Taher Herzallah, "Irvine 11" Defendant, is Unrepentant at UC Santa Barbara

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"My people are being killed, my people are being oppressed, I'm going to do everything I can do to stop this. I'm not going to follow a form of protest that fits the status quo that allows my people to be oppressed."

--Taher Herzallah, one of the so-called "Irvine 11," speaking at UC Santa Barbara Tuesday.

The UCSB Multicultural Center's Students for Justice in Palestine hosted the appearance by Hezallah and Santa Barbara sociology professor Robert I. Robinson, who accused the Israeli government of practicing ethnic cleansing with its recent treatment of Palestinians.

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Defendants Mohammed Uns Qureashi (left) and Taher Herzallah flank a supporter at their March 2011 arraignment.
Herzallah, two fellow UC Riverside students and eight UC Irvine students were arrested after repeatedly interrupting a February 2010 address at UCI by invited speaker Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the U.S.

"Michael Oren is a trained propagandist," Taher said at UCSB (via The Bottom Line). "Michael Oren was directly involved in the Gaza Massacre. . . . For me a protest is standing up, getting in somebody's face and telling it how it is."

For telling it how it was to Oren, Herzallah, the other students and the Muslim Student Union many belonged to were disciplined by university officials. Then, days before the statute of limitations was to run out, the Orange County District Attorney's office filed criminal, misdemeanor charges against what by then became known as the Irvine 11.

One student settled his case before Herzallah and nine other students were convicted and sentenced last September to three years of informal probation and 56 hours of community service. Those who complete the community service hours by Sept. 24 of this year will have the probation period reduced to one year. Their attorneys have also appealed.


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Superdust
Superdust

another angry Muslim importing his deep-seated hatred for Jewish rights and Israel? Michael Oren is a respected scholar, soldier, and mainstream academic. He has authored half a dozen books including the critically acclaimed "Six Days of War." What has this chump done besides  ruin a lifetime experience for some people? It's people like him that give Islam a bad rep. Stop hating and try being tolerant for once. 

listen up
listen up

This was a more interesting story in the same paper.  

A Palestinian group's display was vandalized.     I don't have animosity towards the Palestinian group but thought this was funny.   I think it was funny whatever group this happened.   You put stuff out on the grass like this and some probably drunk college kids are going to mess with it.

http://thebottomline.as.ucsb.e...

909Jeff
909Jeff

Might I suggest he move to Lebanon and pick up a rifle otherwise STFU... 

listen up
listen up

I am pretty sure the pro-Israel student leader at UC Irvine when the Irvine 11 "protest" was done did go to Israel for graduate school so he could educate himself and help resolve the conflict.  

I remember listening to what I thought was going to be a knockdown radio debate between the pro-Israel student and a MSU member after the mess.   The pro-Israel student was asked something and his first answer to the question was all he wanted was to be friends with the MSU members and go out and have coffee with the them.  He harbored no anger towards them.   I thought that was pretty cool. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

As do I... I know it sounds cheesy but I saw the episode of all American Muslim where they went to New York and the one Muslim Man Gets a Tattoo from Ami who is Jewish and was in the Israeli military... I'm not kidding you it was a poignant moment and it will be replayed tomorrow night on NY Ink...  But like Ami James said... Its a shame that we both had to leave our homelands to discover that we can be friends.  

Again cheese factor aside whats not truthful and human about that statement.

It goes hand in hand with Golda Meir's quote... “there will be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews”

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 "Hamas and Hezbollah are recognized as terrorist organizations... Coincidentally, I guess they dont have a uniformed military... So. guys that run around in civilian attire, blow shit up and kill people and are affiliated with known terrorist organizations are in fact terrorists .. You disagree? " I disagree with you in that guys that WEAR uniformed attire, blow shit up and kill people are terrorists as well. Whether or not they are a "known" or "recognized" or "identified" terrorist group is absolutely irrelevant to me. You want to talk about some of the other groups the West has labeled as terrorist orgs? Opposition groups to brutal ME dictators have been named terrorists in an attempt at appeasement. Not much credibility there. As far as I'm concerned, there's so much access to information these days people are going to start waking up. Years from now Hezbollah and Hamas will still be on the wrong side of history, but Israel and the US army will be as well.

