book on what happen an write to people like you !

FuckJoe
FuckJoe

 @steve hey pussy I hope the system puts your ass in jail

Mitchell_Young
Mitchell_Young

 @steve "Who let's their kids run around at that time of night?"

 

Mexicans?

blessedwith2
blessedwith2

 @peacefulprayers You are correct! This is America where stories like this make news and ends careers…but ONLY when people like you are willing and brave enough to take a stand and do the right thing! It is great that you are keeping everyone updated by your posting here, but have you considered taking your information to the people who can actually do something with it, the District Attorney? I’m sure that the family does find a ray of hope when they read your postings, but what you have to say on here will not hold up in a court of law!

It breaks my heart to  watch my friend grieve without ceasing and to know that there are people like yourself who are out there with this type of information just sitting on it! I would think the DA would love to have the names of Jose’s so-called friends from NB that you mentioned he was bragging to. I beg you to be willing to come forward… reach out to the family or myself with the names/numbers of these people so they can be questioned. Do the right thing! Help this family get justice for the son, Jeremy!

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@justj4jpromise you are correct. And all this will come out. Investigators who have their name tied to the case had long enough to make it right. And Joe Gill spills his guts to his room mates and friends the other day in Newport Beach and they gossip so much to other friends that THEY even say he got away with it like OJ. Joe even snitched out GGPD to his friends, thanking them for helping him out and says to his friends that he went to jail for murder... for a day. He's snitched out the investigators too and GGPD to his own back stabbing friends. Its a small world and 6 degrees of separation is so true. AND his friends tell us that he has a Facebook page where he pretends to be a woman.

The murdered child's parents have done nothing but mourn their loss, which is totally humble of them. Meanwhile, GGPD is telling store owners who hang flyers up for the family's fund raisers, that the store owners are choosing sides if they hang up their flyers.

Done. This is America and this makes the news and ends careers.

justj4jpromise
justj4jpromise

@peacefulprayers The GG Investigators need to be questioned regarding their "investigating" I heard one of them fell asleep during their investigating process. Who does that? Doesn't anyone see Joe around his mother's house? Joe seems friendless and desperate for status and GGPD acted like his friend and made him feel important. Now every cop involved should be in panick mode or on thier hands and knees praying for forgivness! 

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

this is one of the comments @joegillalkaline deleted:

joegillalkaline said

peacefulprayers get a life !! you dont even fucking know any thing about me!!

gutierrez.christen
gutierrez.christen

 @GGresident Days*  (dont  poke your nose into a trashcan that's been shot into and has trash rotten in it ! ) im More than just a comment !

peacefulprayers
peacefulprayers

@Mitchell_Young @steve The kid was white, Joe is Mexican. Joe hangs out with kids and is known to contribute to minors. He's untouchable because of his family ties to police in Garden Grove.

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