Did Rep. John Campbell Get Schooled by Irvine Republican Activist Allan Bartlett?

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Campbell: Rebuked by OC Republican activists
In the aftermath of Monday night's news that John Campbell failed to win the endorsement of the local GOP Central Committee, allies of the veteran Orange County Republican congressman immediately launched efforts to find a positive public spin on the disaster.

For example, Scott Baugh, boss of the Republican Party of Orange County, told a reporter that the endorsement loss wasn't a sign of anti-Campbell sentiment, but rather solely representative of activists' hatred for President George W. Bush's frantic 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) that handed hundreds of billions in public funds to struggling private corporations.

"It wasn't a vote against Campbell," Baugh told Daily Pilot reporter Joseph Serna. "It was a vote against TARP."

Baugh also told Serna that "Monday's vote does not reflect a divide between tea party Republicans and the traditional conservative base" of the local GOP.

But Allan Bartlett--a longtime Irvine activist, Ron Paul supporter and Republican central committee member who led the fight to block Campbell's endorsement--says Baugh and the congressman are mistaken about the meaning of Monday's "historic, amazing, unprecedented vote."

Bartlett says the vote outcome serves as both an ideological and personal rebuke of the congressman, especially after Baugh--a stickler on party loyalty--told central committee members to back the incumbent.

"Personally, I can't forgive the congressman for voting for TARP," Bartlett told me. "TARP stands for everything Republicans should be against. But Campbell lost the endorsement for other reasons too. Lots of party members believe he's aloof. We see Dana Rohrabacher and Ed Royce all the time at party events. We never see John. Others members say he won't ever return their phone calls. He just blows us off."

A small minority of Republican Party activists voted to block Campbell's endorsement because he supported repeal of the Pentagon's "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy against openly gay and lesbian soldiers serving in the military.

Campbell, who was first elected to Congress in 2005 in a special election, anticipated that he was in trouble before the endorsement meeting. Knowing Bartlett was close to corralling the number--22--to thwart him, the congressman asked for a private pow-wow.

"We were polite to each other," said Bartlett. "He wanted me to reconsider my position and vote for him. But that wasn't going to happen. He needs to be more accountable. Hopefully, he's getting that message now. This vote was a huge public humiliation for him."

John Webb, who is challenging Campbell for the party's nomination, may have an uphill battle given that he's only got a couple of thousand dollars in his campaign coffers and the incumbent is personally ultra-wealthy. But several party members thought that the ex-cop and current insurance salesman gave an impressive, passionate speech at the GOP meeting. Bartlett agreed, saying, "Webb was tremendous."

Lou Penrose, the congressman's Newport Beach office chief, did not respond to an interview request.

--R. Scott Moxley / OC Weekly

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Allan Bartlett
Allan Bartlett

All TARP did was make the financial bubble bigger.  Bigger bubbles = bigger collapses.  The market forces have to be allowed to work or else you get these bigger bubbles which lead to huge corrections.  Our party stands stands for free market capitalism , not crony capitalism like these bailouts facilitated.  They bailed out all the big Wall Street banks and special interests and left the little guys to suffer the consequences as usual. 

Tom Gibson
Tom Gibson

This is sad. It's just another example of how out of touch the ideological fiscal conservatives are with reality. While they congratulate each other over the slap down of Campbell, they further alienate mainstream Republicans who understand divisiveness within will not serve to recapture control of the White House & Capital Hill.

Augustine 25
Augustine 25

I was in the room when Rep. Campbell lost the endorsement.  It was clear to me, as a political scientist, that Rep. Campbell was out-of-step with mainstream Republican thought on both TARP and DADT.  Moreover, it looked like he had neglected to spend enough face time with conservative activists in his district. 

Dan Chmielewski
Dan Chmielewski

Do you have any idea of the ripple effect on the failures of the auto industry and some of those big banks would have on the overall American economy?  Do you understand what a supply chain is?  Even Lincoln believed when the free market failed, it was the duty of the federal government to help the economy until it could right itself. 

The fact fo the matter is Americans pay less in federal state and local taxes today as a percentage of our income than we did during the 1950s.  Corporate taxe rates are lower than they have been in 40 years.  What costs considerably more is housing, energy, and healthcare. 

