Sheriff Joe Arpaio Says Obama Birth Certificate Forged ... and Orly Taitz Couldn't Be Happier

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Maricopa County, Arizona's controversial Sheriff Joe Arpaio--who has previously energized immigrant basher Barbara Coe--is now getting the hero treatment from another Orange County wingnut, Orly Taitz.

All he had to do was hold a press conference today announcing President Barack Obama's birth certificate and Selective Service cards are forgeries.

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Arpaio, the target of ongoing federal investigations into alleged civil rights violations, said a six-month probe by his own "Cold Case Posse" found that "probable cause exists indicating that forgery and fraud may have been committed" in the release of the president's long-form birth certificate.

The posse surmises the date stamp and the registrar's stamp on the birth certificate were imported from somewhere else because they were on different layers on the document and could be moved freely when opened in editing software. Arpaio's investigators also found the 1980 postmark had been tampered with on the Selective Service card.

"Based on all of the evidence, I cannot in good faith report to you these documents are authentic," Arpaio said at a Phoenix press conference, adding his posse believes "that the long form birth certificate was manufactured electronically and that it did not originate in the paper format as presented by the White House."

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"America's Toughest Sheriff" stressed that he is not going after Obama nor accusing the Commander-in-Chief of a crime.

That's what Orly's for.

""Arpaio confirms the evidence that I, as the only attorney, submitted to courts, elections boards and Arpaio himself-there is a probable cause to believe, that Obama's BC is a forgery," the Laguna Niguel attorney/dentist/real estate saleswoman writes on OrlyTaitzEsq.com.

However, the "Queen of the Birthers" adds that she is reserving comment until she reads all of Arpaio's report because, "I have been burned before."

Taitz issued the following all-caps plea:

I NEED HELP OF AZ SUPPORTERS TO GET 50 CERTIFIED COPIES OF ARPAIO'S REPORT. ABOUT 5 COPIES I NEED ASAP

She explains elsewhere on her site that time is of the essence because she believes Arpaio's report might be the evidence she needs to knock Obama off the Indiana ballot.

Fox News commentators may be quick to label CBS News as being part of the "lamestream media," but the fairness balancers were quick to post the Tiffany Network's video of the press conference on Fox Nation:



Rick Santorum has apparently met with Arpaio to go over the findings.

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ObamasFakeBirthCertificate
ObamasFakeBirthCertificate

 Washington has taken control of the media to prevent the truth from leaking out about the coup, cover up, and police state dictatorship. Obama is only acting as the president.

Montana
Montana

Mitt Romney’s Mexican father, hmmmmm…….Are the simple minded “BIRTHERS”, going to ask Romney for his birth certificate? We all know this was never about a birth certificate, if it was then these same people would be asking Romney for his. It’s about small minded people who hate African Americans and do not have the brains to review a President’s policy so they make something up.

Lets be clear none of these dullards have won a case in the “U.S. Courts”, maybe in their simple minds (if they have any) but not in our “U.S. Courts”, so unless Birthers/ teabaggers, whatever you want to be called, win a court case, we will continue to see as dullards, liars or racist or maybe all three. Deal with that baby! 

lb woodgate
lb woodgate

Why would the only law enforcement officer in this entire country who is a local sheriff in the state of Arizona who harbors anti-immigrant feelings and is himself under investigation into alleged civil rights violations be the only one, after previous exhaustive searches by others, to find that Obama's birth certificate and selective service card are possible frauds?

It's not rocket science folks.

Ron
Ron

I had no idea that Joe Arpaio was an expert on scanning software and document formats.

He's not? Oh well, never mind.

Tre Anthony
Tre Anthony

As Sheriff Joe Arpaio well knows, it is against Federal and State privacy Acts to disclose "investigative" material outside of law enforcement.  It won't be long before this Sheriff is relieved of his duties.  He has no ability to lodge any charges against Obama because even assuming the birth certificate or selective service card were 'somehow' altered; as long as it has not been used for an improper purpose that would otherwise violate State law there's simply no jurisdiction over the matter. Nor has a crime been committed, nor do they have evidence that Obama committed any crime whatsoever. The fact of the matter is if the Birth Certificate is not what it purports to be then perhaps the records in Hawaii are altered as well including the Selective Service records. I am sure the FBI conducted a thorough background investigation before Obama took office and if there were any questions about the issues people continue to discuss it would have been addressed at that level. Obvious there are no issues because Obama is still sitting President as he should be.

