In Alabama, "Mexican" is Considered an Offensive Word--SERIOUSLY

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A couple of years ago at an alt-weekly conference, I was able to hang out with some reporters and editors from Birmingham Weekly, drinking and trading stories about our respective homeland's bizarre politicians. Those same guys ended up leaving the Weekly recently to start their own paper: Weld for Birmingham, which is already raising all sorts of hell in the Magic City with their investigative chops.

They're kind enough to run my ¡Ask a Mexican! column, which comes at a great time given Alabama's SB 1070/Proposition 187 rip-off. Reporter Madison Underwood interviewed me this week on the issue--and that's when the fun started.

I'll let Madison take it from here:

This week, Weld got a voicemail from a lady at an America's Thrift Store location that receives our papers. The lady said they would like to stop receiving our paper because they're a Christian organization, and though our first issue was pretty mild (our first issue was Sept. 1, so we're still pretty new), recent issues have had a lot of editorial content they didn't like.

Since our paper has not had any increase in the amount of editorial content, I figured maybe it was the fact that I quoted you using the words "fuck Alabama" in my interview with you. That, I think, was the first "fuck" in Weld.

So, we Welders were, of course, curious about what it was that set the lady and the Thrifters off. So we sent our brave intern Daniel to the America's Thrift Store under the pretense of retrieving our paper rack, and we had him ask her what it was in Weld that pushed them over the edge.

She told Daniel that the word "Mexican" is offensive. Daniel asked if she meant the column, "Ask a Mexican," and she said, yes, sort of, but that the word "Mexican" is offensive. Daniel explained that the author of the "Ask a Mexican" column is, in fact, a Mexican. (And though I don't know if he explained this, I would note that when referring to Hispanic immigrant populations in my own immigration coverage, I've always used the word "Hispanic.")

This did not seem to phase her.

If "Mexican" is offensive, our state is truly, sincerely fucked
.

HILARIOUS!!! Keep fighting the good fight down there, Welders! And may God help your forsaken state...

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Robert
Robert

Just because the good people of southern california have surrendered to the liberals and the reconquista crowd doesn't mean the rest of the us has. You can have all our Mexicans.

DubV
DubV

Maybe if more Mexicans played for the Alabama Crimson  Tide they would like them more... them Southerners have always been scared of a little color added in to the mix...

Kathy
Kathy

I am from Alabama and I do not share the views of this lady.  But I do think that your use of the word "fucked" is a symptom of an inadequate vocabulary for expressing your sentiments more tastefully.

gametruthordare
gametruthordare

I bet dollars to donuts that he was go-go, swipple, the open side of the border and wanted to "Hispanic" or "Latino" instead. Circular firing squad time.XXX Board Game

Nativo Lopez IX
Nativo Lopez IX

In America, violating immigration laws with an aura of impunity in considered offensive--SERIOUSLY!

Alabama Rules
Alabama Rules

The "reporters" at the Weld are complete losers. They probably got fired from the BW and got replaced by some person who writes a monthly newsletter for their homeowners association. I'm sure that would be a huge step up for the BW.

Cecil Sharps
Cecil Sharps

so a left leaning publication is shocked that a conservative store doesn't want to distribute their product. Grab the pitchforks lets occupy the thrift store.  A mariachi band with catering provided by taco bell will put this protest on the map.

novenator
novenator

Since racism against the "black man" is no longer socially acceptable (because of all those "northern liberals"), the conservative hate has to manifest itself elsewhere, and they have now picked the "brown man" as their intended target to scapegoat.  You can usually denote who is the most racist by their prevalence in using the term "illegal alien" which tends to effectively demonstrate that they have already dehumanized these folks, regardless of their documentation status.

Dpix80
Dpix80

Gustavo Arellano once again continues  his plan of destroying everything goodabout America by pushing poverty and low-class illegal aliens into every sectorof American society.Gustavo,you do not deserve to live in this wonderful country.Gustavo,go somewhere else,soon, Stop glorifying the lawbreakers,and leave Alalbamaalone,they don't need you,or your warmed-over excuses for criminal latinos.