I disagree with you on this Allan.  At least you could let all your Republican pals know that TARP was the brainchild of the Bush administration. 

Augustine 25
Augustine 25

I think what our friend 909Jeff is missing is that if we had allowed market forces to work we would have transfered wealth and assets from careless people to careful people.  Anyway you look at it, we would be better off today.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Also Allan... I notice you didnt answer my question about the Honorable Mr Miller... What are you scared of? 

I mean he's been an absentee Congressman... And he voted for TARP or do you need all his money? 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Oh geez here we go... 

When was the peak of the market? I'll answer that for you it was Oct 9th 2007.  The DJIA Closes at 14,164.  and then gradually the economy begins to slow and the markets start dropping which was to be expected after a 5 year bull run.  Its part of the cycle.  Except this time all that cheap money we have been throwing around because interest rates were so low (Thank you Alan Greenspan) started to come due.  

When did the market bottom out? again I'll do all the hard work for you March 9th 2009. 

When was TARP signed into law? Oct 2008... one full year from the peak and 5 months from the trough.   

The bubble had already burst and the financial house of cards that Chris Cox was supposed to be watching came crashing in.  You want my opinion... All of this could have been avoided in the early 2000's if Greenspan didn't let interest rates fall as far as he did... A little more pain back then would have saved a ton of pain now, 

There were a lot of things done wrong with Tarp... I absolutely agree and I encourage you to read about it here http://www.rollingstone.com/po... I dont agree with all of this authors conclusions but the premise is spot on! 

So you and your friend Augustine can chose to continue to lecture to me... again a life long Republican or can do something monumental and use BOTH your ears and listen to what your base is telling you. 

The choice is yours... the Republicans kicked ass in the last election.  Sadly I fear this one wont bear the same fruit! 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Let me ask you this... Do y'all still support Gary Miller?  because other than the nifty new street he paved from the 57 to his fancy gated estate in Diamond Bar he don't show his face around here... Hell, he's moving to run for Jerry Lewis's post.  Ed Royce spends more time in my city and he's not even my Congressman. 

You know who's out of step... Its antiquated republican thinking...Like not supporting the repeal of DADT and not understanding the full impact of not saving those financial institutions when the market melted down... We aren't gonna argue tit for tat on who should be responsible, but if those huge companies were allowed to fail, then thousands of small companies that rely on financing from the them would have failed too. And the job losses would have been in the tens of millions.  Right or wrong Tarp quite possibly kept us from taking the great recession to the great depression part two.  

I am a life long republican, like my parents and grand parents and great grand parents but it isn't their party anymore... Im a Veteran, and very hawkish, and fiscally conservative. I work in the financial services industry.... but I hold to the original mantra of the party, smaller governement... Like Reagen said "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem"!

Whether you like it or not Gays are going to be a part of our society... We can either accept it or alienate them... I choose acceptance... My grand parents used to look down their noses at Gay's... Thats not us anymore... We are the party of Lincoln and the party that fought in the 60's to pass the civil rights act to give that equality to minorities... Yet they dont embrace us... Do you ever stop to wonder why?  Younger people are being raised to think republican is a dirty word... Do you ever stop to wonder why? 

Its because your'e still trudging out antiquated thinking like its the God damned fifties and Wally and the Beaver are out back playing ball... Those days are gone and they arent coming back!

The old guard in the GOP had better wake up because the people like me who are basically moderate are shopping for a viable third party... Gone are the days for me, and a lot of my friends, where we are an automatic lever pull for someone with a R behind their name... 

Michael
Michael

Federal Income Tax = 30%Social Security Income Tax=15.5%State Income Tax=10%State Other Income taxes = 4.5%State Worker Compensation Tax=10% averageFederal Inflation Tax = 5%State Sales Tax =9%Total = 84%and of course hundreds of other taxes in every utility/permit etc that you like so much.So Dan, you REALLY like this don't you?

Since you like comparing to the 1950, how about comparing it to med evil times, when Serfs paid 30% to the Castle owners. Seems that we are much worse than Serfs, don’t we?

