[UPDATE: Was it a Hate Crime?] KFI's John and Ken Show Blame Horrific Beating at Dodgers Stadium on--Of Course--Mexican Culture

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Kobylt and Chiampou: Dumber and Dumb
UPDATE, APRIL 7, 2011, 12:55 P.M.: Some troll at the bottom left the following remark:

If it were two white guys beating up a Mexican, Gustavo would be shitting himself with racist comments.

It reminded me that Kobylt--with no proof whatsoever, with no indication by law enforcement and no such stories emerging from witnesses so far---is already categorizing it as a hate crime because the victim was a white man and the perps were Latinos. It just might emerge that the victim was targeted for his race, in which case it is a hate crime and deserving of sentencing enhancements.

However, I seriously doubt it: All evidence points to those idiots targeting Stow because he was a Giants fan and only because he was a Giants fan--an act of colossal cowardice and stupidity, but not one fueled by race. It happens in sports, you know, regardless of ethnicity. Other stupid Dodgers fans have assaulted Latino Giants fans in the past--is that now a hate crime?

But that Kobylt is already screaming "hate crime" shows how stupid and truly bigoted he is. Did he categorize the takedown of Kansas City Royals coach Tom Gamboa by two white Chicago White Sox fans as a hate crime? Of course not, because it wasn't, nor have I ever heard anyone allege that race played any factor. Same with a 2007 incident when a Latino Angels fan threw a water bottle at then-Oakland A's player Mike Piazza. No one brought up race in speculating about the fan's motive, because there was no conversation to be had. Sports, unfortunately, attract boors of all races--but in the Kobylt world, only Mexican sports fans are capable of mayhem. Moron.
 
ORIGINAL POST, APRIL 7, 8:12 A.M..: Last week's horrific beating on Opening Day at Dodgers Stadium of a Santa Cruz father by two pendejos (which left Bryan Stow, a San Francisco Giants fan, in a serious coma--our prayers to him and his family, and fuck the dipshits who attacked him) has disgusted the nation and was exploited immediately by KFI-AM 640's The John and Ken Show. See, for hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou, that assault was the fault of Mexican immigration and the Dodgers' overtures to Latino fans in the past couple of years--never mind that nowadays nearly all baseball teams have always had promotion days for different groups and that the Dodgers have concentrated on the Latin American market since the 1950s.

But why bother JohnKen with the truth? Doesn't make for good ratings. Instead, yesterday at the top of their 6 p.m. radio segment, Kobyalt went on diatribe bigoted even by his own low standards. After correctly noting it was gang members ("psychopaths") who committed the crime, Kobyalt then made the leap that the Dodgers have been promoting to them for years with "Los Dodgers Day" celebrations (really? Where was the limited-edition "Lean Like a Cholo" jersey?). They interviewed KFI afternoon personality Bill Carroll, who was covering a vigil for Stow. Carroll told JohnKen that Stow's family was approached by a Dodgers fan--big, shaved head, with an "ugly dog," fitting the very profile that the beating suspects match--who promptly broke down in tears and begged the family to realize "this is not what [Dodgers fan] are like" and said he wished he was there to protect Stow.

JohnKen immediately moved on to the next question. A Mexican showing empathy for the victims? Doesn't make for good ratings. Nor do all those pesky Facebook status updates left by Mexican Dodgers fans expressing outrage, or the Dodgers fan who attended the vigil and spoke during KFI's news break with a prominent Eastlos accent. After the break, Kobylt simply forgot Carroll's anecdote and conflated "gang culture" with the amnesty movement, Mexican drug cartels, illegal immigration, the Reconquista, single mothers, and Special Order 40, saying Mexicans want to take back California, and "if they have to kill us along the way, they will."

"This all came from south of the border and infiltrated Los Angeles," Kobylt ranted.

Pathetic--and now, watch the same sentiment infiltrate the blog comments below. Wonder if JohnKen blamed the unprovoked beating of an umpire Kansas City Royals first-base coach at Comiskey Park whatever they call the Chicago White Sox's ballpark eight years ago on the rough-and-tumble culture of the South Side? Yeah, right...
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Judy
Judy

I cannot believe how much hate the Hispanic race brings to others. I guess slavery, the kkk, the politicians, all those infamous bandits, the Russian/Italian mafia Etc... have brought this wonderful usofa nothing but peace right? So which one of you who want all the Hispanics to go back to their 3rd world countries is gonna pick the oranges or strawberries? Instead of just talking shit find a solution and then when you have filled those spots with the white trash that "belongs" here maybe they can get off welfare! Illegal immigrants have no access to public services, so why put the blame on just race? There is a diversity when it comes to public services, and available to those who can prove their citizenship...why else would they have employees from "third world countries" as some of you like to call them

Dulce Montana
Dulce Montana

I hate these guys anyone knows of a Facebook page that puts them and their ignorant BS on blast?

deathb4dishonor
deathb4dishonor

of course it was a hate crime. These wetbacks are some of the biggest racists out there.

mitchell
mitchell

Whites invented baseball, basketball, volleyball, soccer, American and all other forms of football, waterpolo, the Olympics, tennis.

