Santa Ana Police Threaten Occupy Activists with Arrest

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That whole "occupy" part of Occupy Santa Ana is proving to be a bit difficult.

Santa Ana Police officials and City Attorney Teresa Judd met with members of Occupy Santa Ana yesterday and informed them that the municipal code doesn't allow camping on city property.

The group initially planned to occupy the area outside the Ronald Reagan Federal Building on October 22 in solidarity with groups currently occupying Wall Street and Los Angeles.

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A recent Occupy event at the Orange Circle

According to one of Occupy Santa Ana's organizers, Sam Aresheh, this revelation hasn't put a damper on the group's plans to press forward. The 23-year-old Cal State Fullerton student insists the event will proceed, and include a prolonged occupation. 

Aresheh says he was among a small group who met with Santa Ana Officers Ken Gomisnky and Michael McCoy as well as City Attorney Judd yesterday. Once the meeting got down to brass tacks, Aresheh said things quickly went in circles: "I told him right away we're going to stage a protest very similar to Occupy Wall Street and Occupy LA, and he told me Santa Ana's municipal code doesn't allow camping."

Aresheh adds that police told him if they continue with plans to camp, "After a warning, people would be subject to arrest."

As for how such a scenario would play out, folks will have to keep an eye on New York.  The city has plans to go into Zucotti Park tomorrow where protesters are currently camped. Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has said activists will be required to remove their items and leave the park and will not be allowed to return to the park with camping gear.

  Occupy Santa Ana will be having a general assembly meeting tonight at 7:30 P.M. at Flower Street Park to discuss the logistics of the upcoming event including a possible loophole in the city code. "We're going to camp in a way that won't subject us to arrest," said Aresheh. Though the group still intends to do some protesting outside the federal building, they are now focusing on holding the bulk of the event at Santa Ana's civic center.

 Meanwhile, Occupy Orange County will be holding their own occupation of Irvine's Financial District starting this Saturday morning. Though there have been grumblings on Facebook and angry comments in forum threads about the decision to hold the Occupy Orange County event in Irvine instead of Santa Ana, Aresheh downplays rumors of tension between groups, adding he will be at the Irvine event until the start of the Santa Ana protest.

It should also be mentioned that there are now two separate Occupy Orange County pages, one featuring details for the Irvine event, and another with details for the Santa Ana event. To keep up with the plans for Santa Ana, follow them on Twitter or Facebook.

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anzastan
anzastan

While Santa Ana wants to think it is like Irvine, they need to remember that a majority of the residents are not like Irvine. The police do the bidding of the mayor and council, and they are basically hispanic in name only, being lawyers and other professionals. They have had a homeless problem in Civic Center for decades and the police even raided the parking lot behind the Legal Aid Society after that organization allowed the homeless to stay there. If aren't a friend of the mayor and council you don't get favors in Santa Ana. I say if they won't let you camp, make sure you are loud and visible, and be sure to visit te homes north of 17th street, that's where the 1% live.

Just an Idea
Just an Idea

Just an Idea....why can't protesters camp out at the santa ana river bed (federal Property) not city and just walk back at night to the river bed? Straight down 5th street?

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GUEST
GUEST

how can i get in contact with sam aresheh or anyone who runs occupy santa ana

rocio
rocio

I plan to join occuppy wall street to call to the attention of our government and show them we are fed up and what is going on is not acceptable, to call organizers and leaders to make a list of what the 99% beleive are the major issues that brought us to protest.Don't forget the government, police and media are bought by the banksters, therefore we need to demand that the power of money return to the congress as article 1 section 8 says only the congress has the power to coin money, doesn't say JpMorgan does, it doesne't say bank of america does, only the congress does if that power is return ed to congress we don't have to protest about bankers

Goldman sacks runs the government, jpmorgan chase, bank of america, they run the government, this has to stop...

rocio
rocio

Divide and conquer.... Lets not let this happen to occupiers... They all have different reasons to protest, doesn't mean they are all over the place and don't know what they want.

What it really means, there are too many things wrong in this country`

thom234
thom234

To all you "Occupy People"..i guess Obummer wasn't the savior you thought he was gonna be.  BLAME YOUR PRESIDENT, YOU ELECTED HIM!

HistoryLesson
HistoryLesson

History.  First recession, then Obama.  Don't let the facts get in the way of your stupid and uniformed opinion!

Guest
Guest

Since you are so fond of history, name three things that Obama has done successfully in the last 3 years?

HistoryLesson
HistoryLesson

Why?  I'm not an Obama supporter.  I'm just saying your precious Repuglicans are the ones who got us into this mess.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Can you believe Irvine assigned THREE motorcycle cops and a supervisor in a gold Camry to watch this little group?  The cops took this seriously.  I overheard one officer instruct them to follow out of sight, but one motorcycle was to remain visible.  Sorry, I don't understand why.  Maybe Lt. Patrick can help us out?

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20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Be sure to take lots of pics. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Hmmmm! Not so peaceful protest huh? 

CoastGuard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents

Updated:Friday, 14 Oct 2011, 8:53 AM EDTPublished : Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 10:13 PM EDT

BOSTON (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - The CoastGuard in Boston confirmed that a woman in uniform was harassed and spat uponnear Occupy Boston protesters.

The woman was walking to the train and saidprotesters spit on her twice, called her foul names and even threw a waterbottle at her.

