Anaheim PD's Confidential Action Plan for July 29 Protests: Have Undercover Cops, Feed Tired Officers with Fancy Food, and Let the City Burn

goldencody

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Always remember from someone who knows first hand - Cops are bigger criminals than those they arrest! They break more laws than those they arrest! And thats a fact folks

etsnell

The officers deserve to get what they have been giving. Feed um beans and you know the rest

The police chief need to quit or be fired. But he must go.

He is really a Clown as we will all find out sooner or later.

ET Snell

Clown Community Activist

www.etsnell.com

Woot Icpninja

martial law

RJSteelworth

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Re the food: There was a huge protest in Seattle several rears bask. Officers were on the lines for extended times without relief. They were fed sandwiches that had sat too long and numerous officers became ill and had to be removed from duty. If you have to feed the troops it’s important to feed them with food that is properly prepared so as not to have officers become ill diminish the APD's ability to protect the city. Everything this writer described show that the department a well thought out response. No smoking gun here. Sorry OC Weekly.

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

@RJSteelworth Here comes the slurper!

RJSteelworth

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@GustavoArellano You are becoming so predictable. When you can't refute a statement with facts, you turn to the homophobic insults. Very telling as to what kind of person you really are.

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

@RJSteelworth Thoughtful people deserve thoughtful responses; pathetic fanboys deserve the laughable scorn they deserve. Slurp-slurp!

grodriguezlorenaa

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ernestogoldstein

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Violent crime in Anaheim jumped 10 percent last year and the number of murders nearly doubled, according to FBI crime statistics.

Whophantom

@ernestogoldstein

Does the increase in murders include the unarmed "suspects" APD shot & killed?

The late Chief Gates (LAPD) tried to fight fire with fire & it failed. U don't want Anaheim to turn into a L.A. do u? Time the City of Anaheim stop their racist law enforcement & communicate with the community. The community can help but, not when APD treats every person of latin descent like they are criminals.

OpAnaheim

https://anonfiles.com/file/10a433aae717518b5353ed6b73af46b9

ltpar topcommenter

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A very slanted and biased article by a writer who is clearly Anti-Police. Everytime law enforcement deals with a civil disturbance they do a post event debriefing and analysis, learning from situtations experienced. This goes for major incidents such as the Los Angeles riots where burning, looting and general maham took place to lesser events involving peaceful and lawful demonstrators. Then, when planning for an upcoming crowd control event, intelligence is gathered on who the participants will be, organized groups likely to be involved and their past history of violence. The Plan is then designed covering all contingencies including; yes, even the feeding of the Officers who are on the lines. A determination is made as to the number of people needed to work such an event in addition to the normal Police patrol throughout the city. If outside law enforcement Officers are needed, they are requested through a countywide Mutual Aid agrement. If mass arrests are anticipated arrangements are made with the Sheriffs Department to roll out their mobile booking units. Plans to deal with civil unrest are a refined art by most major law enforcement agencies throughout California and are not just some wily nilly fire drill thrown together at the last minute. Of course, as we in law enforcement know, it is all to easy for the biased media, members of protest groups and the whiners of the commuinity to sit on the sidelines, second guess and arm chair quarterback what the Officers on the lines are doing. However, that is the nature of the beast and it comes with the job. Fortunately, most citizens understand what their Police Department is doing to keep their city safe from those who would like tto tear it down. In the case of Anaheim, looking at it from an outside view, but with expert knowledge, it looks to me like they did thier usual professional job. The citizens of Anaheim deserve no less.

Whophantom

@ltpar

Civil unrest is protected under the U.S. Contitution. APD wants a war with the latino community as evidenced by the military display of armor, weapons, snipers on roof tops, police officers in military fatigues, helicopters, under cover cops etc against unarmed citizens displaying their freedom of speech rights. We are not the enemy. "Plans to deal with civil unrest are a refined art by most major law enforcement agencies throughout California and are not just some wily nilly fire drill thrown together at the last minute".

That's what it exactly looked like!

mdwatkins13

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@ltpar Couple of questions, Since when did a protest become a civil disturbance? Are you really stating that the L.A. riots (it was really an insurrection against government as stated in many history books) stemmed from a peaceful protest? Who decides that any event needs crowd control? Who decides what intelligence is gathered and on whom? If police anticipate mass arrests does that bias the attitude and conduct of police action? EVERYONE SECOND GUESSES THE POLICE. It has to do with the guns you carry. The people who government represents are presenting a petition of grievances to there city council and there are riot police in front of them. It looks more like tyranny than justice. The police over react to everything in the name of "public safety". Public safety is not an excuse for police to do whatever they want, though it does seem to be an excuse to charge the city overtime and buy new police equipment. At the end of the day, this is all about money and the police union staying in power with city hall. Police power and money were represented at these protests and police presence squashed citizen complaints. Police making 6 figure incomes to beat up on city residents and shoot bean bags at them while charging them overtime sure sounds like corruption disguised with virtue.

