Tensions Remain High at Anaheim Police Meeting Over their Killing of Martin Angel Hernandez

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Amber Stephens
A resident holds up a photo of Martin Hernandez
Two weeks after a fatal officer-involved shooting in Anaheim resulted in the death of Martin Angel Hernandez, the surrounding community once again came out in sizable numbers to express frustration. The setting this time was the Ponderosa Elementary School Library where the Anaheim Police Department together with the Orange County Human Relations Commission put out an invitation to hear a series of officer presentations in response to "concerns and to address the rumors" as it was put.

Family members of Hernandez were seated in the front row, people with protest signs lined the back of the room and the library was well filled over its stated capacity of 65 persons.
After a brief introduction by OCHRC's James Armendaris, Chief John Welter began to address those gathered. He offered a version by way of the Orange County District Attorney office's preliminary investigation into the circumstances of the night in question with information previously not made public. A call into the police department on the night of March 6 was referenced reiterating that five or six males were in the alley outside a white vehicle. A dispatch of two officers followed with a third volunteering.

"The officer that approached first came into the alley on foot and he saw two subjects, one on a bicycle, and the other on foot," Chief Welter said. "The bicyclist was riding the bike, the man on foot was running alongside carrying a shotgun. Both were headed westbound down the alley toward the officer. As the one on the bicycle passed, the one with the shotgun was still headed toward the officer." It wasn't at that point that shots were fired though, Welter says; commands instead were given.

"The man turned and ran the opposite direction," he followed referring to Hernandez. "The subject at some point in the alley turned back around west bound and it was at that time that the officer fired three rounds hitting the subject one time." Chief Welter stated that shots were fired from the distance and that a shotgun was recovered close to the body. He did not say at any time during the meeting, nor has the department in the lead up to it, that the weapon was pointed at any officer at any time.

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Amber Stephens
Chief Welter Addresses the Crowd

After other police presentations finished, people lined up to address law enforcement officials directly. Marla Ochoa-Perez, mother to Hernandez's two-year old son, went first. "Was it necessary for the police officer to shoot in the head knowing that there was possibly going to be risk of killing this person?" she demanded.

"The investigation from the District Attorney's office will determine where he exactly he was shot," Chief Welter responded, in part. "In the head!" numerous people angrily interjected from the audience, a point not offered up at first, but confirmed soon after. The tension remained palpable throughout. When the shooting was referenced at another time, people decried that Hernandez was fleeing and then surrendered.

Questions also surfaced about mounted cameras positioned on the alley, their whereabouts and what they show. "As far as the cameras go, the District Attorney, most likely, has those," Welter said. "I'll be very interested to know what the cameras revealed." Based on the preliminary investigation, he disputed claims that an assassination or an execution took place. The Police Chief also later readily admitted that he didn't know all the facts of what happened on the scene and was limited as to what he could say at this particular time as the DA is the lead office looking into the incident.

The frustration reached a crescendo when those in line turned their backs saying that they weren't being listened to and began to file out to chants of "What do we want? Justice!" They turned the corner of the room heading for the exit before eventually deciding on staying as a majority of speakers walked up to the mic to express their experiences of police harassment, profiling, and other grievances.

The meeting was originally scheduled to last only a hour-and-a-half, but the last person summed up his comments well after the last Disneyland fireworks could be heard. Three hours later, part of the purported objective of the meeting, finding common collaborative ground between the police and the community, was frayed at best. Fear and distrust, too predominate. Repeated references of the District Attorney's office's formal investigation being the final word left few reassured.

After all, during Tony Rackauckas' 13-year tenure, as the Weekly's line goes, charges in an officer-involved shooting have been pursued only once by the DA's office despite ample opportunity.

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56 comments
solisana811
solisana811

I love you so much uncle ❤️

We will get justice for you!

FTP!

Sad_girl219
Sad_girl219

I just wish I could have let him no how much I loved him I well never forget u babe. Ur babygirl

Gpcguyz
Gpcguyz

So many losers defending a street terrorist gangbanger and disrespecting the cops. I am glad the punk father of an illegitimate child who walks around alleys with a shotgun is dead.

Carlashworth
Carlashworth

The Rusty Kennedy who had the Fullerton Police Chief Pat McKinley serve on his commission as the only member of law enforcement. Google Pat McKinley, FFFF, Kelly Thomas, Fousesquawk if you want to see how Rusty handles the community's concerns about their respective police departments.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

other races have heroes that are inventors, nobel prize winners, etc.... and mexicans lionize ex-felons carrying shotguns.... aint mexican culture great?