Marial
Marial

Funny,Mexico fought for the South during the civil war.Check your history books dumbass.

elpinche
elpinche

Alabama Rules?  Rule 1) Bang your sister 2) Burn crosses on a black man's front yard? 3) Eat squirrels ?? 

liberals are hypocrites
liberals are hypocrites

hey whats not to like about mexicans? our country is in need of more illiterate peasants who drop babies just like they drop turds at the home depot... viva la raza!!

mitch young
mitch young

This is in the top ten of the many idiotic arguments by the pro-illegal *alien* camp. Here's a clue, alien was around long before the movie "Alien", you can look it up in the dictionary, 'belonging to a foreign country or nation'.

applestoapples
applestoapples

 Do enlighten us Dpix80, with your take on what is "everything good about America". I would truly like to know, as it seems the rebel without a cause deal is seemingly not good enough for you when it comes to poor people breaking the law out of necessity. I suppose Corporations breaking the law out of profit margin incrementing is well enough for you? Mayhaps as long as they don't do it to you or your state, only to other countries where it's "out of sight" for you? Please explain, as it's quite a perplexing yet alluring idea you've got there!

elpinche
elpinche

Dpix80..or can I call you Dick?  The Mexicans are taking over. Pretty soon chicanos will be seducing your daughters. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt since you might be unmarried and living with your mom.  

Black Stocking Fetish
Black Stocking Fetish

Even If You Give Gus a Threesome With Two of Hugh Hefners Tall, Tanned, Blond, Skinny With BIG BOOBS, those Bunny Type GF's.,(Gus Prefers These Types Of Women)  Gus would Still Hate On the Righ Wing Conservative Values..  

Alarob
Alarob

You're dreaming. Tejanos fought on both sides, but Mexico stayed out. Put down your Civil War comic book and try reading something a little more substantial. 

kathy
kathy

!) wrong 2) wrong and 3)wrong

Alabamarules
Alabamarules

1) I don't bang my sister. She's my cousin. Second cousin actually. And that is by marriage only. 2) No, I don't burn crosses. That would be a waste of good wood. 3) Squirrels are too small and have too many of them bones. We prefer opossum down here.

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Reality? Check please!  Mitch, there isn't a "pro-illegal alien camp." We just trying to get you retards to start treating everyone with a little human dignity.  

Dpix80
Dpix80

Okay,Chocolate Chip Cookies,that's what is good about America. I've never had a decent chocolate chip cookie from an illegal-alien bakery.Although in certain "latino type" bars they make a drink called the "Molina" which is mostly lard and guacamole blended with crushed ice and served in a cup made of international phone cards. Hope this helps.

Dpix80
Dpix80

Elpinche,one day you and Gustavo will get what's coming to you,and it won'tbe pretty;then again,animals like you seem to enjoy filth-filled communities,where despair multiplies itself with the help of clueless politicians who thinkcatering to the illegal-alien crowd will win them votes. Elpinche,there's time to correct yourthinking,before you and Gustavo end up in the dust-bin of history. America will thrive and survive long after both of you are long gone. Now,both of you take that chip off your shoulder and start behaving like decent,appreciative Americans.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

No, I prefer Brazzers chicks, but thanks for thinking of me!

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Well, of course. Up in Minnesota we grow squirrels that are exceptional like Rocky.  You should see our moose or is that mices?  I can never get that straight. 

BTW I believe that was Rocky J. Squirrel, but I could be wrong. 

Alabama Rules
Alabama Rules

You have a point, but I just love Rocky the squirrel too much.

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

My grandfather's favorite meal was a mess of fried squirrel brains.  You ought to rethink your position on squirrels.  

college
college

No, those men were not too keen on letting my lesbian girlfriend and I join their secret club.  Something about too many boobies. 

Barraganfj
Barraganfj

@ Mitch Young:

Please see the White House Council of Economic Advisers 2007 report "Immigration's Economic Impact" which includes the impact from Illegal immigration.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse....