And of course most of that money are going for killing people in the undeclared wars or for the bailouts for banksters.

Since you like the current setup, then you are either LOVE killing people or LOVE stealing somebody elses money.Take your pick!!!

909Jeff
909Jeff

Oh and by the way... the careful people you speak of are the bond traders and their bubble is next...

Allan Bartlett
Allan Bartlett

 Miller wasn't up for an endorsement.  He's off running in a new San Bernadino district now.  If he was, he was going to get blocked as well

R. Scott Moxley
R. Scott Moxley

Ahhhh, crap. SP "909jeffrey," on the same day I gave you praise for a first time good comment, you have to go and wreck it by questioning the balls of a real person brave enough to put his name on his opinions while you, well... OC needs more Allan Bartlett's--not more cowering weasels.

Augustine 25
Augustine 25

I used to teach political economy at Williams College in MA.  (I'm a Ph.D. in political science and a published author.) I think you're wrong about the implications of TARP.  A good meltdown would have been a healthy learning experience for our country about the importance of cautious investing and the necessity of taking a conservative approach in finances.  As for DADT, I think you are underestimating the proven, unhealthy aspects of the male gay lifestyle.  It was associated with STD's and Hepatitis B long before it became associated with HIV/AIDS. This isn't a matter of prejudice...it is a matter of fact.  Intellectually, the real excitement in our country is with the Tea Party Movement and those of us pushing for a restoration of our U.S. Constitution.

R. Scott Moxley
R. Scott Moxley

I don't necessarily agree with every point SP "909Jeff" made here, but I do think this might be his best, most constructive comment ever at OCW. His challenge to the weak, good ole GOP boy network is right on.

909Jeff
909Jeff

That was a study by the heritage foundation and reported in a paper in England... They just raised their Income tax to 50% and we have 50% that dont pay any federal income tax.

Yes I agree that the Federal government employes way to many people.  

And as far as tax cheats go I'm assuming you mean people who exploit legitimate loopholes to their benefit... Its not their fault those exist and if you had the means and the need to do it you probably would too.  Hell I probably do and don't even know it.  I bundle up all my records in one ugly pile of shit and mail them to my tax lady in NY who somehow makes sense of it all and sends me an e-mail a week later with how much I get back from the feds and how much I owe the state.

Michael
Michael

Well, since only half of people pay Fradulent Income Tax, then we are already half way done. Excellent. Just need to eliminate the Fradulent Income tax for the remaining 50% and we are done restoring the Constitutional order.That or just hire those 50% to Obama stuff, as it seems that most of the people in his staff are the tax cheaters.

Additionally your reply to highlight the "...that the reduction in the number oftaxpayers will create an electorate dominated by non-taxpayers, who will always support higher taxes and spending because their own money is not at stake." is grossly incorrect.

Since 50% already don't pay taxes, add to that all the leaches who work for the federal government and we are already in the dead end.

So, hopefully now you understand the government's desire to start another war, so government would distract people from this problem for a few more years, while the remnants of our economy going bye-bye

909Jeff
909Jeff

Only half of U.S. citizens pay federal income tax, according tothe latest available figures.

In 2009, just 50.5 per cent of Americans paid any income tax tothe federal government - the lowest proportion in at least half acentury. And the number of peopleoutside the tax system could have climbed even higher since as the economic downturn has continued to bite and unemployment has remained high

The decreasing number of taxpayers threatens government revenues,and could also cause resentment from those who believe that welfare recipientsare taking money out of the economy. 151.7million U.S. citizens paid no federal income tax in 2009, according to figures compiled by the Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank. In 1984, the middle of theReagan era, 85 per cent of Americans paid federal income tax, meaning just34.8million people did not.

The figures include children, the retired and others who do notparticipate in the labour force. Nonetheless, they largely reflect the sudden jump in the unemployment rate after the 2008 financial crisis and subsequent recession. Unemployment rose from around five per cent at the beginning of 2008 to a high of 10 per cent in October 2009.

As well the increased number of jobless people, the reduction in the number of taxpayers is a result of low-income workers taking pay cuts andreduced hours, and therefore slipping out of the tax system. It also includes people who illegally fail to file a tax return even though they might have earned enough money to do so. 

