Gary Stein, Tea-Bagging Marine Corps Sergeant, Coming to Buena Park!

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Sgt. Gary Stein has created a media stir with recent comments about Obama.
The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
will be holding a fundraiser tomorrow at the Knott's Berry Farm Resort Hotel. Proceeds from the event, which will also feature a talk by Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, will go toward educating sheriffs and peace officers on their ethical duty to uphold the Constitution. But the real story here isn't the irony of cops discussing the threat of government encroachment on civil liberties (an Oath Keeper favorite). Rather, the hook is that Marine Sgt. Gary Stein will be speaking at the event. Stein is a founder of the Armed Forces Tea Party and has been in the news lately for publicly declaring he would not follow unlawful orders issued by President Obama. A quick peak at the group's Facebook page shows an album full of satirical images of Obama and his allies as well as imagery pertaining to the hot-button issue of gays in the military.

 
The now famous Devil Dog, who's been a Marine for nine years, faces dishonorable discharge from the Corps for allegedly violating the Department of Defense directive pertaining to proper political activities for service members. Stein's inflammatory comments reportedly occurred during an online debate about the Holy Koran and whether NATO should allow trials for U.S. troops


Speaking to CNN's Erin Burnett in March, Stein challenged the Marine Corp's action against him on the basis of free speech. "Jut because I sign a document saying I'm going to join the military doesn't waive my right to interpret the constitution," Stein said.

But in an interview last month with CBS News, former Navy Officer and Loyola Law School Professor David Glazier said it's been established that free speech is usually surrendered when one enters the military. "Good order and discipline require the military maintain respect for the chain of command," Glazier said. "That includes prohibiting speech critical of the senior officers in that chain of command--up to and including the commander in chief."

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The Weekly was tipped off to tomorrow's event by a representative of the Oath Keepers, which is a self-described non-partisan association of current and former military members as well as peace officers, with the stated objective of fulfilling their oath to the constitution above all else. With all the issues concerning law enforcement and violations of civil rights recently, (cough, Fullerton) one hopes cops can indeed benefit from the education promised by this fundraiser. 

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Steve
Steve

There's not one damn thing Gary Stein did wrong.I've been in the army as well.If anybody has a right to speak out against against the President,it should be the military troops.The troops are the ones putting their lives in danger.I learned that the laws the military have, are just ways to make you one of their puppets.They don't want you to be able to think or speak for yourself.You  do not follow unlawful orders from anyone period.How many of you followed unlawful orders in Iraq to kill innocent civilians,anybody got a backbone to answer that.Your oath says you protect the people not a corrupt government.Governments can been replaced with better ones.Your own president Obama wants to execute 90% of the U.S. populations in Fema camps,your government calls these people the undesirables.Your own generals know about this.They're going to want you to follow unlawful orders to kill American citizens.Now get this in your heads that 90% is also your friends and family,the people you love.Now all of you retards ask yourselves this are you going to follow these unlawful orders.It's time for all the military branches to open their eyes and see the truth,like Gary Stein did.

jvillemannc
jvillemannc

As an ex marine, I am disgusted by the actions of, Marine Sgt. Gary Stein. You sign a contract and vow to defend the United States....Not to pick and Choose what you feel is okay....you have absolutely no knowledge nor comprehension of what the CIC knows. As much as I personally dislike,President George W.Bush...I would never have attacked him so publicly, as you have President Obama. You soon to be a civilian, Gary Stein, are a disgrace to the uniform, the United States Marine Corps, and to the Nation. I sincerly hope you are dismissed and branded as a coward and drummed out ot the USMC with a dishonorable discharge.

Dominique M
Dominique M

 Speaking to CNN's Erin Burnett in March, Stein challenged the Marine Corp's action against him on the basis of free speech. "Jut because I sign a document saying I'm going to join the military doesn't waive my right to interpret the constitution," Stein said.Limited idiots and simple narrow minded fool doesn't have the right to be a citizen. Our constitution was not written for interpretation by fools . It was written because of fools,

Dominique M
Dominique M

Disgusting foul mouth 26 year old sounds like a terrorist to me.  If anyone outside the military posted that on their Facebook and were promoted by the Muslim League to speak and make disgusting remarks about our President they would be arrested and charged.( free speech is a blanket for terrorists and guns). Its worse that he is in  uniform and is being praised by a group of anti-American anti- establishment idiots. These people are a law onto themselves and think they are entitled because they are so narrow minded, under educated. Anti social morons. Leave our country.

MaxLaw843
MaxLaw843

Sgt. Gary Stein deserves a Dishonorable Discharge for being dishonorable.  It is not WHO is the President of the United State, but the OFFICE that he should respect.  Silly loudmouth like him deserves all the USMC does to him.

Jim Gilchrist
Jim Gilchrist

I remember my time with an infantry company in the Marine Corps very fondly, despite the tragedies that came with that experience.  Although we Marines all had "opinions" we knew that our exercise of free speech was limited as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces.

Free speech is sacred ground, indeed.  But, so is the necessity of teamwork, especially in the battlefield, if military operations are to be carried out successfully.  Can you imagine one of the Navy Seal Team Six members declaring the raid on Osama Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan as an unlawful order and then encouraging others to declare the same? 

Rebellious conduct by military personnel is not the way to win battles or protect your fellow troops. 

I expect the Marine Corps to act swiftly and decisively against Sgt. Stein to remind all military service members that military service is not for everyone.  Coordination with the military chain of command is essential to maintain an organized and efficient fighting force charged with the responsibility to protect the interests of the United States of America.

