Christopher Raymond Olague, Calvary Chapel Pastor, Accused of Molesting Girl, Paying Her Hush Money

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A Calvary Chapel church pastor and youth soccer coach has been arrested for allegedly picking up an 8-year-old girl for a play date with one of his five daughters but instead driving her to a Huntington Beach park, molesting her and giving her $40 not to say anything.

She did.

Christopher Raymond Olague, 39, of Westminster, was booked into the Huntington Beach city jail on suspicion of committing a lewd act on a child less than 14 years of age and preventing/dissuading a witness.

The pastor of Refuge Southland Calvary Chapel in Buena Park was released after posting $100,000 bail. His next court date is scheduled for Nov. 28, according to Surf City police.

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Courtesy of HBPD
He goes by "Pastor Chris," say cops.
After the girl told her mother what happened on her "play date," the department was notified around 3 p.m. Wednesday. Officers were told the molestation happened in Olague's vehicle and that he paid the girl the money to try to convince her not to tell her parents. 

About 4:30 that same afternoon, Huntington Beach plain clothes detectives, with the assistance of Garden Grove police officers, found, stopped and arrested Olague. A search warrant was later served at his home, and Orange County Child Protective Services was contacted to ensure the safety of the children inside the house.

According to the Refuge Southland Calvary Chapel website:

Pastor Chris and Diana, both grew up and first met in the city of Buena Park and both are excited to see what God is doing in their hometown. They have been married for the past 15yrs and have five daughters. [Writer's note: I deleted their names.] Prior to starting Southland, Chris and Diana had been on staff at Refuge Calvary Chapel Huntington Beach and serving in ministry together for 10 years.

Because of his church work and youth soccer volunteering, the Huntington Beach Police Department fears there may be other victims. Anyone with information about inappropriate behavior toward children involving Olague is asked to call either Detective Kevin Johnson at 714.960.8834 or Detective Mike Szyperski at 714.536.5988.

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Diana
Diana

It is heart breaking to see children get hurt by sheep in wolves clothing. I attend a Calvary Chapel and I so glad that our pastor is big on the safety of children. It is sad to see that there are people in positions as this committing such acts. They always say innocent until proven guilty but what more evidence can you have. Calvary or not no pastor or anyone should ever hurt a child or anyone. This is not CHRIST LIKE!! They are not real pastors and they are not in it for the right reasons. Justice will prevail if not here it will with God. I hope he works in the life of this man and changes him. I also pray that he protect the children and the victims. Horrible acts against children as these are not godly, they are not representative of Jesus. I hate when people commit these acts, it gives the church and real believers a bad name. 

touch my peepee
touch my peepee

I am 47 years old. My family was deeply involved with Our Mother of Sorrows church in the 70's & 80's. My spirtual guidance was formed by Fathers Trupia, Byrne and Teta. When my brothers and I reported that we felt "creeped out" by what the Fathers were having us do with them, it took many years to convince our parents we were telling the truth. By the time it all shook out, my family was fragmented, scattered across the USA never to speak to another again. Please take the time to read this link;

 http://www.bishop-accountabili...

It's as close to the readers digest version of the events as I can find.  I write to you as a soulless shell of a man, with no beliefs, reading a little blog from a crappy hotel room,eating porkrinds, popping vicodins and drinking Jack Daniel's at 6am.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me, but- listen to the kids.

And no, none of us got any settlement from the church. I slog it out selling a crappy earth killing product to the mindless masses who consume the world daily.

