Occupy Orange County Rallies Support; Plans for Large Protest in Irvine

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At least 39 people, many fed up with the death of the American dream, made their voices heard last night thanks to the magic of telephonic conferencing. People with degrees ranging from business management to graphic design, some struggling to find decent paying jobs in a dire economy, called in to discuss the best way to lend their talents to Occupy Orange County's efforts at staging multiple protests around the county in coming weeks. 


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Occupy L.A., an offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street protests, took place in downtown Los Angeles on October 1. Click here to see more images from the protest.
The call, which lasted more than an hour was prompted by a Facebook announcement posted yesterday by the group which is loosely associated with similar groups currently operating in Los Angeles and New York. 

The goal of the protests according to the call's moderator, D'Marie Mulatierri of Irvine, was for people in the land of citrus to stand in solidarity with New York activists operating under the banner of Occupy Wall Street. A recording of the 93-minute conference call in its entirety is temporarily available online here through October 8

This past weekend, many East Coast rabble rousers were subject to mass arrests and seemingly unprovoked pepper spray attacks by police officers in New York City as they protested the collusion of government and corporate entities.

For more information on the movement, check out Weekly staffer Matt Coker's blog from yesterday.

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And for those of you ripping up your old Dead Kennedys shirts to use as Molotov wicks, the goal is to keep things civil and peaceful. The discussion in last night's conference call focused on establishing various committees to handle protest logistics, communications and food services as well as to obtain permits.  

"We need to figure out what's going to be allowed and not allowed," Mulatierri told callers. "This is a peaceful movement and we want to abide by the law as much as we can. I'd like to get through this without anybody getting arrested."

Though several Occupy Facebook pages have popped up announcing protests in numerous OC cities, it's unclear if they are all operating in concert.  Last night, participants mentioned the possibility of holding protests in Anaheim, Fullerton, Santa Ana and Costa Mesa as well as Downtown Disney. The goal of these events is to garner attention in advance of October 15, also known as Global Revolution Day, when Occupy OC plans on holding a large protest in Irvine's financial district.

With videos on YouTube showing freshly peppered New Yorkers screaming in anguish, one has to wonder how Orange County's conservative enforcers might view a populist uprising, even if it is peaceful. Stay tuned.

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Daniel Cooper
Daniel Cooper

  If government would only adhere to their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws we would not be in this horrible mess. But instead they take bribes/ campaign contributions and either give massive bail outs or they violate the Constitution by granting Retro Active Immunity from prosecution. Robert kennedy spoke out against retro active immunity..."QUOTE" (The very idea of "retroactive immunity" ... is so radical, so repugnant to the most basic principles of the "rule of law," that only one prior attempt can be found in recent history (at least from my research): the efforts by some in Congress (in 1965) to enact a law retroactively legalizing the mergers by six large banks which clearly -- as a federal court found -- were illegal under our nation's antitrust laws. The banks knew when they merged that they were almost certainly violating anti-trust laws. But they did it anyway. And when courts began ruling that their behavior was illegal, they ran to Congress to demand that a law be passed granting them amnesty, claiming that the consequences would be ruinous if they were held accountable under the law. )  But the very concept of retroactive amnesty, the idea that corporations could break the law and then have Congress pass a special law legalizing their lawbreaking conduct, was so profoundly offensive to Sen. Robert Kennedy (who had been the Attorney General when the banks broke the law with their mergers), as well as then-Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, that they engaged in extraordinary efforts to try to put a stop to this Congressional travesty.  If Robert Kennedy was able to stop them at that time in our history then we would most certainly not be in this possition today. What will happen in the future now that it is legal for judges to take bribes?How could you bring evidence of corruption and violations of the LAW when you have a court that has been granted RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY for taking bribes.   The change must start with the courts. Without a fair and unbiased court you can not have JUSTICE, YOU CAN NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF DUE PROCESS. In the constitution the right to due process is stated over and over again. Our founding fathers knew the dangers when judges could be bought. They knew the dangers when the financial institutions became too big.  SECTION FROM SBX211  This bill would provide that no governmental entity, or officer or employee of a governmental entity, shall incur any liability or be subject to prosecution or disciplinary action because of benefits provided to a judge under the official action of a governmental entity prior to the effective date of this bill on the ground that those benefits were not authorized under law. (NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW) SBX211 IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

