Chalkupy Orange County: Is Chalking Considered an Illegal Act of Vandalism in OC?

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Police overreaction to chalk in downtown Los Angeles? (Occupy LA Facebook page)
The streets of downtown Los Angeles resembled something of a war zone during the Art Walk on July 12. About 25 members of Occupy Los Angeles brought chalk to the monthly event to spread awareness of over a dozen vandalism arrests of Occupy LA members for chalking the past month at their Central City Association (CCA) occupation dealing with homeless rights and gentrification in the downtown LA area. Art Walk attendees participated in chalking, which led to an increased police presence in the area.   

George Olivo from Occupy Orange County witnessed the scene firsthand. After riot police arrived, he said, about 500 attendees of the Art Walk gathered at the intersection of 5th and Spring. According to the Los Angeles Times, nine out of 19 arrests that night were for vandalism. At least three individuals were reportedly shot with rubber bullets.

It was when non-Occupy affiliated Art Walk attendees witnessed riot police presence and subsequent alleged violent arrests when things got out of control, Olivo said. 

"It was terrifying," Olivo said. "I saw women crying and hysterical. For a minute, it seemed like we were all going to die. I know that sounds extreme but when police are shooting, you don't know what's going to happen. It was horrible."   

Videos and blogs corroborate with Olivo's account of the chaotic scene, as well as a half-dozen attendees of the July 12 Art Walk OC Weekly has spoken to. Sources have told OC Weekly bottles were thrown by after-party goers and residents from high-rise apartments after riot police arrived. 

Since chalking arrests of mostly non-Occupiers riled up so many of our neighboring Angelenos that night, it has left many wondering: is chalking indeed considered illegal vandalism?   

Recently, Orange County residents have used chalk to write messages in Irvine and Fullerton as a result of the local Occupy and Justice for Kelly Thomas movements.

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Irvine City Hall, June 2012 (Photo courtesy of Jeff Swietlik)


One member of Occupy OC chalked "Long Live Occupy" in the front of the Irvine City Hall plaza last month, which was promptly washed off by another member. Supporters of justice for Kelly Thomas have chalked inspirational messages in front of a memorial at the Fullerton Bus Depot this summer, as well on the sidewalk in front of the PÄS Gallery.  

Fullerton Police Cpl. Tim Kandler told OC Weekly for vandalism charge to be considered, there would have to be permanent damage. Although this would be considered on a case-by-case basis, to his knowledge the chalk in front of the Kelly Thomas memorial and PÄS Gallery is not vandalism, since it is washable chalk.  

"If it's spray paint or something that permanently damages property, then you can get arrested for vandalism," Kandler said. 

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Chalking for Kelly Thomas
Irvine Police Lt. Julia Engen said arrests based on chalking in Irvine is situational. Engen said she can only speak of the chalking incident that happened at the end of last month by a member of Occupy OC, where no incident took place.  

"Could they have been arrested? Sure, they could have," she said. "But we were not standing over them, telling them to wash it off or we will arrest them. Because of our unique relationship with the [Occupy] protesters, one of them voluntarily washed off the chalk before there was any problem." 

Engen cited California Penal Code 594 as chalking falling under the label of graffiti. While Occupiers have cited a 1995 United States Court of Appeals court ruling where sidewalk chalking was not found to be vandalism, the state law has since changed to include any unauthorized mark on a surface you do not own; however malicious intent would have to be proved in court.   

Whether or not someone is a protester would not affect if an individual can be arrested for chalking as vandalism and in general the activity is not recommended, Lt. Engen added.

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Liberty
Liberty

 

It's interesting that Lt. Engen states "we were not standing over them" but the Irvine Police department is literally 30 ft from where the chalking pictured above was done.

 

Also, she states "whether or not someone is a protester" would not affect whether or not someone could be arrested for chalking.

 

A court in Orland recently disagreed with that assessment, and ruled that chalking for advertising purposes is different than chalking for political speech.  The court also found that chalking in front of city hall (virtually identical to the artwork pictured above in Irvine) is also free speech.

