Ruben Vives, Former Illegal Immigrant, Wins Pulitzer for Coverage of Bell Scandal

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There are a lot of local angles to tie in this week's Pulitzer Prize victory by Los Angeles Times reporters Ruben Vives and Jeff Gottlieb for their coverage of the City of Bell Scandal. You have the man they took down, Robert Rizzo, being a resident of Huntington Beach, and that Gottlieb used to cover Orange County. Vives attended Cal State Fullerton before getting a job on Spring Street, and his mom used to be the nanny for Shawn Hubler, a former Times OC reporter who now pens a monthly column for Orange Coast.

And that's where the story really gets interesting. Last month, Hubler wrote a blockbuster essay outing Vives as a former illegal immigrant.

You can read the essay here, which is much more eloquent than I'm about to be (or ever can, for that matter).

Let's be clear: Vives is a reporter, first and foremost. Not a Latino reporter, not a former illegal immigrant reporter, but a reporter. He helped achieved what investigative reporters dream about: boot out bastards, help the downtrodden, and win the nation's premier journalism at a young age. But I, along with the millions of Latinos who come from an undocumented pedigree, whether it be our parents (me), our cousins, uncles, friends, or ourselves (like all the Dreamers out there), can't help but gloat about Vives' background. What a wonderful chinga tu madre at the Know Nothings of the world who insist illegals can't make anything of themselves in this country! What a glorious toma, güey to those who say Latinos bring the corruption of their homelands to the United States and endorse it! What a beautiful arriba to those of us who know undocumented youngsters can and do make something of themselves in this country--if only they have a chance!

Imagine if Vives didn't have wealthy people to help him become legal? He'd be a DREAM Act student spinning his wheels, waiting vainly for politicians to give him and others who only know this country the opportunity they earned long ago. Vives came here from Guatemala as a seven-year-old, the exact age a dear friend of mine who graduated with a degree from Long Beach State in journalism, a friend who can't even get a damn internship from a paper because of his undocumented states, was when he came to this country illegally. What separates Vives and him (and so many others) in terms of assimilation? NOTHING, a point Vives hopefully will make as the rest of the national media catches on to this remarkable-for-them tale.

Gracias, Ruben, for reminding America what those who come into this country illegally are capable of. And for the haters who'll inevitably whine in the comments below?

Welcome to the new normal, pendejos.

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amuncat
amuncat

So, let me get this straight, out of a total of 11-20 million illegal aliens, you are jumping up and down over two who "made it"?!!!

How about getting the rest to graduate from high school, stop having babies at 13, and liviing a life time on the illegal alien American dream called welfare! Geeze!

Song4you
Song4you

Thank you for defending this compatriota, but ( how we say in Guatemala ) " siempre hay un pelo en la sopa " (there is always a hair in the soup) the chinga tu madre and guey, are mexican slangs, for us Guatemalans is " no jodas and burro ". The truth is that nobody is perfect. There were, are and will be narrow minded people that how I said, they have scramble eggs instead of brains in their head. He is an smart guy and is taking advantage of the good opportunities that this great country offers for everybody, and he is not an ignorant he is an smart guy, and what he got was no for free. Andres. sorry for my writing I'am an ignorant.

Alfredo
Alfredo

Guau!!!!congratulations Ruben!!!!! congratulations!!!! claro que si!!!!

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Arthur Comarthur
Arthur Comarthur

Why don't you do a story on all the illegals who sell oranges on the street?

Youssef
Youssef

we're all human from one father and one mother!it doesn't matter hows your mother or my motherwe're all the same one head one face 2 hands 2 foot no matter what the color and the religion is in the end=HUMAN!we should live with all in peace and love and justice on 25% of drying land on this planet!life is very short no body can know what time would be the end!so we need to thinking about a lot and all before saying anything about people like usi mean humannnnn too!hopefully for all human on this planet to got their true justice.

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Louis Freely
Louis Freely

For every Ruben Vives, there's 1,000,000 other illegals who drop out of school, join gangs, tag freeways, leech off the state and are generally a waste of space.