I think Mexicans should be limited to that Aztec game where they had to use their hips to put a rubber ball (that's an indio invention right there) through a hoop. Conforming to Aztec tradition and mores, the losing team got eaten. Remember, the original recipe for Chili Verde called for 'long pork'.

Jack123
Jack123

two whites guys cud not beat up a mexican, one needs at least 3 to 4 white guys for this endevor...

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Richard in Santa Ana
Richard in Santa Ana

I agree, but it doesn't matter anyway. You can't slur a whole group of people for the actions of a few. Unless you're a moron of course. (No offense to morons). I'm white by the way, ironically the group that has most benefited historically from the persecution of people who "aren't like us".

mitchell
mitchell

Hey Casper, lose the self-hate. Fact is 99.9% of 'African-Americans' are lucky their ancestors were brought here in chains. Just look at the GDP in African nations, or even in non-African, black dominated nations like Jamaica or Haiti. That's why the ancestors of 'African-Americans' like Eric 'whitey don't county' Holder and Colin 'stab the Repubs in the Back' Powell migrated from black-dominated shit-holes to white dominated America. And that is why mestizos continue to pour across our border, until there are enough of them so that our living standard roughly equals that of Mexico.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

And now you rationalize slavery! Nice to see you just don't rail about Mexis!

juanydilznik
juanydilznik

Great! Go ahead and feel guilty about "benefitting from persecuting people who aren't like you". I have benefitted zero from this practice. I was born in 1970. Check the stats since then on civil rights. Gussy is a racist who plays the race card all the time. Much like his brown brothers. What people are most afraid of regarding John and Ken is that they use facts and it is tough to argue with them. If more of the media would act like them and ask some real questions we would all be better off. BTW, yes you can slur an entire group of people. Gussy does it all the time.

juanydilznik
juanydilznik

Anyone who doesn't see the decrease in quality of life in CA with the increase of the latino population is either benefitting by it, part of it or is Gussy. Like an honest latino once told me, "when we get done turning CA into Mexico, we will just move on to the next state."

Yoo Focker
Yoo Focker

What other culture should be blamed? A latino struck the victim.

ockaren
ockaren

Last Tuesday night two men beat a guy outside the Whisky-a-go-go Bar in West Hollywood, then got in their car, ran down 2 pedestrians, led police on a persuit resulting in shots fired before police finally apprehended the two men. Now .....wait for it......Their names?......Eduardo Gomez, age 20 and Jesus Gomez, age 18. I rest my case.

Alma
Alma

Know what you mean. When I hear or see on radio or tv about a crime in California, nine times out of ten there's a Hispanic surname involved(I usually guess that it is before the names get mentioned..just a feeling, I guess) and if there's a mug shot or some other pix of the suspect, there's the stereotypical shaved head, tattoos up the wazoo, etc., etc. So tired of it...I'm Hispanic, BTW!

JuanyDilznik
JuanyDilznik

This whole thing is all hype. There is no "gang culture" at Dodger Stadium. Further, latinos do not make areas worse. Look at how nice cities like Lynwood, South Gate, Bell Gardens, Boyle Heights, Santa Ana, West side Costa Mesa, Anaheim, Huntington Park, Chino, Rialto, Baldwin Park, East LA etc. are. They are great places were anyone would want to live. It is obvious that when latinos move in it all gets better. Si se puede.

Alma
Alma

 I assume this post is tongue in cheek. If that's the case, you forgot Whittier! lol

Yoo Focker
Yoo Focker

LOL...nice cities like South Gate, Bell Gardens, Santa Ana, AnaCrime, East LA?? Yeah, they are much better cities than Irvine, Newport Beach, and Corona Del Mar. you know what these cities all have in common? Less latinos and less gangs.

Guest
Guest

Are you crazy? Been living in OC since 1966 (moved from NY).....and Santa Ana is so F'd up. Even 20 years ago it was still OK but now you cannot even go to a store where people speak the English language. Some little kid is always interpreting for mom, dad, grandparents, etc. I live in an apt. in SA....7 years ago, when I moved in here there were whites, blacks, Mexican-Americans, (not WABS). Now my building is nothing but illegals and/or non-Englishing speaking Mexicans. Lots of fun! Each family has at least 4 kids, and rents out space including the dining rooms. It is noisy, crowded as hell and since each family has 3 or more cars there is NO parking. I am moving ASAP. They took over this place in 5 years just like cockroaches ............

mitchell
mitchell

Dude, the original post was sarcastic.

Your point is well taken, though. All this talk about 'diversity' is BS. We had more diversity back in the 80s.

Deaftomex
Deaftomex

Imagine what the money behind bringing an NFL team to LA is thinking right now. Thinking, hell, they're wetting their pants at how the NFL's going to react to ANY pro team going into a third world cesspool like LA that's been overrun by ethnic tribal mobs and neck-tatooed punks like those pictures that have been all over the print media. Yea, Go Doyers!