Semper Fidelis,

"Corporal Gil"  USMC - Vietnam  1968 - '69Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

Teddi Norlin
Teddi Norlin

He DESERVES a BCD! My husband and 2 sons are United States Marines. This is absolutely appalling and disrespectful! I would venture to guess that many of the men and women in the military don't agree with Obama. However, it is against the law for them to speak this way about any President. Its not about freedom of speech. Its about obeying the contract you signed VOLUNTARILY!

WB
WB

I don't agree with this Marine one bit, but is an anti-gay slur in the headline appropriate?  Funny how homophobia is so vile in liberals' mind in one instance, but they use it to be "funny" in the next.

Jasonlrush
Jasonlrush

 Dominique,

Our constitution was written because of tyrants, not fools.  Idiots and narrow minded people have every right that I have.  All citizens are protected equally.

Jim Gilchrist
Jim Gilchrist

Semper Fidelis,

Give my best regards to your Marine husband and your two Marine sons.  That is quite a commitment....husband and sons all in the Marine Corps.

Jim Gilchrist

909Jeff
909Jeff

Exactly, When I was in the Marines I served under Clinton and even though I didn't agree with his politics and I thought he was a philandering piece of shit I didn't have the luxury to question the orders of my commander in chief.  

Also its in the oath you take.  I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Jesse
Jesse

I tea-bag my girlfriend all the time. It's not gay, it's great!

Paul Steven
Paul Steven

how is tea-bagging an anti-gay slur?  I mean, when i think tea-bagger, i think of the tea party.  not two guys.

Anyways...a dishonorable isnt worth it:  lose of GI bill money, cant own a gun, cant vote (basically a felony conviction), get a job, get a loan.

Jasonlrush
Jasonlrush

 Well hold on, Jeff.   You can't have it both ways.  You swore to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;".  Which means if anyone in your chain of command (domestic) orders you to do something unconstitutional, you are supposed to politely refuse to obey.  (I'm a Marine as well)

You do have to "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me", but only if they are legal order.  Any order that violates the UCMJ or the Constitution is an illegal order.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Everyone I served with who got kicked out were sent packing with "Discharge under other than honorable conditions" or a BCD (Bad Conduct) as the military knows the ramifications of a Dishonorable may not be fitting the crime.  

Here is a perfect example... to the lay person all he did was exercise his first amendment rights but according to the UCMJ he has violated several rules, freedom of speech is not a luxury you have in the military.  It would be a harsh punishment to essentially convict him of a felony for what civilians do on a daily basis.  So  if the weekly keeps on top of this (Brandon I'm talking to you) don't be surprised if he doesn't get a dishonorable discharge and gets a BCD instead.  

 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Whatever buddy... He's a seditious piece of shit and deserves what he gets.  In this day and age of the 24 hour news cycle and the president vetting every decision he makes through white house counsel, do you really think the president would give an order that completely violates the constitution?  This dude knew exactly what he was doing and if he were in my unit I would have been in the front of the line to "Police my own" you should know what that means! 

Jasonlrush
Jasonlrush

 Jeff,

 All he said was: " Stein argued he would not follow presidential orders requiring him to detain or disarm U.S. citizens or "anything else that he believes would violate their constitutional rights."

He said nothing bad about the president.  He simply stated, "If anyone orders me to violate the constitution (that he, I, and you swore to protect) that he would not follow that order."  Any order that violates the constitution is an ILLEGAL order...  We do not have to follow illegal orders.   I hate to point towards a movie, but do you remember the final scene of "A Few Good Men".  They were convicted of one count even though the colonel admitted to ordering them to commit the crime.  The marines knew it was technically against the rules, but they violated the rules under orders.  When you violate rules under orders you are still culpable for the mistake.  You are SUPPOSED to decline illegal orders.  Period.

Agremlin82
Agremlin82

When has any president done anything like that??  I'm retired army.  The guy was told to stop with the facebook comments.  THAT WAS AN ORDER.  HE REFUSED TO FOLLOW THAT ORDER, one of a few.  A marine is drastically more by the book than the army counterparts.  Even so, if we were given such an order, we stop it or expect to pay the penalty for our arrogance.  I don't think I can over emphasize to those who have never worn the uniforms, you cannot be in the military and choose which orders you're going to follow.  The guy took an oath, and then let his personal feelings override common sense.  All these people defending him forget that he's is or was a marine, and marines are expected to follow orders. The man's a moron.  He dug this hole and hopefully he'll be comfortable lying in it.  Its unfortunately he drug his family into this with him, and that's a true shame.  If he wanted to be a politician he shouldn't have signed up in the military.  E. Hicks, CW2 US Army Retired.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Jason, What do you Mean both ways?  I didnt write the oath of enlistment, and it doesn't provide a stipulation that allows you to pick and chose what parts of the oath and the UCMJ you wish to follow.

You as a Marine should know that when you take that oath its for respect of the office of the president and the document that puts the man there. Then you will realize that this Marine is in the wrong and in violation of the UCMJ, Sub chapter 10, articles 88 contempt towards officials, Articles 94 Mutiny or Sedition, Article 117 Provoking speeches or Gestures, Article134 General Article.

We as Marines enjoy the freedoms of the Constitution but we also voluntarily agreed to hold ourselves to the additional standards... And the violation of these standards carry consequences... Period.

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