Protest Tomorrow In Honor Of Doug Zerby, Who Was Holding A Hose Nozzle When Long Beach PD Fatally Shot Him Last December

• I hear ya... Thats why I say I'm divided on it.  I'd like to give the cops the benefit of the doubt that they were acting in the best interest of theirs and the safety of others.   Unfortunately each time you have a Kelly Thomas scenario it makes it harder to give them that benefit of the doubt. 

• I was posting as 2 separate but vaguely similar instances, but I was not there when the guy was shot. I have seen cops over react, and having family that were cops in LA and grown up hearing the racist and violent bragging when they were drunk at parties. I have an idea what happens all too often. I did not review the original post about this shooting before commenting, I did not remember if the drunk, (now deceased) was pointing the nozzle at officers, or if he was just holding it at his side or if the hose attached appeared to be a high capacity magazine for a semi automatic pistol, I do remember he was drunk and being abusive, I believe someone may have stated in a 911 call that he was armed, (often people feel they must exaggerate in order to make officers respond faster) but in the end he WAS NOT armed, and was no danger to anyone. COPS do have a difficult job, they never know for sure what is involved on each call. Perhaps that's why they make the big bucks, (& fat pensions) but brutality & over reaction is too frequently blown off, and swept under the rug. That's what people are protesting.

• I wouldnt compare this dude to Kelly... Kelly was mentally ill and unarmed.  True this dude was in fact un armed but who was going to be the one to detirmine that?  I come down on both sides here.  Did this dude deserve to die? Nah, but at the same time he did very little to avoid the confrontation.  What was he doing that warranted the cops to be called?  Why was he holding an object at night that looked like a weapon?  Why did he raise it in a manner that would make them think it was a weapon?  Kelly was a Victim of police abuse. This guy was no victim. 

• People protesting are NOT crybabies. A man who is shot to death for the crime of holding a water nozzle is not a crybaby, (he is dead). A homeless schizophrenic beat to death by Fullerton pigs in front of at least 10 witnesses is not a crybaby. Our country is going to hell because of greed & corruption when 1% of the population own the legislature. Our personal liberties are being violated daily by a spy state that is allowed to go on because of a fear mentality. Our nation is becoming a fascist state not much different than Germany of 1932. We have the highest per capita prisoner population in the world.

• Im not a cop.  I am someone who sees my country going to Hell because of a bunch of crybabies.  People need to take responsibility for their actions.

• I wonder if the 2 cops replying to this article were involved in the shooting?

• Doug Kauffman is a pussy. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a ride-along. He'd be in the back seat telling the officers "oh, don't stop the car. Something might happen to us. I need my mommy."

• the police do not need to change.  The crapheads who challenge them need to change.

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