'Anonymous' Hack Emails of American Third Position Party, Show Proof of Meetings and Calls Between Neo-Nazi Group and Ron Paul

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The Orange County-based white supremacist American Third Position Party finds itself in the headlines again as Anonymous defaced its website yesterday, with the flag of the Soviet Union serving as backdrop with superimposed images of the seal of the amorphous hackers and a rainbow-maned pony! The American TP homepage hasn't been patched up and redirects to the campaign site of its presidential candidate, Merlin Miller, in the meantime.

More importantly, the private emails of American TP webmaster Jamie Kelso were also exposed and published by the hackers detailing his attempts to cross-pollinate larger support for GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul with the marginalized American TP.

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Screenshot of hacked American TP webpage--funny!

"In addition to finding the usual racist rants and interactions with other white power groups, we also found a disturbingly high amount of members who are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul," the statement from Anonymous reads. "According to these messages, Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors."

Kelso became an American TP'er in January 2010 as noted by the Southern Poverty Law Center's profile of him that includes quotes of his opinion that Jews, mestizos, blacks and Asians constitute a "subspecies" unsuitable for inter-ethnic relationships with whites. A busy body racist, he had previously been the web moderator for Stormfront while living in the house of former Klansman David Duke and later started the website White News Now.

Kelso's affinity for Ron Paul grew with the congressman's 2008 presidential bid, as he saw recruiting potential at campaign events and rallies. "Let's appreciate this big audience that's overwhelmingly white. This is our audience, this is our public," he later told the SPLC in a 2010 interview. "These are the people. If we can't persuade these people of the rightness of our cause, then we're finished!" With Paul still in the race for 2012, the Anonymous hack details Kelso's involvement as in the following October 2011 exchange:

Hey Gordon! You made my day. This is great. Yes, definitely put Grand Forks on your route. Did you know that Ron Paul will be in Fargo sometime in the first ten days of November. I'll be meeting Ron there. I'll let you know the exact day. Thanks, Jamie
The amorphous Internet group's actions are currently capturing international headlines, but meetings with Paul was something the American TP webmaster bragged about on his January 11th, 2012 internet podcast show. "On August 11th, 2007, the current Chairman of the American Third Position William Johnson and I met Ron Paul for the first time in Ames, Iowa at the Iowa straw poll," he said. After mentioning his initial encounter, Kelso goes on to gab about the number of cities he's seen his political idol at since then, including the November 5th, 2011 Fargo, North Dakota date alluded to in the exposed email and noted by the host on his show as the "most recent."

Rather than being solely suggestive of superficial encounters, the emails also speak of a phone conversation between Paul, Kelso and American TP Chairman William "Bill" Johnson ahead of CPAC. Before that, an older 2010 exchange mentions Johnson and Paul in the same breath recounting a gathering of American TP'ers in OC. "We had a great meeting in Orange County last night, at which I was asked by the Chairman of the American Third Position party to take on the work of his personal assistant," Kelso writes. "Bill Johnson is the Chairman, and a good friend. He has been Ron Paul's top man in Southern Calif. for the last 3 years. So this is a big deal, and will really help WNN."

Johnson, who himself was designated a year earlier as chairman of the American TP during its formation in Orange is no stranger to racism and the Texas congressman. The LA-based attorney, who ran for an open Los Angeles County Superior Court judge seat in 2008, was revealed as the pseudonym author of a book advocating for a proposed Pace Amendment which would limit citizenship to non-Jewish whites and Latinos who are indistinguishable "from Americans whose ancestral home is in the British Isles or Northwestern Europe" as well as standing for the repealing of the 14th and 15th amendment. Johnson's judicial bid was initially endorsed by the Paul campaign, only to be later retracted as a supposed oversight--you know, like those oh, so troublesome newsletters!

The exposed emails bring that public display of distancing between the two into question as Kelso speaks of a private continuation of the relationship. "I didn't buy a return ticket yet, because I'm going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson the following weekend. So I'll be scouting out a ride from Charlotte to Wash. DC on one of the intervening days," he writes in a dated January 2011 exchange. "CPAC is Feb. 10-12 (T/F/Sat). Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Rand Paul. I'm in a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you)." A follow-up email by Kelso the very next day mentions that he was, indeed, able to speak by phone with the Congressman.

Paulbots: you may now start your engines!
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Lerojist
Lerojist

I think hacking is wrong.

What's wrong with white people having a group?  Someone they can relate to?

