[UPDATED with Protest's Emotional Conclusion:] Hundreds Protest Kelly Thomas' Death, Demand Answers From Fullerton PD

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Ed Carrasco
A protester goes right up to the door of the Fullerton Police Department.
​UPDATE, AUGUST 8, 1:07 P.M.: After most of the crowd had left for the day, the remaining 100 or so protesters congregated directly outside the Fullerton Police Department and the tone of the protest intensified. 

The "Jail Killer Cops" chants grew louder and protesters ventured down into the police department's courtyard -- which had remained markedly empty earlier in the day -- and put signs near the door. 

Blogger and businessman Tony Bushala, who stuck around until the end of the protest, says the event ended on a powerful note. "That was history. All these angry protesters in the courtyard. It was really emotional and it was really passionate."
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Ed Carrasco
One of about 100 protesters who stayed at the event until it ended around 3 p.m. holds up a sign in the courtyard of the Fullerton Police Department.
At one point, a police officer came outside, looked around and then went back inside the building, Bushala says. 

Then, around 3 p.m., a megaphone-enhanced voice told the crowd the protest was over, but urged everybody to come back next Saturday.

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Christopher Victorio/OC Weekly
A peaceful protester.
ORIGINAL POST, AUGUST 6, 2:50 P.M.:


Just about every car that zoomed past the crowd of more than 350 protesters gathered near the Fullerton Police Department today, offered a honk and threw up a peace sign. 

People protesting the death of Kelly Thomas -- a homeless, schizophrenic man--at the hands of Fullerton police officers, began to show up before 9 a.m. today. Some chanting "Justice for Kelly," and others hoisting signs: "U R as guilty as 6 cops!" one sign said. Another read: "Are we safe? RELEASE THE TAPE." And another: "God hates killer cops." 

After an hour or so, a group of policemen emerged from the building and blocked off the nearby streets. The officers didn't interact with the protesters, although one of them stopped to shake the hand of Cathy Thomas, Kelly's mom. 

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Christopher Victorio/OC Weekly
Cathy Thomas, Kelly's mom
A misty-eyed Cathy Thomas balanced the roles of mom and protester. She held up a sign, but didn't usually chant with the crowd, although she says she appreciates all the protesters. "Every time I see this many people I feel better. It makes my heart feel better." 

She remembers her son as a caring person and a lover of music. "He liked '60s music. Creedence, The Doors, The Beatles. He loved music so much. His dad taught him to play the guitar and it was his go-to place and nothing else mattered."

Melissa Pape, Kelly's stepsister, remembers him as a protective older brother. "He was the fun one. He was my favorite. He used to call me Turbo," she says. 

Ron Don Thomas, Kelly's father, showed up to the protest late, because he had an interview with MSNBC this morning. He made a personal pledge to share his son's story, and he's not relenting. "Now the fight's on," he says. 
 
Thomas, a onetime Orange County sheriff's deputy himself, says he's working hard to remind people that law enforcement, in general, aren't the bad guys. When speaking of the officers who allegedly beat Kelly to death, however, he doesn't hold back. "I want the death penalty on that guy that beat him with the Taser, and I'll pull the switch," he says. 

Kelly's father says he plans to file a civil suit sometime soon, adding that he's currently consulting with four different attorney firms. Although he recently met with Police Chief Michael Sellers, who Thomas says gave him his personal cell phone number, Thomas is calling on Sellers to resign, saying he hasn't been a good leader. 
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Christopher Victorio/OC Weekly
16-month-old Meadow Senna is not happy.
Many of the protesters agreed, expressing disgust not only with the officers who allegedly beat Kelly, but also with their higher ups. "The cover-up is just as bad as the initial beating," says Mary Meek, an Anaheim resident who was at the protest. 

Another protester, Erin Lewis, who lives in Fullerton, says she's worried about the integrity of the investigation into Kelly Thomas' killing. "The investigation needs to be taken care of, and not by the OCDA [Orange County District Attorney's office], they're in cahoots." 

While anger motivated many, Dana Atkin came out to the protest because the story of Kelly Thomas' life and death hits close to home for her.