909Jeff
909Jeff

A coupe things

1) toungue in cheek... Its convenient for someone like him to come to the US or quite possibly be born here go to college and shout from his soap box from the safety of the good ole USA.  Which he has a right to do however disingenuous it is.  All I was suggestion is if he feels that impassioned he can buy a plane ticket and actually join the effort. 

2) Trolling for a sucker like you to bite so I rain cold hard facts on you! 

Note... It is you who has constantly taken cheap shots at me personally.

909Jeff
909Jeff

First rule of effective debate is not being emotionally attached... I dont have to belive something to use it.  I think the UN is a Joke and the US should kick the UN out of New York... Let them go set up in Paris or wherever... But when you make a statement like

" No one doubts that they have occupied this land based on what they feel is their religious right, but the world still has a problem with that." 

I am obliged to respond that it was actually the united nations general assembly that voted on resolution 181 and here is how the vote came down.

Adopted at the 128th plenary meeting:

In favour: 33Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian S.S.R., Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxemburg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, Ukrainian S.S.R., Union of South Africa, U.S.A., U.S.S.R., Uruguay, Venezuela.

Against: 13Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.

Abstained: 10Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.

so actually... as you say "The World" actually was responsible for the partition. 

The Arab world (as I said) are the only ones with problem, since 11 of the 13 who voted against the partition are Islamic nations

"And if you make your distinction between a terrorist and a non-terrorist based on apparel then you have bigger problems than watching too much Fox news."  

Hamas and Hezbollah are recognized as terrorist organizations... Coincidentally, I guess they dont have a uniformed military... So. guys that run around in civilian attire, blow shit up and kill people and are affiliated with known terrorist organizations are in fact terrorists .. You disagree? 

"Fyi, you're making some assumptions yourself - I'm not Arab, Persian or Muslim. I just cant stand that my tax money is responsible for so much human suffering"

You said "you" in your post to me so I said "you" when responding.  no assumptions made just responding in kind!  and we actually do agree that its a phenomenal waste of tax money.  But until there is peace it is necessary... Unfortunately we have divergent opinions as to who is the aggressor.

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 Lets not forget your opening commentary here "go to Lebanon and pick up a rifle" - you showed us how ignorant you are from the jump. You're not gonna look anymore intelligent with your irrelevant selection of facts. None of them change what Israel has done and continues to do to the Palestinian people, and you're only thought is go to Lebanon and pick up a rifle. 

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 Just the fact that you think the UN is the world or even represents the world shows how molded you are. That's as stupid as saying the President represents the people. And if you make your distinction between a terrorist and a non-terrorist based on apparel then you have bigger problems than watching too much Fox news. Fyi, you're making some assumptions yourself - I'm not Arab, Persian or Muslim. I just cant stand that my tax money is responsible for so much human suffering.

listen up
listen up

dude, you really should study up on the history.   Most of the early Zionists were not religious.   They wanted a homeland for Jews because they saw that Europeans saw Jews as outsiders and the Zionists feared persecution from Europeans.  Most didn't claim the land based upon religious grounds.   There have been plenty of studies that show the Jews who did return had ancestors who did come from that area.   The whole line that European Jews aren't real Jews is pretty lame.  Jews are a people.    

You are the inverse of the idiots who say that Palestinians aren't a people.   Palestinians had national ambitions and formed as a people in around the 1920s.   

When the Jews fought for their independence in 1948, they did not fight it as a relgious war.  They fought for what they thought was their survival.  The Jews in 1948 were mostly secular people who wanted a homeland.   While the Arab religious leaders did incorporate religion to stir up their people.   And Hamas still does today.          