One other point is that this Sheriff risk criminal charges himself if he should violate the Privacy laws regarding disclosure of any purported law enforcement investigation pertaining to an alleged investigation regarding Obama or any other matters arising out of the birth certificate or selective service form. The Department of Justice will grab him by his nut-sacs and squeeze the shit outta' of them...LmAo...

Jn Brown
Jn Brown

so if their is probable cause why aren't they swearing out warrants?

trent1280
trent1280

It seems the deranged Leon McClure has been persuaded! 

Realizing that The Donald invested many thousands to get the goods on Mr Obama, and came up with nothing, Leon has agreed that there is nothing to the whole Birther crusade.

Otherwise, The Donald would have told us. He's not one to hide his lamp under a bushel.

Nor Leon, for that matter.

Well done, boy!

Leon McClure
Leon McClure

Fake and beyond the BC is just like this Islamic Marxist Traitor in Chief.  All of you Obama lovers are welcome to find the nearest cliff and take a flying leap.

Valbaby113
Valbaby113

Reiterated from below:

The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.The Naturalization Act of 1790 stated that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens"Statute by parentageIf one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen ifthe U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present" in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, andat least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthdayIn Wong Kim Ark the Supreme Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a man born within the United States to foreigners (in that case, Chinese citizens) who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States[23] and who were not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign power, was a citizen of the United States

MsDragonFire
MsDragonFire

Did anybody out there consider that maybe, just maybe, he had to prove his birth in America before he was eligible to run for the highest office in the land? I'm guessing that his birth certificate and all other requirements were scrutinized by the Secret Service, et al. This is another red herring by racists who still can't handle the fact that our President is half black. GET OVER IT & get ready to vote from your cast of clowns. Good Luck!

trent1280
trent1280

The crackpot Birthers are trying to support two mutually exclusive theories.

1. They want us to believe that Obama is a cunning tyrant, a devious agent of Islam who controls the CIA, FBI, and FEMA and commands them to do his fiendishly clever bidding; and,

2.  He is a hopeless idiot who steals multiple SSNs (never explaining why he needed more than one) and faked his own birth certificate with all the skill of a nine-year old.

CONSIDER:  why would the best black ops people in the federal government produce something as amateur as the crackpots claim?

This obvious contradiction is just one of many.

No wonder even The Donald huffed and puffed last April, and then gave up. He released nothing because he found nothing. And Orly Taitz, America's worst attorney, continues to lose EVERY court case she brings. 

It's more fun when the Birthers talk about Atlantis, Bigfoot, and space aliens. And a lot more plausible.

trent1280
trent1280

This sad effort by Sheriff Arpaio has been handled as badly as the 400 botched sex crime investigations for which he has apologized.

This Sheriff, engaged in a perpetual re-election campaign, has made a crippling mistake. He has associated himself with the most laughable cult in America -- the Birthers. They rank up there with Scientology, the Lost Continent of Mu, and the Westboro Baptist Church.

CONSIDER:  in April of last year, publicity-hound Donald Trump announced that he was sending his "investigators" to Hawaii. "They're gonna get the truth about Obama," he said.

Then, he advised that his "investigators" were hard at work. "You're not gonna believe what they're finding!" He described their investigation as "explosive", and promised that he would immediately release all of their documents and "findings". [SOURCE: http://thepage.time.com/2011/0...]

It is now ELEVEN MONTHS later. Nothing has been released by The Donald. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Not one "explosion" has been heard. The Donald has moved on to endorsing Mr Romney, and no longer talks about the Birthers.

So what happened to his "explosive evidence"? It blew up in his face. He released nothing --  because he found nothing.

Sheriff Arpaio's unpaid vigilantes have suffered the same fate as The Donald's "investigation" from April of LAST YEAR. Who can be surprised?

Only the Birther loons -- and you know who you are -- persist in their obsession. Even Trump gave up, and he's pretty crazy too.