Atkin has a son in his 30s who lives with schizophrenia and spent many years living on the streets of Fullerton--all three things were also true of Kelly. "Even though I don't know the Thomas family, I know for a fact what they've had to go through."

Her biggest frustration amidst it all: the lack of support for the mentally ill.

"The system doesn't let them get help," Atkin says, "My son is now in the hospital, but he had to deteriorate to living under a bridge before he got help. He was hospitalized almost 10 times in one year until we were able to get him help."

Like many in the crowd, Tony Bushala, a businessman and blogger who has followed the case closely, says he won't stop protesting until Sellers resigns and a surveillance video is released. "We need transparency," he says.

Bushala added that he went to the homes of Mayor Richard Jones and Councilman Pat McKinley last night, but says nobody answered the doors when he knocked. Bushala decided to skip stopping by at the home of Mayor Pro Tem Don Bankhead, the third person he plans to offer recall papers to. He now plans to drop off copies of the recall papers to the city clerk on Monday. "You can run, but you can't hide," he says. 


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De Collins
De Collins

Think about who becomes policeman, people who want power, sadist, etc.  They get to carry a gun and a tazer and beat and maime.  They are mostly macho, cowards, unintelligent and they make very little money.

De Collins
De Collins

The six cowards who tortured and killed Kelly Thomas are PREDATORS who pounce on the weak.  They should be jailed and their badges removed before another person is killed.

Meyou
Meyou

do the cops really hate us (the homeless) that much they would rather kill us than help us.this has been going on for a long time and it took a death to make you people notice us.  an officer in anaheim told an old man with one foot and a wheel chair that he was going to through his chair in one trash and him in another "beck".  thats how we get treated by most of them.  so if you all think this is only about kelly think again.me

Syboney
Syboney

SUE THE CITY, SUE THE STATE and SUE EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY

malasangre
malasangre

crying or asking for mercy is gas on a fire to bullies.  that is the fun part for them.   ask any cop for a break you will be charged if not killed.

MD
MD

Fullerton ProtesterPrimer On The Use Of Nerfballs In Protesting Police Brutality

 

Before leaving for the protest each individual protester should be wearing at least one article of clothing that prominently displays the “Nerf” logo or the following text: “Nerf Peaceful Protest”.

 

 

Each protester should have at least two Nerfballs in their possession before arriving at protest site.

 

 

Upon arrival the protest leader will remove one Nerfball in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and keep it in plain view.

 

 

After a predetermined amount of time the lead protester will raise their Nerfball overhead; once again in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and continue to display it in plain sight.

 

 

After the protest leader displays their Nerfball overhead, each individual protester should remove their first Nerfball in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and keep it in plain view as did the protest leader previously.

 

 

After a predetermined amount of time each individual protester will raise their Nerfball overhead, once again in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and continue to display it in plain sight.

 

 

After a suitable amount of time the protest leader will toss, underhanded, their Nerfball in a suitable pre-determined direction while clearly communicating verbal dissent.

 

 

After tossing the first Nerfball the protest leader will verbally communicate to the assembled protesters that they should now line up in order to toss their Nerfballs, underhanded, without interference in the same direction as the protest leader. As soon as each protester is clear of one and other they should toss their Nerball, underhanded, in the same direction as the protest leader while clearly communicating verbal dissent.

 

 

After everyone’s first Nerfball has been tossed each protester may toss any remaining Nerballs in their possession in any manner, and direction, they prefer at their individual discretion while continuing to verbally express dissent.

 

 

Prior to assembly each protest group must decide whether or not to pick up the tossed Nerfballs or to refuse and risk fines for littering.

 

 

Lastly, each protestor should update his or her Last Will and Testament in the likely event that police assess tossed Nerfballs as a deadly threat and begin clubbing to death or firing upon protesters during the Nerf peaceful protest.