Pancho Villa
Pancho Villa

Well In that case for every Donald Trump, Bill Gates there is 1,000,000 toothless hillbillies just sitting in their trailer parks in the south collecting unemployment, welfare and joining the KKK or just screwing their own cousins. In the North the same thing except they join Militias to "overthrow" the Govt., In the Middle of the Country there Marrying 22 of their 14 year old neighbors and still collecting unmeployment and welfare for all the 92 kids they have with each Minor wife....Also with the only exception of the "night stalker" and the D.C. Sniper...have you noticed that almost all Serial Killers are white? They kill just about as many if not more people than the dumbass gangbangers. Louis...This is in all the races becuase it has to do with the individual...If the individual is the piece of crap you can't presume the whole race is Bro...I know for a fact because of the friends that I have White, African-American, Hispanic, Asian, Armenian, Middle Eastern...it all about the quality of the person...just let us shine bro...soon enough one of yours will and then you can be proud and glout also.

The guest that wouldn't leave
The guest that wouldn't leave

Pancho- Louis attacks criminals, and you reply with attacks against a race... proving the racism so prevalent and accepted in your community.

Viva la ironia!

Pancho Villa
Pancho Villa

Did you really read my response? it's about social inequalities as well as the criminal component. or are you one of the many we have both been referring to in our comments? Again Guest that wouldn't leave I suggest that you do....leave this discussion for grown ups..... Nice Spanish though.

Louis Freely
Louis Freely

Was I talking about Latinos? No, I was talking about illegals.

Pancho Villa
Pancho Villa

Is that a new human race you just invented? Illegals are what in your understanding? Louis? To me they are human beings that have come to reside in this country and did not do it the proper way by following the law and have decided to smuggle or get smuggled into this country because in their country there were no apparent opportunities for them to live a normal life as you and I. Hence they are here without the proper documents to show that either there residents or citizens doing the shitty jobs that other people think that they are too good to do. If you were in their situation bro believe me your ass would be jumping that fence too...and then worrying about the bull crap paperwork later once your here. In a sense you are talking about Latinos since most of them that are here either are or know and have relatives that are illegal. Louis I know it's wrong and yes I believe that there is a problem and this matter needs to be controlled so that not just anyone can come into our country (Latino born and raised in the USA and proudly served my country)But it's much more complicated than just putting up a fence. The US Navy and ARMY are now taking you in and after your done with bootcamp your'e a citizen...Just face it Louis things are changing in this country and all of us contribute to that that is the beauty of it.

Pancho Villa
Pancho Villa

Why do the white guys get all heated about this? this is nothing new. Latinos are bad ass in whatever they do wether its law abiding or not. Of course just like you guys there are exceptions. Unfortunately, but for the most part....Get used to it. We are here to stay and more American than some of you and willing to serve this country while some of you stand in the General Relief Line or Unemployment Benefit line watching soap operas and talk shows during the day....VIVA LA RAZA PUTOS!!!

Carramflo
Carramflo

y que chinge su madre a el que no le guste.pinches gabachos racistas

Gustavotheentertainer
Gustavotheentertainer

Gus, you are a loser. Always have been. Always will be. But that is beside the point. I would never attempt to have a logical discussion regarding immigration with you because you are not capable of that. You have proven that more times than anyone cares to remember.

I am here to deliver a message to the readers who get upset with you. If you are a Gustavo fan, please stop reading this post and go on to the next, you won't like what I have to say.

Here now, is that message. You have to understand that his sole purpose is to say things to get you to react. It is really that simple. That's his thing. He gets off on that. If you say how great he is, or how smart he is, he will respond with praise. If you get upset and call him names, he LOVES that. That is what he lives for. So don't get sucked into one of his name calling games. Certainly, don't try to use logic with him to make yoiur point. And never, ever try to convince him of anything or to change his mind. He won't do it. Take his work for what it is, entertainment. Pure entertainment. So the next time you read something from him, remember what he thing is, and have a good laugh, Only then can you really appreciate how much of a fucking idiot the guy is.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Funny how you don't even follow your own advice--WEAK SAUCE...