Now, the Coast Guard is warning all staffworking on Atlantic Avenue to avoid those protesters while in uniform

Ronnie
Ronnie

That's totally comparable to the people that are getting maced, pepper-sprayed, beaten, and run over by police officers at these protests.

909Jeff
909Jeff

So one makes the other right?  Is that what you're saying?  The police are bully's so a perfectly acceptable thing to do is target a female sailor and assault her? 

What a man you are Ronnie!

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

We probably will not be camping on the Federal Property.  Don't want to go to Guantanamo for thanksgiving.  

AJ
AJ

It's not just city property - its everywhere in the city. Unlawful camping will get you cited in Santa Ana (and other cities like Fullerton) but you shouldn't be facing arrest. 

Danosaysso
Danosaysso

Kevin, if by inferring that the Occupy protests have accomplished nothing you mean have become a focal point of the national political discourse including either endorsement or rejection by presidential candidates, the much publicized attention of the mayor of New York, constant coverage and discussion by every major news outlet (cable, print ,radio, and online), massively increased awareness of the Citizens United decision and it's impact on campaign finance, a greater natioonal understanding of our hideously of kilter tax code, etc... you're exactly right. And with regards to 'hope and change' that you're 'sure' these protesters voted in, your presumptions about the political alignment of many involved are sadly misinformed.

Areyouserious
Areyouserious

What about the 110 homeless that campo in Civic center each night?

cook
cook

The civic center area is a hang out for the homeless because of the meals, and occasional clothes hand outs and medical screening. At dusk or so the homeless go to they respective hiding places until morning.

The Fed court house is manned 24 hours a day with federal police. You screw around on the lawn or near the courthouse and they will be on you like white on rice.

Kevin
Kevin

What exactly are these protesters supposed to accomplish?  All these protests are not even inconveniencing Wall Street.  The worst thing that's happening is they're becoming a nuisance to the general public....which finds these protests questionable at best.  All this "Occupy" stuff will wear thin before long and will end up being a waste of time.

I hope the LE are prudent in how they deal with these people.  By "Anonymous" suggestions, they should try to entrap the LE and cause needless lawsuits further wasting taxpayers money.  Hmmm....hypocrites much?

BTW...the biggest reasons for the financial troubles we're dealing with was brought on by the "hope and change" I'm sure these protesters elected into office!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Entrapment would indicate that protestors are doing something to somehow magically cause the police to commit acts of police brutality and false arrest.  The reality is, cops need no encouragement to beat innocent civilians and falsely arrest them.  Read the news much?  As far as wasting taxpayer money, if such an event occured it would be the fault of the police.  THEY are the ones wasting taxpayer money.  Most of them make over 100K and can retire at 50 with full pension.  As to your last and most absurd point, the Financial crisis was caused by big bank and politicans who have been bought and paid for by them.  The recession started long before Obama.  Again reading helps.

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I'm wondering the same thing, Kevin.  It reminds me of a bumper sticker I once saw:  Stop Continental Drift!   What message do they have that you want to be shared?  I haven't heard anything but platitudes.

Wickedalwayz82
Wickedalwayz82

The whole point is to be heard. We elect officials to represent the people, not special interest groups, not lobbyists and they have gotten away with that for too long.  Its gotten you, news, radio, politicians involved in the discussion. And thats the point........ not be ignored anymore.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Though not as bad as Fullerton's keystone cops, Santa Ana police have a record of brutality.  Bring video cameras and document everything.  If any incidents occur, post them on youtube immediately.  Get people to identify the officers. File civilian complaints and demand investigations. Then contact an attorney and sue the city for police brutality and false arrest.  

Robert
Robert

This is not to prevent a brutal cop from being hired by another police department somewhere else in our great country.

MeToo
MeToo

Um this may be a dumb observation and I am by no means a lawyer. But isn't the R.R. federal building "federal property"? I realize it is within Santa Ana city limits but any federal building I've ever been in is guarded and policed by federal cops. I do realize there has to be some overlap between federal and local police forces but isn't that something the protesters should look into?  

909Jeff
909Jeff

Good question BUT the area surrounding the building is jurisdiction of SanTana...AND if you enter the building and cause a disturbance you will most likely be arrested by federal authorities and then handed over to local authorities for detention and prosecution.

Xpatriot2u2
Xpatriot2u2

No way would I want to be in Santa Ana after dark. Which is not to say that the gangs there are worse than the Wall Street criminals.

KelliS
KelliS

I live in Santa Ana, and while it's not 100% safe at night you will have the protesters with you to protect you from anything. That's the point of a protest- protection in mass- although the protection a protester seeks is from a military state (police abuses). I think you should worry more about that. You're worried about a homeless person robbing you when you're up against an ultimately corrupt government that doesn't mind throwing a person in jail without legal justification. Your worry seems displaced and disproportional from my perspective.

Vertov
Vertov

Well, this is an interestin' development. The homeless in Santa Ana tend to hang around the Public Defender's office, near Ross and Civic Center, so I assume there's some toleration for overnight camping there. Camping in front of a federal courthouse would anger both local AND federal officials, and make it harder to ignore.

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

This is still less complicated than fed tax loopholes or congressional acts.   Keep up the pressure and aims.   Wall St.- Private Federal Reserve-Corporate Lobbying machine,  that is the Pyramid that cares not for our country.  Irvine and Santa Ana are united!

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