Think what you wish.

jackcordis
jackcordis

I agree, and it isnt about hate or against christians.  This KC Dude is just as much out to lunch as that Perv...so you know KC most of us who are writing on here are Christians. I would put some blame on the so called refuse Church he spun off on in Huntington Beach...its very clear that pastor who had him under his wings was as blind to this perv as he no doubt is to everything else..again another pastor who thunks lol gee everything gonna work out. Gods in control His senior pastor he came from should have could have would have on an on have known this perv...minimum this pastor being worth his "SALT" seems would have been close enough on a daily basis some where along the line seen red flags...either through his confession of truths, daily growth of pastors under him. I am amazed at how so many senior clergy seem to "gee golly i didn't know a thing , its all a surprise to me" attitude. Come clean here Huntington beach pastor who ever you are. You owe a solemn obligation to the innocence of this little girl who will have no doubt a life filled with doubt an confusion if not professional help due to your shrugging your shoulders and saying O well i cant be concerned , i pray for everyone!. an this is the problem throughout America too many senior pastors /clergy I am sure know what is goingon. I am sorry no not everything is gonna turn out alright...

Joe
Joe

Punish the man for his crime, don't punish Christianity.  Christianity, didnt commit this crime, a man did......Remember this man is accused, and has a day in Court.  If found guilty he goes to prison and pays for his crime.  Ignorant people always want to persecute a faith, Christianity is about good..................... Man is about evil.    

Blueskiesagain
Blueskiesagain

Given the history of most pedophiles, he probably has a stash of kiddie porn on his church computer. Hopefully the cops have already seized it for evidence. Someone who so blatantly molests a third grader and gives her money probably has worked up to that through previous acts, even stuff like tickling games with his own daughters, 'accidentally' touching them, etc. Hopefully his soccer team will report any attempts. For the people in his church who won't believe it even if proven true, sorry to say, many pedophiles live a double life. Many men go into the ministry to get their own ego needs and insecurities fed. You better believe his wife will have seen red flags and has been praying on them for years. This is written by a long time Christian who has seen too much. If true, he is not fit to lead. He needs to go get a regular job and and get himself together. Terrible tragedy for the girl, her family, his wife and daughters. He just trashed all their lives. May God have mercy on the victims, on him, he deserves what he gets.

Jim Beam
Jim Beam

Sadly in this case and cases like this only the innocence of the eight year old is lost. 

Kcs4given
Kcs4given

I encourage everybody here to go back & re-read every post.  Keep a tally, left column & right column.Count how many comments from so-called "CC apologists" will need to be retracted if the accused is found GUILTY of this crime.  Very, very few - if any!In contrast, count how many comments from people spewing hatred (toward Christians, churches, the bible & even God) will need to be retracted if the accused is never charged or is found to be INNOCENT.  Many, many, many - what does that tell us?Will the haters all come back & revisit this blog if that indeed occurs.  Because if the Christians do, they will have nothing to be ashamed of - for the most part, everything they have said is true.We will see this contrast only if we are interested in truth.  But in our world, people often tend to believe what they WANT to believe REGARDLESS of the evidence.Hate the messenger, but remember the message - "Whatever I choose to believe NEVER changes what is true."Respectfully,Have a great week everyone!

Imgemkr
Imgemkr

To those of you who claim I am defending a Calvary Chapel pastor or a denomination you are wrong. I am defending the right in this country that we have to be innocent until proven guilty.

 I am a Christian and I follow Jesus not a man or a denomination, God never condones sin for anyone.

However He is the ONLY one aside from the 8 year old child and the man himself that knows at this point whether he is guilty or not.

That being said, when we put aside due process and convict somebody before we have all the evidence then we might as well get rid of judges and juries and turn ourselves over to the media and the public for our trials.

In Egypt right now the military is trying and convicting innocent people all day long I have friends who live there I’m pretty sure they see our system and wish they had it right about now.

Some of you will read this and agree and others won’t.

Those who don’t… well maybe you should consider living in a country that better suits your lust for blood over truth.

If this man IS guilty then he will be punished to the full extent of the law, but until he is PROVEN guilty by a jury of his peers he is innocent in this country.

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

Read Hosea 13:16 --

Maybe Olague thought the 8 yr. old girl was Samarian?

20ftJesus
20ftJesus

And here we are some 52 comments later and not one Christian has offered any support for the 8 yr. old girl.  That's pretty typical of Christians, isn't it?