HISTORY OF RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES1. given for illegsl use of torture2. given for illegal merger of banks ( we can see the effects of that now )3. given to telecom company for illegal wire taps. (Fisa bill that led to the patriot act)4. given to Judges for taking bribes. (SBX211)

Occupyoc
Occupyoc

We are planning a march to PIMCO. (one of the largest traders of US treasuries, and the manager of the world's largest mutual fund)

Work
Work

I am a white male college degree in Bus. Mgmt.  Majority of you protesters are typical white lazy people getting caught up in the excitement... While others, i.e. immegrants/minorities with morals are applying for jobs today and taking them from you because they work and save and do not go into debt.  Don't blame success stories of others on your self pitty and laziness.PS. You think times are tuff now, go home and ask your grandparents what it was like in the south during the GREAT DEPRESSION.  We still have a lot to be thankful for.

Tato15
Tato15

Getting permits for an occupation?? Haha, what a joke!

Desert Ghost
Desert Ghost

C'mon, jump on the band wagon!  Free admission to Disneyland.  (Who cares if they don't make money to pay their employees.  Screw corp greed!)  Apple stores should be giving out free Apple stuff because Jobs was one of us.  (Well, one of us if we had tons and tons of money and provided thousands of people jobs and paid lots of taxes.)  Grab your dirty sleeping bag, leave the soap at home and lets get Tricky Dick out of Nam!  Attica!  Attica!  Power to the people!  A living wage of $20 an hour.  (Who cares if a Big Mac will cost $10!)  Why should we have to pay our student loans back?  (Stop asking me what size gun they held to my head to make me take out a student loan in the first place!)  Where's Abbie?  Put on some Jefferson Airplane and get down there in your Volvo.  (So what if your accountant said to lease it.  Screw the mileage restriction, pedal to the medal baby.)  All you employees at Starbucks with Masters degrees, starting giving out free lattes.  We are bringing the Man down!

Bilwor1083
Bilwor1083

I don't know if half of these protesters know what they are protesting about, but it is nice that the middle class has finally started a movement. I had my pay cut 20% when the economy tanked and that shouldn't even be legal. The owner laid off the less productive employees and they received $300 for unemployment, some for almost two years, while the hardest workers were kept and had their pay cut. I was clearing $324 a week for working 40 hours. Two months later the owner went to Jamaica. My condo is now in foreclosure. I feel like I am being held hostage at work, because I need that $324 a week for food, rent, transportation to work, etc., so I can't quit and look for another job, if their is even one out there. This is just my situation, but it is happening all over. My company is just one of many that has cut employees pay. The HOA fees went up $110 a month for my condo, because of all the foreclosures around the complex and I am getting paid less. What sense does that make?. The president of the HOA doesnt even live in the neighborhood and owns five units, and I'm sure she is buying more now that they are only worth $30,000 after they sold for $120,000 five years ago.  My point is that Wall Street and the goverment favoring the wealthy has gone on long enough. Hard working Americans that have families, just like the rich, are getting food taken out of their mouths. No more!

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

In the mean time, L.A. City Hall,  this Saturday, one week progress!   

ingebirds
ingebirds

I don't think we need to be concerned how the police will react to protests in Orange County. I participated in many protests regarding the first and second Iraq wars in San Francisco. We are shaking up the establishment and they will want to stop us any way they can. We can be as peaceful as we want but if the police are told to get rid of us, they will and people will be arrested and clubbed. That is part of the way things go. I don't know of any peaceful protests where this does not happen. I was around in the 60s and it appears we are headed for a revival of those times. I suggest that we bring helmets, bicycle helmets are good and face protection. I live in Anaheim and have been looking for a local protest. I am disabled but ready to go! I just can't make it to LA right now. I want to help the movement any way possible!  

