Irvine Parents Who Let Minors Get Boozed Up at Parties Could Face $3K Fines

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​Remember in high school how there'd always be that one mom or dad who was so cool because she/he would let kids drink wine coolers while playing Spin The Bottle in the basement?    

Now, if officials discover you are that parent, be prepared to pay up to $3,000 in fines. 

This week, the Irvine City Council unanimously approved a new ordinance targeting "social hosts," defined as a "responsible person who makes alcohol available and/or permits the consumption of alcohol by an underage person at a gathering or event held on private property," according to The Daily Pilot

Offenders could be fined up to $750 upon first warning, up to $1,500 for a second warning within a 12-month period and up to $3,000 for further warnings, the newspaper reports. Exemptions include alcohol consumed for religious purposes, or if the host can prove he or she took measures to prevent the underage drinking.   

According to Todd Spitzer, a chair of the OC chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, about 8 percent of drunk drivers arrested in the county are under 21. 

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Ian MacKaye
Ian MacKaye

Back in my salad days I was so out of step I now look backand laugh. Even though I am now straightedge and will not consume bottledviolence I find this law hard to embrace; in fact it is causing me some discord.To the hardcore drinker, think again before your life becomes a sob story. 

jack hoang
jack hoang

funny because nfl players that wear the colorful shoes gets fined 5k

DongFace
DongFace

" [A] responsible person who makes alcohol available and/or permits the consumption of alcohol by an underage person at a gathering or event held on private property,"

So, if you are irresponsible, you've got nothing to worry about. 

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Nannyism indeed.  Perhaps there's a little more vicarious emotion:

Christina Shea's daughter (living with her at the time) was caught withMethamphetamine when Shea was mayor.  

Krom's kid jumped off a cliff recently.

Can you say "compensation"?

And wine with dinner is normal in some cultures.  Not whitebread-vacuous irvine city council apparently.

(And note that two of the five are assimilated asians who likely don't appreciate EtOH in other cultures...)

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

"Exemptions include alcohol consumed for religious purposes" -- how spectacularly stupid.  It's okay to drink for Jesus.  Yay Jesus!

How 'bout as a parent, you decide what's okay for your child, end-of-story.  The last thing I need is Beth Krom telling me how to raise kids.  For fuck's sake.

ACF
ACF

Many asians don't have the enzyme to break down alcohol, so they are essentially alergic to it. For this reason, they don't drink and look down on others who do drink. 

Dkelly
Dkelly

There are 5 city council members in Irvine - Beth Krom, Larry Agran, Sukhee Kang, Dr. Steven Choi and Jeffrey Lalloway - As an Irvine resident I support council's move to fine the parents AND the LAW states that you cannot drink legally till you are age 21.  Our city council members are just giving parents an extra incentive to make sure this law is thought of more seriously.  I will also remind you that a 14 year old Ashton Sweet was killed by a drunk driver earlier this year - although he was age 26 his drunk driving had started long before according to police and court records. 

Bdunbar33
Bdunbar33

This is a ridiculous law. Seriously, I'm from a small town in Northern California and was allowed to drink as a kid. I learned my limits this way. I wasn't stupid enough to drive, or anything like that. I actually believe that it helped me a lot to know what my tolerance is, and when I'm buzzed I need to stop. It's better to learn this type of thing at home, or in a safe environment than to do it at a bar when you are 21. We all make stupid mistakes, but it would be nice to think that the parents are responsible enough to tell the kids not to drive. I actually believe that this is a way that the police are trying to control underage drinking at parties. As they said the "responsible person who makes alcohol available and/or permits the consumption of alcohol by an underage person at a gathering or event held on private property." Basically, parties that have underage kids drinking at them. I don't think a cop is going to come knocking simply because you gave your kid a beer. They will come knocking because you gave your kid, and their 14 friends all beer and the kids are blasting music until 4AM.

Guest
Guest

  In California it is LEGALfor underage consumption of alcohol on private, non alcohol-selling premises,such as a private home, WITHOUT parental consent.  You must have thought just because it’sillegal to sell to someone under the age of 21, it must also be illegal topossess and consume, right?  Wrong!  Consider moving to Idaho where underageconsumption of alcohol is prohibited with no exceptions.

  Why would any countyenact ordinance redundant to state law? That would be a complete waste of time. Your idea of ‘extra incentive’ makes me laugh.  Irvine is now an exception to Californiaalcohol consumption laws.

  The new ordinance won’tput an end to underage consumption in Irvine, just like the eighteenthamendment didn’t stop people from drinking throughout the U.S.  It just stimulated organized crime and madesome people go blind from bathtub gin.

  Now parents are goingto be less inclined to host parties with alcohol, so kids will findunsupervised locations to drink, and then drive home.  So this ordinance could result in more drunkdriving deaths.  A supervising parent ismore likely to give a drunk kid a lift home, or just say, “Why don’t you sleephere tonight.”

Bill T.
Bill T.

It's my impression (I would appreciate any reference(s) confirming or contradicting) that in California it's legal for parents to let their under-age children drink at home. There is a difference between hosting a drinking party for teens and allowing your 17 year old have a glass of wine with the rest of the group. One teaches bad habits, the other encourages good.

Nothing like a parent endorsement to take the thrill out of an activity.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Oi vey, he was 26!  Drinking at a young age does not determine whether someone becomes an alcoholic later in life.  Ooofa.

What a nanny state California has become -- Ronnie must be rolling over in his grave.

Bill T.
Bill T.

so my understanding of what you're saying is that California doesn't ring in on parents allowing ther under-age children to ssoicial drink?

Bill T.
Bill T.

Yah, my point too, we're in violent agreement on this one.  Just hoping someone could confirm/contradict what I believe the law to be.

Guest
Guest

In California there is no state-imposed liability for hosting underage drinking parties. Notes: As of January 1, 2004, a California statute imposes social host liability in circumstances that are more limited than for other laws included in this table. The California law applies only if the underage person is under 18 years old, has a blood alcohol concentration of 0.05 percent or greater, was permitted to drive a vehicle, and was found to have caused a traffic collision while driving. See Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code § 25658.2.California is 1 of 7 states where you don't need to get the other parent's consent for their kids to drink at your house.  I think that's as long as they are over 18.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

"There is a difference between hosting a drinking party for teens and allowing your 17 year old have a glass of wine with the rest of the group."

As long as they are not restricting the later, then that's reasonable. 

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