Was an Orange County Judge Too Harsh on a Methamphetamine Addict/Dealer?

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Ableman: The Meth made me do it
Karen Dee Ableman might be the face of this nation's "war on drugs."

Ableman has five criminal drug convictions and, until recently, been sent to prison four times.

The incarcerations, though surely painful, weren't experiences painful enough to break her habit.

In 2008, the methamphetamine addict/dealer pleaded guilty to two more cases involving the sale and transportation of the nasty toothpaste.

Though her co-defendant in that case is, according to federal court records, a member of the Romanian mafia in Southern California, Orange County Superior Court Judge Thomas M. Goethals was willing to give her a break that suspended a new 12-year prison sentence.

All Ableman had to do to keep Goethals generous deal was to stay clean for three years.

She couldn't do it.

In 2010--seven months before her probation period was set to end, authorities found her with a stash of meth. Goethals imposed the original 12-year prison sentence.

Ableman appealed. She believes that the prison order was unfair and that she should have been placed back on probation.

This week, a California Court of Appeal based in Santa Ana considered Albeman's complaint and, after noting that Goethals had been clear about the consequences of violating probation, rejected it.

Upshot: The 50-year-old remains locked inside the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla to serve her sentence.

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If you ahte freedom then you have to love the war on (some) drugs.


All you who are so quick to judge- you do realize that incarcerated drug addicts are able to get more and better quality of drugs in prison than outside...? Because the corrections officers/ prison guards/ jail guards don't like to have to deal with a bunch of addicts going through withdrawal.

Unfortunately the war on drugs is a huge and expensive joke on the rest of society. Do a google search of corrections officers/ prison guards caught bringing drugs into prison to see a list of those who got caught. Most of them don't. The state prisons get paid by the federal government for every bed that is filled with a drug addict. There is zero incentive to 'rehabilitate' addicts.


Nothing like a five day meth binge. . .

I miss the 90's.


Sorry, I have no sympathy whatsoever for those who, for whatever reason, get addicted to illegal drugs---especially meth.  The damage that these people cause to those who must suffer with their buffoonery, criminality, irresponsibility and wanton stupidtiy is incalculable.  


Less damage would be done overall if that woman would just OD and die.  I know it sounds cold, but so be it.


@TLC12 She's a wonderful woman who is now clean and has put her life back together despite pervasive drugs.

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How much sympathy do you have for the millions who get addicted to LEGAL drugs ??


 @ageofknowledge  @normajeanalmodovar and you know this how? Perhaps you 'read' about it? Or were you incarcerated so you directly observed this? Well, I was incarcerated for 18 months at CIW and then CRC (for writing a book about police corruption- as detailed in the interview with Ed Bradley on '60 Minutes') and there were all sorts of drugs being brought into the prison by the COs. 


The reason that inmates may test at a low rate on any given day is because the male  CO's offer to give them a clean urine sample in exchange for a BJ. While I was at work furlough, a CO offered me the same deal- except that since I have never done drugs and was not required to give a urine sample, that offer was declined. He did however come up with another offer to extort sexual favors from me.


Do a google search for guards bringing in drugs for the inmates. You might be shocked at just how many get caught... and since the majority do NOT get caught, there are plenty of others who bring in drugs.

And when I used to work for the LAPD prior to my making a career step up to call girl, I was unfortunately aware that the cops had a nifty little drug ring going where they'd stop someone for drug possession, search the vehicle, find drugs, confiscate them and then report that they'd found a fraction of what was actually confiscated. The drug dealer was not about to tell the judge that they had far more than was in the official report, so the cops had no worry about getting caught.


Then when they worked off duty for the movie industry, they could sell the drugs to the Hollywood types and it was all pure profit.  Also they offered drugs at their parties. Not much chance of getting arrested at a cop party. But apparently you have no problem with police corruption, police testilying and reportalying, and would rather live in your delusional world where the cops don't steal and sell drugs, and inmates are drug free. 


Very little.


Such a great "argument".  When you have nothing intelligent (read: relevant) to say, you attack the person.  Fallacy of an ad hominem attack.


Let me make one correction, however:  Not "very little".  NONE WHATSOEVER. Zero. Zip. Zilch.



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