Sharon Tipton
Sharon Tipton

Many of us who are getting involved don't want to have it in Irvine....Irvine?? We want it in Santa ana. The 5 people who voted on this live in Irvine. Santa Ana has the densest population in OC. We need to give ALL people a voice. We hope this group will start to abide by OWS pattern of democracy by consensus soon, but if not, we'll see you in SA. We'll see u in SA anyway! Maybe we'll have our own...one which allows each participant to state his opinion, not have it written down for us ahead of time.

Brooke
Brooke

and yeah Im trolling the Article talking about the organization Im a part of... the event im participating in organizing.

OccupyFullerton
OccupyFullerton

@ Brook, I smell a troll, so don't waste your breathe.  

Joe
Joe

I have a good job, my wife has a good job, were both middle class. I can buy whatever I want, travel wherever I want and raise my kids in a great country. Why would someone like me want to join this? I could be a 1%, it would take a lot of work, but I have that right, just like you! Instead, you guys just want to complain about it and have someone hand it to you. And could someone please tell me what you want your end result to be???

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

L.A. Times had interesting article about protest against bankers conference in Newport Beach. Today.   

Lets Decolonize
Lets Decolonize

I signed up for the conference call but was never contacted, I made a comment on the Occupy Irvine (used to be Occupy Santa Ana) page about people in SA already doing a lot of work to better the community, that got deleted. I don't understand why or who made the decision to change to Irvine...I thought or hope this would be democratic. I understand to be out in the streets to show support to this movement is important but the work really lies after.That then what? After we put the signs down and people go home, then what? There's a lot of organizing work to be done. It just doesn't happen by holding a sing. There's a lot of people in Santa Ana working hard on issues that affect Santa Ana citizens and yet I haven't seen anybody from Occupy OC contact people that have been doing work for years. I think its important to acknowledge that and help people that have been making change already. Let's join energies. Also, if its called Occupy than why is there permits needed? U can be pacific with out permits. Its not occuying its just working with the oppresive system to help us "occupy". True revolution doesn't happen by asking for permession it comes by the masses taking whats ours. I'm sad I was excluded from the call.

Xpatriot2u2
Xpatriot2u2

The momentum is growing for this movement and I hope it continues. 

Clarice
Clarice

PS: No Bullhorns in the OC without a permit.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

D'Marie -- What is it you want?  I mean specifically.  Say Jesus flew down from heaven on this magic carpet and said you can have anything you want -- how would you answer?  BTW, no weasel words like, "give the power to the people" or "take back America".  What do you hope to accomplish?

Frankly, it all sounds like protesting for the fun of it. 

Jj26
Jj26

hhhhhhhhh  food    for thought or should I say  Why are the rich always getting rich and the poor getting poorer ????????????????????????????????????????????

wHAt iS  wWRONG WITH THIS-------------When will the people wake

 up???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

DontFearCops
DontFearCops

Videotape everything.  Post on youtube.  Identify officers using excessive force.  Demand they be investigated, disciplined, fired, prosecuted.  Sue for damages.  Repeat.

Tato15
Tato15

Hey Sharon do you live in Santa Ana? If not, why the hell would you come to OUR community without asking US first?

Lets Decolonize
Lets Decolonize

yes! Thank you. I felt it wasn't inclusive and undemocratic. Santa ana is where the courts are a fed buidling and a police state.It would and awesome place to demand the voice of people of color to be heard.

Brooke
Brooke

and since im not speaking, but typing, no worries no breath wasted tralalalalalala

Brooke
Brooke

I smell a coward with a fake name and no pic! have a nice day

Bill Lewis
Bill Lewis

In response to why this movement is important to you I would make a few points:

1) This country is meant to be "for the people, by the people" not "for the corporations, by the corporations". Right now no matter what side of the political spectrum you are on you can be sure that your leaders are bought and paid for by corporations and are making decisions with their best interest at heart, not yours. For now that may not be effecting your specifically negatively, but it is many Americans, and it could you some day.

2) You mentioned you have kids. I assume that they go to school. Right now politicians bought and paid for by corporations are pushing to cut spending on education while refusing to consider closing tax loopholes that would bring in much needed money to help pay for the much needed fixes to our schools. I understand that reform is needed in our educational system to get it back to where it should be (top in the world), however, underfunding it while handing out corporate welfare is not the way to do it.

