Toilet Seat or Father Got 11-Year-Old Girl Pregnant?

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Rubicel Aguilar Perez
Rubicel Aguilar Perez is outraged by the conduct of veteran Orange County sex crimes prosecutor Karen Schatzle.

During his 2010 trial, Perez took the witness stand and claimed that he didn't attempt to rape his sister-in-law in 2007 because another person took care of him sexually.

"I have my wife," said Perez.

The prosecutor fired back: "And your daughter."

Defense counsel objected and Superior Court Judge James Edward Rogan ruled the statement legally out of line because it was "argumentative."

Now, Perez wants his conviction overturned based on Schatzle's alleged prosecutorial misconduct.

Accusing a father of having sex with his daughter normally would fit into the outrageous category.

But not in the case of Perez, who shared a one bedroom Santa Ana rental house with his wife, three children and eight other people.

In 2008, Perez's 11-year-old daughter got pregnant, which prompted everyone--including a weepy Perez--to wonder aloud how on earth this could happen.

Perez even speculated that sperm resting on a toilet seat must have somehow entered his daughter's vagina because he was positive the girl had not had sex with anyone.

But DNA testings proved that Perez was 200,000 times more likely the father of his daughter's baby than any other male on the planet.

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Toilet seat sperm defense fails again...
In her closing argument, Schatzle suggested that only "a disgusting" father would have sex with his own daughter, which was another statement Perez found highly objectionable.

But this month a California Court of Appeal based in Santa Ana sided with the prosecutor, rejected the appeal and left intact the punishment: a term of 21 years to life in prison.

--R. Scott Moxley / OC Weekly


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Sinamucha
Sinamucha

So how did all these people in this one bedroom house including the little girls mother not know he was raping her?

Spooky
Spooky

I would do the same of ypu cant get no pussy ypu gotta get it some how quirt that permS

Dagttt2345k
Dagttt2345k

Of course he's mexican. Mexican men have always made disgusting remarks and faces towards me since I was 8. In fact ... it happened to me about ten minutes ago. A landscaping truck loaded with Mexicanos and all the dirty men start whistling an shit. I am turning 17 . All they want is a girl on their cock..... pedophiles.

tricia
tricia

Well shiver me timbers! I thought only white people had sex with their daughters. All of the cases I've ever seen have been white men locking up their daughters and F'ing them while the mothers claimed they didn't know what was going on... and now...a hispanic used a cum laden toliet seat on his daughter. What the hell?

red_zone
red_zone

Stupid-ass, grease-ball, sixty in a car, 100 in a house, river jumping, fart-making, 1+1=5 thinking, sex freak.

Peter Voth
Peter Voth

Please people, wear a condom when you have sex with your 11 year-old daughters!

Joel Z Williams
Joel Z Williams

How did his attorney allow him to make such an improbable argument? (a toilet seat? really?)  This pedophile might now be able to get a mistrial for having such an incompetent defense.

Grumpy4950
Grumpy4950

It's okay not everyone is as lucky ....

Grumpy4950
Grumpy4950

Wow how sad you must of been one of those kids that was practically abandoned by their parents and was baby sitter by a nanny because by the sound if it it looks like you have a lot of scarrring -mental starring just incase you didn't know -due to that your very disturbed by the thought of any other race than your can have life any try to become someone in life with their parents supporting them ever step of the way ....... -liberals are hypocrites

Grumy4950
Grumy4950

It's people like you that make other races be bias toward a specific ethnicity......and I'm pretty sure you think your race is better than everyone elses but just incase you haven't noticed white people (you)would believe hard working people are taking everything up and not leaving any jobs for example to "Americans" as you call yourself just because you see them as a treat or else you wouldn't get bothered by it ...and instead of making stupid racist remarks why dont you find something usefully to do like get an education or a job in other word get a life because I'm sure you don't have one ...sti

Livefree247
Livefree247

I am totally disgusted with this kind of behavior. having sex not only with a child, but the poor girls father. I see years of therapy for this innocent molested child!!

punkin003
punkin003

Instead of jail, I say someone needs to draw and quarter him, splice his balls open, put a large fish hook in them and drag his sorry ass around until he bleeds to death...just sayin'!

