[UPDATED With Email From an Arrested DREAMer] Five Undocumented College Students Detained at ICE Offices in Los Angeles After Sit-In; Three from Orange County

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UPDATE, 2:39 p.m.: Francisco Javier Bravo, one of the arrested OC DREAMers, sent out an email to friends explaining the reasoning behind the protest.

"Hello Family/Friend/Ally," his email began. "Today I will be risking arrest to bring attention to one of my very important issues."


We are demanding President Barack Obama to grant all DREAM Act eligible youth Administrative relief through an executive order. Last year Congress failed to pass the DREAM Act through the Senate and DREAM Act youth are still at risk of being deported without hope of DREAM act passing in this congressional year.   

Undocumented youth, the immigrant community and supporters were hopeful that the recent announcements by President Obama and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would bring relief to DREAM Act-eligible youth by putting an end to their deportations. However, due to programs like Secure Communities and 287g, and the lack of a clear mechanism of implementation, the numbers of undocumented youth who are incarcerated, shackled and deported to countries they barely know continues to rise.  

Please sign in the petition to support our efforts in asking President Obama to grant DREAM ACT eligible youth Administrative Relief through an executive order. The petition only takes two minutes to sign.    

As I will be risking arrest I will also need your help in raising money for my bail. I understand many of us are going through tough financial situations but your support would mean a lot to me and the whole undocumented youth movement. Please follow the link for more info; donations of any amount would be appreciated.    

As a Dreamer from the Orange County Dream Team we will continue to advocate for the rights of undocumented students. Today our voices will be heard in Orange County and through out the nation. Thank you so much for your support now, in the past and the future.


ORIGINAL POST, Oct., 12, 1:11 p.m.: We just got word that five undocumented college students purposefully walked into the offices of the Los Angeles branch of ICE an hour ago, staged a sit-in and were detained by the Los Angeles Police Department for refusing to leave.

Three of the students are members of the Orange County DREAM Team.

A press release by DREAM Team LA stated the action happened "to demand that President Obama stop the deportation of undocumented youth and allow them the opportunity to apply for work authorization."

Arrested were Nancy Meza (famous for antagonizing KFI's JohnKen pendejos so much that they read her cell phone number on the air) and Neidi Dominguez of Los Angeles, and Tony Ortuño, Francisco Javier Bravo, and Adrian Gonzalez, all of Orange County.

OC DREAM Team organizer Vanessa Castillo told the Weekly, "I'm sad that good people who, on other days are out doing great work in their schools and in their communities, have to put a stop today to their daily lives, to participate in these actions to have their voices be heard in the name of justice."

More details to come as they become available...

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Francisco Franco
Francisco Franco

I'm glad that the Spanish changed the life of the Aztecs and the other tribes throughout Mexico and parts of the United States. They were big time barbaric and they would sacrifice their own people. However, we changed that. I don't regret it at all. What I don't understand the people wanted Independence from the Spanish? Fine, we give them their Independence and later they become more worst than before. I think its time for the Spanish to claim Mexico and teach you guys how to clean up corruption and cartels unless you sell yourself out to any other country. Do yourself a favor and return back and clean up Mexico and we can all be in peace. I will respect you and you respect me.

John
John

I'm quoting VDUB

"This was the Bronze continent before your pale skin buddies came to kill all the Natives, rape our women, and kidnap our children."

Read it carefully folks. This is the mentality deeply rooted into these "mexican illegal's" who come to the US in vengeance of what they believe was an invasion of their property. They come here for revenge, they come here to take what they THINK is rightfully theirs. And if we keep giving, they will keep asking for more and more and more.

Let's assume that California was left to the Mexicans. What would become of it? Nothing much, it would probably be a crap hole like the rest of Mexico is today. What good is that? Not good at all. 