3) You are right, we have a great country, but we didn't become great by bowing down and accepting an unfair, unethical, and immoral system just because it felt good for us at the time or just because we had a chance to become one of the elite. This country was founded on the principle that all people are created equal, not that an aristocracy should have control over our government. Right now that is the situation and even if it were working perfectly and everyone did have jobs it would still not be right. I am all for people having the chance to become part of the 1%, I am not okay with them controlling our government once they get there.

Regarding your statement that we would like to have someone hand us success. What basis do you have for this statement? Most members of this movement are either college graduates or students who have done everything they are supposed to do to begin getting ahead. I also haven't heard anyone saying they want anything handed to them, only that they want a level playing ground that is not controlled by an aristocracy of the wealthy elite. No one is saying you don't have the right to get rich, only that that fact doesn't give you the right to run the show in favor of yourself while forgetting about the rest of society.

As for the goals, I would direct you toward the many post above that address this and also to the FB page which has a large amount of information. In short though I would point to a quote from a protester in NY: "We are elated that this is spreading. If nothing else comes from this, at least we started a dialogue." - Victoria Sobel

Brooke
Brooke

you probably didnt see the message, it was sent to other mail. A group is not a friend on fb so it didnt go to your regular mssg box also the # was postedon the fb page the afternoon before the call. Feel free to get the movement going in santa ana, the plan is for demonstrations all over the county.

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

 So true, no more weekend revolutionaries.  o.k. o.k. let's try not to loose whatever pathetic pay checks/ day jobs  we still have, but let's commit.   Santa Ana is the County Seat and the home of the most important artistic and cultural energy.   So I say, do Irvine.   Do Orange Plaza (join up with Code Pink demonstrations and Chapman U.) and ultimately do Santa Ana.  Ronald Reagan Building!   I can see Calacas  refreshing the troops right now.    October 5th, today, huge for New York.    

D'Marie
D'Marie

@ad446b0ece2cc4391b06804db721931e:disqus  . . .we regret you did not get your confirmation with info to attend the call. We did the best we could to ensure those who wanted to be on the call to be able to. We had almost 100 people RSVP to be on the call. We utilized Facebook to reach everyone. It is a logistic nightmare to try to email everyone privately...we just don't have the human power to do that. We were giving the phone number out even as the call was going on.

A recording is posted online if you wish to listen to it. As far as a Revolution, we like to think of this movement as a Evolution of a Revolution. In other words, what you resists persists...force is not the answer. We will stand in solidarity, peacefully...and make a statement that the people wish to be governed by their own people, not the corporations. The state of the economy did not happen overnight. It did not happen because of one political party or another. It happened because an insidious banking cartel began plotting this in 1913 and it has escalated to where we are today.

We are planning a progressive occupation of cities throughout all of Orange County, including Santa Ana culminating in Irvine on October 15th. If the occupations continue on past the 15th, it will be decided by General Assembly if the occupation will be moved to Santa Ana for the duration.

We are creating a win-win situation where everyone can feel included, while informing the corporations they are not people and they do not have a right to pay for our elections or to influence our policy makers. We then will show the government that we want the corporate stranglehold lifted from our government. As long as corporations own the government, no type of change will ever develop because they keep throwing money to shoot down the new proposals that do not benefit them.

You are right, there is a lot of work to be done, so please volunteer for any of the committees you feel qualified to be a part of. All info is found on the facebook page.

OccupyFullerton
OccupyFullerton

Jesus isn't a genie.  And it sounds like your just making excuses why not to participate.WE ALL HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO CHANGE WHAT WE DO NOT AGREE WITH!  The corruption in this country is getting worse and it's at the expense of humanity- food -our environment and wild life! Wake up!

MayhemInTheHood
MayhemInTheHood

One easy "tell" is if they're just simply protesting, yet wearing bandanas and/or covering up their faces. If they're about to commit some serious crime, I can understand that. But otherwise, it's just basically playing dress-up as a protester. 

