Are the Anaheim City Council, School District, and Union High School District Going to Get Sued into the City's Mexican Reality?

A fascinating article appeared last week in California Watch, the news non-profit with more than a few Orange County Register alumni in it. The story focused on the California Voting Rights Act, a fascinating piece of work that essentially tells public governing entities--city councils, school district boards, and the like--that their makeup better reflect the demographics of their respective ruling areas, or else face lawsuits forcing the creation of ward elections in the idea that minority candidates will be easier to elect that way instead of at-large elections.

Talk about a subversion of democracy! California Watch said they identified 34 cities in California with all-gabacho or one-token city councils in majority-minority cities, along with a host of other disproportionately-gaba councils, but didn't name one. It's okay, as we have one city ripe for such a lawsuit in OC: my beloved Anaheim.

Anaheim, of course, is now majority Latino, with a hell of a lot of Arabs and Asians and making gabachos its own distinct minority in the city. Yet taken together, the Anaheim City Council, Anaheim City School District, and Anaheim Union High School District Board of Trustees look like a meeting of the Balboa Bay Club--and it'll probably only get whiter this election. There's only one Latino on three boards: Los Amigos president Jose Moreno, in the ACSD. There's one minority on the AUHSD board of trustees: Anna Piercy, an African-American. The city council is the most diverse body, with the Filipina Lorri Galloway and Indian Harry Sidhu--but both of them are termed out this year, and expected to win one seat is the über-white, über-tool Jordan Brandman, an AUHSD trustee and Curt Pringle fave who'll probably be replaced by a gabacho--and the beat goes on.

Rumblings in local progressive circles say that a coalition of groups will sue to force the city council to carve its seats into wards, to ensure minority representation--and that the school boards will follow, whether by lawsuit or by volunteering...under threat of lawsuit. But don't worry, Jordan: the lawsuits probably won't come until after this election, ensuring that legacy gabacho nepotism will push you into your next rung.

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FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

I believe women are under-represented in government...but I wouldn't file a lawsuit to ensure fair political representation for my gender at the cost of the democratic process.

Vertov
Vertov

I'm digging how most of the comments so far involve Caucasian-based panic. Is it that hard to figure out that its strange that a school board, that most local of governments, does not reflect its own community? That its strange that while the majority of the city of Anaheim is non-white, yet its government is dominated by what appears to be an old boys' club?

If you lived in Aliso Viejo and, say, all but one of the city council members were, say, from Korea, wouldn't you find it peculiar?

I'm no longer surprised when I see white commenters here muse darkly about other ethnic groups, but I'm still puzzled by their blindness. They just assume that America is, and should be destined, to be controlled on all levels by people who look and think as they do. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

So let me try to wrap my head around this... 

The Majority of Anaheim voters are Latino or something other than white? They elected the city council and school board as they presently sit? Yet, they are now going to sue in order to better diversify the City Council? Dont you get the government you vote for?  At least in local elections? Who will represent the interests of the voters in Anaheim Hills?  

Typical Liberal Dogma... If you don't like election results... Sue!

mitch young
mitch young

I love this, because it is one step closer to whites waking up. 

Unlike the so-called 'Civil Rights' struggle, this has nothing to do with denying actual US citizens the right to vote. It is due entirely to the immigration of 'visible' racial groups into the US. We already know that, at the very best, immigration does nothing for the aggregate economic benefit of the receiving population (even libertarian economists say it is a wash, and realistic economists say it hurts the poorer folks). Now whites -- and blacks for that matter --will realize that immigration-driven demographic change just hurts them politically. 

One step closer to real immigration reform.

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

This could become problematic in terms of reverse racism--if there were not enough whites on the board. So i guess we need affirmative action in politics then? Put some less-abled bodies on the Boards to fill a quota? By the way, nepotism refers to family, not race.

Now why in the world is it that Mexicans don't hang out at the Balboa Bay Club???

Flat Butt
Flat Butt

They did name them. Look at the chart.