At least one of you was honest and said that the 8 yr. old, who can't possibly understand our legal system, should wait for support until after a guilty verdict.  Really?  You'd offer no support to the child in question for ~12-18 months?  Nice.  That's the christian spirit isn't it.  Protect the church at all costs even if it involves an 8 yr. old girl. 

Ebay
Ebay

two key words you dodo heads:  1) accused, 2) alleged.  learn them before you pass judgement. if this is in  fact a true story, if and WHEN he is found guilty, then he should be punished under max penalty of the law, stripped of his pastoral duties, etc.   it's so funny how you people expect those Christians to be perfect and non-human.  what planet are you from?! besides, one pastor does not represent most of those Christians/Churches just as some bad cops do not represent most good cops - same goes for islamic extremists vs. peaceful muslims... please, do us all a favor and put your emotions in check until  we hear all the FACTS and the guilty verdict.   good grief...what the eff is the matter with you people?!

Grannie Annie
Grannie Annie

I am physically sickened by the CC apologists here who seem to have more concern towards their 'pastor's' reputation than for  the horror of the allegations regarding the sexual abuse of an 8 year old girl.  Sadly I have seen this before in the John Flores case - many rising up to defend him because he was their good brother in Christ, a trusted pastor, bible college teacher ad nauseaum - that is until a court found him guilty as hell.  Even then there were many who played the blame the victim and her family card.  Disgusting. Jamie and others: how will you feel/react if the man is found guilty of this crime?   Possibly betrayed and you may find some chinks in your armor of faith.

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

Unfortunately, the arrest of Chris Olague is not an isolated incident with Calvary Chapel, the Movement or Non-Denom Denom that Chuck Smith started and is "Pastor" of. Chuck is listed as "President" of CCOF, the licensing arm of Calvary Chapel where an Agreement/Application/Contract is made with CC Pastors. Each CC Pastor must agree to a set of Calvary Chapel "Distinctives" among other things like stepping down if they violate certain provisions. I would hope that a Calvary Chapel "Distinctive" would be "Don't molest children and don't commit felony Child Abuse" and that would trigger the Contractual Obligation/Agreement for a guy like Pastor Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel Visalia (child abuse, pending molestation allegation) to forfeit the Position of Calvary Chapel Pastor. I would hope that Chris Olague's molestation arrest triggers the same. There is much sin in the Calvary Chapel Camp and much abuse that goes on and has gone on. Much is documented here: http://www.calvarychapelabuse..... If you or someone you know has suffered physical or sexual abuse by a Calvary Chapel Pastor or employ, contact me through the website listed previously and I will put you in touch with an Abuse Advocate who can help you get accountability and justice in your situation.

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

Unfortunately, this sort of issue is becoming very common in Calvary Chapel, and in part, IMO, because of a Culture of Little to No Accountability among the Calvary Chapel Leadership and it starts with Chuck Smith. This poor little girl. Nothing will stop all abuses, but CC does little if anything to deal with these things publicly and rebuke its Pastors who go off the rails or to put System-wide Best Practices in place to help protect children. Pastors are "trusted" at a much higher level in our Society...and people need to be warned that in Calvary Chapel, your kids might not be as safe as you think, because they send very bad messages by allowing accused child molesters and confirmed child abusers to remain fully endorsed by Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel. That attracts bad behavior. I imagine Chuck and Calvary Chapel will allow Chris Olague to remain a Calvary Chapel Pastor, sadly. I call on Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel to Dis-Affiliate Chris Olague now. Chuck Smith needs to warn the Calvary Chapel Public about Olague and he needs to remove his Affiliation so people aren't unknowingly thinking he's a person that can be Trusted.

jackcordis
jackcordis

I read the reply from above, I can only say do not give up. keep moving forwarddo not let what one man did in clergy make you quite...I will have more to say as evidence and some discovery has recently hit the news regarding Senior pastors what they knew and felony charges. I am sorry KC Dudie after reading above post cant give it a week