Why don't these citizens go to Mexico and protest their government in flocks? Because they would probably get gunned down by the Mexican Army. Yet they think they are in a position to criticize our government, our citizens, our country; for not giving them what they don't deserve. For standing up for our rights. Until every AMERICAN CITIZEN has the right to a FREE college education, there should not be ONE! NOT EVEN ONE! ILLEGAL getting a US education for free. 

From an economists point of view, this is a complete clusterf*ck and it doesn't make any sense. If California has so much left over budget from sales taxes, then maybe legislature should seek the idea of lowering the sales tax rate, yea it's almost 10% in CA.

Francisco Franco
Francisco Franco

In the end, they will get deported and I can guarantee!! We will prevail. They should focus their anger to Mexico City, DF not Washington, DC. Why blame the American Government for their recklessness? Paisas, need to stand up and say no more. They need to get their shit together.

John
John

If being legal in the US is soo important then stand in line and file for the right to be here. Otherwise GO HOME and stop costing us so much money. Protest in your own country not ours. I hope you dont get bailed out but deported!!!  GO HOME!!!!

Businss
Businss

Good afternoon,

Instead of all you people talking your Shit, Shut up and do something about it! or do not open your Mouth and get back to what you do best Talking shit or lingering around! 

bigriggs
bigriggs

"We demand"..... what a joke.

 "I'm an illegal and I demand that you grant me citizenship now or I will bitch and moan each and every day about how unfairly I am treated for breaking laws. I will demand that I be given the rights of any and all legal citizens of this country. I will not do the right thing and return to my home country and try to become a legal citizen of the USA. I will not blame my parents for the position they put me in, I will blame everybody under the sun besides myself or my parents. I will continue to drain the resources of the state I live in using social services meant for those less fortunate legal citizens, I will demand the rights and liberties of all Americans, including all of the legal immigrants to this country that have gone about it the right way.... I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!"

Otribj.
Otribj.

How DARE you demand anything. First of all, you're not a citizen; Second, you're a criminal. Even if you were brought here at a young age, you're old enough now to know your ILLEGAL. Instead of going about this the right way and staying within the law, beginning the citizenship process, you choose to continue breaking the law, demanding rights that aren't your's to begin with. You'd rather have me pay for your education, than for you to work for it. The scream act, is WRONG on all kinds of levels and the only reasons politicians are for it, is because it's an election year. I worked a full-time job while earning two M.S. Degrees, never once thought of asking for help and I'm a citizen who served 4 yrs in the Marine Corps. Was I entitled to it, damn skippy I was. Was I going to put the burden on someone else, hell no! Neither should you. If you're not happy here, go back to the country of your parents and demand the same shit there, see what you get.

Chris
Chris

The whole problem then becomes an incremental issue. First it was with private tuition funds, next up it was public money, now whats being floated is well since they are in the system and cant work without citizenship lets get them citizenship. This is wrong on so many levels.I had to reapply for my citizenship when I moved to Canada and my parents brought me there. We had to go back thru the system and wait before we could come back in this country and have our status restored as American citizensWhy did I have to wait when I could have just came across and leach off the tax payers and get all these social programs? I mean why not right?I am sorry, we can not afford it. The simple fact of the matter is we are in a 32 billion dollar hole in this state. And its going to increase. One because the last 12 years between reps and dems, they have destroyed the economy here for businesses. Second, how are people that are effected by this going to help this state when they can not even be employed as they are illegal? And DO NOT PAY TAXES (consumable taxes only make up a small percentage of the take for this state).This is one of the biggest con jobs this state has seen. Recall them all, Jerry Brown... Dems, Reps, all of them as no none of them represent what 70% of the voting public is in favor of.NO AMNESTY. NONE WHAT SO EVER. You want citizenship? You have to apply like everyone else.

DubV
DubV

When will people who have rational and logic arguments begin to have healthy discussions instead of flinging insults, sound bites, and unrefined generalizations?

That's when things change when people agree not disagree.

All you smarties; go read a book.