MD
MD

Fullerton ProtesterPrimer On The Use Of Nerfballs In Protesting Police Brutality

 

Before leaving for the protest each individual protester should be wearing at least one article of clothing that prominently displays the “Nerf” logo or the following text: “Nerf Peaceful Protest”.Each protester should have at least two Nerfballs in their possession before arriving at protest site.Upon arrival the protest leader will remove one Nerfball in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and keep it in plain view.After a predetermined amount of time the lead protester will raise their Nerfball overhead; once again in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and continue to display it in plain sight.After the protest leader displays their Nerfball overhead, each individual protester should remove their first Nerfball in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and keep it in plain view as did the protest leader previously.After a predetermined amount of time each individual protester will raise their Nerfball overhead, once again in a conspicuous but non-threatening manner and continue to display it in plain sight.After a suitable amount of time the protest leader will toss, underhanded, their Nerfball in a suitable pre-determined direction while clearly communicating verbal dissent.After tossing the first Nerfball the protest leader will verbally communicate to the assembled protesters that they should now line up in order to toss their Nerfballs, underhanded, without interference in the same direction as the protest leader. As soon as each protester is clear of one and other they should toss their Nerball, underhanded, in the same direction as the protest leader while clearly communicating verbal dissent.After everyone’s first Nerfball has been tossed each protester may toss any remaining Nerballs in their possession in any manner, and direction, they prefer at their individual discretion while continuing to verbally express dissent.Prior to assembly each protest group must decide whether or not to pick up the tossed Nerfballs or to refuse and risk fines for littering.Lastly, each protestor should update his or her Last Will and Testament in the likely event that police assess tossed Nerfballs as a deadly threat and begin clubbing to death or firing upon protesters during the Nerf peaceful protest.

Paul Lucas
Paul Lucas

God Bless kelly Thomas and his family. God Bless Tony Bushala and those who came out to protest the abuse of the least among us. God Bless those who speak out for someone they didnt even know. God Bless my fellow Americans. Those officers should not be receiving pay while on leave. Thier pay shold be placed into a trust that would be used to settle the monetary awards the family are bound to receive from this travesty. Recall the council members who have been so callous and cold to the family and friends and ordinary citizens of Fullerton and Orange County.

Ehand3
Ehand3

The officers should not justbe on administrative leave, they should be terminated, since not one of themdid anything to stop the beating. State & Fed officials must determine theappropriateness of comparing this beating to gang violence - done by a police"gang". Therefore, criminal charges against the "officers"may or may not be appropriate, depending on existing procedural adherence. Inaddition, charges should be filed against them and against the police cheif bythe state, for failure to represent the state with proper law enforcingprocedures (or failure to follow such procedures) in a city located in thatstate. Federal charges should be made against that state for failure toproperly assess and enforce procedures by auditing their cities' PD procedures,and adherence to those procedures, used by that state's cities, where mentalpatients are involved in law enforcement, and where establishing criteria fortype and quantity of force used, as well as the number of "police backupbuddies" required. Federal criteria should be established for providingappropriate treatment of criminals whose sanity is unknown. States should haveleeway, as to how that criteria is met, but must demonstrate procedureconformance in a federal audit. In turn the states must be required to auditcity PD procedures for dealing with the insane, and report those audit resultsto the federal government. Any incident, such as this one, should be consideredeither a procedure failure, or a failure to follow such procedure. In whichcase, such as this one, the feds and the state must be involved to demand,witness, and approve of preventative corrective action, in order to keepanything remotely like this from happening again. My brother is a schizophrenic, has been missingsince July 11, has been off his meds (Zyprexa) for even longer, and has beenfailed by the "system". More than two years ago he was mistakenlyprescribed with Abilify (not for schizophrenia), at a local hospital, whichmade him very crazy - the police were called to his group home, he fought back,hit a policeman, was thrown in jail, and began to lose weight until we werevery concerned. After nearly a year, he was finally released on the groundsthat he was not mentally responsible. Thank God, the police, who took him in,knew that he was insane and didn't beat. However, I heard that they tased him.A paddy wagon would've been much more appropriate for someone whose heartfunction is already compromised by living on drugs for schizophrenia for years.They had to do something, but they weren't prepared for a mental patient.

Faith
Faith

On July 18, Det. Donna Williams, 52, a 31-year veteran and mainstay of the child-abuse unit, was stabbed to death in her home along with her 18-year-old daughter, Briana. Williams' 24-year-old son, Brian, has been charged; his lawyer says he is suffering from mental illness.