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Jack!  Jack!  You're repeating yourself.  You said all this already.  Did you cut & paste?Refuse?  You've been trampling in the dung pile so long, it's affected your mind.  You're focused too much on trying to clean your shoes right now & you're misspelling.Seriously though, it's always clear when somebody has hate in their heart.  I don't know who did what to you, but your bitterness is destroying YOU more than it's destroying the object of your hate.Obviously people have fault, but it's not your job or mine to try to bring down everybody we disagree with.

jackcordis
jackcordis

an your point again Joe is? if you have even read any of these comments...most of these comments are coming from good everyday Christians. I wrote a huge comment about that Huntington beach refuse pastor who had this perv under his wings for how long. You make general comments about nothing Joe, how about what everyone is upset about this 8 year old girl who the perv thought was a Samaritan . What does his senior pastor at the HB Refuse  know and when did he know is what we should be talking about. remember after all once again he worked there for a while duh...an his silence is deafening. My point above too many clergy lack the guts to step up and take responsibility where they should, its hard to believe his former boss had no clue about this guys perverted character, but sure he said " go with Gods blessing, everything will work out. No it doesn't, and this girl will need a lot of assistance

jackcordis
jackcordis

I agree, and it isnt about hate or against christians.  This KC Dude is just as much out to lunch as that Perv...so you know KC most of us who are writing on here are Christians. I would put some blame on the so called refuse Church he spun off on in Huntington Beach...its very clear that pastor who had him under his wings was as blind to this perv as he no doubt is to everything else..again another pastor who thunks lol gee everything gonna work out. Gods in control His senior pastor he came from should have could have would have on an on have known this perv...minimum this pastor being worth his "SALT" seems would have been close enough on a daily basis some where along the line seen red flags...either through his confession of truths, daily growth of pastors under him. I am amazed at how so many senior clergy seem to "gee golly i didn't know a thing , its all a surprise to me" attitude. Come clean here Huntington beach pastor who ever you are. You owe a solemn obligation to the innocence of this little girl who will have no doubt a life filled with doubt an confusion if not professional help due to your shrugging your shoulders and saying O well i cant be concerned , i pray for everyone!. an this is the problem throughout America too many senior pastors /clergy I am sure know what is goingon. I am sorry no not everything is gonna turn out alright...

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Of all the angry people here that love a good ugly story about a Christian or church falling, I was hoping that one would've accepted my challenge & gone back to do the research on this.Would the results be too telling?If the accused is convicted, I can come back here & say the same thing I've been saying.  "Many of you unfairly pre-judged a man before you knew all the facts of the case & now that he is convicted, there needs to be consequences".If he is NOT charged or acquitted, many of you will NOT come back OR you'll come back making excuses like, "The prosecution botched the case", etc...  Otherwise you'll have to admit you were part of a mob mentality that left your reason aside.Right?Have a good Wednesday everybody.  ;-)

Jackcordis
Jackcordis

yea sure sure dude...you are just trying to defend the Perv is all..if you are so interested in Christianity..go to the pier dude an hand out tracks lol if you are so concerned why the hell are you preaching fairness here...GO AWAY lol  this is about posting what this Perv got caught doing..we all know about America freedom..duh that's what we are here doing. Now  IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DEFEND THIS PERV KEEP POSTING its becoming clearer and clearer who are just people commenting and those who are trying to rally to this pervs side. YOUR GOING TO GET A LOT OF CHANCES TO DO ALL YOU WANT to visit him in the STATE PENITENTIARIES where you can bring him cigarette money...because they don't like child molesters out in the jail population...i hope everyone knows this..or do i need to spell it out. Child molesters have to be confined 24/7 from gen jail population jail house prisoners will do their own form of punishment on guys like this especially if he was a so called pastor...