Harry
Harry

Why won't this lousy BIRTHER issue just DIE& go away? It wont go away  becauseit's TRUE- Birthers are smeared as kooks & RACISTS- but in fact 17 topForensic Documenrt specialist (used in court to verify documents) have alldeclared the (ADOBE-PDF) birth certificate Obama released on April 27th to be ablatant FORGERY- GOOGLE "MARA ZEBEST" (who has written dozens ofADOBE software books) Hear her stake her reputation that the birth certificateis an absolute FORGERY (a cut & paste composit that was created on acomputer) Bottom line is "OBAMA is a FRAUD who has deceived America"Have you ever read one word about MARA or any other specialist or lawsuit inthe newspaper? (of course you haven't) Have you ever wondered why? More than 20lawsuits have been secretly dismissed in court about Obama’s birth certificate& multiple SSN's used in real estate scams- recently (in the 9th circuitcourt) Judge Lamberth dismissed the lawsuit against his multiple SSN's saying"Obama probably obtained the SSN's illegally but his right to privacytrumps all" This means that Obama does not have to obey the same laws thatyou & I do- He is above the law- and 2 months ago in Georgia a defaultjudgment went against Obama to disallow him on the 2012 ballot in Georgia- butit was later reversed because of behind the scenes politics- and a week later a5+ billion dollar contract to build a nuclear power plant was granted toGeorgia by the government-

Mike
Mike

Short videos on why the Cold case Posse determined the Obama long form birth certificate and his Selective Service registration card are forgeries- a person of interest has been identified and he should turn himself in, before he has an unscheduled heart attack. I wonder who removed all the INS records of foreign travel arrivals in the National archives for the 1st week of August, 1961?  What country did Ann Dunham visit ?   The Cold Case sure wanted to look at those records- to clear Obama, but now they can't say for a certainty that Obama wasn't born overseas. Is that why Obama said on July 15th last summer- "In a week I'll be turning 50"?- and he slipped up and told us he was really born around July 22nd- and I'll bet it wasn't in Hawaii.

Dr. Conspiracy
Dr. Conspiracy

You have identified a key problem with the Arpaio press conference. There was very little that could be independently verified.   The testimony of "forensic document examiners" is not of much use when we don't know who they were, what their qualifications are, and what they actually said. Given that this was essentially a WorldNetDaily production with investigations by WorldNetDaily reporter Jerome Corsi and a report written by WorldNetDatily contributor Mara Zebest, we might come to the reasonable conclusion that we're looking at Internet tabloid standards of evidence, not law-enforcement standards. I should note that the only credentialed forensic document examiner to look at Obama's long form was Ivan Zatkovich, and he said that the White House document was consistent with an authentic document that was sharpened up. Another widely-recognized graphics expert, Neil Krawetz also said that there wasn't anyting suggestive of fraud.  In fact, the entire birth certificate graphic analysis from Mara Zebest was old stuff from the pages of WorldNetDaily and further, it had been completely debunked by John Woodman in his book, Is Barack Obama's Birth Certificate a Fraud? Woodman volunteered to help the Cold Case Posse when it started, and they refused. That alone speaks volumes about the fact that this was not an investigation but a set up.  Mike Zullo said that they had "evidence" and "proof" that the Hawaiian birth registry listing Obama has foreign born children in it. Given that the law permitting children born out of state (to in-state parents) be registered wasn't passed until 20 years after Obama was born, this claim is highly suspect. Again, what is the evidence, and frankly why should we believe Mark Zullo and his band of birthers over President Obama and two Directors (one Republican and one Democrat) of the Hawaii Department of Health who have inspected the original document? Finally the thing that Obama's Selective Service application is a fake, not mentioning the fact that the document they doubted was obtained from the Selective Service under the Freedom of Information Act WHILE GEORGE W. BUSH WAS PRESIDENT. You may think that Joe Arpaio is a "lawman of impeccable character." I do not, and I point you to the fact that one day after the Press Conference, WorldNetDaily published a book on the investigation with a introduction written Sheriff Joe himself.

Dr. Conspiracy
Dr. Conspiracy

My initial reaction was anger to see conspiracy theories presented under the cover of authority. That Arizona press conference was nothing less than an assault on rational thinking.  It would have been the same if Arpaio had announced that the CIA killed JFK, George Bush blew up the World Trade Center or that the moon landing never happened.