Francisco "Paco" Barragan

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

You're a member of the John Birch Society aren't you?

applestoapples
applestoapples

ROFL, Oh yes, mitch young! Immigration laws are moral. How about that Montevideo Convention where so many countries agreed to stay away from each other. Oh, and did you hear about Mexico's Oil Expropriation? Before spouting idealist drivel, look at facts. Laws themselves should be moral, but oftentimes are not. If you seriously think all law or any kind of law is totally moral, I've got some beachfront property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell you!ps. “What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right.” ― Albert Einstein

Iseeiteverywhere
Iseeiteverywhere

Oh please. Sure, when 'those people' stop turning this place into the dump where they came from and quit stealing and shooting people. Then we can throw some of that requested, respect and shit their way. Until then, I want them out!

richardgrabman
richardgrabman

Your "Chi-com" source is from 2009.  As it is, mostly because of the problems FOR  Guatemalans and Central Americans passing through on their way to the U.S., the laws were changed give "illegals" in transit some legal protection,  Among other things, deportation requires a hearing now.  Not that immigration laws are perfect, nor that immigrants don't face "challenges", but that it's in no way the complicated and/or expensive process it is in the United States. 

 I didn't "neglect" to tell you my salary... it's none of your damn business.

mitch young
mitch young

But, just to make sure you like my sources, Richard, here's one from the ChiCom news agency "Mexico Deports More Guatemalans than the US".  A lefty like you should like that source.

http://www.spanish.xinhuanet.c...

mitch young
mitch young

I was gonna write a long rebuttal, Richard, but no need. You just admitted my point, Mexico enforces its immigration law, even if you don't like the sources who tell us this. (We call this the 'ad hominem' fallacy in logic -- it would be like me not accepting a  fact from Gustavo Arellano because he was in the brown supremacist MEChA).  Even in your own  situation, you could only get legal by having a skill (English teaching or perhaps editing) needed in Mexico, and apparently had to have your employers support.

mitch young
mitch young

Oh, you did neglect to tell us your salary, Richard -- you can put it in terms of Mexico's minimum wage if you like. That way we can compare what you contribute to Mexican society versus what the average 'lawn guy' contributes to ours.

mitch young
mitch young

No, I got it. And made the point that immigration laws are moral, and every nation-state that I know of has them. They are moral because a nation is a community, it has the right to protect its workers wages, the right how much of its resources go to educating its own children versus children of foreigners, the right to decide how crowded it will be in the future. There simply is no moral right to cross a border and settle in a country which is not yours. 

mitch young
mitch young

I was gonna write a long rebuttal, Richard, but no need. You just admitted my point, Mexico enforces its immigration law, even if you don't like the sources who tell us this.  Even in your own  situation, you could only get legal by having a skill (English teaching) needed in Mexico. 

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Wow Mitch quoted from a white supremacist source?  I am shocked.  Shocked I tell you...

richardgrabman
richardgrabman

Lets see Mitch:  The Times article dealt with the kind of person who would be an "undesirable alien" in any country... with no visible means of support, or any ties to the country.  The second was from a right wing website, quoting an anti-Cuban newspaper about Cubans being denied entry into Mexico for the purpose of entering the United States (and, as the story didn't mention, is often with the assistance of what the Mexican and Cuban authorities consider terrorist organizations).  Not that the young woman wasn't mistreated (the the Mexican courts found) only that she didn't have a case for political asylum.   The third is from a highly suspect source, a white supremacist publication. Mr. Wall wrote for years, complaining mostly that TV talking head Jorge Ramos had blue eyes, therefore was not a "legitimate" Mexican, or that Mexican immigrants were't likely to become Republicans.  Here, he is just whining that he had to wait a week or so to finish up some routine paperwork... rather typical of him.  . 

As to my own situation, I started teaching English as a Second Language on a tourist visa and started doing  translations of legal documents (mostly commercial leases) for Mexican companies that had U.S. corporate ownership.  I just didn't bother getting legal until I went to work for a Mexican publisher as an editor instead of being a free-lancer.  Salary wazoos about Mexican wages.... I wish!  You're probably thinking of the retiree visa for people living on foreign incomes. 

mitch young
mitch young

How did you enter Mexico? Did you have a job guaranteed? My understanding is that you are required to have a guaranteed job at some ungodly rate above the  Mexican minimum wage. So please forward details.  Meanwhile, here is this story

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12...

