Todd Spitzer Versus Chuck DeVore for OC Supervisor?

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This is not a trick question: If almost all of our county's supervisors have been conservative Republicans dating back to the Paleozoic Era, what difference does it make which conservative Republican fills any one of the five board slots?

I'm asking you, Chuck DeVore and Todd Spitzer. Both men--veteran, conservative, Orange County Republicans--this week announced an interest in winning the 2012 election for Third District supervisor. 

I know these guys well enough to appreciate that they are talented, well-informed, personable and driven.

But both are also essentially reading from the same Republican Party playbook. For Orange County residents, will it make any difference which one takes the seat from retiring Supervisor Bill Campbell?

Perhaps even a better question is this for both men: Do you really, really want this job?

Both have unmet goals that won't likely be satisfied in a job that requires daily mixing with other supervisors and county staff who are often--and I'm trying to be polite here--incompetent morons. 

For example, does anyone remember Jim Silva's performance as supervisor? He needed his staff to write his remarks on notecards so that he knew something to say at board meetings. I recall Silva, a protégé of goofy Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, reading his card to thank someone for brilliantly addressing the board. He then sat back in his plush leather chair with a satisfied smile and wondered why everyone was staring at him. The person he thanked hadn't spoken.

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​Spitzer, of all people, should appreciate this point. In his past life as a county supervisor before he won election to the state Assembly, he served with Silva on the board. Spitzer has not exactly shied away from dreaming of high public office--district attorney, attorney general, governor and, no kidding, president.

Not to be outdone, DeVore, also a former California assemblyman, enjoys challenging the communists in Beijing, likes talking about national economic policy and, in the last election, sought the Republican nomination to replace U.S. Senate Barbara Boxer.

I've read all the mainstream coverage this week about a potential DeVore-Spitzer race, but none mentioned what could be a huge campaign advantage for one of them. Spitzer has a whopping $1.2 million left over from his prior campaigns and is likely to get public-employee union support. DeVore, who is in debt from his Senate race, can potentially draw on a national Republican fund-raising base and is more likely to gain support from energetic party activists.

Yet, Spitzer--who was fired as a prosecutor last year by District Attorney Tony Rackauckas--may need an even bigger bankroll. During his previous stint on the board, he happily voted to give certain local government employees the most lucrative pay, perks and pensions on the planet. He wasn't concerned about letting these bureaucrats retire at the age of 50 with the ability to take home 90 percent or more of their top salary for the rest of their lives. The cost of this boneheaded move for the rest of us in OC is hundreds of millions of dollars. 

Will Republican voter disgust on this point alone wreck Spitzer? We'll see. Jon Fleischman at the FlashReport broke news this week of an early poll that puts DeVore ahead of Spitzer in the race. 

Yet Spitzer is arguably the best, most feisty public speaker in the county. And he's not without his own ammo, even if it's less explosive. Expect him to tie DeVore to the man he's already identified as a ruthless villain: Mike Schroeder, the wealthy, Santa Ana chiropractic-insurance king and the county's leading GOP operative who is buddies with Rackauckas (and Fleischman). Last year, the DA said that he'd rather forgo retirement than let an immature, gaffe-prone Spitzer take his office in 2014. Spitzer retaliated by describing Rackauckas as a dimwitted, corrupt Schroeder puppet. 

In the Rackauckas-Schroeder-puppet game, you've got to laugh at how quickly Sheriff Sandra Hutchens put her stamp of approval on Spitzer's candidacy. Can't imagine the relationship between our DA and sheriff? Think Charlie Sheen and Chuck Lorre, but without the benders and goddesses. Spitzer's return to the political stage will widen that rift. 

--R. Scott Moxley / OC Weekly

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I'd like vote for Chuck DeVore but before he gets my vote I'd like to see him denounce any affiliation with Mike Schroeder and that his propaganda lackey John Fleischman who put out that ridiculous poll a couple of days before DeVore's announcement that he's formed an exploratory committee. This County has had enough of Schroeder and his antics. Its time for a politico who isn't beholden to the Unions or the Schroeders.

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Spitzer's vote as a Supe to support union PLA's (support proposed El Toro airport) will bury him in Irvine.

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

It seems to me that Spitzer is not reading from the ALEC republican playbook and DeVore is. I get tired of OC being all republican represented, but at the same time I see reports of Democrats like Pulido and Agran raping the public to enrich their bank accounts. (what is ALEC? http://www.alternet.org/news/1...

The scapegoats have gone from the "Yellow Peril" from the late 1890's to the Great Red fear of the 1900's with conservatives calling Union Organizing "Socialist" now thanks to Unions we have a minimum wage law, 40 Hour work week, child work laws, and work safety laws. During the 1950's there was a new fear of nuclear disaster from the Soviet Union, then there was Communist aggression in Vietnam, remember, if Vietnam falls all of Asia will fall to communism. (It still has not fallen 35 years later) and China and Vietnam are becoming as big of capitalists as we are. Then there was the Moslem fear bred during the Bush Administrations, and NOW after years of exporting our manufacturing jobs to RED China, India the Philippines, Mexico and Central America ten years of multi million dollar a day No Win wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and republican tax breaks for Billionaires, All of a sudden it is the Public Employee Unions that are to blame for the National Woes...