A3P
A3P

Excuse me. But I have seen pictures of President Obama with Black Panthers. Suddenly President Obama is now a Black Supremacist? What about Jermiah Wright's church membership for 20 years?

This entire article is silly and the writer sound stupid.

DavidM
DavidM

PS--The "Southern Poverty Law Center" targets ANYBODY who disagrees with their extremist leftwing egalitarian agenda as a "racist" or a "neonazi"! Their accusations at this late date constitute no reliable evidence, much less proof!

Their attacks even on the likes of Kelso, David Duke, Bill Johnson, et al, even if correct, do nothing more at this point but describe them as honest and consistant patriots interested in the well being of Europeans who may be mistaken or overwrought on particular points, and not "racists" at all!

As we saw with "the boy who cries wolf", if you lie often enough, nobody will believe you, even if you are actually right!

DavidM
DavidM

And this shows what? That some "racists" support Ron Paul? So do a lot of non racists!

I daresay that even if Ron Paul WAS a racist, he would STILL be a far better President than any other candidate now running. Case(s) in point:

1) Who has consistantly upheld the Constitution AS WRITTEN defending the civil liberties of all Americans, from Habeas Corpus to Presumption of innocence, to trial by Jury and the unfettered use and enjoyment of one's justly acquired property?

2) Who has unrelentingly demanded an end to the "war on drugs", a war against the civil liberties of the American people, especially those of African background?

3) Who has demanded a full and prompt audit of the Federal Reserve, a disreputable gang of counterfeiters, frauds, and embezzlers who have, for almost a century, acted to destroy the value of more than 97% of the US Dollar, spent literally TRILLIONS of $$$$$ altogether unacountably to Congress or the Presidency, bailed out their bankster friends at home and abroad, and driven our country nearly to hyperinflation and bankruptcy?

4) Who has come out unreservedly against Capital punishment, an aspect of penal law long since abandoned by most other civilized countries, and also often disproportionately punishes Afro-Americans?

I could go on, but I think that I have made my point...

Ron Paul supported by "racists". Perhaps. Ron Paul (or his campaign) catering to, or influenced by "racists"? GET A LIFE!!

A3P
A3P

Those emails and addresses look fabricated with the intention of smearing Ron Paul.

Why should we believe any of this baloney?

Lynn Picciano
Lynn Picciano

 These folks juSt don't give up-the integrity and principles that Dr. Paul has thru-out 20+yrs is enough to speak for itself. But should you need more-google you tube videos of all the African Americans testimonies, also supporting/reporting the facts-he's not a racist;they support him-and y'all are downright burnout with this, to even go so far as to have those who suggest dressing up in klansman to attend his debates posed as Ron Paul supporters-you are vile and do a disservice to your fellow americans-you effin savage beasts. Mean while we have terrorists perverting the whitehouse, totally escapes you people-it's no wonder that they can-IDIOTS! SURROUNDED BY IDIOTS AND THEY KNOW IT!

ZachariahWiedeman
ZachariahWiedeman

The Vancouver Observer has picked up on this and is reporting that the main people denying any support for or connection to Ron Paul are the very white supremacists whom are being cited in these emails (on second page of web article):http://www.vancouverobserver.c...

Furthermore, the official Anonymous hacker group is denying that they conducted this hacking and it is not a part of their official Operation Blitzkrieg:http://www.nazi-leaks.info/

As the VO summarizes, this appears to not be a legitimate hack by Anonymous exposing Ron Paul, but rather an effort by a group claiming to be Anonymous putting out false information in an attempt to discredit Ron Paul. Which somewhat makes sense: If you do a little research you can find that most of the individuals supposedly claiming to "campaigners" for Ron Paul aren't even affiliated with his campaign much less any of the grassroots organizations or Meetup groups in the areas these individuals claim to be working from. It all goes back to that article from the American Conservative - there is a very well coordinated effort from the GOP establishment to discredit Ron Paul as a racist in order to remove his signature positions, particularly his nonintervention foreign policy position, from being seriously discussed among the party:http://www.theamericanconserva...

ZachariahWiedeman
ZachariahWiedeman

Interestingly enough, the ones who seem to be in denial about this are the authors of these forum posts (they are not emails which is being widely reported). I've been researching the topic and came across some white supremacy forums where the members of A3P have been quite actively denying the claims of these posts...Here: http://bit.ly/x01mPFHere: http://bit.ly/zzw12Z

Here is an interesting article published by Scott McConnell yesterday which very astutely sums up Ron Paul's political history, including the allegations of racism, and discusses what the motivation and strategy is behind these allegations. They seem to be the main thrust of credible criticisms against Ron Paul although they certainly cannot be said to be anywhere near the heart of his political platform: http://www.theamericanconserva...