Or Mexico deporting Cubanshttp://factreal.wordpress.com/...

Or the work of Alan Wall at the 'nativist' Vdare website (he lived in Mexico legally for over a decade, but with quite a lot of paperwork, including when he tried to get a Mexican birth certificate for this Mexican born son.---Having been born in Mexico, my sons also have Mexican birth certificates. These birth certificates were issued to my wife and myself by a Mexican registrar. ***But since I was a foreigner, the registrar required me to show her my Mexican work permit in order to process the paperwork.I had to prove I was in Mexico legally for my son to have a birth certificate!***When Raphael was born this process hit a hitch. My work permit was being renewed for the year, so it was temporarily out of my possession. The registrar would not issue the birth certificate until I had showed her my work permit. So it took us several more weeks to obtain it.---I have heard of places in Mexico where the law turns a blind eye to Americans working illegally, but those are typically young or old with no kids in the school system, imposing few burdens on the Mexican taxpayer..

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Mitch, my point was sometimes laws are immoral and we shouldn't follow them.  Amazing that you totally missed that...

richardgrabman
richardgrabman

What do you mean Mexico has strict immigration laws?  They're pretty lenient, with visa overstays being usually about a 30 US dollar fine.  I'm a former "reverso mojado" (moved to Mexico, took a job on a tourist visa and stayed), and never had any problem, nor is it any barrier to getting dual nationality... I just have to live here a few years, pay my "gringo card" fees every year (a hell of a lot less proportionally and in reality to what it costs in the U.S.) and take a citizenship test.  I figured out one time that if U.S. citizens had to pay become Mexican citizens what Mexicans pay to become U.S: citizens... comparing the U.S: minimum wage to the Mexican salario minimo...  it would cost them something close to 600K. 

mitch young
mitch young

"Well, Mitch, once upon a time there was a law that said that black people could not (insert whatever you'd like here.) "

It's ridiculous to compare the denial of basic rights to people whose ancestors were brought here, against their will, generations and generations ago to the enforcement of immigration law. Every nation has laws governing how many people get to settle --it's a basic right of a democratic government. Mexico has some quite strict immigration laws, as do other major sending nations like China (no official permanent immigration at all) and India (a 'brown India' policy, it takes Desis down to four generations removed, but nobody else).

"How much would a strawberry cost if United States citizens picked them for you? "

See above about the tiny percentage of illegals in ag, but I'll still play your game. Labor costs are about 10% of final cost of produce at the grocery store, we coiuld quadruple wages and only increase produce costs by 30%. That's assuming no mechanization, that's assuming no farmers go to a u-pik model.

indeed,  I think you'll find the wage depressing aspects of illegal immigration have as little impact across other industries. I know from my extended family that wages (and job security) in construction have collapsed over the last 20 years as Mexicans took over (not Mexican-Americans, Mexicans). Houses sure didn't get any cheaper did they, at least not until the market collapsed. Why? Labor is relatively small cost in housing, and the extra demand created by million of immigrants pushed up costs. So while illegal immigration certainly does hurt the wages of some Americans in specific industries (usually the less well off among us), it really doesn't help much with prices.

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Well, Mitch, once upon a time there was a law that said that black people could not (insert whatever you'd like here.) So this blind obedience to laws is....never mind....let's look at reality.  How much would a strawberry cost if United States citizens picked them for you?  How about a hotel room?  Think those are actually citizens changing the sheets? The southern states, including California, have depended on two types of labor to remain viable -- slave an illegal.  

mitch young
mitch young

I think it is dignified to expect people to obey the law. Making excuses for them, or trying to make out as if they don't know perfectly well they are acting illegally, is patronizing. Then again, I suspect a lot of pro-illegal caspers are 'patrones'.

college
college

Oh Dan, I NEVER ONCE referred to myself as, 'a ruler for reality'.  I am just plain REALITY!  Blow me.  Why are you comparing the income of people in The OC to the nation's median/low income?  The cost of living is not the same across the states and salaries are not the same either.  Blow me.  I lived in Salt Lake City while I was in college and the cost of living was a Hell of a lot cheaper then when I moved to Orange County.  I made less money living in Utah and make more money living in Orange County.  Blow me.  Oh, and blow me again. 