Of course the Fascists will not be happy until we return to the working slave conditions we had in the early 1900's. Working Class Americans have been under constant attack from the uber wealthy with their Army of Republican cronies since we started earning a fair wage and concessions from their slave labor era of the early 1900's. It is a little known fact that the bankers of JP Morgan and Industrialists Irenee DuPont tried to overthrow the presidency of President Roosevelt in his first 100 days in office.. http://www.dailykos.com/story/...Social Security has been under attack from the right wing since its inception. Such Republicans as Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower and even the right wing Hero Ronald Reagan would be considered Liberals to modern day republicans.

It is long Overdue for OC to be represented by Working Class Americans, NOT Republicans with a "blame workers" agenda! Nationwide they have started blaming Government Employees for the financial woes of this nation, but conveniently forget the trillion dollars paid to Wall Street as a ransom of our economy, (which still has record high unemployment)When I search to find such extravagant pensions, all I find are stories of pension payments diverted to balancing budgets, The extravagant pensions collected in OC are by elitist Administrators, Lawyers and Doctors... http://www.voiceofoc.org/pdf_9... (oh yea, Mike Carona is STILL collecting about $18,000 a MONTH while he is in prison) His is the 7th Highest OC Pension.

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Wait! Didn't Spitzer already announce candidacy for DA? Is he running for both DA and Supervisor? Isn't there also a vacant school board seat he should seek too?

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Guest

Does Schroeder really need more tentacles in OC public office? Aren't T-Rack and John WIlliams enough? Maybe DeVore will work to get John Williams back in as Public Guardian or just appoint Peggi Buff to the position.

Jeff
Jeff

Silva using notecards isn't much different than having Janet Nguyen read comments texted to her on the dais from her chief of staff. My money is on Spitzer. He's already been right once by calling T-Rack dimwitted.

Chuck DeVore
Chuck DeVore

Scott, I know that the perspective from the other side of the aisle may see Mr. Spitzer and me as both "conservative Orange County Republicans" who "are also essentially reading from the same Republican Party playbook."

But you refute your own contention later in your piece when you write that Mr. Spitzer: "During his previous stint on the board, he happily voted to give certain local government employees the most lucrative pay, perks and pensions ever on the planet. He wasn't concerned about letting these bureaucrats retire at the age of 50 with the ability to take home 90 percent or more of their top salary for the rest of their lives. The cost of this boneheaded move for the rest of us in OC is hundreds of millions of dollars."

Therein is the rub. Orange County's unfunded pension liability is estimated at $42 billion, the 7th largest in the state. That pension liability was made worse by Mr. Spitzer's vote in 2001. He has expressed regret for that vote. The problem is that he continued to vote for gold-plated pay and benefits for unionized government workers during his six years in the State Assembly. It's a pattern.

I'm running for Orange County Supervisor to safeguard the taxpayers' money.

All the best,

Chuck DeVore

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The Best Guest

Wait... didnt DeVore already run for those unsuccessfully? I lose track.

Cameron Jackson
Cameron Jackson

Chuck,

Don't ignore the fact that there were four (4) other Republican supervisors on that board, all of which voted for that same 3% at 50 pension increase.

Let's not forget Chuck, that there were Republicans all up and down the state of California who voted for 3% at 50. I don't recall any Republicans, especially here in Reagan Country who raised any red flags about the RETROACTIVE, 3% at 50 increase (well maybe Moorlach, but that was it).

My guess Chuck is that had you been in Spitzer's seat, you too would have voted in lockstep with the other Republicans on the board back in 2001. If there is anything Republicans in the OC have proven time and again, they will always go in lockstep with the others, lest they lose out on being the darlings of the party and best buddies with Scott Baugh or Mike Schroeder.

So Chuck in closing, having been a lifelong Republican, I am so very unimpressed with the lot of you political hacks I can barely muster a whiff of respect for anything you or any other politician utter.

Sincerely,

Cameron Jackson

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

Oh you mean that period of time that republicans tout as "happy days" where Eisenhower (Republican) raised taxes for millionaires and average CEO pay was only 30 to 50 times more than workers earned as compared to 300 to 500 times more than workers earn now?

Chuck DeVore
Chuck DeVore

I can appreciate your frustration. But, Mr. Spitzer and I both served six years in the State Assembly. In that time, Mr. Spitzer voted time and again with the government unions and I didn't. We have records -- and those records are different.

All the best,

Chuck DeVore

Dweezle.Di
Dweezle.Di

Sorry Chuck, you just sent my vote to Spitzer. Workers are sick and tired of elected representatives being in the pocket of wallet heavy billionaire bankers. That have been raping us since the beginning of time. I would rather support a representative "beholden" to unions, (who have an established history of supporting the plights of workers) than one beholden to the robber barons responsible for the attack on workers nationwide! I would imagine that if you were a BOS member again, you would have sided with outsourcing the County IT services contract to the out of state contractor that is milking the project ($450,000 in recent news articles alone) instead of the County IT Employees that have both the knowledge and experience to create a better system. I believe the Voters who are mostly working class citizens are tired of the attacks on workers blaming US for bankrupting the nation when it has been Corporate, Wall Street and Billionaire welfare programs compounded by 10 years at billions of dollars a week for wars that Profit the wealthy defense contractors who happen to line politicians pockets.

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