Brooke
Brooke

We are OCCUPYING SANTA ANA beginning Sat 10-22-11 @ Ronald Reagan Federal Bldg. and Courthouse this will be an ongoing Occupation... please visit OccupyOrangecounty.com if interested in participating.. fb page http://www.facebook.com/#!/eve... please spread the word...     

Chris
Chris

Your off on the spending cuts to education.Obama increased pell grants from 2 billion to 13.5,2009- $109 billion was spent on DOE, with a 11% increase in 2011.Plus in his jobs bill, if it passes and lets pray to god it doesn't because most of it goes to his Union buddies, increases it to 60$ billion.. with $35 billion slated to prevent layoffs. Plus $120 billion has been set aside to repair and fund building projects to modernize schools.So I dunno where your getting your cut info from, because from all sources I have found on fed sites, and articles online say otherwise.

Tato15
Tato15

Why would you just go and "occupy" a city without asking its residents what they think about your action? This is really a slap in the face for people who have been doing work for years in our communities.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

"It happened because an insidious banking cartel began plotting this in 1913 and it has escalated to where we are today"

Oi vey.  Conspiracy theories?  Look, I was at least willing to listen because there is plenty wrong with our existing financial system and government, but conspiracy? 

On a smaller note:  get off of Facebook and have one of your members setup a website.  Costs are negligible. 

S.A. Artist
S.A. Artist

 Many of us don't Tweet or Facebook, so please update with OC weekly.   Huh,   O.C. Weekly?!   

Brooke
Brooke

This community is comprised of individuals that want to stand in solidarity with their fellow citizens that are occupying Wall Street, Boston, Chicago, Washington DC and many other cities to help voice the discontent with the current inequalities in this country. We have lost our vision as country, where every man, woman and child has the right to work, have a roof over their head, clothes on th...eir back and food in their stomachs. The corporations have been given the capital "C" as a person and the right to contribute to election campaigns, to lobby for laws that hurt the people but benefit them. The tax loopholes benefit the rich and we have huge corporations not paying taxes while Americans that can hardly make it from one pay check to another have to pay more and more taxes.  Our jobs have been lost, wages and benefits are being cut and more and more people are being evicted from their homes. One in five people in Orange County are at food risk!  Many people in Orange County have lost their jobs, are being forclosed on, their unemployment has run out . . . its not getting better, unless we make it better. WE ARE NOT HERE TO BE VIOLENT OR CAUSE MAYHEM! WE SEEK CHANGE IN A NONVIOLENT WAY! 

Bill Lewis
Bill Lewis

I agree that it is the government that is the problem right now, however, part of the problem is the level of control that corporations have over our government. I think if you were to talk to most supporters of the movement (I am of course hypothesizing here as I don't speak for them) they would tell you that they understand that the reform happens through government. The idea, however, is to ensure that the message is heard throughout the country and that a discussion is started. Like I said in a reply to another post up higher, the largest threat to our nation in my opinion is doesn't come from one political extreme or the other or from any faction within (business, labor, special interest, etc) it comes from the apathy of the American people. I would love nothing better than to see Americans who disagree with this movement protesting across the street from those who agree with it, that is how change for the better comes about. People from differing viewpoints come together with their ideas and compromise on what is the best way to move forward. This is something that Washington seems to have forgotten lately, but it is because we have let them through our apathy and therefore we can only blame ourselves.

Chris
Chris

Is ok. It happens.. No point in busting your balls over it lol.Look all I am saying is that the people are protesting businesses when they should be protesting the political base in Washington. That has been my argument from day one.It is not businesses and corporations faults when it comes to taxes and them bending tax laws and deductions in their favor. We all do that on our taxes, thats the whole point.. its out little f you to the feds.Yes I agree the tax code is a complete joke in its capacity to do what it is meant to do and yes much reform is needed. But the problem is with Washington itself...no term limits, lobbyists, no viable 3rd or 4th party options, wasteful spending of tax payer dollars, social programs and pensions that are unrealistic for sustainability, green energy nonsense that is not economically viable, and immigration enforcement and reform.Those are the problems.