Guest
Guest

there is evil like this in every race, unfortunately. Look at that Austrian guy Fritzl (white) who kept his daughter as a sex slave in an underground cell for over 20 years.

Scretch
Scretch

i hope he has a good job in prison so he can pay child support. 

Guest
Guest

21 yrs for not only attempting to rape the sister in law ...but for actually RAPING and IMPREGNATING your 11 yr old...that's not enough time at all..and where were all these people that slept in the same damn room..watching?

childadvocate
childadvocate

Spare me... just because the "white people" in the Dark Ages (and obviously in some hideously sad "white" homes today) is NO excuse for the abuse of children of any culture or race! And why the heck are 13 people living in a 1 bedroom apt. anyway... And SPARE me, once again, the poverty card! What sort of human being brings 3 children into this world when they can't even afford to take care of themselves! It's outrageously selfish and thoughtless. Our children deserve to be treated like human beings, not trophy's for ignorant parents who must assume others will pay for their choices in life! And, no, I'm not a Tea Party person nor am I Republican. I just happen to think it's wrong. Now, there's a novel idea for this country... THINKING... the lost art! There are NO excuses to abuse children by anyone... PERIOD. Stop the heck making everything a race issue! 

mitch young
mitch young

Why are these people here? So two families can live in a single family dwelling, stressing the infrastructure and crowding the schools? I don't care how many lawns this guy has mowed, he or his spawn down to the seventh generation will never pay enough taxes for his and childrens costs he imposes on us.

Jack Grimshaw
Jack Grimshaw

"DNA testings proved that Perez was 200,000 times more likely the father of his daughter's baby than any other male on the planet." And about 200 MILLION times more likely than any toilet seat ...

bohica2008
bohica2008

So this means there is only 12 people in the one-bedroom rental now?

Nicki
Nicki

What a sick fuck....period!

cook
cook

There should be a choice.  21 years to life or dropping from the tenth story onto the concrete below.

Di
Di

Praying for that little girl. She is victim. Regardless of race, nationality... terrible things happen and it is terrible what has happend to her. Her father is disgusting. Justice needs to be made. I am Mexican and it is not a race thing. It happens in all races, etc. There are good Mexicans, educated, and out to do good in the community. It is terrible when a scumbag like this makes us look bad.

Spooky
Spooky

You area since thank you right little pussy to work and play with get it streched out she's pregnant at9yrs old when this one us board i willl undertake my pension again and releasa more sperm let them swim up her tubes again. I only function young money the older panel don't want to givem it up anymore the young money feel better on my pensi as the girl hollowers other pappe other daddy yes love you fill me up please

liberals are hypocrites
liberals are hypocrites

im getting a headache trying to follow your grammatically incoherent rant.. let me guess, you are mexican, right? lol.... thanks for making my day, i love coming here to read your posts....

Grumpy4950
Grumpy4950

Stop trying to be the victim here-"mexicano es muy estupido"-because your not the young girl was so get over it !!!!

My2Cents
My2Cents

again with the sugar coating.... ;-)

Jenniferferrara
Jenniferferrara

Your economic concerns, while valid in their own right, would probably be better suited for expression under different circumstances. A horrible act was committed against a defenseless child and in a pathetic act of desperation a very disturbed, perverse individual tried to get his guilty sentence commuted by virtue of an offensive closing argument... Offensive, I'm sure, only to incestuous pedophiles. If the stress on our community's infrastructure and school system is the only thing about this story that sets you ablaze then you seem to me just a deranged as this sicko.

Scretch
Scretch

until she has the baby. 

Charlascupakes
Charlascupakes

I agree with Di, it is not a race thing. People like the writer of the first comment are using this as another reason to hate mexicans. Go to Utah, I'm sure you'll find this is more common in whites than Mexicans. It is unfortunate and sad that this happened, I hope he rots in jail but I'm sure he'll be out sooner than later.

di
di

*She is the victim.