Above is a news clip from the San Diego PD. Her son suffered from mental illness and they paid the ultimate price...Why is it that Kelly's mother is hiding the truth about their son. When questioned about an incident that occurred a year ago, she can't recall. Police reports indicate that Kelly's mother called the police because their son Kelly was out of control, but yet she can't recall...BS...I'm going out on a limb...The article above reads that the Kelly's are consulting with FOUR different Law firms...HMMMMM...do i see $$$$$ at the end of the tunnel. Why on earth would anyone be interviewing and consulting with so many law firms....well because of $$...no other reason, Lawyer are sharks and when they smell blood, boy do they turn out for the pay day...Being a father and losing my son would be devastating to me...I'd be depressed for months...Kelly's father is outraged, as he should be, but now he is getting so much attention and jumping on every minute of air time. I pray that every penny gained from the settlement is used towards helping the homeless. I don't want see the Kelly’s benefit from their son's death...Kelly was homeless living on the streets...He was heard yelling for his father when taken into custody...Which to my ears brought chills and sadness to my heart. I stood back and listened to the amateur video shot and heard "Dad, Dad". The first thing that came to my mind, Kelly was abandoned by his family and Kelly was crying out for help, like he has been for most of his life. I challenge the Kelly's to do the right thing. And all of you supporters...I say to the City of Fullerton, open your arms to all the homeless people and provide a shelter for them...I know Santa Ana has a large population of homeless...I'm sure the word will get out that Fullerton supports the homeless..Thank you for stepping up Silva..The great council woman that you are...Now that OC knows there are so many of you that care, we no longer have to worry about the homeless.

When this over in 2 or 3 years, I hope the OC Register will keep a close eye on the Kelly's just to make sure that all of the statements made today are carried out tomorrow...

May God Bless every American...We are entitled to our opinion...but actions speak louder than words...and holding a sign is not action...handing a cup of soup and a sandwich to someone who is hungry is...Which God has witness me do numerous times...and that is what really counts... 

Po
Po

the case is under investigation. What exactly is it that the protesters want? Justice? It will come. 

 They will get justice for their son. Too much attention and evidence for this case to be swept away. The protestors need to wait for the investigation to be completed. Asking the Chief of Police to resign does not help anything. It's just gut reaction hysteria politics that is sweeping the minds of the protestors.A man was killed, this we know and the people who killed him will be brought to trial. If they are not, then you go out to the streets and protest. Doing it now is premature and only being fueled by emotions.

Phat Phunk
Phat Phunk

It's dangerous to impersonate a pinata!

Faith
Faith

Oh my....This should be self explanatory. But of course you have educated idiots who believe their way or the highway...There is what is called a Justice system...No one is saying the Officers were justified in what they did...Pay ATTENTION...The Officer's involved in this incident will be investigated...Kelly's death will not be ignored...But public perception is that the DA's Office has the ability to conceal or magically produce evidence that will exonerate or justify the incident...HELLO PEOPLE>>>grab a cup of coffee and wake up! The DA or FBI will not profit from this investigation...You folks that all of sudden feel compelled to voice your opinion are coming out of the woods. Gosh..if all of you heart felled concerned citizens were supportive of all the homeless and took care of them, this incident may not of occurred. But the PD received a call from a CONCERNED citizen that a subject was breaking into cars...Police responded to a radio call and what happen next will be investigated...Do law enforcement officers engage in criminal activity, I think not! Are there Officers who over react to incident because of lack of life experience, oh yea...count on it. You can't compare a street savvy cop versus a college educated officer who was raised in Sunny Hills in a bubble. No secret 20 years of law enforcement allows me to render my opinion. If any of you out there that is so quick to judge and pull out the key board and blast officers, join our world of reality...In closing, I ask my self..what if this incident would of occurred on Sept. 12, 2001...Would any really care?..Would people be lined up in front of Fullerton PD..No, but society and radio talk shows need something to stir the pot...who would pay the bills if listeners didn’t call in to get ratings...Kelly...R.I.P. Mr. Thomas, you know dam well it was not the Officers intent to kill your son...But the fact he died at the hands of law enforcement you will get JUSTICE...

