[UPDATED with PD Protest PHOTOS:] Kelly Thomas' Retired Deputy Father Blasts Fullerton Police for 'Killing My Son'

It's good to read a post like yours to know that some people treated Kelly with compassion. Sounds like you have a good heart ~ God Bless

It's true, these Rouge Cops are everywhere...I have seen and experienced this type of rouge behavior personally...cops - 8 of them, guns drawn- with automatic rifles in front of my  house, ordering my 14 year old son to lie on the floor...dragging him down my driveway, injuring him, that was the scene when I came home....

It wasn't till my neighbor informed these cops that I had survelliance cameras on my property and that I worked for a law firm that they changed their attitude and backed down...a Seargant was then sent to "speak" to me... I told him this was a  a violation of my son's civil rights who by the way, WAS A MINOR...

Needless to say, I pursued litigation and also filed a "police brutality compliant" in the city where I live.  I wanted these Rogue Cops to be punished...nothing ever came of the "investigation"!   Needless to say, I was OUTRAGED!  I don't believe in our justice system anymore and I have lost confidence in police officers!

yeah whatever..next time you need a cop call the The Ghostbusters!!

Face facts, if Kelly's father wasn't a retired officer himself no notice would have been taken of this particular beating. Unless the abused person is black and a very vocal spokeman for that community becomes involved the story would'nt even make the paper, let alone TV or council meeting. What happened to the case where teen female was shot inside her car in Riverside? nada, how about the man coming to his door, in the middle of the night, in response to loud knocking, AT THE WRONG DOOR, shot & killed by police, nada, where are the questions about why brooms, etc. were used to sodomise a detainee back east, nada, what REALLY happened to Ron Settles? This case, too, would soon be forgotten except his dad has some credibility. Average people, you and me, Joe regular guy, would never see justice. Frightening thought, that, eh??? Look into police actions in other countries and you will see that those carrying a badge are, many times, worse than the other criminals among us. We are beginning to spiral down and I fear for the future, as we all shoiuld...bottom line, keep your head down or learn to grab your ankles. dogsRbetter

Where does it say this guy was a baby goat or a child? He was a 37 year old man! NOT a CHILD!

Yes, because starting a scene could get you killed, as cops can likely get away with murder

You are a total retarded loser. Police are not above the law  and they are not god either.Some people comply with the cops if and what it depends on what the cop are doing to that person for them to comply with them since cops are not above the law,Police are criminals when they are doing wrong to other people they are not angels .... You are just a low life scum bag if you believe Police officers are in the right to do wrong to others which is never the case. You are really fuck up and stupid like the Cops out there are,if you think like that and Police are never in the right to break the law or do harm to other people.

When a person is confronted by police for no reson, a person should pertect their rights and take a stand. Why simply submit and comply. Look at the videos of the scene released recently, one cop pushed a person just taking the video " what crime is that". I hope this goes National and all the bad cops are weeded out. I wonder if Kelly was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got beat to death by the police. Don't you!

Courts and lawyers won't help Kelly.  He is now a murder victim, and his killers are protected.  The courts and lawyers will determine how well protected these killers are.It took a long time, but the Danziger Brige murderers finally went down.  Look it up, if you don't know what happened. 

Hi.  I am the mother of a 28 year old son who has suffered from schizophrenia since he was 18 years old.  I know that many people have no clue about what this terrible disease does to our loved ones.  I would like to try to help by sharing some information about this disease with those who may be unfamiliar with the ravages of schizophrenia.

People who suffer from this devastating DISEASE do NOT act like other people. NOR CAN THEY BE EXPECTED TO. 

Schizophrenia is a BRAIN DISORDER.  Schizophrenia most often makes sufferers become paranoid, very confused, very anxious around loud noises or crowds and very distrustful. They are often unable to remember instructions, unable to follow verbal instructions and they often have extremely short-term memory problems.  Not to mention the fact that they are likely to become very defensive if confronted with loud, angry, menacing or critical voices, especially if more than one person is talking at a time.

Their speech, and thoughts often become very disorganized.  They may talk or laugh to themselves.  They have no motivation at all to do anything that they used to enjoy doing. They do not have "fun" or enjoy being around other people. They often prefer to be isolated and alone. They often no longer care about grooming, nor remember to groom themselves, bathe, change clothing, flush the toilet, etc. without constant reminding.

People who suffer from schizophrenia often can not tolerate  being touched at all, and often do not like to be looked at directly in the eyes. If you look them directly in the eyes for more than a second while speaking to them, they may say somnething like this: "Why are you stabbing me with needles in my eyes??"  Schizophrenics are very sensitive to  sounds and background noises such as birds chirping,noise from cars, noise from shopping cart wheels being pushed along the pavement, doorbells, vacuums, tvs, radios, people talking loudly, dogs barking, or the fan running inside a computer.  My son took apart his very expensive, and perfectly functioning computer because he said the fan inside was broken and making too much noise.  No one else noticed this noise, but him.  My son took his computer completely apart and had the pieces spread all over his bedroom floor; he did this several times. 