Cristi
Cristi

Gustavo --

Who are the neanderthals posting on your wall? You have to tighten up this message board. Why don't you just erase the straight-up racist messages? I mean, it is one thing to bring up a civil discussion about immigration policy and quite another when people start making comments that libel an entire group. Nobody has a first amendment right to post on your wall, much less to fill it with hate-filled speech. Erase the comments from those fools.

Gusthebuttmuncher
Gusthebuttmuncher

By your reasoning, he should erase your comment too.

Cristi
Cristi

How was my comment "racist" or hateful? I probably should not have used the word "neanderthal" but my comment was not filled with hate. So, I am not following your logic.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Nah, we rather enjoy their stupidity 'round here...but we'd rather want literate commentators such as yourself to dominate the conversation instead of those pendejos!

amuncat
amuncat

Why don't you set an example by citing facts and responding without condeming?!!!

CandyO
CandyO

I agree. Racist fools such as the Hateful One should be exposed and mocked.

/Latina AND Native American

Cristi
Cristi

I see your point. But it isn't a fair match. There is no fun in arguing with them. They don't understand logic, history, policy and/or ethics. And, they don't respond to compassion. They are probably filled with some self-hate, world-hate, just hate. They need serious psychological help before they can engage in a civil discussion and most of us are not trained to provide that. Seriously, dude, those commentators lower the level of discourse and drive off the interesting commentators from your board. Something to think about.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

lol... you know i love you gustavo, right? btw, next time you're on air talk, try to deepen your voice a little, you sound like a little girl. hahaha

Cristi
Cristi

You are right. I'm logging off and getting back to my life and my job.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Cristi: That idiots like this guy get in pissing matches only shows that they have no life, and it's important for the world to see this!

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

calm down sweetie.. no one cares about your opinion nor do they care about mine... there is simply no argument to be made to justify illegal immigration that makes sense from any objective viewpoint... the only 'argument" people like you can make is to try to appeal to emotions but you will find out that illegal aliens dont bring out sympathy from anyone that is not mexican.. btw, the word should be "complete" sentences, not "full" sentences... lol

Cristi
Cristi

I write in full sentences because I can.

Cristi
Cristi

@lhateusc - don't you have a job?

@Gustavo -- Like I said, why do you let this go on your board. He is challenging me to a pissing match on, credentials? Seriously? How low is his self-esteem that he needs to brag about his made-up credentials on a message board. This is bullying and you really need to do something about it.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

lol... who writes in complete sentences on a discussion board? thats why God created abbreviations, dummy.. and you want to compare college degrees and professional degrees with me? you want to go first or should i?

Cristi
Cristi

@ Lhateusc -- Wow. Learn how to write in full sentences. You are superior to me? Objectively speaking, I can tell you nobody on this board believes that, including you. I won't tell you where I went to school because I don't need to prove my credentials to you.

Gustavo -- Exhibit A above. Like I said. Think about it.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

at christi.. hahahaha.... spare me your platitudes.. listen, getting a chicano studies degree from orange coast college does not confer wisdom or knowledge...i suggest a spirit of humbleness when you deal or speak with your betters.. and yes, in every measurable way, i am superior to you...

Musomutti
Musomutti

to all those who feel that we should deport all illegals. deport yourself you ignorant fools. 99+% of the population of this country is the result of illegal immigration. just ask any indian.

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

get out of my land.. indians came over from asia.. stupid..the land belongs to asians... can you deal with that? what a stupid argument these mexicans make about immigration... but then, they are mexicans so intellectual prowess is not their strong suit.. now, dont forget to clean under my toilet pancho

Carramflo
Carramflo

seems like the only history you have read is HIS-STORY.

Pancho Villa
Pancho Villa

After he finishes giving your Mom some "Chorizo" I'm sorry did you say Sancho or Pancho?

Jack123
Jack123

Rhetoric...

OY VEY!!!

Don Mexico
Don Mexico

a paisa straight up owned all those mensos that probably told him his entire life that he would amount to nothing and he showed them with a hot cup of vete a la chingada. way to go, vives!

as for all the pendejos that consistently cry about "deporting all illegals," they should take a long hard look in the mirror and get their passports ready for a one-way ticket to gtfo 'cause the REAL illegals are not us, douchebags.

amuncat
amuncat

Dream on.... Once the obam has finished using you, and he is, you won't be worth a plugged nickle in America!