The media have it right about Sheriff Joe: these are long-debunked claims. While no one outside the birther movement is going to fall for this, it does energize the birthers, who have now dusted off all of their other long-debunked claims and started posting them all over the Internet. It's gonna be another season of insufferable birthers, just like back when Donald Trump was doing his birth certificate thing.

Century21minuteman
Century21minuteman

Dear Readers,

In my years as a political activist it has become clear that propaganda is conducted by both sides of those vying for dominance over a particular issue.

While Sheriff Arpaio, in my opinion, is a lawman of impeccable character and integrity, I would like to see more "substantive evidence" that President Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. 

Mere suspicion is as common as the air we breathe.  I vividly remember when I was FALSELY accused of fraud and embezzlement and how such malicious rumors erroneously became "truth" in the minds of those delusional souls who wanted the falsehoods to be true. 

Until there is irrefutable proof that Obam's birth certificate is a fraud, and until Obama is actually prosecuted and convicted of such forgery, I remain skeptical of the veracity of the Sheriff's cold case findings.  Give me more evidence, please.

Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

I am curious how an Arizona Hick Sheriff happened to get a hold of the original Birth certificate for expert examination? and how his "Cold Case Posse" had any authority... Isn't a posse a group of un-sworn, untrained citizens temporarily deputized to catch fleeing criminals?

BetaRayBill
BetaRayBill

Okso they belief it is a fake, Now what?........Someone give this bigot a crossso he can set it on fire!!

Tactical Arizonan
Tactical Arizonan

Many of us support Sheriff Joe and think he is doing a great job.  Try your foolish California bullcrap in Maricops county and see what happens!  Thanks Sheriff Joe!

Dean Berry
Dean Berry

WHY ARE YOU NOT CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO GET THAT FRAUD OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE?  EVERYBODY COMPLAINS BUT NOBODY'S HELPING REMOVE THIS POTENTIAL TYRANT.

Retired Commander Kerchner has filed a lawsuit to remove Obalmy from office.  He could use a little financial assistance.  This man is an American Hero; we need to help him help us.  

http://www.kerchner.com/protec...

purple1960
purple1960

LIBTARDS DONT NEED FACTS,,,,,,,IF I OR  ANY ONE OF US HAD THESE FAKE DOCUMENTS WE  WOULD BE IN JAIL LIKE THE OBAMAO CRIME FAMILY SHOULD BE......

Diamond
Diamond

If you believe this Crack Pot we all will be fools. Get lost

teknik1200
teknik1200

this paper did not mention the fact that Jho made no attempt to contact the state of Hawaii during this investigation.

billsimpson
billsimpson

Keep it up Republicans. You'll get him reelected even with $5 gasoline.

Sarorb
Sarorb

As an Arazonan I'm embarrassed.  Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, you should be ashamed to waste time on this debunked garbage.  What will our sheriff be using public funds for next, finding alien spacecraft? 

trent1280
trent1280

Hi Leon:  if there was even a word of truth in your deranged rant, don't you think Donald Trump would have told us?

In April of last year, publicity-hound Trump announced that he was sending his "investigators" to Hawaii. "They're gonna get the truth about Obama," he said.

Then, he advised that his "investigators" were hard at work. "You're not gonna believe what they're finding!" He described their investigation as "explosive", and promised that he would immediately release all of their documents and "findings". [SOURCE: http://thepage.time.com/2011/0...]

It is now ELEVEN MONTHS later, Leon. Nothing has been released by The Donald. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Not one "explosion" has been heard. The Donald has moved on to endorsing Mr Romney, and no longer talks about the Birthers.

Why do you think that is? Has The Donald become an Obot? A secret black man? An Islamic Marxist? 

What happened to Trump's "explosive evidence"? It blew up in his face. He released nothing --  because he found nothing. Just like you.

bandidobob
bandidobob

Why do folks in support of obama always say "GET OVER IT".  Sheriff Joe presented factual evidence his "Posse" collected.  Like he said after the press meeting "when I presented the forged draft registration evidence, you could hear a pin drop".  So Ms Drag...go suck on the big one.

trent1280
trent1280

Yes, very good.

Now, tell us why The Donald, with all his $billions, found nothing?

Unless he was lying to us, your fellow Birther sent his "investigators" to Hawaii. They were there for weeks. They looked at EVERYTHING. They also did a forensic examination of the long form birth certificate. The Donald said their findings were "explosive!"