Also, my son could not tolerate the neighbor's wind chimes constantly making noise, nor our family's dog's collar and dog tags clanking on the edge of the water dish as the dog got a drink.  My son could not tolerate the sound of flushing toilets or the sound of running water from a shower, etc.  This noise drives him to distraction and made it difficult for him to function. My son took his mattress off of his bed and put it up against the wall to block out noises from coming into his room.  He also refused to flush the toilet or to take a shower because of the noise.  Schizophrenics can also be  very sensitive to touch; if you touch them on the hand it may very likely send a "shock wave" up their entire arm and into their body.  Very often, their eyes are very sensitive to sunlight; they will wear sunglasses at ALL times if possible, even inside the house. My son would not get near the TV set, because he was afraid the TV set was going to "suck him inside."  He thought the people on TV were speaking directly to him and telling him things to do.

Schizophrenics can not manage their finances at all and will give away the shirt off their back if someone wants it. My son gave away his extremely valuable and  prized Fender guitar and other items. My son has not picked up, nor played any of his other guitars since he became ill.  His Marshall amps and other equipment remains unused. Schizophrenics usually become "stuck in the past."  If they were interested in skateboarding, or in Magic cards, baseball cards, or whatever, when they became ill..then that is what they are most likely still obsessed with.  My son loved to play the card game called "Magic" with his friends when he was younger.  Today, at age 28, he has all of his pockets jammed full of his Magic cards..even though he never actually plays the game with anyone. He just shuffles through the decks and looks at them hour after hours.  Often he writes unintelligible writing all over the cards. He says that he writes on them in order to relieve the stress that he is feeling.  Every time we go to the store, he wants to buy more Magic cards.  He probably has thousands of them. He is like a child who constantly needs reminding to do the simplest of things, including to brush his teeth. When I ask my son a question, I will usually need to repeat the question again before he understands what I just said. Or, after a few minutes, he will ask me, "What did you just ask me?  Or, what did you say? He will often take a long time before answering.  It takes him a long time to process information. This is very typical of people suffering from schizophrenia. 

In order to try to understand what a person with schizophrenia lives with on a daily basis: imagine yourself standing in an appliance store...looking at a large wall full of different televisions sets, all turned up loud and all of them on different channels.  Now, how well could you understand what was being said on any one of those T.V. sets?? Now, imagine that you believed  that all of the people on those TV sets were speaking directly to you..and that they were saying terrible, horrible things to you.  You would find it very difficult to function in the real world with all of those voices in your head that are constantly talking to you, saying terrible things about you, or to you.  

All of these things that I have mentioned above, and even more that I have not mentioned, (I could go on and on) will put a person who suffers from schizophrenia on the defensive.  Similar to the reaction of a cornered animal; they go into a self preservation mode. 

People who suffer from schizophrenia most often do not have insight into their own disease.  That means that they do not have the ability to understand the fact that they are ill and they usually do NOT believe that they are ill; instead, they believe that other people around them are ill.  This is why it is so difficult to get a person who suffers from schizophrenia to take their medications.  If YOU did not believe that there was anything wrong with you...would YOU want to take medications that gave you terrible side effects??  And, after many years, if a person with schizophrenia does begin to understand that he needs to take medication, he often cannot remember to do so.  Or he will lose track of whether, or not, he took them that day, where he left them, etc.  They need a lot of support and help in order to stay on meds.

  And, according to our current laws, you cannot force someone to take meds if they don't want to take them.  And, if a family member tries to get medical help for a loved one who suffers from schizophrenia, you will quickly find that it is nearly impossible to get help for someone against his will, unless that person "is determined to be a danger to himself, a danger to others, or gravely disabled."  

If my ill loved one is out in public (it is not against the law to be mentally ill), walking around, or sitting somewhere, etc.... and you decide to arrest him....  Don't bash his head in with a flashlight, just because you can't get him to act like other people. Or just because you can't get him to be silent and motionless while you are beating him sensless. My loved one is not able to act in the way that you are demanding of him.  And, I don't  believe that ANYONE could be silent and motionless while he is being beaten to death. Not even a police officer could hold to that high standard.

So, as I watch the video of this poor, helpless, mentally ill man, only calling out to his father for help, as he is being  beaten to death by officers who have sworn to protect- it is beyond revolting, sickening and disgusting to me.  I sit here in anguish and in disbelief that we, as a  society, treat mentally ill people and the homeless far worse than animals. 

Mental illness affects MILLIONS of families.  Ask around.  Almost everyone knows someone, or knows OF someone, who is affected in some way by  devastating mental illnesses. It is time for Americans to be educated about mental illness...and to be compassionate.  Some day, mental illness will affect you too, ..one way or another.  

Thanks for reading this...and for hopefully understanding just a little bit more about what it is like to have a serious mental illness. It is a heartbreak for families and it destroys many, many lives.

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Chris P. - OCEA STEWARD

What he's trying to sayis that Chrissy Leo will be holding classes on how to get a new job once you've been fired for cheating on your wife with a coworker. And fitness tips from Sean so you can run faster than her husband when he shows up at the office to beat you up. Thank goodness St. joe's doesn't check references too well. neither does Disney for that matter

Huh?