Nativo Lopez IX
Nativo Lopez IX

These misplaced Mexican miscreants need to have their hands bound, their feet shackled and their asses flown far south of our nation's southern border. California's schools met their cholo quota decades ago and now our state is paying the price with what are arguably the most wretched institutions in the world. When will Mexico get off its intoxicated derriere and start creating a social and economic system worth living in? We're tired of getting your junk mail! 

Maria Reyes-McDavis
Maria Reyes-McDavis

Kudos to officers for actually doing their job. The Dream Act is just another liberal bill shoved down the throats of the few in this state that are actually legal and taxpaying citizens. Only in California is punishing those who break the law seen as inhumane. 

Gilberto Torres
Gilberto Torres

I attend CSULB, and even the president of the school lobbied for the dream act to be passed. Business wise, this is a sound and reasonable strategy. Governor Browns singed law was only the begging and there is still alot of work to be done. It's unethical to tell undocumented immigrants in financial stress they can afford college while at the same time, they risk deportation. I'm anxious to see government subsidized healthcare for illegal immigrants as well. Anyone organizing a protest for their release?

DubV
DubV

Hey John, you were talking about illegal taking things and it proves that your ancestors took and exploited more than any migrant workers will take.  

Our history is deeply rooted in this continent because it is our homeland; your homeland is across the Atlantic Ocean- if you want to go historically geographical.  

The people that come over don't have an ideology like your proposing.  Someone who supports immigrants, workers, and people doesn't have to be undocumented.  You and the "we" you refer to have given nothing to anybody- every civil and immigrant right has been accomplished due to the power of the people and political pressure.  

California was Mexico before Euro-Americans came through.  Southern California was a desert before water was stolen from Northern California and the Colorado river so most of the land of ranch land and people resided mostly on the Coastal regions.  Most Californios were an extension of the Hacienda system which was overthrown after the Revolution of 1910.  Labeling an entire country as a craphole is just ridiculous- why are there so many Euro-Americans during spring break in Cancun and Cabo.  Why do College kids party in Tijuana? Why are there so many Euro-American and European tourists in Mazatlan, Veracruz, and Guanajuato? The things you say have no logic they only exist in your imagination. They are not Mexican citizens; the U.S. is unique due to slavery creating birth right citizenship here in the United States.  Immigration is a global occurrence that have been caused by the exploitation of resource rich lands taken by military powers- that's the historical issue.  

Euro-Americans were able to go to College without fees prior to prop 13 passing in California.  After that passed education has seen a steady decline along with services due to lack of revenue from lack of tax collection on newly acquired properties.  

CA DREAM Act doesn't make college free for anybody.  Students pay into CA's system but will have opportunities in the future to receive returns for their deposits in CA's budget.  There are no illegals only undocumented people; it's interesting how people twist words and rhetoric with no facts or documentations.  If you would stop ranting and start reading and becoming informed then you would understand where and how money is spent in the state- scapegoating immigrants doesn't help anybody.  Sales tax is only a very small portion of the budget.  Taxes from alcohol, tobacco, lottery and citizens make most of it.  Agriculture business pay a low rate for the amount of State resources they consume to grow, pick and distribute produce and dairy.

Getting financial aid doesn't make College free it makes it affordable.  

DubV
DubV

What non sense are you continuing today with Paisas? and DF? The United States' Mexico policy is what prompts immigration, if you don't want the workers then demand U.S. manufacturing companies move to China! Lol

DubV
DubV

They are home John.  And if we are calling on people to go home you should go back to England or Europe- whatever land you white devils were spawned from. Lol.  Really though you should return.  Then you wouldn't have to deal with the Native American genocide, Black slavery, Jim Crow, Lynchings, Racism and State sponsored oppression you created over the years. You will be happy to reunite with your Anglo-Saxon-Scandinavian-Celtic-Bavarian brethren. Won't you?

Guest
Guest

I guess the same could be said for you. What you doing to change things?