Sam Spade
Sam Spade

It is fairly obvious that the problem of, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" (who will police the police) applies here. If the D.A. in the same jurisdiction is the one who will examine the evidence and decide on further legal action it will be very difficult if not impossible for him to do this with any balance of fairness. He is in the same system and must deal on a collegial basis  with fellow officers of the people involved. This investigation must be given to federal representatives for fact-finding. I see people commenting on this and attempting to allude to some crime committed by this mentally ill man. What crime, an unbalanced man ran away and was beaten to death for his (crime?). Also if the police are going to use tasers as clubs well then give them nightsticks and take away their tasers. Hey, nightsticks are a lot cheaper so you'd get more whack for the buck.  Humans are animals and as such change their natures when in groups, let's call them mobs. It seems that these police formed a mob and administered mob justice. That will teach people who dare to run. The police should sponsor an ad showing videos of this beating and what therefore can happen in any encounter with them. It would be a good object lesson for anyone, especially mentally ill persons who might flee out of fear. I've seen pictures of the victim and it appears that every one of the officers involved weighed more than him so this is pretty much the definition of cowardice any way you look at it. If occurrences like this continue and people get the idea that the police are a bullying danger to them  and that they have no legal recourse then they may begin to go about armed just in self defense. What would have happened if there were a large number of armed citizens watching this beating and they decided to intervene instead of standing around like a bunch of cowardly sheep? If this happened then after a few deadly confrontations the police would be chary of protecting law abiding citizens. This would be detrimental to our civil society and must not be allowed to occur.

Guest
Guest

Seriously, there are that many people with nothing better to do with their time? Get a life. No, a real like.

Faith
Faith

Please quit joining the band wagon...All of you individuals who have nothing better to do with your time have all come together to protest against those who are hired to protect you. Now Silva, council woman, is using this incident as a political move to gain popularity among you so called concerned citizens. As for Chief Sellers, don't think about stepping down. There is overwhelming evidence that will either convict or free those officers. The DA's office and FBI are conducting taped interview with all the witnesses and being transcribed. The Officer's involved in the incident must justify their actions...So, now that an unfortunate incident occurred in the bubble city of Fullerton and Silva demanding the Chief to step down. welcome to reality..Well Silva, why don't you quit hiding behind a mic and step in as Chief of Police and hit the streets... I'm sure you will enjoy walking the alleys at 3:00am looking for armed suspects or responding to a citizen who is too scared to walk outside his/her home in mid morning hours cause they heard a noise...Brothers in BLUE... May GOD be with you....There is not one OFFICER that ever responds to a call with the intention of hurting or killing anyone...Officer's react to what ever situation that is presented to them...And a reaction that often times has to be made within seconds...Kelly RIP...Your in a better place in heaven, rather than being homeless in the City of Fullerton. Now that your dead, people care

Willy Gagem
Willy Gagem

how many times do you thin his dad beat people up mosty probably minorties. Karma is a mofo. If it was a white guy who got killed in fullerton no one would care

Sgt. Gohbo Nans
Sgt. Gohbo Nans

hide your kids, hide your wife hide your kids, hide your wife hide your kids.. go skull gaggy on these damn cops. I will shove my fat long dong up each and everyone of these damn jotos

todd90000
todd90000

If the police had arrived and found that a gang of six civilians had bludgeoned a man to death, it would not take months, or even weeks, or days, or hours or even minutes to make an arrest.  The civilians would be IMMEDIATELY arrested and the DA would parade them in front of the cameras with a "perp walk."  Those six police officers took an oath to DEFEND that man's safety and PROTECT his rights (including from their storm trooper brethren).  If anything, police officers should be held to a higher standard.  It is simply inexplicable that the public safety establishment and its apologists engage in ongoing rhetorical gymnastics to excuse these actions.  Every day that those thugs breath free air is a grotesque injustice against the People of California.  And the fact that they have now enjoyed more "paid time off" than most law-abiding Americans get in a year is the ultimate insult.