Another finding by the Heritage Foundation shows that 21.8 percent of U.S. citizens receive financial assistance from the federal government. This means that 67.3million people - a record high - are 'dependent on the federal government', excluding government employees who rely on the public sector for their salaries. The conjunction of fewer taxpayers with higher welfare payments has led to intense pressure on the public purse, with the national deficit running at $1.3trillionper year.

HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PARAGRAPH!  PAT ATTENTION OCCUPIERS! 

The Heritage Foundation argues that the reduction in the number oftaxpayers will create an electorate dominated by non-taxpayers, who will always support higher taxes and spending because their own money is not at stake.

This was published in the UK MailOnline

909Jeff
909Jeff

We agree on at least one thing 

Michael
Michael

and now you can see the real face of the liberal government operative!

Can't win adult argument, resort to name calling. Bye-Bye Troll

R. Scott Moxley
R. Scott Moxley

Yeah, SP 909er, I was thrown off by your earlier decent comment...

909Jeff
909Jeff

Really?  Do I need to e-mail your papi to rein you in again?  You already have Republican on republican crime going on here! 

I almost responded to you earlier too with my full name and everything you want to know so you can try to stalk me.

I guess you'll have to wait

Augustine 25
Augustine 25

You should check out Charles Murray's new book, Coming Apart. See, http://articles.latimes.com/20...  The bottom line is that those of us leading healthy lives have an obligation to share what we know with others.  Unfortunately, the world is not such a safe place and we all need to do more to provide leadership regarding educating folks about the consequences of their actions.  A Republican party that flees from reality and the work of authors like Murray won't be around very long.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Well good Dr... I dont have a doctorate merely a BA from a State school but I do have a Series 7 and 63 and  CA life and Health Licenses.  I teach people everyday how to reach their financials goals so they can retire comfortably, properly structure their estates and be able to send little Bobby to college...

Now that we've pulled them out and measured them let me tell you where your wrong and why your going to continue to lose the base of your party.  And maybe if your not so arrogant you can go back to the heads of your little club and share with them what the people they supposedly represent think.  

Again with TARP its ugly issue and can be argued for hours... Bottom line is I think your wrong.  and so do a ton of financial advisors that I work along side. And some of the  Economist whom we read and listen to. 

I understand you think I'm wrong and I'm willing to accept that.  

DADT... As a veteran who served in the Marine Corps abroad I will tell you this. I didnt think that it would be a good idea to repeal it with out proper education and training.  I would have been fine serving along side a Gay person, but I'm from California its something I was raised around and am comfortable with.  I didnt think that people from the Midwest and south would be, and it would stir up a hornets nest. Flash forward 12 years from when I served  and now is the time!  We have progressed as a society where it is becoming more and more socially acceptable.   

Now here is where you really effed up... 

"I think you are underestimating the proven, unhealthy aspects of the male gay lifestyle.  It was associated with STD's and Hepatitis B long before it became associated with HIV/AIDS. This isn't a matter of prejudice...it is a matter of fact"

To which I say... Who the hell are you to judge anyone's lifestyle?  That is the type of thinking that I was referring to what I said that the party is stuck in the 50's.  Hey, Alcohol screws up your liver... I wont judge you for having a few drinks...  Premarital sex leads to babies out of wedlock...  Would I prefer that a baby is born to a traditional family? Sure, but so what if its not! No reason to shun the mother... Am I and a lot of my "Moderate" friends pro-choice? Absolutely... I don't believe that I would have ever asked a girlfriend to get an abortion and luckily i have never been in that position but I was always raised to be responsible for my actions. I'll tell you what... I wont judge someone else who has... Its not my place.. Nor is it yours!  

Finally, dont you find it odd that you'll cite STD's, and Hepatitis and all these other "Unhealthy" aspects of homosexuality.... Yet is your wing of our party that that is opposed to teaching about safe sex.  Its 2012... catch up with reality! 

You can teach abstinence... I want my children taught emphatically that the only 100% sure way to keep from catching an STD or getting pregnant as a teen it by being abstinent... But if you choose not to, here is how you protect yourself. What is so wrong an evil with that?

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