Ron Thomas Meets With Fullerton Mayor Dick Jones to Discuss His Son's Death-by-Fullerton- Cops

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Fullerton Mayor F. Richard Jones is "about ready to quit," Ron Thomas, father of police beating death victim Kelly Thomas, said after his two-hour one-on-one meeting.

Speaking at Fullerton City Hall this morning, Ron Thomas said that after last night's raucous city council meeting, Jones told him that he contemplated stepping down after 15 years as an elected official. Thomas added that Jones is not in good health at this time, which could make such an exit possible. (Editor's note: See our post about the KFI reports of Jones' resignation.)


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His lengthy discussion with the mayor also touched on Jones' handling of the July 5th beating that has riled Fullerton residents and has attracted international coverage. Thomas said that despite the mayor's statements to the public, he is more intelligent than how he presents himself.

"He understands fully what is going on [in the Kelly Thomas case]," Thomas said. "He is deeply concerned about my son. He absolutely wants to know the truth about how my son died."

Thomas also questioned him about the hiring practices of the Fullerton Police Department, including how former police chief and currently city Council Member Pat McKinley hired Joe Jay Cicinelli, a police officer with one eye, whom he said was the man who put the butt of the Taser on his son's head. Kelly's dad also presented to the media an e-mail he sent to the Fullerton Police Department on July 14 which the police acknowledge only last week about Officer Kenton Hampton's involvement in a video where he punched a man taping an arrest in Downtown Fullerton. Thomas said that the officer is "disgusting" and was the man who kneed Kelly in the throat as the other five beat his son.

After Thomas finished his press conference, Sylvia Palmer, Fullerton's Public Information Officer, told the numerous reporters and cameras outside City Hall that Jones would not make comments at this time.


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Stacy M
Stacy M

Why didn't the father have his schizo son committed to an institution instead of letting him run homeless on the streets where he could jeopardize the safety of the public??? They all say that mentally ill people are harmless, that is, until the snap and go psycho and kill people. 

Paul Steven
Paul Steven

the fullerton Mayor is named Dick Jones?  I bet he has an ED209 somewhere

Soho_d J
Soho_d J

I can't hear what yer saying w all those cop dicks in yer mouth, who asked you to post your know nothing opinion? Go back to watching O.C. Housewives.

Stacy R
Stacy R

Stacy M: Just to let you know, a very small amount of people with mental disorders kill people. I'm sorry that you've jumped to the wrong conclusion. Please get a little more informed about a a subject before you make such hurtful comments. My brother worked in the Mental Ward of the V.A. hospital and he retired from there after 20 years with no harm done, so the fact you would say such a thing really IS insane.

PatrickR
PatrickR

Stacy, not defending Ron Thomas but understanding how the system works and having dealt with mental cases (5150's) many times over the years, there is another side of the coin.  There is  a very fine line between those the law allows us to commit and those we can't.  For a forced lock up, the person has to be an immediate danger to either  themself  or others.  When people meet that criteria, they are generally held and evaluated by psychiatric professionals for 72 hours and a determination made at to long term probabilities.  Due to overcrowding in psychiatric facilities, only the worst of the worst of the nut cases are locked up, with the rest being returned to the streets.  From my reading of the news, it would appear that Kelly Thomas was diagnoised with Schizophrenia and being treated as an outpatient with medication.  As with many such people, he didn't like the side efffects of the meds and stopped taking them.  That was his choice, as was living on the streets.  Being a father myself, I can only imagine the pain that Kelly's condition caused his mother and father.  I am also sure that as would any parent, they ran the full cycle of options in trying to get help for their son.  While I don't agree with some of the stuff Ron Thomas has been doing, it is not for me to judge a man who has just lost his son.  On a darker note Stacy, if you knew how many nut cases fifty times worse than Kelly Thomas there are wondering the streets of America just looking for their next victim, you would lock your door and not come out.

Dbo90274
Dbo90274

Jeez.  You're an idiot.  No, really, you are a complete and utter idiot. 

Joejack
Joejack

"I work for Dick Jones! Dick Jones! He's the number two guy at OCP. OCP runs the cops! You're a cop!"

