Long Beach Bans "Rogue" Marijuana Dispensaries

No dispensary owners are financially doing well these day? Brother, be real to yourself. Once we get that greed out our system, then we can really help fight the cause for the "real patients". People actually are suffering out here guys, greed is the primary motivation that is found in everybody in this business. Find yourselves, block out that greed and we can really help out patients and our community.

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...ryan if Pack is affirmed by the supreme court then that will stop local cities from telling collectives and patients what to do. That is the truth.

Patients are granted their rights by the state....the city has no business trying to restrict it.

Collectives should be treated like a starbucks.

No differently.

I'm not trying to pick on you here Leo.  Just getting the truth out.  Pappas probably didn't want the bans his case has created, although i'm not sure he ever "cared" one way or another to begin with.

Hell, if we're all banned in the end, i'll just go back to my previous profession and start making money again. I think your average Macdonalds employee makes more than dispensary owners at this point.  People called it the modern day gold rush? Hardly. More like being on the Titanic. 

Best of luck to you either way,Ryan 

Well, if that happens, i'm fairly certain that the council will allow us the chance to relocate. Quite frankly, i'll relocate right when it happens as being within in 1000 feet of schools is against state law. It's just the way this business is. Bad luck always seems to strike Cornerstone, so i wouldn't doubt anything at this point. 

Additionally Leo, did you know that if the Pack case is reaffirmed by the California Supreme Court, as you seem to want, that ALL storefront dispensaries will be outlawed statewide? All dispensaries will be gone - forever.  Pappas will have single handedly destroyed this industry statewide.  Collectives and patients will suffer from it. 

RIght after the Pack ruling came down, all cities began banning. Pappas is already responsible for the closure of hundreds of dispensaries since last October.  And if the Cal Supreme Court (your high court action) reaffirms the ruling, then ALL dispensaries will be banned statewide. All will be gone.  Congrats Leo.   And i'm afraid that it won't end with the closure of all dispensaries in the state. It will effect all states across the country.  Not sure how that will help all the patients that you say you care so much about.  Bottom line is that your group doesn't give a damn about anything other than your own future in the business. It's called greed my friend.  

This is all just the truth and reality of the situation and it's time people know the truth. 

Good luck Leo.  Not sure why you want the Pack ruling reaffirmed when the whole state will be wiped out.  Although,  it could go back to the original reason why the case was filed to begin with.  If the Pappas group can't get into the industry, then might as well destroy it for everybody else.  Leo Leo Leo.....  you' guys have created a mess for the collectives statewide. 

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Sensible words, and i will agree tgat one of the largest myths perpetuated is tgat collectives make all kinds of money.....they dont. True.

Matt Pappas is tge son and he has never had any collective or owned one. What he has are a lot of clients that manage collectives....and he wholeheartedly believes that nine uninformed people shouldnt have absolute power. And they dont....hence the high court action.

Thank God for the higher courts and their wisdom.

Additionally Ryan... i have some news for you.... the EPHS has secured a new student location for its operations on Wardlow....approximately 900 feet from your estabkishment

I believe his son owns the dispensaries in Long Beach, is what i'm refering to.  From what i understand the father/son team had a falling out over this business.  It's a rough industry and greed can be a powerful force. Trust me. I've seen it first hand and people get dilusional over it when they really have no idea.  No dispensary owners are doing well financially these days. 

Hopefully they've worked it out by now, which i'm sure they have.

The son should beg the council to be added to the exempt list.  Not everything has to be settled with legal action. 

Good luck.      

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Pappas doesnt own any collectives you idiot....none....zero.

You talk out of your ass without researching the lies and rhetoric that you and council perpetuate...

Matthew Pappas was practicing in Nevada not long ago before he took on the causes of Ryan Pack and Tony Gayle.... patients.

His estranged father is a partner in one tiny collective.

There is no affiliation.

Matt struggles to provide services pro-bono to patients.