909Jeff
909Jeff

I would like to propose that we replace the current city council with a diverse group of ladies from Fritz's... EVERY city council meeting would be packed out! 

mitch young
mitch young

What is strange is that a successful, overwhelmingly white society, should allow itself to be turned into a non-white society.Why should, when the population is 2/3 white (and very recently 80-85% white), the immigrant flow be 90% non-white? It isn't like it even reflects the potential pool in the world -- Mexico, with less than two percent of the world population, gets 15% of the legal immigration slots.America was founded by white, European descended people It's success is overwhelmingly due to those people. Compare and contrast the 'Latino' countries to our south, There was, and is, no reason for it to have changed. After all, we put a man on the moon when we had something like 5% 'hispanic' population and 2% Asian population. Oh, we did have help from immigrants with the Apollo program -- German immigrants! 

mitch young
mitch young

It's not even 'the majority of voters', this so-called 'California voting rights act" goes by total population. Seeing as how a lot of the 'Latinos' are not citizens (whether here legally or not), or under 18, it is likely that many of the Mexicans who have occupied Anaheim are not even eligible to vote (yet). 

mitch young
mitch young

And maybe Anaheim Hills finally splitting off from the flatlands. Don't worry Gustavo, we can call it 'Los Altos de Anaheim'. 

mitch young
mitch young

Are you a white guy? I used to be one of those 'race-blind' conservative whites too -- 'race doesn't matter' etc. Then university, and the navy, and reading ethno-activists posing as 'progressives', like this blog's author, woke me up.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Geez, they could've made it a bit more prominent...gracias for the catch, will update...

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

No, Venetian Lounge...btw, LOVE how Mitchie is having a mighty bitch fit over this!

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

"Why should, when the population is 2/3 white (and very recently 80-85% white), the immigrant flow be 90% non-white?"

Because the massive immigrant flow of white people was nearly a century ago and the places from which they came have set up stable welfare states that don't encourage emigration to the United States.

You need to learn your history—before your sort of complaint, it was "those morally loose southern Europeans", and before that it was NINA—No Irish Need Apply—and before that the Germans and the Scandinavians were suspect.

Welcome to the world, mitch, where most of the world isn't white.

909Jeff
909Jeff

How does shit like this get voted into law? doesn't this fly right in the face of democracy? 

I mean, If this can get passed then why not a law that says property owners get 2 votes. Afterall, we have more skin in the game then a renter? 1 vote for being a citizen and a second to paying property taxes... How about if you get a vote for whatever city you own a business in?  

This is no more preposterous than forcing a city to diversify its council based on demographics... If the people want more minorities on the city council... ELECT THEM!

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Actually I'm European American.

Perhaps its time we sue local authorities for failing to enforce immigration?

Let’s take a quick lookat what south-of-the-border values have done to the city of San Fernando:

First, the mayor Mario Hernandezhas an affair with councilwoman Maribel dela Torre. Or there’s the police chief who was "onvacation"  who had sex with the police cadet, or there's the police dispatcher caught exposing himself, or Councilwoman BrendaEsqueda's conflict of interest votes on the police department while having asexual affair with police Sgt. Alvaro Castellon. 

 

Ummm… Decorum much?

Bienvenidos a mi México, amigos!

mitch young
mitch young

At least you are on the side of the Founding Fathers, Jeff, who did believe in property requirements for voting.

909Jeff
909Jeff

I can take your word for that... since his body of "Work" might suggest otherwise.  

909Jeff
909Jeff

"909 your idea of giving a citizen one vote and then a second vote for property tax payment is recockulous.  How is that representative government?  The renter shouldn't be given a voice?  Should we give the renter three-fifths of a vote?  Where have I heard that one before?"Right?  Its a terrible Idea... Just like forcing a city council who was elected by the residents of the city to diversify on racial lines to "better" represent its constituents.  If the Latinos in Anaheim want more Latinos on the city council.. elect them.  Forced integration has never ended well.  it creates animosity and perpetuates racism and bigotry.

mitch young
mitch young

Well Jim, it certainly seems you remember my valueless  posts, seeing as how you remember I do my own yard work.

But the last was a joke, in response to Gustavo's 'some of my best friends are [racial slur]s.  I've never de-thatched my very tiny lawn, but if I didn't I would do it myself. 

I have no problem discussing the virtue of 'at large' versus district elections. But AFAIK, this 'issue' has only come up because of ethnoactivists who are using the massive, immigration-drive growth of their ethnic groups to gain power. Well, if 'at large' elections dilute the 'ethnic'/'minority' vote, doesn't massive immigration which does not reflect the countries demographics dilute the white vote? If 'race doesn't matter', then why are these groups always wanting X,Y, and Z to reflect the racial demographics of wherever? 