DubV
DubV

Actually the quota system currently in place does not support the amount of resources the United States exploits from Mexico through manufactured good and natural resources. Which laws are they breaking? They were brought by parents in a effort for social mobility just like the last 200 plus years except now they can't return due to the militarization of the border.  Having a basic knowledge of the history of the United States why did the U.S. annex Mexico if it didn't want Mexicans? It makes no sense.  As far as social services they are barred legally; even if their children are U.S. citizens.  Most AB540 students pay full fees out of pocket and have not received financial aid although they pay into California budget through Cal State fees which go directly to Sacramento and not to the CC, Cal State, or UC schools.  The data from non-partisan think thanks negates all your claims of social service drain.  The groups most reliant on Social Services are Cuban and Viatnamese refugees; request some records from your local elected congress person. You did not speak you blabbered about non sense.

DubV
DubV

It's not our fault you elected not to utilized the G.I. Bill-which thanks to Mexicans that formed the G.I. Forum came to light prior to the Movimiento in the 1960s.  Most undocumented students work 3 to 4 jobs.  As far as your entitlement- nobody is entitled to help but if they are humble and ask they receive.  Please show me the receipts of where you have paid for the Student fees of any students- I doubt you paid for my education.

mitch young
mitch young

Maybe when you can learn to write a coherent paragraph. Don't they still teach that in seventh grade?

DubV
DubV

The history of the U.S. exploiting not just Mexico but many other countries in the region with military force. From Guadalupe-Hidalgo to NAFTA the writing is in the wall.  Not all immigrants are Mexican; Asian immigration is actually up- budget cuts have allowed Cal States to accept more international students who pay more then return to their respective countries leaving us in a brain drain after we educate folks. Sad.  Actually prior to prop 13 California was number 1 in Education spending before European Americans decided that they got theirs and began to slash educational funding- more to do with bad tax law than with immigration which has been a part of the United States even before the Declaration of Independence.  Nativist thinking has been the same story just different characters.

Dream over
Dream over

"intoxicated derriere" is correct but considering your audience, you may want to use the simple phrase "culo sucio borracho".  That should get it across to all the ESL dropouts reading this.

Trixie
Trixie

You should know that not only "legal citizens" pay taxes everyone does whether you are legal or not.

DubV
DubV

Just like the officers in Fullerton that killed Kelly Thomas right? Or Nazi soldiers that were just following orders to kill all those Jewish people?  Using the law and order binary is not effective especially when you're stating your opinion as fact especially with the taxpaying.  Have you not heard of the suspended fund of unclaimed tax money? People misuse political ideologies just as you are liberal and conservatism are a map; people that are for immigration everywhere on that map.  California is not the only states with similar legislation just the first.  Many people in the Business community are fiscally conservative but have always support immigration and migration.  Since the 19th century they ignored laws that barred active recruiting in Mexico to create a workforce that could generate profit and be exploited.  

So there are only a few in the state that are legal and taxpaying citizens? Sure.

909Jeff
909Jeff

I think its even more unethical in today's economic climate to spend the taxpayers money on such things... I'm just saying.  Now If the state were flush with cash and operating at a surplus then by all means... until then we shouldn't be spending this money!

909Jeff
909Jeff

OH GOD!!!!

Dude seriously with this? I'm so sick of youre crying. You sound like my 5 year old Niece when her big sister takes a toy away from her "whaaaaa I had it first...whaaaa".  

Hey... History is what it is and like I told someone else in the past.  I wish there were no war and there were no slaves.  But there was, and there is nothing we can do about it. And eventhough I'm white, I feel no white guilt for what white people did before me.  Just as whatever percentage of you is Spanish doesnt feel "Castillian Guilt" for conquering your own people. It must suck that you struggle with so much hate for your own heritage.  

And you keep bringing up prop 13... Do you even know why there is a need for prop 13 or is it just something else for you to cry about the supposed wealthy not being taxed enough? 