That was last April. Since then, nothing more from The Donald, your fellow Birther. He revealed precisely... nothing.

Why is that, Harry? Has Trump been exposed as a blowhard? Has Trump become an Obot? Was Trump fibbing all along? Did he produce nothing because he found nothing?

Donald Trump's failure is your failure, Harry. He found nothing. Just like you.

If there was anything to your ridiculous obsession, Hillary Clinton would have told us years ago. SHE would have found out. You know she would. Sorry about that.

Hillary produced nothing. Trump produced nothing. And you have produced nothing.

a
a

The Hawaii Attorney General said that no one from Arizona contacted them to verify the information in the BC.  That should have been the first place they started.

Savanah Gunthrie of NBC News took photos of the BC, not the pdf that Sheriff Joe's investigation was limited too.

http://lockerz.com/s/96540937

http://lockerz.com/s/96540721

The inforamtion on the certifed copy matches what is on the pdf.

y_p_w
y_p_w

They don't.  He allowed a bunch of people who already had a conclusion within days of the LFBC being released.

trent1280
trent1280

Not quite, Tacky.

Your Sheriff has admitted to botching over FOUR HUNDRED sex crime investigations. 400! He has apologized, and promised to do a better job in the future. Meantime, rapists are walking the streets.

Perhaps if he wasn't so busy chasing conspiracy theories, he'd have more time to do his job.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Oh, yes...I just LOVE being THREATENED because I believe in not having my civil rights trampled on by over-zealous law enforcement. Thanks.

a
a

Pennsylvania courts have thrown out Kerchner's ballot challenge

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Yeah, and it's a FACT that neo-con Karl Rove outed CIA agent Valerie Plame for nothing more than petty revenge against her husband, a journalist who dared to be critical of Dubya's administration...so why isn't HE in jail? Isn't treason a much more serious crime than some (supposed) forged documents?

Tactical Arizonan
Tactical Arizonan

Oh ya, Your sick state is doing real great, Huh?  Kaliphornication land is a liberal cesspool.  Keep sucking up your starbucks latte and living in your dreamland.  Sheriff Joe has it right.

y_p_w
y_p_w

They didn't contact a lot of people.

Including anyone at the Hawaii Dept of Health.  Or any of the assembled press corp at the April 27, 2011 White House press conference who saw the physical certified birth certificate copy, and one reporter who even handled it.

Their "experts" were people who have been proffering the same theories since the release.  And saying the PDF was a fake by using different software/hardware (Adobe software on a PC) than that which was used (built-in Mac OSX rendering software) to create the PDF.

HughL
HughL

 Exactly.  They were investigating a copy of the birth certificate - not the actual certificate.

Tactical Arizonan
Tactical Arizonan

Only because of ignorant mouth breathing knuckle draggers that think they are gonna get something for free.  Grow up, Nothing in life is free.

Tactical Arizonan
Tactical Arizonan

Trust me, Move to Kalifornia and they will accept you with open arms!  You won't be missed here.

purple1960
purple1960

HE DIDNT USE PUBLIC FUNDS,,,,,,GET YOUR READING TUTOR TO HELP YOU IF YOU NEED IT LIBTARD......BOY ITS EASY TO SPOT AN OBAMAO SUPPORTER.....

bandidobob
bandidobob

When one looks closely at the evidence Arpaio gave to the press, one cannot claim to be "uninformed" while supporting Obama/Soetoro, but merely one dumb ass voter.  The biggest fraud has been launched against the USA in it's history & it's obvious that some folks just don't give a shit.  That's sad.

FREDM
FREDM

The only reason you have civil rights is because of someone like Joe Arpio, he mustbe doing something right constantly gets re-elected in landslide victories.I bet if you were being attacked you would be alright with him coming to your aide even he had his jackboots on.

acerbic
acerbic

Hush... every $ given to the birfoon scammers is a $ not spent on republican election campaigns where it could do actual damage.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Nope... The Peoples Republic of California is full. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

The Good Sheriff is an Elected Official.  His pay is funded by the taxpayers of Maricopa County...If he wasted even one minute on this circus... then he wasted public funds.

And before you angrily rant at me for being an Obama supported your barking up the wrong tree.  I didnt vote for him in 08... I'm not going to vote for him in 12... I just am an old  school conservative who knows how to lose with dignity and not act like the childish liberals we cant stand.