Bill Lewis
Bill Lewis

I apologize, you are correct I misspoke. The cuts I was referring to were at the state level, not the federal level, however, they are just as damaging and the same corporate interest are at play. Consider that in CA for example there is a push to add an oil extraction fee that would raise 2-3 billion a year for education without raising the cost of gas (by law companies could not push the cost to consumers). CA is the only state not currently charging this fee because it has been pushed down by the oil lobby every time it has come up.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=vi... - info on state school cutshttp://www.rescueeducationcali... - info on oil extraction fee

WrenchThrower
WrenchThrower

Our jobs have been lost: People need to stop blaming illegal immigrants and start realizing that illegals only take jobs that most people don't even want. I do think we need immigration reform, but realistically, that will have a negligible impact on jobs. (I think the impact will be seen in social services more than anything, but that's another discussion).

Home eviction: I wholeheartedly agree that personal responsibility is necessary. People should have looked at their own finances to see if they could really afford purchasing a home. However, no financial entity was ever FORCED into providing a loan. Financial institutions are in the business of making money, not providing handouts, and the risky loans were making them tons of money. Many in the industry who were seeing the dollars come in were more than happy to continue offering 0% down or something ridiculously low. The loans were repackaged and securitized for the bank's benefit, and no one else, so I hardly feel bad for the financial industry (of which I am a part of).

Unemployment: Let's say you're receiving the equivalent of $10/hour in unemployment. Would you take any old job, one that pays minimum wage, just to be employed? I doubt it. Also, not everyone who is unemployed is lazy. Some I know are financially secure and are now taking their time looking for the next step in their career. Of course, I don't doubt that there ARE people who are lazy... but I won't generalize.

There are no jobs: Good for you. America needs to go back to providing actual goods and services. And good luck, because the recession means people are spending less since they are earning less. It's sort of a negative feedback loop. I think it's very difficult for most people to have the resources to succeed in this economy, but entrepreneurship and innovation is what we need.

My income fluctuates based on production, so one year I got a refund while another I had to pay a significant amount in taxes. I don't complain about the taxes I pay because I know it's my fair share. Public works-- transportation, defense, education, etc-- is needed for a civilized society to function. It just seems that over time, these corporations (who have now been given the ability to act as persons in the way they contribute to political campaigns, thus influencing rules and regulations, or lack thereof) are not paying their full and fair share back to the greater good that they benefit from. Those in Washington (both the GOP and Democrats) need to wake up and remember who they serve: THE PEOPLE.

Brooke
Brooke

btw thanks for visiting the site lol

Punkndrublic911
Punkndrublic911

Our Jobs have been lost:  Correct.  The middle class is lost because illegal immigrants stole working wage jobs and drove the working wage downward.  Hence benefits are being cut, because those human rats will work for nothing.

Home eviction:  Many of those people shouldn't have been in homes in the first place, they didn't have the credit history, the job history or the income to support it, however, since Barney Frank said home ownership was a right, banks wer forced to do risky loans (and pressure is right back on again) and now we have a massive issue.  If home loans were given based upon history, many would have been renters.

Unemployement is BS:  I hire, have been hiring and I hear time and time again, "well, I have to earn this much in order to get off unemployment".  I've stoped hiring and now do all of the work myself instead of bringing on one of those lazy shills.

There are no jobs:  No one would hire me so I started my own "C" company.  That is the American dream.  As was told to me yesterday by a European intern, "America is great because you have the spirit to start your own business and make it on your own, not having your hand out for everything.  Europe is in trouble becuase immigrants take the low paying jobs and everyone else is trying work for the government so they can get a fat pension after three years."

The poor in this country don't pay taxes other than consumptive ones.  My income was too low recently to pay taxes.  The only reason you pay taxes if you make below 85K is you are too stupid or too lazy to take all of your deductions/exemptions/log miles/meals/health care costs/etc.  If you go out and find yourself a good EA, get a good strategy in place and keep records, the system is such that you will owe little.

Get a grip you lazy fools.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

A very thoughtful answer.  Good luck with the protest. 

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