  

DubV
DubV

There is no amnesty being proposed here Viva Syphilis.  The term anchor baby has been disproven many times- a child must wait until they are at least 18 to request residency for their parents or relatives- then it take an average of 2 to 5 years to become citizens.  Most residents do not become full citizens because they only plan to live in the United States until children are grown.  This talk of anchor babies is also negated by the fact that Mexicans have also been transnational returning and going since the U.S. annexed Northwestern Mexico to become the U.S. Southwest.  If a U.S. born child has an undocumented person in their home they are automatically disqualified.  It's actually called TANF now not AFDC which was removed in 1996- about 15 years ago. If your not aware of this I wonder how dated your knowledge is.  I am concerned your not making your statements based on fact but more on Ethnic animosity and racist logic.

Viva Cortez Viva Pizarro!!
Viva Cortez Viva Pizarro!!

Since you preach the collective guilt of white devils, its time for you to fess up to the mass murder and child sacrifice practiced by your beloved Aztecs, Toltecs and Mayans. Cutting out peoples' hearts for the corn harvest would still be going on today if it weren't for the blessed conquistadors who brought civilization to the base savages.  Your ancestors, your guilt, right? Right!

DubV
DubV

Hey Guest, you're such a wimp for not using any type of identifier... what's good for the gander right? lol

DubV
DubV

I know its difficult to block out Pat Buchanan and John and Ken from you mind but I write historically accurate information.  Writing a sentence to respond to rational and coherent paragraphs takes work.  Writing a sentence trying to insult me and asking a rhetorical question does not demonstrate your position on this issue nor is it conducive to discussion.  Please try again.

liberals are hypocrites
liberals are hypocrites

nice try moron... asians pay the full price.. and they bring prestige to the university.. unlike the cockroaches like dubv and his amigos

mitch young
mitch young

"Cal States to accept more international students who pay more then return to their respective countries leaving us in a brain drain after we educate folks. "

Foreign students pay full tuition, in effect subsidizing California students.

DubV
DubV

Most people that are ESL learners go on to be pretty excellent scholars; most people that are pushed out of school are born here.  If you want to do some primary research on it conducting interviews at local jails and state prisons will demonstrate why California is 48 in spending per student and 1 in Prison industrial spending.  Thanks for the interpretation; we couldn't have done it without you.

Chris
Chris

Consumable taxes everyone pays.. The real take is state income tax. And that.. they do not pay. And they shouldn't because they shouldn't be here if they have not filed for legal residency.

mitch young
mitch young

Illegals pay far less taxes than the cost they impose. That's a big reason the state is going broke. A carwashero pays nowhere near enough taxes to cover the costs of his kids being in school, so importing him, or allowing him to import himself, is a net loss.

Black Stocking Fetish
Black Stocking Fetish

DubV,  The Nazi's Didnt just kill Jews,   Did you Know they Killed Redheaded folks too and If they let them Live,  they wouldn't allow them to have babies?..  The term ''3 time Loser''   comes from the saying Nazi's had for Redheads.. Also If the Jews Hated their own, The Nazi's Spared them..    But of Course the zionest american Government wont tell you that. Because Redheads are White and Jews Joining Nazi's is an american denial.. Most Non White World Leaders Praised Hitler..   But the zionest Hide that..It's a way to get democrat votes.

Guest
Guest

You are so full of shit, it is rediculous. You have no idea how property tax works or Prop 13. But, you'll never have to worry about that, because only people that own property pay that kind of tax.

DubV
DubV

Then there should be hope in your family because your niece must very very intelligent-congratulations.  I'm just enlightening you just in case you forgot or never bother to remember or learn but if you did- KUDOS!!!  There is no Castillian guilt they were kicked out by Miguel Hidalgo and company and the X replaced the J in Mexico again.  Prop 13 is not about the wealthy; if you understood how prop 13 was shaped then you would understand why we are in such a budget mess in California.  It allows for any entity that purchased land prior to prop 13's passage to never have to readjust mortgage or pay additional taxes on newly acquire land- this is problematic.  