Joe
Joe

Interesting how, non-beleivers like to read the bible...........I dont beleive in God or make believe Jesus, but I certainly like to read his teachings?????? You amke a lot of sence

Jackcordis
Jackcordis

Its clear after reading a lot of these posts are many who know this Christopher pastor dude. How one post can relate this to that giants fan (BTW the wrong guy was a horrific criminal rap sheet a mile long parolee anyway) to hey lets give this guys another chance. no no no not all of us are stupid enough There's no doubt this guys probably got alot of dirty lil secrets. Those of you coming on this site who know him, go get a life lol no wonder you probably followed this guy from where eva he came from lol an not posting stupid comments like hes innocent until proven guilty. What about the traumatized little girl (yet to be determined if there are other little kids he played with their private areas) . Don't you just hate it when someone makes a comment and the next person has absolutely nothing to say other than..Hey you misspelled your words. So what, he misspelled words an didn't use spell checkkkker. so many defenders of this so called pastor goon post comments an most of us can see right through them. Its clear this Chris guy hurt and let down a lot of people, coming on this site trying to defend him is stupid. Go find another church, PS i purposely misspelled checkkkkker see i did it again lol now comment on me

Imgemkr
Imgemkr

No chinks in my armor of faith Annie, I don't follow a man, I follow Jesus... Until this man is found guilty I won't pass judgement on him... will you?

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Wow!  You're in deep.This unrelated issue seems to be controlling your life.  I sincerely have compassion for you & all that you're experiencing, but you've gone on a rant that has nothing to do w/ the point - don't pass judgement prematurely on people.The man initially accused of beating the Giants fan at Dodger Stadium was not even there that night.Quite often people who are in a war like you & obsessed w/ it, are not being honest w/ themselves about everything pertaining to the matter.

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

"employ" includes anyone representing Calvary Chapel in a volunteer position including Sunday School Worker, Camp Counselor, Youth Group assistant, etc.

Joe
Joe

Interesting how you feel a need to grand-stand.........and attack a man that has not been convicted?  Kinda sounds like someone elses story..........Jesus maybe????  

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

 Alex - if the Pastor in this case has been falsely accused, what does your axe-to-grind story about Chuck Smith & Calvary have to do w/ anything?  You've shared your side of that different story here (albeit this is NOT the place for it), but there's another side of that story, isn't there?  You're likely not telling us everything & since the other parties aren't here to defend themselves, it's gossip, it's harmful & it's wrong.  Respectfully,

jackcordis
jackcordis

i have two articles from the OC register, when I have time will post on the topic of pastoral supervisory accountability relating to US and California Penal Law

Ronnie
Ronnie

So you won't make assumptions about the alleged crime that took place, but you will go ahead and assume that somebody must have a traumatic history because they have a differing opinion or outlook than yourself. Interesting....but that does sound a bit like the "pre-judging" you're railing about.  Perhaps one day you'll be in a forum like this and get into a conversation with the grown-up version of the little girl from this story. When her opinion differs from yours you can say "I don't know who did what to you....", and she'll say, "I was molested by my fucking pastor, asshole."

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

 Apparently Jack, YOU are the one who has failed to read all the posts.  Because if you did, you wouldn't continue to trample in the dung pile next to the sign that says, " Beware of pre-judging people when you have no idea about the facts involved".What time is lunch?

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Approximately 80% of Americans claim to be Christians, but only about 10% can adequately tell you what a Christian is.Does walking into your garage make you a car?  Entering McDonald's & now your a Big Mac?  Going to church doesn't make you Christian.  Nor does believing that there is a God.  James tells us the demons believe & they tremble.Only God determines who are Christian - & you can only be His child if you come to Him, repent of your sin & begin to follow Him.Are you sure you are a born-again Christian?  Because if you are, His love will be evident in your life.And as far as being out to lunch?  Yeah, I guess so.  Are you buying?

Joe
Joe

Right on,  It is Christ that we follow, only sheep trust in man, Shepards trust in God! 

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

A Calvary Chapel Pastor should not be spending time ALONE with an 8-year-old girl who isn't his daughter. That should be a Chuck Smith "Distinctive".