A3P
A3P

 Mr. Wideman, why shouldn't we assume that YOU are the Nazi? Why are YOU visiting all these forums? Your motive is noble? But everybody elses is suspicious? You've lost all credibility.

ZachariahWiedeman
ZachariahWiedeman

By your logic, no journalist or researcher has any credibility. It makes no sense. So, by becoming informed you sacrifice credibility? Meh. Google me, and see what comes up.

OC-Blade
OC-Blade

@ZachariahWiedeman I Googled you. What's with the gay porn?

Daniel Genseric
Daniel Genseric

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Lerojist
Lerojist

I believe white people deserve their own group.

A nation is defined by a culture, heritage, language, and FAITH.  The United States was created/founded by the white European, rooted in the Judeo/Christian Bible.  We are a Christian nation.  The ungodly don't like us.

We are the envy of the world, that is why the enemy within flooded our country with people we have nothing in common.  Divide and Conquer.  White people can communicate, live together as civilized people, because of God's Word, while many other peoples can't.

The enemy of the world, will forever follow us, want what we have, yet will always try to destroy us.  The enemy within, the serpent seed has infiltrated all our institutions.  

Dawn Blush
Dawn Blush

Everyone needs to contact the FBI. There are only a handful of these articles and one of them clearly was contacted by the terrorists otherwise none of this would even be known.No amount of confidential source nonsense will work when you conspire with a terrorist.Report this author and every other one to the FBI so we can uncover the identity of the terrorist!!!!

sailing
sailing

That has been debunked: http://www.vancouverobserver.c...

gabriel san roman
gabriel san roman

Wow. Does the title of that article really read "The Lynching of Ron Paul?" Despicable. I went on the linked White Race forum from it. The guy posting under Kelso didn't say anything about Ron Paul, Bill Johnson, phone calls/meetings. He was just irate at the hack. 

Thanquol
Thanquol

I love how they always come out with this dribble a week or so before paul heads into any election with a chance to win.   Just google obama and racist quotes.  Most straight out of his book.  Then google his preachers racist quotes.  Imply the "logic" of this smear peice and vola the president is a black panther bent on the destruction of the white race. 

Guest
Guest

"Paul heads into any election with a chance to win " ... Hahahahahahahaha!

Thanquol
Thanquol

Iowa,  He polled in the leed 1 week before.  Maine,  he probably won.  New hampshire, second.   Now wich canidate do you secretly support mister guest?  So we can laugh back at you in secret.

mitch young
mitch young

Ron Paul is about pro-white as Gustavo Arellano. All these supposed quotes show are Kelso trying to make it seem like he has some close connection with Paul. And I am not a Paul supporter.

Brian Alexandar
Brian Alexandar

 I find that unusual also. What's with all the drama? "Anonymous" loves to expose "racism" and Ron Paul but yet they stay concealed!?

Where's the beef? Another thing, I find it odd that they use the communist "hammer and sickle" symbo

barbara graham
barbara graham

 I kind of get that sense too. If some group decides to throw in with you and you don't like them associated with your campaign, what are you gonna do about it? Tell 'em to get lost?

Pumpuy2010
Pumpuy2010

Dole did that to the Gay Republicans. He returned their $1,000 check in August of 1995. 

MarlaHughes
MarlaHughes

 In a word, YES.

gabriel san roman
gabriel san roman

That incident comes up in the emails with someone going by the handle of Penn Dutch apologizing profusely to Kelso and saying that he intended to inform Paul about it. Dated February 2011.

mitch young
mitch young

Actually, if you google around you can find a scene from CPAC (video) a year or two ago where the Paul-ites do tell Kelso to 'get lost', or at least take of a 'Ron Paul' button. Fair enough. The sad thing is while Kelso was engaging some kids in debate (and, you could tell, reaching a few) that the CPAC people had to shut down the exchange.

Funny, you can advocate as a  'Latino' conservative, promoting Latino causes, but you can't advocate as a white conservative, promoting the interests of whites. 

Ganjolth
Ganjolth

Where to begin... 

First, trying to demean Paul's supporters with the whole "paulbot" label really speaks to your character and motivation. 

Second, guilty by association is a logical fallacy - one on which these accusations are entirely based. Obama, Romney, Gingrich all have their own racist, thuggish supporters - doesn't make them racist. It's their policies that do that.