There is an internal battle inside Israel on how religous it should be as a state.   I am not Jewish so I am an outsider on this, but I support those who call Israel a homeland for the Jewish people as opposed to want it to be a Jewish state.   This will be a conflict within Israel in the future.  The more religious have the upper hand right now.   I do not think that is a good for the state of Israel.       

909Jeff
909Jeff

HA! 

You're funny! 

"Jeff, you're obviously quite slanted and biased in what you've selected as "history" yourself." 

I'm not Jewish... and its funny you say I have a slanted and biased view of history and yet in your very next sentence validate my argument that the land belonged to the ancient Hebrews.  

The Unitied Nations (AKA the world) partitioned that land for a sovereign Jewish state. Almost Immediately the Jews were attacked by the Arabs... ? No comment there? 

Converts? Can you convert to become Jewish? Sure... But I'd say that 99% are born Jewish.. descendants of the original Hebrew tribes that.... By your own admission occupied that land first.  

"but the world still has a problem with that."

Translated; The Arab and Persian world have a problem with it. 

"You are killing and brutalizing in the name of God."

Do you really want to go down this road?     The next time a Heeb gets on a bus and detonates a bomb killing  thirty to fifty palestinians (in the name of God) and then the Jews party in the streets firing guns in the air and wishing death on the great satan will be the first.  

"Textbook definition of terrorism here." 

The last time I checked the Isreali military is a uniformed armed force that doesn't hide weapons in schools and mosques and purposely target civilians.  That doesn't mean that civilians aren't killed and its tragic when an innocent civilian on either side is killed... To be clear... But if Hamas and Hezbollah didnt hide in Hospitals schools and Mosques there would be less civilian casualties.

Guest
Guest

Jeff, you're obviously quite slanted and biased in what you've selected as "history" yourself. The land may have belonged to the ancient hebrews but the current occupiers have no ancestry linking to the hebrews. They are displaced European converts. No one doubts that they have occupied this land based on what they feel is their religious right, but the world still has a problem with that. You are killing and brutalizing in the name of God. Using violence and force for political gain. Textbook definition of terrorism here.

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listen up

.... some Arabs were forced out of their homes but only after the Arabs had attacked a nascant Israel.       

Bottom line though is If the Arabs had accepted the partion plan, there would be no refugee problem.    

Still the Palestinain refugees should be compensated for the loss of their land.  

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listen up

You have a warped view of the history of the area.  And it sounds like you are still stuck in 1948.    I am all for ending the occupation and for a peaceful two state settlement along the lines Clinton proposed.   You know, I have talked to Jewish students at UC Irvine and they support the two state solution too.   I haven't come across any that want all the land.  There are probably some who do but I haven't come across any. Meanwhile, I have seen the MSU marching across the campus with chants of "Zionism no, the state of Israel has got to go".   I do not believe they are only talking about the West Bank with that chant.      If there is going to be peace, compromise and sacrifice will be necessary on both sides.   No deal will be perfect but it will be better than endless conflict.   When Oren spoke on the campus in the past, he said he supported the two state solution.  Meanwhile the MSU invite guys like Malik Ali to speak on the campus.   Malik Ali openly supports Hamas and Hamas publicly calls for the destruction of Israel.  

909Jeff
909Jeff

Your whole argument is based on a false premise... Palestine as a country never existed. Whats sick is your revisionist history... 

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution

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Jeff! Be serious as someone who claims to have served his country, you think if we were invaded by China, forced to leave our homes and were confined to a tiny strip of land deprived of basic necessities that you wouldnt be the least bit angry and consider serving your country in taking back your land? Albeit the Palestinians even with Hamas don't have a fraction of the power to match up against the Israeli/ US army, don't you you think the majority of them would consider the occupiers the "enemy". Thats pretty sick coming from someonewho says he has served his country. Theres a reason the rest of the world hates Americans.  