Grannie Annie
Grannie Annie

Sigh, CC has always been about protecting the anointed and powerful rather than the weak and vulnerable.   Sorry, Mr. Imagemaker & other CC apologists.  Too many bodies thrown under the bus over 30 + years for me to ignore.   It astounds me that you could even imagine an 8 yr old fabricating this before imaging your bro did it. 

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

One indisputable fact: Chris Olague, a Calvary Chapel Pastor, was alone with an 8-year-old girl who isn't his daughter for some length of time. That is not good. Very telling from the outset. Not normal or responsible behavior for a normal non-pedophile adult male.

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

It has very much to do with the point. Church Systems that have a Culture of Little to no Accountability for their Positions of Trust they create in our Society in the form of Pastor and specifically in this case, Calvary Chapel Pastor, lead to attracting Pedophiles and men of poor character who see the gaps and the zero accountability and are attracted to it. It gives them carte blanche to exploit the Trust and get to children etc.

Joe
Joe

KC your right-on with your assessment of Alex and his brother...anything to attack Calvary, because he was spanked as a kid.  He wants so badly for people to feel his pain.  He got spanked like many of us, he was spanked by his dad.  Simply spanked is all.  According to them they were, abused children???  ....... there are so many men in ths life that have horrible things done to them.  Men learn to ask the Lord for strength and move on.....these males which I could not refer to them as men, because of thier actions ..go on and on......they don't let it go, because no one wants to hear their story of simply being spanked! Move on boys.....move on so that people can look at you as Men.....   

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

Kc Dude, to err on the side of Grace and Love to protect children at all costs, you take the allegations seriously, you make sure the accused steps down from his Position of Trust as a Calvary Chapel Pastor first and you ask questions second. Dino Cardelli has proven that Calvary Chapel Pastors are capable of anything. Iglesias molested FOUR boys he met through his Position working with children through Calvary Chapel, and allegedly (according to the pending Law Suit) Raul Ries, Davis and other from Calvary Chapel were aware Iglesias was pedophile and/or had a problem with little boys...yet they kept allowing him to be with children. Chuck Smith is currently silent and not taking action with Calvary Chapel Visalia Pastor Bob Grenier who is accused by his blood son Paul Grenier of molestation. This stuff happens and the attitude of Calvary Chapel and CC apologists like yourself is to point the finger back at the victims of abuse and the people blaring the horn of warning who are trying to get Chuck Smith and the Calvary Chapel System to take both Scriptural Responsibility and Societal Responsibility...rather than supporting efforts for Reform to do the absolute BEST we can to try and protect children from Predators who can sometimes take the form of Calvary Chapel Pastor or Sunday School Worker etc. You do a disservice to the victims of abuse by focusing on those who are calling for much needed Reforms and Responsibility...and those Reforms and Responsibility start at the top: Chuck Smith, the "Pastor" of these guys and the Founder of the Denom/System.

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Read all the previous posts & come back.Have a great week my friend!

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Jesus said, "for a tree is known by its fruit".  When faceless people talk hate on boards like this & in doing so, act much differently than they would, say, at a company picnic, they reveal fruit that's of their lives.Your beef has been, is & will continue to be with Jesus, NOT me.  So you should really stop hiding behind a little girl who may be a victim of a serious crime in order to take pokes at Him!Oh, but you say, "I'm not after Him, it's those lunatics who claim to be His children."  But Jesus also said, "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you."

jackcordis
jackcordis

just like all the Catholic priests who are in prison and their Bishops an cardinals took the same approach as you do  ? livforhimldaily. Where have you been, go anywhere google any clergy anywhere anyone can see for themselves as was wrote clearly above that senior pastors Bishops and Senior Clergy have responsibilities. You are clearly in the stone age an this attitude was exactly why this perverts survived in churches for so long, read all the exerts above. clearly the world sees pastors ministers clergy priests as men preying on the young, you clearly are deluded into no knowing what has transpired across American cities in regard to those in authority and should have know or did know and taken action themselves within the clergy. No this isn't a serious crime. Serious crimes are bank robbers...this crime is way worse these perverts rip away are young children's souls