noneedtoaggress

@ltpar What a joke. Poor officers with their job as professional government harassment.The police are the standing army the founding fathers warned about. They have no obligation to protect individuals (and they don't they just mostly exist to document the mess afterwards). They "serve" their customers in a violent monopoly which extorts payment by threats of violence while at the same time claiming to protect the same people they threaten for their paychecks.Not to mention with you tube and cell phone cameras it's becoming increasingly clear how absolutely corrupt policing is as an institution.If 'their usual professional job' is to waste taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary show of power, then you're absolutely right.

ltpar topcommenter

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@noneedtoaggress

Your hot air capacity is only exceeded by your ignorance, perhaps caused by sitting on your brain for too long. From your attitude, one may deduct your Anti-Police and Anti-Government philosophy. Those men and women in uniform whether it be Anaheim, Irvine, Santa Ana or anyplace else, do more for their community in a week than you will ever do in a lifetime. You like to take cheap shots at Cops and haven't a clue as to what motivates us. Still, the bottom line is that even though you may be a first class ass hole, the Cops will still be there to save your sorry ass one day, when the bad guys come and you are screaming like a little girl. Fortunately, 99.9% of the citizens are not like you, or there might not be anyone left to call?

mdwatkins13

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@ltpar That's funny coming from a guy who patrols a neighborhood he will never live in. As a cop sucking on the government tit (your motivation) and probably living in a gated community in a different city, how ironic is it that you tell others the neighborhood you patrol is safe and yet never live there. Put your ignorance away and understand that when the bad guys come they won't be in your neighborhood because you make enough money to not live in the ones you patrol yet you will take the money from that community. Anti-Government sounds like a republican mantra of "starve the beast", lets start with the police.

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etsnell

@ageofknowledge Your a fool for believing we are all fools. No one gets a blank check

pfailblog

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Well, actually I witnessed a very violent arrest of a man who was carrying a sign that showed an image of Micky Mouse and read, "Hey kids, check out my military police." A plain clothes officer tackled him to the ground after he bent down to snap a photo with the police. I watched the officer use his baton to beat the arrestee over the head in a jabbing motion, as if he was trying to stab the man in the head. I also witnessed more than one mounted officer hit people with their hands and over sized wooden swords. The police were not peaceful, and did not work with restraint. The protesters, however, did not act with an ounce of violence.

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GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

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@ageofknowledge @pfailblog Um, they killed Diaz in broad daylight, but feel free to mangle facts with your Linda Lovelace approach to the police!

ernestogoldstein

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@GustavoArellano The guy was a gang banger and career criminal, so no loss there...

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mdwatkins13

"When you look at the facts through a clear lens (rather than a brown-tinted La Raza lens), it's clear to see there is no justification for rioting and the law abiding respectable people of Anaheim (whom are by far the majority of the residents) are not involved in it."

AGEOFKNOWLEGE, instead of simply correcting the time differential, you are using it as a springboard to engage in ad hominem. That behavior reflects poorly upon you as a person (your maturity, character, etc...) but you as a RACIST PERSON in my opinion.

FIXED.

"There are federal and county investigations underway into the recent Anaheim police shootings that killed two Latino men over the July 21st weekend. The Anaheim Police Department has its own investigative process, but it does not have a citizens’ board to review police actions."

"The FBI is also investigating the Manuel Diaz shooting. He’s the unarmed man shot and killed by Anaheim police July 21. The next day, another man, Joel Acevedo, was also killed by Anaheim police."

-http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/08/01/33559/anaheim-police-internal-investigation-diaz-shootin/

"Diaz's family sued the city and the police department on Tuesday, claiming he was shot and killed Saturday while running away, lawyer James Rumm said. The family is seeking $50 million in damages.

-http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57480409/manuel-diazs-mom-condemns-anaheim-violence-in-protests-against-fatal-police-shootings/

Sounds like everything is A-OK over at the anaheim police department, you know as an outsider looking in I can tell you this appears to be a well contained situation. *Sarcasm end.

boutdabidnis

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@ageofknowledge

ageo - arent you just repeating the officers accounts? Those are not FACTS either, just justification through Blue Tinted Lens.

anon

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@ageofknowledge If you are looking for unbiased you are in the wrong place.

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

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@anon @ageofknowledge Yeah, all we write here are truths that annoy the fuck of pendejos, pedophiles, and Know Nothings alike!

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

@ernestogoldstein @anon No, I just write truths. Which one of the lot are you?

ernestogoldstein

@anon Notice how Gustavo Arellano resorts to name calling like a WHINY THIRD GRADER...

anon

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@ageofknowledge @GustavoArellano People who disagree with the benevolent Gustavo are pendejos, pedophiles, and Know Nothings. Stay classy Gus!