DubV
DubV

Actually Mexicans were not just Aztec they were a very heterogenous group; Tarahumaras, Mayan, Huichol, Chichimec, Olmec were just some of the ethnic groups represented in Anahuac prior to Spanish invasion.  There has never been anthropological, cultural, or scientific demonstrating child sacrifice nor mass murder.  There was ritual sacrifice that Imperial Aztec governments conducted on soldiers captured in battle for the Flower War.  Mayan and Toltec leaders would pierce their genitals to display that their blood was the life of their people and would offer it to their dieties.  The so called blessed conquistadors tortured many people- beatings with chains, burnt body parts, physical and emotional abuses were rampant- the sword and the bible were both used as tools of conquest not of love.  I am actually not guilty at all.  If you're a Euro-American you have much more to be guilty for; Huguenots in France? Bloody Mary? Salem Witch Trials? Native American Genocide? Nazi Germany? Soviet Stalin? Spanish Reconquista? Cecil Rhodes and the Afrikaners? The Opium War? Romans? Euro-American histories have alot more documented history of murder, rape, and violence.  

DubV
DubV

Most international students come on VISAs and return to their country of origin continuing the brain drain in the United States and especially California.  It would be economically sound to allow students who have degrees to work legally instead of outsourcing our Nursing and STEM field needs.  What Asian prestige are you declaring? People whose VISAs expire also elect to stay in the United States; it's alot more common than you would think.  Once people receive citizenship the practice of requesting relatives increases-so it's not about paying full price or whatever non sense you can't cite.  Cockroaches would survive a nuclear winter but viruses your European ancestors brought like Gonorrhea and Syphilis can fortunately be treated with penicillin.  

DubV
DubV

They don't subsidize our services, it gives the State more money.  From undergrad to grad student services have decreased- increase of international students is a stop gap to the budget slashing.  If you would study the California master plan you would understand how student fees are collected and distributed.  UCs however are directly collect by the Regents and re invested in their students.  Foreign students and Out of state students pay 4 or more times the amount California residents do; however, most Out of state students come solely for grad school which creates a significantly smaller burden to pay due to 2-3 years MA programs. 

DubV
DubV

The taxes that undocumented people generate are not collectable and go into suspend fund.  So really it just money the government uses without having to pay anybody for that additional income.  

DubV
DubV

He didn't catch anything.  Lol, you must have been a great Cheerleader in high school and maybe even in college. Go TEAM! Hahaha

DubV
DubV

They are not supporting facts.  In essay writing you must have concrete detail to match your commentary-which you don't quote.  You have said nothing that could be verifiable through any source.  You can get anything I've quoted and find it in a journal, article, book, report, and even on wikipedia.  Stop including common splices in your work- its sloppy.

909Jeff
909Jeff

hahahah!  good catch!

mitch young
mitch young

DubV -- thesis sentence, the supporting facts. Thesis sentence, they supporting facts.

DubV
DubV

Which costs are directly correlated to undocumented people? Capitalism demands the cheapest wages for the highest profit right? That's why NAFTA was signed. That's why the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organizations regulate international commerce-so they profit.  California has been in a budget crisis since proposition 13 passed.  Which allows schools and corporations to purchase land without paying additional taxes.  Service sector corporations pay taxes based on profit but many so called fiscal conservatives will not sign the Jobs Acts and did not want to increase taxes on large corporations or wealthy people.  That is what has created the budget shortfall; add in the Governator's horrible management of the Car Tax and the bones start to fall out of the closet.

DubV
DubV

They also killed disabled, gay, lesbian, and mentally disable people as well but the point was to demonstrate that doing what you're told is not always the right thing. Thanks for the history lesson though.

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