Get over it... We lost... What we should be bitching about is the BS field of candidates we have to choose from!  

ObamasFakeBirthCertificate
ObamasFakeBirthCertificate

 and Obama released his "birth certificate" 3 days before claiming to have caught Osama. It appears Obama Osama Biden (Bi)nla(den) is a code created by the New World Order and exposed at the link in my name.

Charles Fiddaboll
Charles Fiddaboll

What you are saying, Bob the Bandido, is that Donald Trump is part of the Obama conspiracy.

He spent millions of his own dollars to send his investigators to Hawaii, in April of last year. Trump said, "You're not gonna believe what they're finding!" and then said that their findings were "explosive!"

He promised that he would release "the whole story" about Obama. That was last April.

Since then -- what findings has he released, Bob?

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

 umm those landslides have been getting smaller and smaller each cycle. too bad Arizona has such a small turnout at the polls. I remember seeing a bumper sticker on a vehicle near the State Capital it said, "Welcome to Arizona, Where the Rich get Richer & the poor Go to Prison"

How about we talk about your former Governor, (Symington) that Arizona Officials kept a "Hands Off" Policy so the US Attorney convicted him of Multiple Frauds he did not serve one day in prison, (or jail) Oh yea, he ran on a "Get Tough on Crime Platform"Isn't he now a cook at some Snobbsdale Ranch? Wasn't he also denied a Bankruptcy for Fraud at that time?

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Don't insult Janis that way! ;-)

"...'Dialing For Dollars' is trying to find me..."

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Democratic Theme Song: "Oh Lord, Won't Ya Buy Me a Mercedes Benz..."

(Because they don't know they can work hard and buy it themselves...)

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

A towing company in Santa Ana stole my car during this past saturday's ARTWALK. My friend's handicapped placard was clearly visible hanging from the rear-view mirror and it was towed anyway. They extorted $287.50 of my hard-earned money from me...I had to pay because they ILLEGALLY towed my car. Not so worried about Obama commandeering my car at the moment. =:-O

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Be glad you still have a car; pretty soon Obama may give your car to someone else...

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

:-DI recently purchased a bumper sticker that says:

"BIPARTISANSHIP: I'll hug your elephant if you kiss my ass!"

That's today's political climate in a nutshell...but I'm not sure if I should put it on my car or not...=:-O

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

LOL. :-D

And perhaps the Republican symbol should be a "talk to the hand" hand? ;-)

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

True, true, and quite an embarrassment Bush was indeed! But as for myself, for my own defense, I was a democrat way back then. Nowadays, the new democratic symbol should be a hand reaching out in the act of panhandling--"gimmee!"

909Jeff
909Jeff

look who has jokes today... :-)

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

He could be a MENSA candidate for all I know...but he plays that awfully close to the vest! :-D

909Jeff
909Jeff

HA! That made me laugh!  as in, it was funny. 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Ah, but being intelligent and actually making use of one's intellect are two different things. If Dubya's so smart he hides it well most days. ;-)

909Jeff
909Jeff

Now now... He actually had a better GPA than Al Gore and John Kerry... Stupid kids dont get into Yale... GW was at Yale from 64-68 his dad didnt get elected to his first term in congress until 67 so contrary to popular belief he didnt get into Yale because his daddy. GHW wasn't that well connected at the time 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Just a friendly reminder that the last president was a Republican...and had an IQ lower than a dishrag. ;-)

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

THANK GOD, Jeff! 

Most OC Weekly readers are democrats and pro-illegal-immigrant. 

I had you pegged as being too smart to be a democrat.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

I think he's a decent person at heart who really does try to maintain some integrity...but that can be a difficult undertaking in today's political environment. Washington just seems to be a theatre for partisan pissing matches nowadays. I want to tell them all to just suck it up and get things done, dammit!

909Jeff
909Jeff

Hey... during his campaign in 08 he was a very affable and charismatic guy.  I thought he seemed very likable... our politics just dont align.   

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

I was never in love with Obama either...he was the lesser of two evils at the time. I voted with cautious optimism...as many other childish liberals did. ;-) Like you, I'm far from being an "Obot"...I just recognize pointless, red-herring BS when I see it...and this birther nonsense is the epitome of that.

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