Third, this is far from "proof". Anyone can type anything on the internet. I could say I met with Obama last week about his desire to invade Mexico. Using your burden of proof, it could be true!

909Jeff
909Jeff

You seem like a smart person... Here is another Fallacy that applies to the story.  onus probandi – I need not prove my claim, you must prove it is false

A3P
A3P

 That is not so. If you make the charge it is up to you to prove it true! I have no obligation to disprove your claim.

Ganjolth
Ganjolth

"I need not prove my claim, you must prove it is false" is indeed a fallacy. The burden of proof is always on the accuser - hence the common phrase "innocent until proven guilty".

I argued in my third point that the author's evidence - some unauthenticated forum posts by an anonymous source - does not meet the burden of proof for such an accusation.

Ganjolth
Ganjolth

Ahh I see, a little confusion on my part. You are absolutely correct. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Perhaps I mis-communicated I was agreeing with you that the Author was making a claim that was basically saying this is so because I say so... 

J1
J1

Obama, Gingrich and Romney all have ties to the Nazis as well as Socialists, Al-quaeda, Hamas, etc. world wide. 

onus probandi - I need not prove MY CLAIM.  :)

Isn't it curious how that goes two ways.

kitg
kitg

Sounds like alot of hot air to me. I have pictures of me standing by lots of famous people and of course I shine on nutty people by being nice. However, the Romneys have ties to REAL NAZI'S.

George Romney worked for Massachusetts Democratic U.S. Senator David I. Walsh during 1929 and 1930 as a staff aide working on tariffs and other legislative matters.

The New York Post ruined the career of Senator David Walsh with the story that he was involved in a gay Nazi whorehouse full of gay, Nazi, pro-Hitler whores trying to bring down America through extortion.

It was 1942, and police were tipped off that there was a gay brothel in Massachusetts that was infested with Nazi spies. It wasn’t entirely random — at the risk of propagating a cliche, the brothel was a popular haunt for Navy personnel. So it was a good place to gather military information, if you were an undercover Nazi and willing to bone a sailor in order to get him talking.

But after city detectives raided the sex club/spy nest, news emerged from somewhere that a U.S. senator had been caught in the sting. Armed with what might very well have been a rumor, the Post handled this insanely juicy gossip with the utmost of professionalism: They sensationalized the shit out of it and stretched out the reveal as long as they could.

The Post first released the story as just the scandal, then dragged out the affair by hinting that a famous person was involved, then called that person “Senator X” and then finally published Walsh’s name.

When Walsh was accused of having gay sex with Nazis, the first thing he did was deny it. He then requested a full FBI investigation to prove his innocence. The investigation was conducted, and sure enough, they couldn’t find anything to pin on him except that the brothel owner, Gustave Beekman, swore he saw Walsh fraternizing with the Nazi gigolos, including a notorious spy known as “Mister E.y.

Although Walsh was exonerated, his career was crippled — it’s speculated that elements of the government who desperately wanted the USA to enter the war were engaged in smearing politicians with isolationist policies, like Walsh.

Dec 9,1933 – Church News article “Mormonism in The New Germany,” enthusiastically emphasizes parallels “between the LDS Church and some of the ideas and policies of the National Socialists.” First, Nazis have introduced “Fast Sunday.” Second, “it is a very well known fact that Hitler observes a form of living which Mormons term the Word of Wisdom. Finally, due to the importance given to the racial question by Nazis and the almost necessity of proving that one’s grandmother was not a Jewess, there no longer is resistance against genealogical research by German Mormons who now have received letters of encouragement complimenting them for their patriotism.

George Romney was now an Executive at Alcoa lobbying congress for the next nine years and became very wealthy.

“Thurman Arnold, as assistant district attorney of the United States, his assistant, Norman Littell, and several Congressional investigations, have produced incontrovertible evidence that some of our biggest monopolies entered into secret agreements with the Nazi cartels and divided the world up among them,” states Seldes in his book, “Facts and Fascism,” published in 1943.

“Most notorious of all was Alcoa, the Mellon-Davis-Duke monopoly which is largely responsible for the fact America did not have the aluminum with which to build airplanes before and after Pearl Harbor, while Germany had an unlimited supply.”

Alcoa sabotage of American war production had already cost the U.S. “10,000 fighters or 1,665 bombers,” according to Congressman Pierce of Oregon speaking in May 1941, because of “the effort to protect Alcoa’s monopolistic position.

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