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

lol at gustavo... you sound pathetic.. one mexican won a prize (actually the white partner probably did most of the work and he just translated) and you're peeing in your pants... unfortunately, that doesnt mitigate the millions of low life, uneducated and worthless pieces of shyte that come across the border.. think about it, these peons were so stupid that they couldnt make it in a shit hole like mexico.. yes, send us your best and brightest...

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

You're such a dumb-ass that you didn't even bother to read the post. He's GUATEMALAN, bullied boy!

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

LOL.. like that matters.. one small dirty brown guy is much like any other... besides my only interaction with your people is..." dont forget to vacuum under the bed"

desde aquí te veo
desde aquí te veo

i don't know if this "ihate..."dude deserves any sort of attention, like if he has any capability of thinking straight, or even pretending to do so

Eduardo Quezada
Eduardo Quezada

En Español por favor!

amuncat
amuncat

IF ANYONE IS IN DOUBT ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS INTENTIONS, PLEASE READ THE POST FROM HISPANICS ON THIS SITE!!!!

Rogue Dictator
Rogue Dictator

A "former illegal immigrant"? What the he77 is a "former illegal immigrant"? Is that like a "former murderer"? How does that work? Does some burracho just wake up some morning and say "That's it. I've crawled under the fence and have been an illegal immigrant for 3 years, now I'm not"? Does one receive a taco with a winning Virgin Mary burned on the side of the shell? Is the a statute of limitations on being illegal? And why can mexico be allowed to have strict immigration laws and sealed border, but we aren't supposed to? And how can mexican lose a war so miserably, then be paid $15 million for the wastelands taken by the victor, then claim it was stolen? And if North America was the center of some thriving, imaginary aztlan nation, where are the artifacts? Where ar the pyramids? Where are the petrogyphs? Where are the records from the Spanish? The meztisos are nothing but the progeny from the indians who were raped by Spaniards. Bastard children. California was a desert wasteland when the meso Americans hoboed here across the Bering Strait ice bridge. When they got here, they murdered off the paleo Americans who arrived here 20,000 yrs earlier by boat from Polynesia and stole the land. While they had it, they waged constant wars against each other to take sun god sacrifices, which they butchered by the tens of thousands then ate. When the Spaniards arrived, they beat, raped kiled and infected them until they were virtually extinct. Spain spent the stolen gold like crack wores until they were bankrupt. But to keep the English, French and Dutch from taking the land over, they gave massive land grants to Dons and the Catholic church. Soon, missions and gigantic ranchos were the in thing, but the ranchos were soon bankrupt due to poor management. One example was Pio Pico, who owned most of the Los Angeles basin, but he rode around in his little buggy like a pimp and drank and gambled away everything. He ended up selling out to White men who knew how to raise cattle. They were very rich and successful until the land became more valuable for business and housing than ranching so they slowly sold off virtually everything which became the overbuilt L.A. you see today. But look at mexico. It looks the same as it did 500 yrs ago. Barren, dry, undeveloped, populated with stone age burrachos and ultra corrupt officials. And just like they did thousands of years ago, the meztisos are waging constant wars against each other, violently killing people in the streets. They will never change. They are animals. But now that we've developed North America, they want to take it back. But look at the places they have, like South East L.A.. They take perfectly nice neighborhoods and turn them into violent, ugly, graffitti smeared trash dumps. What a joke. Or, is it yoke?

Carramflo
Carramflo

the only thing you are right about dick-tator is that the europeans did cimmit all the crimes and atrocities that you rant about. you do seem to have learned his-story very well .now take it back with you to your mother country in europe.america IS the bastard child of europe.but before you do please return everything you and your ancestors have stolen from this part of the world.

amuncat
amuncat

And exactly what was stolen from your part of the world?!!! You are such a shining example of why mexico would benefit from your being there as oppose to here. Please keep up with the dialogue, someone who was a fence straddler on illegal immigration won't be after reading your posts. I thank you, AMERICA thanks you! Keep it up...oh, and stomp on a few flags while you are at it!

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