Its simple.... dumbasses.... look on Google....all you find is exemplary service and career.... not one blemish.

Stop defaming before you know what youre talking about.

He will ultimately save your rights to transfer medicine between patients.

Leo is Pappas?  Get some courage my friend. That's why you can't make in this business. You  never had what it takes to be in it to begin with.  Although i sympathize for the other dispensary owners, your (affiliated) closure is one that comes with a lot less sympathy.  It's called karma, and your business practices with dispnsaries within 1000 feet of schools or parks are over. In my view, you gave this industry a bad name.  Good job.

You say Pappas did it for the patients? Good grief.  He owns more than one dispensary and he did it for himself to stay in business when he was not deemed to be operating legally after the ordinance went into effect  Good grief. He did it to save himself. Unfortunately he always uses the patients and compassion for an excuse.  From what i understand, Pappas owns several dispensary locations in Long Beach, most of which are not considered legal. That's why he filed suit, GREED. Using disabled patients to accomplish that is despicable at best. His court case resulted in statewide bans, and that's the reality of it. With the bans that resulted from his case, how exactly has that helped these patients that he cares so much about. That case hurt patients and collectives statewide, all so he could stay in business.  Nothing but a rogue attorney. 

friends of mine that work at city hall tell me that he stinks and wears the same cheap two suits every other day with the same white socks.

I for one know Ryan of CORNERSTONE was on the phone with Erik Sund....

.....i know this because big fat ugly rosacea skinned high blood pressure Erik Sund told me so himself on one of his famous screaming phone calls yelking like a female dog in heat.

Ryan...the complete literature of the entire Pack case is online. Read it.

The case was brought forth by Attorney Matt Pappas to protect patients (not collectives) this is about patients....

...in this case lets humanize this....two sick dying patients who require medical marijuana for their care...their names are Ryan Pack and Tony Gayle....they required acccess to medicine where they as citizens and disabled people deemed fit for them...NOT fit for some ordinance and random lottery charging $15000 a ticket. Now.... the case simply sought to dismantle the tyranny and constrained predjudicial arbitrary restrictions of 5.87 ordinance.

The high court agreed with the patients and called the city "criminals" (i was present at the appeals court that day, were you?)....

The Pack Case has nothing to do with bans. Bans is what the city chose to do as vindictiveness. Do you realize Ryan that your atients and colleagues were submitted to warrantless unconstitutional raids violently carried out by our police without DUE PROCESS??

Can you condone this? It can happen to you in six months.

But probably wont because Pappas and Chuck Farano are fighting as I write this to you. They are fighting for all of our patient rights.

Do you believe you are free yet should live under the absolute ruling of nine people to end your mission to help patients in six months, or should you be free to exist forever? This is what tge Pack Attorneys believe, and they receive little to no compensation.

Well Leo, we might not have the best location in the world, and we may not be exactly booming for business, but I like our old fire station building.   Except perhaps when it rains and the roof repels water like a strainer, but what can we do.  Unfortunately we don’t have nice wood floors and flat screen monitors for menus, but I’ll take the old firehouse any day of the week. .   I personally sympathize for the collectives that have to go through the ban. Unfortunately some of them are led by a group of “rogue” attorneys and they have been a little misled.   .   Remember, it was the Pack ruling that created city bans throughout the state.   Now, what group in their right minds would try to get an ordinance thrown out to regulate medical marijuana?   What would be their motivation?   Rogue attorneys....  We wish the best for these collectives that have to deal with the ban.  It’s not a pleasant time, but this industry changes like the wind and anything is possible.   Don’t give up hope too early.   Best of luck to all,R 

Thank you.

Dude, I remember when I was a volunteer at one of these permitted collectives and that 1st ban that was in effect. My boss was in Eric Sund's office crying about how come the city is not enforcing this ban on all the other collectives that was around his area. I thought to my self, GREED. It disgusted me so much that I moved back up North to go to school and be my family. I am by far not a gangster type, but my mother never taught me to snitch on others like that.