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 of course you're from 909

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Hey, I think Jeff and I are probably on completely opposite sides of the fence on this issue...but that doesn't mean we'll start hurling meaningless insults at each other. Grow up.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

How is being just as nasty as the person you're mad at for making "inappropriate" comments make you the better person? I have my own issues with the "pick up a rifle" comment but I choose my battles. Jeff and I don't see I to eye on some things but we can still engage in civil, relevant discussions about the topic at hand. You, however, decided to make sweeping generalizations about him based on superficial things like his profile picture...and where he (supposedly) lives...and then called him a coward. Yes, so mature of you.

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Thanks. I still need to work on it when I'm driving, though...the foul things I say behind the wheel would make a sailor blush...and my grandmother sad. :-(I know there are no easy answers in the Israel/Palestine conflict...I'm angry and deeply saddened by the violence perpetuated by fanatics on both sides. I also know there are decent people from both nations who want to live in peace with their neighbors...gives me a little hope.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Fish... Always the cooler head! 

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oh that wasnt meant to be an insult? excuse me, then YOU define what he meant by go to "Lebanon and pick up a rifle". Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure that was meant to be a deragatory insult. Very original too, the whole terrorist thing, bravo.

909Jeff
909Jeff

And another sucker takes the bait... 

Nice preconceived notions ass hat! 

Edit- Sorry for calling you Ass Hat... My friend Fish made a good point!

909Jeff
909Jeff

I wore this countries uniform Jim... You can call me what you want I know the truth! 

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listen up

He is an American college kid.   He was denying the rights of those who went to the lecture to hear the speech.  He shows no remorse because he doesn't get it. He thinks his cause is more important than basic rights of other Americans.    I didn't think they needed to be criminally prosecuted but it is pretty funny to me how their main defense is they use is that they are college kids and what their behavior was normal behavior for college kids.  They then say the DA went overboard spending too much time and money to convict us dopey college kids. While at the same time pretend they are Martin Luther King Jr or Rosa Parks.   They are nothing like any of these people. Their goal was to prevent Michael Oren from saying whatever he wanted on the campus and to shut the event down.   They aren't fighting for equal rights or free speech.   They have their own events where they invite guys like Malik Ali to speak and share their perspective.  They have that right.   I don't agree with Malik Ali.  I, unlike Malik Ali, do not openly support Hezbollah, Hamas, or Islamic Jihad - three groups the US State Department recognizes as terrorist organizations.   But the MSU should be allowed to invite Malik Ali to speak on the campus and Malik Ali should be able to speak without repeated interuptions.   They do not want Israeli officials to speak on college campuses.            

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 "He thinks his cause is more important than basic rights of other Americans." Are you looking at the scale here? OF COURSE his cause is more important, not because its HIS but because he is standing up against starvation and brutality and injustice and murder. You are talking about "interrupting" a public figure. How do you even let those selfish words come out your mouth?? Do you think all the people that heckle the president during his speeches deserve to be criminally prosecuted? What a waste of time and money. If you want to be selfish, you should be angry that your tax money is supporting this type of useless prosecution. Not that a man who is so angered by what we are doing to his people speaks up at an inappropriate time.

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listenup

He can stand up for what he believes while using tactics that don't make him and his buddies a bunch of douche bags.

It isn't either be a douche and plan out tactics to try to shut down the event or do nothing.

There were many alternative actions him and his buddies could have done that would have enhanced and enriched the academic experience of the event.   

    

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listen up

I guess you didn't read my second paragraph.  I did not support crimnally prosecuting the students.  

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

I bet he sails through the TSA line at John Wayne Airport. 

Jim Long
Jim Long

Are you proud of discriminating against others?

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listen up

He is dopey college kid.   I don't think he should have been criminally prosecuted but he was wrong to prevent Oren from being heard.

Dude, you are not going to convince many people to join you by denying people basic rights because you think your cause is more worthy than their right to go to a lecture at a college campus and listen to someone give a speech. 

FishWithoutBicycle
FishWithoutBicycle

Not fair to call him a "dopey college kid". He has good reasons to believe what he believes. And lecturing a Palestinian supporter for supposedly denying the Ambassador of Israel his "basic rights" is laughable. Like Israel is always so fair and even-handed in its dealings with Palestine? Please.

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