LiveforHimdaily
LiveforHimdaily

I really don't know how any of this has to do with the church, or it's pastor...This person has been accused of a very serious crime, not the church,  and it will play out in the months to come.  I will be praying for the little girl,  and anyone else this has touched, which it sounds like alot of people. We are not the ones to judge.

jackcordis
jackcordis

so everyone KC Dude sends me a response from points I wrote earlier when there is nothing KC Dudie lol to say he attacks my spelling, KC Dudie I am glad I hit a nerve, cus and yah i misspelled it on purpose an if I wish to abbreviate or short a word out KC Dudie isn't it my free choice. You are nooooo doubt as all can see a Perv sympathizer which surprise surprise about your connection with no doubt refuse organization..  However since you wrote me so many times lol  lets look and stick to the points. Since you brought it up again, I will response after doing research (thank you KC guy that pastor of Huntington beach Refuse is One Bill Welsh and didn't know who it was until KC attached me, he attached my spelling lol and lets put it this way he didnt use any swear words lol But the anger anger. lol Point is very serious here Bill Welsh Senior Pastor/ clergy prior boss of this perv Christopher Olaque. Writing analytically like others raising sincere questions  like should have could have would have known some signs along the way regarding this soon to be Felon Its all to sad in America whether it be Catholic priests, or  Bishops or Cardinals who turned a blind eye to ministers, clergy pastors under them and the consequences are horrific harm and damage to our children. It seems KC Dudie lol continues to be and remains to be off point for priorities our society has placed for us all. Freedom requires responsibilities, and it seems all to often these key important points such as the right to grow up unharmed by adults, to trust our spiritual leaders to allow our young the solemn trust from our spiritual leaders our treasure our little children. It is very clear that the focus needs to stay on those who no doubt turned a blind eye to warnings and signs along the way this pervert exhibited. From reading all the txt above I agree with many of them writing that this guy didnt just one day decide to get a little 8 year old girl all alone and then give her $40.00. I am sure as others have wrote his computer and mind is filled with porn trash and this wasnt his first isolated incident. This guy knew enough to bribe a witness which shows clearly knowledge of guilt and that he thought through his actions. So KC Dudie he grew into this over a long time it takes planning and didnt happen over night. Your angry response :) attacking me allowing did one thing and one thing only (thank you allowing me to get the facts out, research for everyone now to publicly know who his superior was, Bill Welsh. Just like all the other Bishops Cardinals and senior pastors who had accountability as a result of  media like this and should have known or had knowledge on their subordinates. ALL OTHERS HAVE ALL BEEN NAMED in the media and asked the serious questions of what did they know and when did they know it about those perverts under them. Bill Welsh doesn't get a pass does he? or does he? Questions raised here are solid questions for public discussion which allows a certain public awareness and consciousness. remember KC Dudie pastors getting up in front of the public and using God Jesus Christ and holy names do not and can not get free passes when those under them cripple and wound  others, an if we have to read your comments about lets see, give it time lol no no no he got caught. So before you go off on me not liking what I wrote which was ask who his boss was, nothing different than the same questions the Los Angeles Times or Orange County Register and other National media  asked  w h o   was Christopher Olaque's S e  n  i o r   p a s t o r ( and thanks to you writing me you kind letter lol we all now know who that is stick to the facts, look at what other investigative questions have been asked from presious media responses and criminal actions from of other perverts who are now serving 15 years in California State Prison Correction facilities. These are the points and continue to be the points and will remain and continue to raise solid questions. !  

jackcordis
jackcordis

well ronnnnnnnnnieeee baby we are all gonna find out real soon now about this PervPastor that originated from refuse Huntington beach tutelage, in 4 weeks he is in front of a Orange County California Superior Count Judge an lets see if he plea agree his charges out to 10 years instead of the 15 minimum sentencing guidelines mandated by the voter's of California for so called pastors who violate the sanctity of trust to our little children. i didn't read a thing you wrote RONNNNNIE about the little girl, how she is doing, or any money you are donating to her for help. lets forget about the little girl just as this refuse Huntington beach senior pastor seems to keep hiding behind his " Cloth" when it comes to the trail of wreaked lives from his own church members "so called sinner base" lets not make anyone accountable. As long as pastors like this HB guy are still around letting lose guys out there like this soon to be Felon Olaque. wreaked lives are being left behind.Its more than lets keep everyone in prayer pastors, good works does require accountability an real pro-action from time to time. 