ALICIA
ALICIA

MURDER=There is NO OTHER WORD FOR WHAT THESE 6 COPS DID TO KELLY THOMAS.  There was no "benefit of the doubt" here, FAITH (as I have ADMITTEDLY noticed that there has been in other  cases of POLICE BRUTALITY).  Kelly was HELPLESSLY ON THE GROUND & NOT MOVING AT ALL, yet those 6 Fullerton COPS CONTINUED TO BEAT HIM TO DEATH RIGHT UP UNTIL HE STOPPED SCREAMING, BECAUSE (no surprise here) KELLY THOMAS COULDN'T SCREAM ANY LONGER ONCE HE HAD FINALLY FKING DIED!!!!!!  I'm a woman.  I'm not a violent person, but if ALL 6 of those officers ARE NOT PUT IN JAIL (FOR A VERY LONG TIME) FOR THE HORRIFIC CRIME THEY COMMITTED AGAINST THIS UNARMED, HOMELESS, MAN, I WILL MOST DEFINITELY FKING JOIN WHATEVER RIOT INEVITABLY TAKES PLACE!!!!!!!!

L

Justine
Justine

It's not about just the homeless. Fullerton PD has been corrupt for decades. This incident and the way it was handled proves this is just another day for them. There is no integrity. Thank God for talk radio for bringing this out. Fullerton PD has been using excessive force and getting away with it way too long.

CHS
CHS

I feel safer with logic-deprived police officers such as you on the beat lol.

Luciddreamsrule
Luciddreamsrule

I ACCIDENTALLY replied to you, so PLEASE FLAG MY REPLY?

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PatrickR
PatrickR

KI, perhaps I heard the news incorrectly but wasn't the dirtbag killed in London a gang member who was armed.  That's a piss poor comparison to make with Kelly Thomas.  Kelly was no gang banger, was not armed and although mentally challenged and violent did not deserve to die in the street.  In addition, I don't think you can compare the good citizens of Fullerton who are law abiding to the hooligans, misfits and third world rejects who overran London.    

PatrickR
PatrickR

Sam, I can see from your comments that you are no relation the the famous private detective Sam Spade.  Not sure where you are from, but in Orange County, the District Attorney's Office has handled the investigations on Police shootings and use of force deaths for many years.  The D.A.'s staff is highly competent, professional and have never been accused of not being objective in an investigation.  The investigation is proceeding just like any other major incident case.  A detailed and organized process is being followed.  In the end, when the evidence has been analyzed, all Officers/witnesses interviewed, autopsy results studied, a detailed report will be issued.  I am content to wait until that report is finished before I run around pointing the finger of blame based on rumors, inuendo and personal bias.  Doing the things I just mentioned is what is detrimental to our society.  We have a Criminal Justice System which works nicely if it is given a chance.    

Cyber
Cyber

are you crazy you stupid man....or woman...This a police state...If you do this in Europe you are Done for ever...we should all then let the police do what they like...beta people, kill people....huh....Are you a conformist to save your skin...without a regard for others...cool ...you belong in the sub-human category.....

Musical__melissa
Musical__melissa

So you consider standing up for the rights of the common citizen a waste of time, huh?  Standing up for injustice?  For people in power that are not representing the public properly?  Using tax money in ways that does not protect it's citizens? 

Geez, sounds a bit like how this country started.  Yo!  Georgie boy!  Benji boy!  Your revolution in 1776 was a waste of time.  Don't you have better things to do?  Get a life!

Pfurman5165
Pfurman5165

There are rogue cops and have always been rogue cops who go out and kill innocent people.  Don't think cops are above the law and  don't commit crimes, because you would definitely be afraid if you how many police officers have been convicted of crimes unrelated to their police jobs.

PatrickR
PatrickR

Faith, good thoughts and glad to see someone other than myself is standing up to the "Rush to judgement" ass holes. 

malasangre
malasangre

"and the overwhelming evidence" for freedom is.......................crickets.  PS  Silva has not been hired to be the struttin shit talkin po-po.  she is NOT hiding  she IS representing her constituency or did you not notice the 600 people at the last rally?   bs cicinelli always has the intention of harming bearded homeless people.  they are easy targets.  ask his blue butt brothers what he had to say in the locker room.

John Gordon
John Gordon

Sure, crower. That's why Fullerton's city manager has just asked for an external review of the police department's policies and procedures. Go take a Xanax, you dimwitted tool: http://fullertonstories.com/ci...