And seriously, are you going to call CDC, or Pew Hispanic Trust, or  Center for Immigration Study statistics bogus? You might not like their slant, but I assure you that the latter group's work is as painstaking and valid as any the 'Pew Hispanic Trust' puts out. 

Jim Beam
Jim Beam

Mitch and his twisting of historical facts and narrow minded Orange County world view makes for bad comic relief.  Taking a post on dividing the city of Anaheim into wards, which is done in other large cities, to give voters from a certain area of the city a representative from their own neigborhood and devolving it into yet another rant on immigration.

The at large election elects the candidates with the most money, political party influence, and big business backing which could elect five council members from your beloved Anaheim Hills.  How does that represent the whole city and its diverse issues and population? 

909 your idea of giving a citizen one vote and then a second vote for property tax payment is recockulous.  How is that representative government?  The renter shouldn't be given a voice?  Should we give the renter three-fifths of a vote?  Where have I heard that one before?

The City of Anaheim should be divided into wards to reflect all the people that the city serves rather than a select privaleged few.  Mitch you always say that you take your perspective to get a "rise" out of people but really you are the one that seems to play into Gustavos hands because all he has to do is type Mexican in the title and you have to comment twenty times or more, share links to other pages, and share statistics from your favorite websites.  Sixty five percent of the people know that statistics are fatally flawed.  Oh and the last dig, I thought you did your own yard work and wash your own car as you don't want to contribute to the immigration issue.   

mitch young
mitch young

"except [your imaginary friend] Culichi isn't a homo-hating racist (some of his best friends are gabas!)."

I had a Mexican de-thatch my lawn -- is that close enough? And stop thinking about my ass, it gives me the creeps.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

...except Culichi isn't a homo-hating racist (some of his best friends are gabas!). And sorry, Mitchie, but Culichi is very real—I don't need a sock puppet to ridicule your pathetic ass.

mitch young
mitch young

There's your multi-millions -- Dave and Jeff -- strip clubs featuring blind girls.

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

I have no idea. I hate strip clubs. It's porn that can see you.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Sounds about right... 

mitch young
mitch young

No, I hadn't heard of Captain Creams. Personally, I find strip clubs pointless, why get all riled up with nowhere to go?

But I had to look this place up -- and it's history is hilarious.  Started out as a teen (under 21) nightclub (remember those? do they still exist? Then it became a Christian nightclub, then a strip club. Talk about evolution.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Sorry! I stand corrected! And of the two which one can you get the best lappy? 

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

It's on Katella, thank you. Flamingo is the one on Ball Road.

909Jeff
909Jeff

You had Captain Creams... I guess you didnt go enough... The best part was that when Capt Creams got shut down they sold the furniture... Who the hell would want a chair that was in a strip club that has years and year of snail trails on it?

mitch young
mitch young

Ah, for my north county (Anaheim Hills) youth! You'd think with all the money (not me)  in SoCo, we'd have a Spearmint Rhino at least.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Its on Ball rd in Anaslime and you'll pass it on the way to Disneyland...  I dont know if I'd even call it a "Gentlemans" Club not a whole lot Gentlemanly about it

mitch young
mitch young

Gustavo has retired his sock puppet.

I'm glad I don't know for sure what 'Fritz's' is -- shows I am of high moral character. (I'm assuming it is a 'Gentleman's Club'). 

909Jeff
909Jeff

For sure! then they can bring sushi with them! 

And Mitch is in full Mitch form... He's the polar opposite of Culichi67.

mitch young
mitch young

"Immigration is usually understood to be a function of benefiting the immigrant, not the receiving country."

By whom? Most open-borders proponents like to at least *pretend* that mass immigration is good for Americans. 

 And nearly every country's immigration laws give preference to arriving relatives of already-legal immigrants (or citizens). 

Perhaps immediate, nuclear family (spouses, underage children). But Australia and Canada operate mostly on a skills/education/English, French ability basis. Quebec has its own immigration policy to ensure French-language dominance. The UK is moving to a skilz basis. My reading of the Mexican 'Ley de Poblacion' also shows a bias for people who can help the Mexican economy directly (teachers, technical workers) or through investment and spending (retirees with their *own* source of income). Some countries that send us (and elsewhere) a lot of immigrants are openly ethnocentric in their immigration policies. China maybe, just maybe, allows some 'overseas Chinese' in. India has a 'brown India' policy. Desis down to 4 generations removed can get an 11-year Person of Indian Origin visa, basically on demand. No one else gets to immigrate to India officially.