Donn
Donn

Baseball...another white American institution destroyed by filthy stinking Mexicans in their attack on the quality of life in Southern California. This is only the latest manifestation of the Mexican infestation. Mexicans have dumbed down schools, bankrupted hospitals and transformed nice white neighborhoods into filthy stinking Mexican slums. Bring in third world primitives and you get a third world crap hole....just like the country they ran away from.

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Af

Thing is with my iPod and xm radio and six disc cd player and thumb drive interface in my car. I never have to listen to idiots John and Ken ever again. They are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned

AnotherBrian
AnotherBrian

While it may not be popular, there is something to be said about what the J&K show is asserting.

I've grown up in LA. I used to bike to Dodger games as a kid and get in the bleachers. I never recall any problems. I used to take my nephew to games, but I've stopped because of the violence at games. Not just the physical violence, but the yelling and cursing.

The vast majority of the offenders are of Hispanic background. No one may like to admit it, but it's what I see. Either it's the Hispanic culture or the gang culture or some combination, but I know I can't go to the places I used to go, including Magic Mountain and even the Rampart Tommy Burgers because of it.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

That's funny, because when I go to Dodgers games—in right field, with all those Hispanic savages—I don't here a single curse word. Nice to see you engage in lala land as well!

Ihateusc
Ihateusc

hey gustavo.. for that statement alone, you've lost what little credibility you had as a "journalist"... in your blind rush to defend anything mexican, you show where your true loyalties are... dont forget, if not for the white who own your rag, you would be out in the streets selling oranges.. just like your homies. lol

Mike Davis
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Actually Gussy may move up to strawberries.

909Jeff
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Now, do you not hear them because profanity is just part of the lexicon and not considered curse words or because the curse words are in Espanol and therefore that doesnt count? Because I consider being called a "Pinche ______ " when I go to a Doyer game to be "profane". Notice I didnt say offensive, because I have thick leathery skin and words dont hurt me.

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these guys are two of the most hideous white males.... ever. We should probably leave niche market radio show opinions uncommented on in that they are said in order to incite more divisiveness for all hearers to be edified with. DJ BLACkR

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This incident shows the stupidity of 'hate crimes'. It wasn't one of the supposed 'love' crimes--he wasn't shot while being robbed etc. Obviously the man was attacked for who he was/his appearance. That is, 'hate' under our current ideology. Yet because he does not belong to a politically favored group, he will be treated as a second class citizen. The justice he receives, assuming two 'Latino' needles can be found in the brown haystack of LA, will be less than that of victims of equivalent crimes.

DubV
DubV

He was shot for wearing a Giants jersey...

Politically favored? You never explain yourself Mitchell.. stop drinking that nasty Tea Party cup of rant and rave...

Myoung2
Myoung2

Okay DubV, I'll go slow.

'Hate crimes' are supposed to be those motivated by ...hate. That is, not an economic crime like shooting a 7-11 clerk during a robbery, or a 'crime o' passion' like beating the crap out of the old lady for flirting at a bar. The victim is a victim because of who they are.

Well, these guys -- even without the ethnic element -- attacked Stow because of who he was, an 'out and proud' Giants fan. The were motivated by hate. Had he been a dude wearing a 'rainbow flag' t--shirt and was beaten, we'd have all kinds of hate charge investigations going now. Instead we had a total under reaction (at first) to the incident. But what else is this beside people committing an act out of hate?

Double standards, some victims blood worth more than others.

Momo
Momo

exactly what i was thinking......i don't think this was racial....but it's a crime based on not accepting another person's views....

DubV
DubV

correction beat not shot

Mitchell
Mitchell

Gamboa is a white as I am, Calvito.

Jim Beam
Jim Beam

As a Dodger fan I am sad to know that another fan, be it the Giants or any other team, was attacked. I became a Dodger fan because of Branch Rickey's commitment to integrate MLB as it should have been from its onset. It is unfortunate that people who should know better will always scapegoat the unpopular race / culture / religion of the time just for ratings. The blame should be placed on the individual becacause he took what should have been a great day to enjoy a game and turned it into his personal ass fest

myoung2
myoung2

Yeah, white man beaten by an 'individual of color' , it is always 'an isolated incident', 'just one bad individual'. Bullshit.

Samuel Tecpaocelotl Castillo
Samuel Tecpaocelotl Castillo

I just think it's two drunk guys beat up a guy who was there at the wrong place at the wrong time.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Yeah sammy youre right... Just two drunk guys!

Who happened to be, Early 20s, shaved head, tattood, "Latino" men. Otherwise probably upstanding citizens who volunteer regularly at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

But we cant point out the obvious can we? Lest gustavo gets his panties in a bunch

DubV
DubV

Today JonKen continued their rant... associating the increased belligerence at Dodger stadium not on the increase in alcohol sales or Police presence but with the McCourt brothers reaching out to Inner City Minorities? Really... KFI is a good place to hear the current rant-slant Tea Party Morons are spewing from their vile mouths and dinosaur pea brains

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Actually, I think it was another personality, as JohnKen were off...

DubV
DubV

You're right, I think it must have been, It's just a different Ass taking over the donkey's head que no?

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