Pre-Trial Hearings For Manuel Ramos And Jay Cicinelli, Fullerton Cops Facing Charges In Kelly Thomas Killing, Continued Until Next Month

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Manuel Ramos, left, and Jay Cicinelli
​This morning, Judge Erick L. Larsh continued the pre-trial hearings of two Fullerton officers facing charges in the beating death of Kelly Thomas.

Last time Officer Manuel Ramos showed up at the Central Justice Center he wore a yellow jumpsuit and handcuffs and sat behind a metal, mesh wall. Today, however, he and fellow officer Jay Cicinelli wore suits and walked into the courtroom through the same door as everyone else. 

John Barnett, Ramos' attorney, wasn't in court today, but his son Case Barnett stood in for him and for Michael Schwartz, Cicinelli's attorney. Barnett asked Larsh to continue the pre-trail hearing until Dec. 16 and Senior Assistant DA Jim Tanizaki agreed. So, Ramos, who is facing second-degree murder and manslaughter charges, and Cicinelli, who faces manslaughter and excessive use of force charges, will show up at the court, again, on Dec. 16 at 8:30 a.m.

Ron Thomas
, Kelly's father, says he completely trusts the DA's office, but that he will do his best to make sure there aren't too many other continuations as the case makes its way through the system. "We allowed it to be continued today, after that we're gonna put our foot down...I think defense is gonna string it out."

Thomas, who sat only a few yards away from Ramos and Cicinelli, said it was very hard to maintain composure in the courtroom this morning.

"They're going about business as usual and I don't like that at all," Thomas said. "Seeing them right beside me was tough." As his eyes filled with tears, Thomas said, "It is what it is. I am a grieving dad. I want to kill them both. Am I gonna do that? No. But, my son was crying to me to save him from those two."

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mpschwartz
mpschwartz

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Fermor332002
Fermor332002

These pigs will get theirs. They will not get out of this at all.

Garcia21
Garcia21

I feel bad for the victim in this incident, but What a hypocrite of the father to be so concerned now that his son has past away. Where was he when his son was homeless living in the street?

Lasse Ninja
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Who are you to judge the father? 

you, my friend, is the hypocrite!

Darrell  G.  Bezet
Darrell G. Bezet

THUG,S WITH A BADGE,If it was the other way around and someone killed a cop.Thay would be in jail without bail.PLUS thay would be faceing the death penalty.And it would,t take 3 year,s to put them away like it,s going to take thes two THUG,S

Alfredovs609
Alfredovs609

true, if it were the other way around, everyone present would face murder charges.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

You watch, come Dec. 16th, the defense will ask for a continuance until after Xmas so Ramos and Cicinelli can enjoy the holidays with their families. 

Ari
Ari

Don't think juries like to work Xmas. distractions outside interfere often passing on the spirits with a more lenient outcome

909Jeff
909Jeff

I wouldnt doubt if they file for and get a change of venue as well... Pugsley and Crooked Face cant get a fair trial in OC.. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

true... and even if they dont the trial will last well into the new year. 

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