Marjorie Phillips
Marjorie Phillips

How is it you are vicious toward the mayor?  He wasn't one of the "men" who beat that young fellow.  Perhaps you should direct your anger at the ones who deserve it rather than spewing venom towards someone who has been trying to help your community  for years.

Beefsupreme77
Beefsupreme77

Patrick... you're really creeping everyone out!!

Timmy
Timmy

dude your such a fag. Its all corrupt, you must be in some form of goverment cause you talk like a brainwashed idiot. The fact that he's white and his dad is somebody is getting it a lot of airtime. Goverments will fall and the shield you think you have will fall also. Then you be getting your ass slammed by all the people you have bullied. You might like that you ass pirate.

Guest
Guest

The mayor is a moron pure and simple.

Mark Stouffer
Mark Stouffer

How is what I said vicious towards the Mayor? I am just trying to find out what happened and there are two conflicting stories, the one above and the one I linked to above in my comment. Can you explain how I was being vicious Marjorie? I didn't feel vicious. Where did I spew venom? Are you sure you are talking to me?

But if you are talking about the protesters and so many other people who are speaking out  about our civil governance, perhaps it is because it took protests in the streets to bring this matter to light. Perhaps it is because surveillance video, bought and paid for by citizens to keep citizens safe, is being used like the private property of a public institution. And those who are charged with special powers and special rules are the very ones we should be defended from! You may notice a stridency and speakers may seem mean when civil blood makes civil hands unclean.

Mark Stouffer
Mark Stouffer

PatrickR I would like you to consider the possibility that you might be a real dumbfuck. Now let me tell you why I think this might be the case: I am not running around. I am not waving my arms. I am not bitching. I'm not whining like any kind of woman. I'm not demanding this or that. I haven't condemned any of the public officials and I do live in Fullerton and in fact take the bus from the same platform that the video was taken from. In fact I departed that platform about 20 minutes before this incident occurred. "...protesters have accomplished anything other than give all the citizens of Fullerton a black eye". Here is where your ignorance shines forth like a beacon declaring, "Blame the victim. Blame the victim!" Your point it that it is not the Police Officers who beat a man so severely that he died from the beating that gives the city a black eye. It's not the bumbling official that says, "I've seen worse" about fatal injuries, and compares them to ones he's seen in Viet Nam. These don't give the city a black eye, you say, if we just would have ignored them. It's the people who point out the wrongs that make the wrongs wrong. With this one statement you condemn every whistleblower that has ever existed, and you vindicate every criminal who wears a uniform. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Amin, Il, maybe they did something wrong but let's wait and see what their courts say. It's so wrong I don't even have to read the rest of your message. I can see you already have enough problems to deal with. Good luck.I just hope if you ever get drug out of your car or home and beat to death you can hear the people saying, "Maybe he did something to deserve it? Maybe the cops overreacted. People make mistakes. Oh well, shit happens."

Sr. Z
Sr. Z

The OC DA's office is corrupt beyond belief.  How many times have they EVER filed against law enforcement officers in OC?  The Federal Department of Justice should be investigating Fullerton's police department AND OC DA.

PatrickR
PatrickR

Mark, there ae a lot of conflicting stories about what happened in this incident.  People like yourself are running around waving their arms, bitching and whining like a bunch of old women (No offense meant to women).  You demand this and demand that, condemn public officials and probably don't even live in Fullerton?  If you think you or the other protesters have accomplished anything other than give all the citizens of Fullerton a black eye, then you are dumb as a rock.  The District Annorney's Office was on this case from the start, just as they are on all similar cases in Orange County.  The D.A.'s staff is highly professional and very good at doing investigations just like this one.  Add to that the Civil Rights invetigation being done by the FBI and chances of any facts going undiscovered or being white washed are slim and none.  Get off your soap box and knock off the bull shit you are putting out.  When the investigations are done, the evidence analyzed (including the tapes), the witnesses and officers interviewed, conclusions will be drawn by the professionals.  Then you, I and all the other members of the lynch mob will know exactly what happened and who did what to whom.  Most certainly we will also know which specific laws were violated if any, by the officers.  If the officers broke the law, then they deserve to and will be prosecuted for their conduct.  Believe it or not, the System actually works but you have to give it a chance.       

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