JamesRobertReade

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I prefer chicken en mole! Thank you Anaheim Police! Your department is incredible! Now my Mexican friends can walk to the markets without being accosted by gangbangers. The spirit of Daniel Rowlett will continue to guide us in restoring safe neighborhoods to Anaheim!

boutdabidnis

@JamesRobertReade

Mr. READE you sir are a complete JACKASS!!!!!

JamesRobertReade

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@boutdabidnis At least I am not an incomplete JACKASS!!!!! James Robert Reade

20ftjesus

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"...let the city burn" is a preposterous title. How absurd. You, OccuBrandon, stretch credibility like a rubber band on the head of my pen15.

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

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@20ftjesus ...except it was the Fire Department who said firefighters should let buildings burn, not Brandon.

20ftjesus

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@GustavoArellano Perhaps the truth is more in the middle, "Utilize 'Hit and Run' firefighting," the report stated." Limited or no interior attack on structure fires." I think we can agree the FD had to balance protecting property versus protecting their own lives against gang violence.

20ftjesus

@GustavoArellano I guess we're reading the same thing differently, "Limited or no interior attack" does not mean "let it burn to the ground" nor does it say they shouldn't spray the outside of structures, roof, walls, etc.

GustavoArellano moderator editortopcommenter

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@20ftjesus But a riot is different from gang violence, and last I checked, letting a building burn means a building burns down.

nobody

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Not surprised at the overreaction.

ernestogoldstein

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Thank you Anaheim PD for your hard work. Please prosecute to the fullest career criminals such as these gang bangers and drug dealers. Excellent work in Operation Halo. As a tax paying and law abiding citizen, I fully support the use of force on lawbreakers and those here illegally.

MeToo.

@ernestogoldstein And if a few law abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right of free speech get their skulls bashed in during the process so be it. I mean how dare they actually think the can "voice an opinion" in public like that. Shameful. (You forgot that part.)

MeToo.

@ernestogoldstein Not that happened mind you, kudos to APD in that respect. just continuing the tome of your comments is all.

ernestogoldstein

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@MeToo. Yes, kudos to the Anaheim PD for TAKING OUT THE TRASH!!!

cynthia241

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Brandon, I do not even want to know how you got that report, but kudos to you for the investigative journalism. However....as a resident of the area that became a war zone on the 24th, I am damned grateful that APD was over-prepared. Chief Welter is not an idiot, and it is clear that the Feds were also feeding our local units with information and tactical plans. If APD was that prepared, it was due to chatter from protesters who were actively planning online via twitter etc to become much more aggressive than they did eventually become. Anaheim is no stranger to heated issues, and we have (usually) handled them peacefully in the past. But when outside groups make threats against the families of officers (did you get that info too?) and even against Police Canine units (what kind of pond scum threatens a dog?) then there is a sense that these people are not playing within the rules of polite society, and may require additional effort to ensure everyone is safe. In the end, none of that power was brought to bear on citizens, anyone expressing themselves, (even obnoxiously) was permitted to do so, and the only arrests were of those who were up to more than meets the eye. What I am incredibly pissed off about is the gourmet food trucks. That staging area is right up the street from my home, and I can tell you that Carl's Jr., an Anaheim based company, is RIGHT THERE. They have food trucks too, if those were needed, it at least would keep the investment in the City, God knows we are already tanking money over this nonsense. As far as the Police response, they were much more controlled than I would have been. I was in the middle of that thing, some of those protesters were real tools, blaming all officers for the actions of a few, ( I don't deny APD has some real jerks on the force) but frankly if those thugs had been in my face to the level I saw, I fairly certain I would have lost it on them. Every one of the cops I saw behaved with incredible self-control and restraint, if they wanted to screw with people just for the fun of it, the circumstances would have made it easy. But look at how few arrests were made. That is not law enforcement out of control, that is quiet confidence knowing they can handle anything that may come up, and showing restraint in not using the force that was gathered. On the other hand....I do want to see the rest of the report to see how our money is spent. Just make sure to redact private info please, we have too many families of cops exposed as it is.

gabrielsanroman topcommenter

@cynthia241 Wow, Cynthia, you're pissed off about there being no western bacon cheeseburgers at the command center!

cynthia241

@gabrielsanroman Ah, you know my anger is never limited to only one nuance of a situation, that just happened to be what jumped out in the first of Brandon's ongoing posts. But if you want to know...

I am pissed off that a handful of ill-bred assholes (I have become such a potty-mouth) intent on destruction turned my neighborhood into a boarded up war zone, to the point that taxpayers were forced to feed overpriced sushi to those responding to the aftermath that thankfully never materialized. Has it occurred to anyone that the demonstration was not as destructive as predicted may be BECAUSE of the Police presence?