Marial
Marial

He probably looked at your house....

Marial
Marial

Viva La Raza..this goes on so much in Mexico..it's tradition now.This and eating lead candy....

Grumpy4950
Grumpy4950

No I'm not a mexican just for your information I just dislike people like you

mitch young
mitch young

You know, I'll agree with that. That's actually a reasonable criticism. 

Here, I guess, is my reasoning, which certainly was mixed up with emotion.

I would ask, how much is this stuff normal amongst the indigenous communities of Mexico, not so much incest as the treating of young girls as sexual objects. Here for example is a case from 2 years agohttp://www.time.com/time/wo...

So it  might not be sick to Aguilar Perez, it might be something hidden but accepted. 

An Anglo molests a relative, we know its outside the bounds of acceptable behavior, ditto, I hope, with mainstream Mexicans. But now we are getting people from way far south, people who in 500 years have not assimilated into Spanish/Latin/Mexican culture. This may be an example. So that's why I ask why are they here, now. Usually people put forth an economic rational, but is it worth it to have all this to worry about, and to pay for. 

There certainly  are better moments to bring this stuff up.

909Jeff
909Jeff

I think Mexicans still get far too much respect in Utah for this dumbass... He needs to move to West Virginia!

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

Di, you should be able to click on the edit button and correct your error without making a new comment

cy
cy

dad is that you? what are you doing on this article?

Joe
Joe

There are sickos everywhere, this is not some deep seeded exceptance of Mexican society. (Not even sure if this creep is Mexican).  But if you would like to switch over and speak of the clans in the Smokey Mountains, that may be another story?  We American  Latinos  condemn this type of behavior it is sick and disgusting and this guy should die! 

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

umm you mean Promised to pay for her? As I recall that is the only time the father complained was when the guy failed to pay as he promised... and I do not believe the situation in the Time article you referenced occurred in an industrial city but more likely a farm town. I also believe in that case there was a romantic past between the 14 year old girl and her 18 year old husband.

And again I disagree with this being related, most nations have laws against Incest between father & daughter. an 11 year old daughter at that

Jenniferferrara
Jenniferferrara

I see your point. It's not a rhetorical leap to view the situation from a socioeconomic stand point and question how it may effect you personally in some way. Your supporting evidence is moving, but unfortunately well documented almost identically across many cultures. As wonderful as a homogenized community would be, it's unrealistic with our current general inclination towards cultural scapegoating. A stupid person, however they are identified, is still a stupid person. Our collective efforts would be most validated and effective if we focused on the prevention of these heinous crimes and their ramifications on your tax dollars, Mitch.

mitch young
mitch young

You mean between the 14 year old and the 18 year old that paid for her? Maybe, but that isn't how we do things in an advanced industrial society. Which is the whole point.

And maybe this story does have something do with the story at hand. It's a question worth asking. Is this dude from an indigenous community? Is what we would consider molestation common there? 

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

I am curious, one point that seems omitted from the Time Article you posted; was there a loving relationship between the young husband and wife?

But that story is totally Ir-relevant to the story at hand.

Xbrainxspidersx
Xbrainxspidersx

I'm just going to speak for a good bit of west virginians and say that we don't want Anyones hateful, ignorant ass to come here. We love our neighbors until their dog barks too much, We about got this hate thing under control and we absolutely love Mexican food. Theres a bunch of mexicans in west virginia now that I think about it. We have Spanish road signs in Charleston. Oh and incest isn't that common here as much as people would like to think. That shit happens everywhere.

909Jeff
909Jeff

No you are just taking our talking shit to each other far to serious... Yes this was a heinous crime but he will get sweet justice in the form of anal rape while in prison.  I'm saying that a backwards ass hick like "mexicans es muy stupido" should move to west virginia.  So Adrian... reach back and un bunch your chonis. 

Adrian Marquez
Adrian Marquez

no matter who does this kinda shit, no matter what ethnicity, its fucked.... the fuck people... are you all really that naive?

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