CHS
CHS

Good points except for the small reality that overwhelming physical evidence showing excessive force was used.

Al
Al

Are you part if the police department and that is why you feel in that way PIG

FPOA BUSTER
FPOA BUSTER

I call BULLSHIT on the UNION MEMBER above.

Interviews are NOT being taped (by the DA), copious note taking perhaps. But few if any witnesses have been recorded on video or audio as of 7-21. FACT.

FPOA has people like "Faith" out in full force right now.

confused
confused

I didn't notice you out there representing the other side.  Next time wear a big "support the police" button and give voice to the opposition.

william t
william t

And in Nazi Germany, you would have gladly reported the Jew living next door.

Guest
Guest

That is a great point. Where were all of these concerned citizens when he was on the streets? Why did it take himing getting killed for people to give a shit about his life? And for those bandwaoners, don't try to act like you cared before this happened, because you didn't. Just get ready to jump onto the next "big story." This one has had way more than it's 15 minutes.

Theseeker
Theseeker

Peace be to you, and also with you

PatrickR
PatrickR

ma, what is that language you are trying to speak?  Despite your words to the contrary, it seems at least from my observations that Silva is on her soap box, doing a lot of shit talking about things she knows nothing about.  Of course, being able to shit talk out of both sides of their mouth seems to be the norm for most politicans these days.  As far as your criticism of Officer Cincinelli, while I have never met him, we all know that you need to grow a set of balls before you are even in the same universe with him.  He doesn't sit in front of a computer all day mouthing the mumbo jumbo crappola that you do.  He is in the streets, well at least he was in the streets of Fullerton working to clean up the problems of ordinary citizens who need help. Just what have you done to help anyone else lately?  People like you are now ranting and raving about the injustice to Kelly Thomas, when in reality you would have spit on him had you passed him on the street before.  Your time would be better served attending an ESL class.   

PatrickR
PatrickR

Al, are you the kind of ass hole who has had "attitude tune up" by the Cops and now walks around with a chip on his shoulder.  Is that why you feel the way you do? 

PatrickR
PatrickR

Buster, I would be very surprised if the investigators are not getting written statements from the witnesses.  That is basic investigation 101. 

Musical__melissa
Musical__melissa

 This of course is directed toward anyone defending the rogue police that don't belong in society much less in a position of authority.

Your Weak
Your Weak

Grasping at straws.  The fact remains.  If they consider 6 men on 1 to subdue a person justified?  And resulting in death and not apprehension?  Then obviously they are not fit for the job and need to be disposed of and replaced by officers that can handle it without creating a blood bath.  There is no justification for what happened.  And every argument given in defense of this?  One word.  WEAK. 

malasangre
malasangre

uh because he was living as he wanted.  how does that equate with caring about him now you fuckin douche

PatrickR
PatrickR

You ever been in a fight Ma, or did you just hang on to momma's apron string and let her fight for you?  I have seen incidents where a 100 pound female went postal and it was all that four Police Officers could do to subdue and get the restraints on her.  The size, sex or weight of a person has nothing to do with their physical strength when the chemicals in the body take over and they become enraged.  Pepperspray doesn't always work and in some cases pisses the person off more than they already are.  Taser's impact different people in different ways and it also does not work all the time.  Repeated shocks are not good and sometimes causes permanent injury or death.  The Police Baton is a tool that is in the Use of Force Continum, has it's place but it too is not always effective and makes the suspect more angry.  There are other non-lethal tools available to most Officers, but the bottom line is that none work 100% of the time and it is difficult to switch options in the middle of a battle.  Unless you have been there and had to deal with it, you haven't a clue what an Officer experiences, so give it a rest.   

PatrickR
PatrickR

Ma, they say, "it takes one, to know one."  Guess you know what that makes you bub?  You really need to get back on your meds again? 

malasangre
malasangre

a gun a  taser, pepper spry, a club, weighted gloves and you would still be afraid of a man that weighed at least 100 lbs less than you?  hmmmmm must be a cop

malasangre
malasangre

what would you call 6 on one cop turd likker

Talconda
Talconda

So it should be one on one? Should the police have to fear for their lives to make the odds better for you? Turd.

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