Invest In Vinh
Invest In Vinh

I challenge all of you to go to this neighborhood and see the conditions created by your ignorance.

First and foremost it doesn't matter his status of a felon, parolee, or Latino man what happened was a cop killed a man! Don't stray away from the truth because of his back ground. In the past year (2011 for the dumb; you!) APD had killed four other Latino men with out justification. With these past few months of 2012 there has been 4 unlawful shooting  by APD to unarmed and unjustified shootings.

Last time I check the President has not declared Marshall Law.

Per the Law an officer can shoot or kill one unless presented with deadly or lethal force. Along with that the assalient needs to have fired first. This is to protect the people from misuse of police power. Obviously you all are condoning such behavior its only a matter when they shot people in a routine traffic stop.

Not only do you all sound ignorant, you all prevail in stupidity. I'm not sure if you had any formal education or higher education and if you have, my tax money went to waste and you wasted a space in the college that some one could of greatly benefited from. It is a shame that some many of you have an opinion about some one that you don't know and the information you have is from the media.

Step out of your "comfort zone," open your eyes, hear both sides, and ask yourself who is judging you for you to judge others!

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

The dead guy has a shotgun and is running in an alley and the family wonders why he was shot by the police?  They need to go back to school.

Marla: The answer to your question is yes, they knew that shooting at him 'might' kill him, but you have to understand, they WERE trying to kill him and deservedly so.   If the police give you a command and you have a shotgun, you have about 1-3 seconds to make a decision on whether you want to live or die.

Marla, you should really be asking why your boyfriend (and unwed father of your child) was running around in the dark WITH A SHOTGUN after being out of jail for less than 3 months.

What a joke!  THANK YOU ANAHEIM POLICE...I wonder how many lives you saved by putting this turd in the ground.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Gimme an f'n break, you got a Mexican running through a dark alley at night, with a shotgun, and people are complaining that the police shot him in the head?  What were they supposed to do, ask him to drop it nicely?

Justin Shane Hertl
Justin Shane Hertl

He knows.    

                                                                                   ..you too are in my prayers

Hooshang
Hooshang

 OMG a gangbangers?!?! strong werdz maaaan

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

Go to hell, Gpcguyz! It's 2012... Get in the now! Do you know how many "illegitimate" children there are now-a-days? So quick to judge someone but refuse to acknowledge your sins... The whole story hasn't even came out yet!

Hooshang
Hooshang

 zomg other races r gr8!!!

Krystalblue714
Krystalblue714

That's a bigot for ya... Any other enlightening comments, genius? 

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

And there's the Bullied Chinito, gone after so long! Killing Mexis in the emergency room, I'm sure!

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

For all the idiots that are making stupid comments and have no clue about the law regarding the use of deadly force.

California Penal Code 196.  Homicide is justifiable when committed by public officers andthose acting by their command in their aid and assistance, either--   1. In obedience to any judgment of a competent Court; or,   2. When necessarily committed in overcoming actual resistance tothe execution of some legal process, or in the discharge of any otherlegal duty; or,   3. When necessarily committed in retaking felons who have beenrescued or have escaped, or when necessarily committed in arrestingpersons charged with felony, and who are fleeing from justice orresisting such arrest.197.  Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person inany of the following cases:   1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit afelony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,   2. When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person,against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence orsurprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intendsand endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enterthe habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to anyperson therein; or,   3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of awife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of suchperson, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design tocommit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminentdanger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or theperson in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailantor engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith haveendeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide wascommitted; or,   4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways andmeans, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or inlawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preservingthe peace.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

speaking of ignorant, whats Marshall Law? is it penny marshall's private lawyer? or maybe its a new show on tv starring marshall faulk?  i think you mean martial law, but then again, you're a mexican so i will give you a free pass... you graduate grad school, congrats, amigo. lol

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

You have no clue.  The police do NOT have to wait to be fired upon to fire back.

James Miller
James Miller

He was a beaner.  Who cares if he's dead.

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

You could not be more wrong. Read 197 of the California Penal Code.

Krystalblue714
Krystalblue714

Sad to see that you display such hate and apathy to you 6 white children. I'd hate to see how they grow up! Most likely bound to join a white supremacy gang (Which to your dismay will make them gang-bangers now wouldn't it?) Keep talking and I guarantee you that karma will pay you a visit...