"The immigration rate has been at or above 1M per year since 1990."

No, it passed 1M in 1989, 1.5 million in 1990, 1.8 million in 1991, all thanks to the first illegals amnesty, then it started receding, reaching recent lows of about .65 million in 1998 and 1999. Notice those were the 'dot.com' bubble years. The point is that immigration has nothing to do with economic demand -- but I guess that doesn't matter to you.'Where is Germantown?" 

Uh, Pennsylvania, because when there were German immigrants in any numbers, they did congregate together. You might have noticed 'Little Saigon', 'Koreatown', or even 'Irvine' --rapidly becoming sort of an upscale, boring Chinatown. And 909Jeff is banned from Glendale because of all the Armenians there.

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

Mexico is the closest country and the second-easiest one from which you could emigrate. Most Libyans who emigrate are trying to get to Italy; Zimbabweans try to go to South Africa.

Immigration is usually understood to be a function of benefiting the immigrant, not the receiving country. And nearly every country's immigration laws give preference to arriving relatives of already-legal immigrants (or citizens). The immigration rate has been at or above 1M per year since 1990.

If your point about the like national groups is true, where do the Italians live? Where can I find the French region in Los Angeles, or New York? Where is Germantown? Even the Russians along Fairfax have been dispersing.

Also, I am not German, my last name—which was assigned to my non-English-speaking grandfather by impatient immigration authorities—notwithstanding.

mitch young
mitch young

I put in paragraphs to make the above more coherent, but they were stripped. 

mitch young
mitch young

"European immigrants were the vast majority of the incoming people to this country until the Hart-Cellier Act in 1960-mumble."

1965. Didn't take effect until 1968. The flood didn't really build up until the early 1980s.But that number was sharply restricted from the highs of the 'glorious' Ellis Island era, which peaked at a million in 1910. In 1939, for example, about 83,000 immigrants were admitted. Further, if your grandfather was a German Jew, he benefitted from national-origins quotas, and these went by polity (and there were a relatively lot of Germans allowed under the quotas) and not ethnicity/religion. 

"No national quotas and a huge backlog of non-Europeans, and you're surprised at the ethnic makeup of the immigrant flow?"No, not surprised. I don't don't like it. Why should I? It's not like immigration is somehow representative of the world, as I said, Mexico, with 2% of world population (maybe) gets 15% of *legal* immigrants. It's a totally nepotistic system, aside from minor numbers of H1-Bs. In the arguments to Congress, the Hart-Cellar proponents insisted that  it wouldn't change the demographics of the country drastically. Obviously they were wrong, or more probably lying. Interestingly, before 1965 there was in effect no numerical limit on Western Hemisphere immigration, but immigrants from Mexico had to enter properly and show they could support themselves.My basic argument is that immigration should benefit US citizens, and that people do tend to group themselves (and vote for politicians) into like national groups. Politics is a zero sum game, therefore increasing one group via immigration hurts other groups. Indeed the LA Times story on this issue is feature not white folks getting demographically dispossed, but blacks in Compton and South Central. During the last four years, despite sustained, near record high unemployment and under-employment, we have allowed over a million *legal* immigrants per year. Why?

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

Your argument would work better if you weren't talking to the grandson of one of the flood of European immigrants who showed up on these shores at the outset of World War II—which was far past the Immigration Act of 1924. European immigrants were the vast majority of the incoming people to this country until the Hart-Cellier Act in 1960-mumble.

No national quotas and a huge backlog of non-Europeans, and you're surprised at the ethnic makeup of the immigrant flow?

mitch young
mitch young

Well, that was messed up. Anyway, just Google 'welfare use' 'immigrant-headed household', and it pops right up.

mitch young
mitch young

I agree with that too, Jeff. 

http://www.cis.org/immigrant-w... is the 'hate' group, Center for Immigration Studies with the data===Immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, even before the current recession. In 2001, 50 percent of all immigrant households with children used at least one welfare program, compared to 32 percent for natives. Households with children with the highest welfare use rates are those headed by immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (75 percent), and Ecuador (70 percent). Those with the lowest use rates are from the United Kingdom (7 percent) [go white folks! --my], India (19 percent), Canada (23 percent), and Korea (25 percent). The states where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62 percent); Texas, California, and New York (61 percent); Pennsylvania (59 percent); Minnesota and Oregon (56 percent); and Colorado (55 percent). We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children===Some studies have suggested that as many as 40% of some Ellis Island-era immigrants from selected countries (particularly Italy) gave up and returned to their homelands. There was, of course, no welfare state back then.