 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-07/news/os-chalk-protester-legal-bills-20120607_1_chalk-akerman-senterfitt-city-hall

 

Lt. Engen is doing the exact same thing LAPD is doing:  Attacking freedom of speech by trying to intimidate and bully those who exercise it.  Irvine is just at the stage where they’re still using words instead of rubber bullets.

Bill T.
Bill T.

The King Lincoln Bronzeville case is suggestive at best, still in the allegations stage. It'll be interesting to follow to see if it goes anywhere. Note that something more than anecdotal citations are required to establish a pattern. Even if the electronic voting systems are shown to be subject to misuse and fraud it would still need to be established that paper ballots are more accurate and secure. Choose your evil, y'know.

Bill T.
Bill T.

Rush, the leading expert in lying by telling just enough of the truth then shutting up (paraphrase of Heinlein, not original w/me). When he's not spouting an out and out falsehood, of course. He's an entertainer and folks mistake his show as an actual informational outlet, too sad. As far as the voting machines go, I'm kinda on the sidelines as far as an opinion there (I lean towards doubt that there's wide-spread fraud). Ballot boxes have a long history of being stuffed. No matter what system is used it's more about the controls than anything else. If you have evidence that they don't work I'd be interested to look at it to help me make up my mind.

Bill T.
Bill T.

Now there's a cogent addition to the conversation. Keep it up!

Bill T.
Bill T.

1.  Talk about clairvoyance, you have no idea how I may or may not be standing up for your rights. 2. I'm not convinced that the protestors cleaned up after themselves, I have seen evidence that is not as universal as you claim.

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

 You Ja Do, Mr. Blog commenter are the only real "Liberal Media".  Neo-Liberal Commercial media is all inherently dependent on the corporate sponsorship that they are afraid to offend and loose.  Their job is to maintain your faith in a culture of consumption and keep convincing  you of all the merits of "free trade" and liberal open markets for everyone without prejudice.  If the commercial media is pretending to be "liberal"or progressive in a socially conscious way it is for the sake of tickling your conscience and sense of belonging so that you can feel impassioned, involved and committed to your place in the progressive rat race.  So don't fall behind the pack now.  "Just do it".  

Occ-u-poo Sucks
Occ-u-poo Sucks

 Why? Why should there be? Tell your occupy friends to stop acting like a bunch of savages. And leave the "chalking" to children. Fucking nimrods!

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Chalking, pfft.  No wonder they don't have jobs -- they're still writing with crayons.  Stupid Occudummies. On a sad note, I miss Wally George. 

Burkey Devitt
Burkey Devitt like.author.displayName 1 Like

 Because the media isn't liberal.  I mean, if Rush says something, it quite often isn't true.  And that is one of the good ones, because all the wingnutters say it.  "the Liberal media." If the media were liberal, in fact if they were interested in covering relevant news all, we'd be hearing daily about the biggest industrial accident of our time, happening right now at Fukushima, where NHK (Japan news) said not less than a week ago that the crisis continues to unfold. Not hearing about that here is just one more reason to get in the streets. Oh, also, the voting machines don't work. they can be hacked and they aren't being audited properly after elections.  In LA they're using Ink a Vote scanners which were decertified and then mysteriously re-certified by the Sec. of State with no comments or information about whether the problem was fixed. See King Lincoln Bronzeville v Blackwell, the 2004 presidential election was hacked.  We are not living in the democracy or even the voting republic you think it is.  THAT is why people are in the streets. 

Bob Newman
Bob Newman

The 1% couldn’t be more thrilled that its most vocal opponents are distracted by nonsense like this. Time to put away the pup tents and the chalk and get busy!

Christine Love Adkins
Christine Love Adkins

Can you really arrested a 3 year old playing with chalk? How dumb. Go find real criminals

Matthew Bramlett
Matthew Bramlett

"Your honor, I repeatedly caught the defendant drawing pictures of trees and cats in front of her house. She is a menace to society and must be locked up."

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