Javier Garcia
Javier Garcia

SHIT I HOPE YOU & YOUR WHITE FAMILY ROTT IN HELL... YOU FUCKEN PIEC OF SHIT! I'M ENGLISH & SPANISH SO FUCK YOU FUCKEN ASS-HOLE! THIS WAS MY FRIEND, I'LL APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOLD KEEP HIS NAME OUT YOUR GROSS MOUTH ASS HOLE! FUCK YOU!

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

What does the fact that they weren't married have to do with anything? Did you just feel the need to throw it out there? Do you feel better about yourself now???

Gpcguyz
Gpcguyz

As an Anaheim resident and taxpayer, I am very proud of the Anaheim Police department. This punk already had many chances to make the right choices in life. INSTEAD he chose to VICTIMIZE innocent people with his crimes. BURN IN HELL U PIECE IF CRAP! For the world AND YOUR SON (who u loved so much u spent only 1 night with in his entire life) are better off without u in it. LET ANGEL(LOL)'s DEATH be a lesson to all. CRIME DOESN'T PAY it gets u in a PINE BOX.

Xblue3yesx
Xblue3yesx

Every ten days anaheim pd has shot and killed another person in 2012... Each one is somebodys father, somebody's brother, or if nothing else - somebody's son. Do some homework and you will find out that most of anaheim's victims were unarmed and shot in the back. IF WE HAVE TO SEE OUR CIVILIANS GUNNED DOWN ON THE STREETS BY TRIGGER HAPPY COPS... I'D HOPE YOU'RE NEXT.

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

Like the report said " Chief Welter stated that shots were fired from the distance and that a shotgun was recovered close to the body. He did not say at any time during the meeting, nor has the department in the lead up to it, that the weapon was pointed at any officer at any time." How do you even know he had the shotgun in hand when he was shot? Does the fact that he was mexican give the police the right to shoot him in the head three times while he was surrendering? C'mon people!

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

They did ask him to drop, but he refused.

DARWIN.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

did you miss me?  btw, i know of a good plastic surgeon, just sayin.. haha

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

There they go correcting people's spelling again... 

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

Stupid racist dumb fuck! Keep your ignorance to yourself! You're no better than a damn nazi!

Carlashworth
Carlashworth

usually, Mr. Arellano, I find your comments to be rabid and hate-baiting towards Anglos. But after reading some of the comments posted here, your caustic remarks are justified by the evil in these persons' hearts.

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

Says the biggest piece of rancid pig shit! How dare you joke about a person's death like that! Do you not have any empathy or compassion? 

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

Let's talk FACTS, not gossip.  It is March 21, 2012.  This is the 80th day of 2012.  The Anaheim Police Department has NOT "shot and killed" 8 people this year.

If by "Civilians" you mean armed gang-bangers, I would not call the cops "trigger happy".

PLEASE refute my point by:

1. Documenting the names and circumstances of the 8 people APD has shot and killed since January 1, 2012.

2. Document that Angel was unarmed (even his "baby momma"--HATE that term---let's call her an "unwed mother" or now "unwed widow"or "unwed welfare case".

Have a coke and a smile.  

909Jeff
909Jeff

Well the two that have made the news this year both have involved people who were armed.. This one and the Filipino guy with a BB gun.  

Today we are talking about a convicted felon in a dark alley in possession of a firearm who refused police orders and ultimately paid the price for his shitty decision.  I dont see the issue... 

gabriel san roman
gabriel san roman

The public doesn't know what words were said during the command. The police presentations didn't elaborate on that. All that's known is that a command was given. The nature of it remains unknown at this time.

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

Racist slime... Sad to see what this world has come too... So unhappy in their own pathetic existences that they have to judge other people to make themselves feel better... Awww... Quite sad...

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

You are quite pathetic... Must give you great joy to talk down on people... What a loser...

909Jeff
909Jeff

And shut the fuck up???? 

Krystalblue
Krystalblue

You really need to get your facts straight before you place judgement...

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

My money is on "DROP THE WEAPON AND DO NOT MOVE"...he moved and got dumped.  No cop should have to wait to get fired upon or get shot or killed.  As far as I am concerned it would take the lives of 2-3 "Angels" to equal one civilian and one cop.  NHI in this incident.  APD did humanity a favor...sorry Marla, but your boyfriend was a turd.

gabriel san roman
gabriel san roman

 "You know what the police said to him."

No, actually I don't.

alvise giglio
alvise giglio

What the h*** are you talking about?  You know what the police said to him...We ALL do and none of us were there.   It is so obvious that why would the police "elaborate" on it.

Do us a favor.  Stop trying to blow smoke up our butt.   You know exactly what the APD said to this felon.  He didn't want to go back to jail after being out for only 3 years.

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