909Jeff
909Jeff

You completely missed the softball there...  "welfare states that don't encourage emigration to the United States"

So now we have a whole group of immigrants flocking en masse to suckle up to the teet of the US taxpayer... And as that tax payer if I dare suggest that i don't want my money spent that way i'm called a racist... And the entitlement programs keep piling up.

This was a study by the Heritage foundation... 

Only half of U.S. citizens pay federal income tax, according tothe latest available figures.

In 2009, just 50.5 per cent of Americans paid any income tax to thefederal government - the lowest proportion in at least half a century. In 1984, the middle of the Reagan era, 85 per cent of Americans paidfederal income tax, meaning just 34.8million people did not.

The Heritage Foundation argues that the reduction in the number oftaxpayers will create an electorate dominated by non-taxpayers, who will alwayssupport higher taxes and spending because their own money is not at stake!

An Electorate dominated by non-tax payers... There is no other way to say it except that fucking scary!  

mitch young
mitch young

"Because the massive immigrant flow of white people was nearly a century ago and the places from which they came have set up stable welfare states that don't encourage emigration to the United States."

You are forgetting Eastern Europe. I spent a good deal of time there, at various places, in the late 1990s. Many of them would have liked to come to the US -- places like Ukraine and Moldova are actually poorer than Mexico. But our nepotistic immigration policy, based on nepotism and ethno-activist organizations like 'La Raza', drastically limited their ability to come to the US.

mitch young
mitch young

Actually, Dave, maybe you need a history lesson.

We stopped the immigration from Europe pretty much cold in the 1920s. Went on to have the 'Baby Boom', the 'American Century', grow a high paid middle class, put a man on the moon etc. All the while having low, ethnically balanced immigration. There is no more frontier, Dave, no more free homestead land. No massive railroads to build (can't even build high speed rail in Cali), no huge industries which require massive amounts of human muscle. 

mitch young
mitch young

Same with the overwhelmingly 'Latino' voters of Imperial valley -- I think 8 got something like 70% there.

909Jeff
909Jeff

"it is going to bite white 'progressives' on the ass, because on a lot of issues, their 'people of color' allies don't agree with the 'progressive' agenda at all."

Black voters in 08 overwhelmingly supported prop 8 (Something to the tune of 70+%). The Democratic leaders that they elected vehemently oppose prop 8... Without arguing the merits of the prop, there is a complete disconnect of representation.  And the liberals don't care that they are alienating the voice of a block of minority voters because the Black voter will remain largely a Dem lever puller for the foreseeable future.

mitch young
mitch young

Well, first, anything labeled 'Voting Rights' or Civil Rights is sacrosanct, and gets an automatic pass. People are stuck in the 60s, even those not born there--because they've been subjected to 'Eyes on the Prize' since kindergarten. But unlike the south, there was little to no effort to discriminate against non-white voters in California. Indeed most of those supposedly being discriminated against weren't even in the country -- and have no ancestors who were in the country -- at the time of the 'Civil Rights' era. 

 All this so-called 'disproportion' and 'underrepresentation' is due to mass immigration -- legal and illegal. Another reason why immigration should be controlled, low in volume, and reflect the ethnic makeup of the country. It is certainly unfair to whites to continually stack the deck with non-whites. Funny thing is, sooner or later (I'll bet sooner), it is going to bite white 'progressives' on the ass, because on a lot of issues, their 'people of color' allies don't agree with the 'progressive' agenda at all. For example, Latino politicians will sacrifice the environment in a heartbeat if they can get some 'development' for jobs for their constituents. 

Dave Lieberman
Dave Lieberman

How do you figure "south-of-the-border values" have anything to do with it? Look at Fullerton, which is lily-white. Look at Huntington Beach—but then again, I guess embezzlement white-collar crime doesn't really fit in this argument. (There's a reason we always shout, "HAVE FUN IN PRISON!" when the HB politicians roll past in the Fourth of July parade.)

Shockingly, moral standards have pretty much zero to do with skin color or race.

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