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Oh I stand corrected then.  Since you can do it at 40 a 53 year old should have no problems.  And I'm sure you're representative of the 40 year olds all across this country.  I know Orange County is representative.  Oh wait, we consider low income in OC to be anyone making less than $73,000 a year.  The median income in the US is $46,000 a year.  Well more than half the citizens in the US would qualify for low-income.  In fact, at $43,000 a year quite a few would qualify for very low income.  

Before you use yourself as a ruler for reality, you should really look into what's happening in places like San Jose, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, Bangor, Maine, you know what...never mind...Anyone who uses "blow me" as an argument wouldn't "get" it anyway.

college
college

'Never work again'?  Are you friggin kidding yourself or what?  I am 40, I was laid off from a very well paying job, I collected 2 weeks of unemployment until I was able to get another job, and then I was laid off two more times from well paying jobs and collected unemployment after the third layoff.  During the time I was working, then laid off, then working, etc., I worked a second job which could be considered more of a hobby.  I only worked a few nights a week and put more hours in on the weekends.  After my 3rd layoff I asked for full time hours at the 2nd job and I'm still 40+ hours to this day. My salary is no where near what I was making at my previous company but I am working.  Living in Orange County, paying on a mortgage for a home we bought at the peak of the housing market on a salary that is half of what it used to be is very difficult.  HOWEVER, I am working again, I am 40, I have a university education, and I know it.  Your statement about us between 40 and 68 never working again is incorrect. 

America may not be thriving now, and in the past the economy has tanked, people lost more then what we all have today but it all came back around.  I hope it does.  Sooner then later BUT IT DID COME BACK and so did American citizens.  If America is such a friggin Hell hole, going down the tubes with no future in sight, then why do 'they' come?   Boy to 'they' come.  NATGEO and the Discovery Channel are filled with 1 hour documentaries on the shit.  Comin' in tunnels, walking through deserts under dangerous and sometimes fatal conditions, inside truck tires, underneath floorboards, crammed like sardines in a VW Bug, slipping and sliding through riverbeds, dropped out of planes, by bus, during the day, late at night, very early mornings kicking the rooster in the ass!  Why?  If we suck, then why? 

"40 to 68 college educated people will never work again".  Blow me. 

Dan Avery
Dan Avery

Dpix80, I hate to break the bad news but America, as you call it, the United States as the rest of the world calls it, is no longer "thriving." We are not long for the survival deal either. Have  you looked at the "actual" unemployment figures? Not what the government says they are, but the actual figures? Have you looked at who these people are? The majority of them are between 40 and 68 years old and have college degrees. They will never work again. We all know that.  "Thriving" is not what is going on.  Get a fucking clue.

elpinche
elpinche

Someone's been drinking Mexican Tequila!!! 

Black Stocking Fetish
Black Stocking Fetish

Dude!!   I cant get Over That...I CAN SOOOOO Imagine You Viewing That..  LOL!!!   I Seen So Many Pics Of you on Google Image and You Speak at Seminars to those Type Of Chicks who have ''Brazzer'' Material..   GOD DAMN!!!     LOL!!!!    haHhHaaaaa     I Could See those Broads On Brazzers Banging A Guy Like You too...  LOL!!!     If I Was You,  I would Take all that ''Kill a White Republican'' Energy and Put it in Companys Like ''Brazzers'' since You Like Wild Latina Panoch and Your already In Southern Cali and Obviously Your Not Shy to Be able to Talk at Seminars and book Promoting..  Plus You can Attract Easily those Type Of Women..     Kind of Sad to Have High Energy,  But it's Going in a Wrong Direction Gustavo...  

Black Stocking Fetish
Black Stocking Fetish

HOLLY CRAP!!!    LOL!!!    I Can See That!!!     LMAO!!!!!    hahahaha,    MADE MY DAY!!  Thanks for that info,   Gustavo,  Seriously,  You Just Reveald some Dirty Laundry with that Reply with ''Brazzers''   Guess I was Wrong About the Blond Bunnies.    Those Women on There are Super Slutty!!   and Mostly Mexican,chicano, or Latina..WOW!!!   LOL!!

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