I am pissed off that those same ill-bred assholes co-opted the opportunity for constructive discussion about an issue that does need to be addressed. While most cops are good people, there are always some bad eggs in the bunch, I have encountered them, and something needs to be done. But there is this all-or-nothing attitude, if you even hint that a fallible human being who happens to be wearing a Police uniform may possibly have been...well..a fallible human being, you are vilified for "not supporting the Police."

The other extreme seems to be wearing a mask over your face and screaming obscenities at officers on the street who in all likelihood have nothing to do with the incident you are pissed off at.

When may we meet in the middle? This latest round of shootings finally gave us the opportunity to admit (as our City Council did) that we need someone from the outside to look at what is happening and see if we need to rework something. It is very likely that the force needs some changes, but it is hard to get public pressure behind that demand for change when all the public sees is a masked punk throwing rocks through the window of a merchant with no connection to the shooting, or a tattooed thug screaming "F$#k the Police!" into a bullhorn.

So I guess I am pissed about more than bacon western cheeseburgers, but you did ask.

gabrielsanroman topcommenter

@cynthia241 Actually, I didn't ask, but I did find that point of initial outrage interesting. As to everything else, you make it seem as if the 'unintended' overreaction was actually warranted. It was effective, but not in the simplistic terms you lay out.

The constructive discussion you feel was so thwarted wouldn't have even included those you accost, anyway. You're on #TeamTait and believe that Curt Pringle killed off 'community policing.' Why then, does Tait (and others) extol the current chief as one of the nation's sages of the practice?

rotoro91

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@cynthia241 @brandonf76

Allow me to participate in this conversation. For more than 20 years I have been a quiet Anaheim resident, and appreciative of the services that the City provides through its departments.I do not like the increased crime rates in the city, and I do not support the gang culture. The latest fatal events triggered my outrage as a citizen, not against APD, but against our civic leaders.The so-called "barrios" are not new, and as a diverse community, adequate policies are needed to address the challenges of these neighborhoods. Although the Major displayed leadership in these events, the majority of the Council did not.

Nobody likes the violence and cost of some major demonstrations. When I participated in the silent march, I overheard a gentleman concerned about the Occupiers. I asked him why, as I think the OWS movement has raised fundamental issues regarding our current problems. He said because of the violence, and I agreed on that point. However, unfortunately some situations are inappropriately handled, and make things worst. Our taxpayers monies were used to bail out the banks, housing and automobile industries. Our taxpayer monies have been used to finance questionable wars. Maybe there is a connection between these issues and our problems with gangs, immigration, unemployment, teen pregnancy, health care and son. Democracy is sometimes costly but worthwhile.

cynthia241

@brandonf76 The cops were certainly a presence at City Hall, but they were totally stoic, I was there the 24th too, remember? It was not until people were forcing their way into the already full Council Chambers and blocking fire exits creating an unsafe situation for everyone in the building that they pushed the crowd back out the door. Outside they maintained a wait and watch attitude until the crowd blocked the street and were getting aggressive with people in their cars (I had a friend caught in the street after dinner, and the fear they felt was very real) are the Police supposed to stand back and let thugs smack fists and traffic cones into the cars of people who are merely trying to get home? Gimme a break.

I do not like that the Police shot at bystanders including media flashing their press passes, but again, how do we get public to focus on those PD issues when the face of who they are against is a crowd that makes the average citizen's blood boil? The bad behavior ensures that nobody will hear the overall message.

brandonf76

@cynthia241 @gabrielsanroman Or Cynthia, the argument could be made that the situation on July 24 boiled over after police aggressively raced in to protect fancy downtown properties. A few nights earlier, when people were lighting dumpster fires on Anna Drive, you can be assured the police took a watch and wait attitude.

rotoro91

@cynthia241

I do not blame them for not having the Carl's Jr truck...what about having had the luncheras trucks from one of our neighbors , or Pollo Loco from one of Mr Shidu's franchises? I highly value the "protect and serve" mission of our police departments. The crime-mapping e-mails I receive daily paint a troublesome picture of my surroundings in East Anaheim. The causes of the problems we are experiencing are complex. The rules of a polite society also apply to everyone one of us in the community, and to our political leaders. Inadequate policies eventually create negative responses. We are not immune to the housing and financial crisis, unemployment , health insurance and many of other current problems. The higher level of gang activity and the APD response require a serious debate, The majority of the City Council members have failed to meaningfully address the problems and solutions. The current system of electing the council is obviously a problem in today's Anaheim. The district's concept, endorsed even by Disneyland, is a worthwhile attempt. Ms Murray, with whom I walked in the silent march, should have supported the Major's proposal as a act of good faith to promote reconciliation in our City.