Alex Grenier
Alex Grenier

Joe, look me up on my blog. I'd be happy to meet with you in person and you can try to administer that recommendation you gave. I don't think it'd turn out too well for you...and I don't think you have the stones to meet. Just sayin'.

Joe
Joe

 A cry-baby should be given a spanking when he crys and crys for no reason!

Joe
Joe

Grannie, I did not read of KC saying the 8 year old was fabricating her story?  Your putting words in other peoples mouths, and your reading what you want to read.  KC is defending the churches teachings and his God. He's not saying CHurchs are above anything? KC is saying don't condemn until the case has been heard by a court.    

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

So then it's okay for you to pre-judge people?  Because that is the point here, NOT whether or not churches are perfect - they are NOT.

vectahx
vectahx

I have to say I agree with Alex. It's just common sense for the church to remove this man and protect the victim first and then wait for things to be cleared up. This doesn't mean the church has convicted this pastor before his day in church..it simply means the church has taken the issue of safety first. Alex I don't know you or KC or Jack but I have to say of the three that Alex seems to be the only one talking common sense and is respectful and articulate in making his point without using personal attack type statements i.e. KC: "..your bitterness& unforgiveness" etc etc and Jackcordis: "This KC Dude is just as much out to lunch as that Perv".. these personal attacks aren't necessary or christian. These statements and punitive points such as pointing out spelling errors only bring to light the weakness of your argument. Alex you have answered what your story and the 8 yr old story have to do with each other more then once and KC still continues to ask " what does your story have to do with this story". He is obviously refusing to hear the answer. Christianity is not to blame for the failure of people to do the responsible thing but for leaders not to be open and transparent and follow bible consul in serious matters brings reproach upon there organization. The bible is full of examples for us to follow. At the very least this suspect in question acted in extremely poor judgement that most men who are not pastors would not have done. I for one, if I had five daughters, would not go alone to pick up someone elses child or take them home alone. I would take along one of my daughters so as not to give cause for accusation. This is just responsible appropriate behavior and this pastor certainly failed on that and the church should have addressed and counsuled such behavior. Maybe such counsul would have prevented such an incident and protected the child , the pastor and the entire CC organization.

 

 

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

Gossip is NOT always false, but it is always self-serving, malicious & harmful.There are people in your life that know about your skeletons, but have they devoted entire websites (I've seen your website devoted to your Father, Chuck & Calvary Chapels) & spent most of their life trying to destroy you all over the web?How did the police respond when you went to them about the allegations about your Father?  Usually when only one side f the story is shared, things get left out.I know bad things happen - even in the best of churches (albeit less frequently) because we live in a fallen world.  Someone in my family was abused too - the culprit was not a family man, nor was he religious.  One of my best friend's Father is a convicted pedofile.But the point on this blog continues to be that you & others have made yourselves in Gods (our human nature by the way) & convicted this man even though none us of know all the details of the case.I don't lack compassion for you - something obviously went wrong.  But this something has you floating, but anchored in the middle of a bay & in spite of all of your fruitless efforts, you're unable to make it to shore.  The Lord wants you to be free of this.God bless you my friend!

Kc Dude
Kc Dude

You forget that love "does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth".  So you error in assuming that my love & grace turns a blind eye.  I stated in a post that IF he's guilty (& we don't know yet if he is), there "needs to be consequences".The problem here is that you have it out for Christians - you've gossiped about many in your posts.  Although your little tongue lights big forest fires & hurts people, guess who is being hurt the most by your bitterness & unforgiveness?  YOU!

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