Profiles in OC Pioneers Who Were Klan Members: Dr. Roy S. Horton and Marshall Keeler, Santa Ana Unified Trustees

• Unfortunately there wasn't a reply button under jme's post but mitchell is as much as a dumbass as he is. I was going to say idiot but I did not want to offend Karl of "An Idiot Abroad" fame. jme your knowledge of vehicles is a reflection of your incoherent rants on the comment area, factually incorrect. Ford makes the Aerostar, GMC makes the Safari, and Chevrolet makes the Astro.

• Gus good work. Wondering if there are any ties to the current politics though, maybe some ties to the current OCTA, the toll roads, the park? I wonder how many of these current positions can be tied to the past?

• Hola, loser!

• Why are you describing to us your life?

• hmm, in retrospect, maybe the klan had it right about segregating mexicans

• You're a silly little man.

• And arguing with you is like pistol whipping a blind kid!

• JME... I would generaly ignore idiots like you as my beef is with Gutsavo. But, since I'm feeling particularly spry today I thought I might share some general observations. 1) all you do is yammer on and on with no real premise. 2) You are a filthy trash talking bigot. As evidenced by your many declarations of hatred for the Jews. 3) I work in Santa Ana Idiot, I never said I live there WHICH if I did an imbecile like you would have no clue that there are still some very affluent parts of Santa Ana like east of the 55 and north of 17th, or east of the 5 and south of main and north of 17th. 4) A wetback is a slur towards Mexicans so now are you claiming to be latino or did you mean to say FOB? 5)5th Gen OC means that Im a 5th Generation Orange county Native my family came to Orange in a covered wagon... I would have thought that someone of your Aryan... I mean Dutch brains and 1000 year old VC intelect would have picked up in that. 6) I stand corrected your right JME (Jamie) is a perfectly good transgendered name. 7)My Wife is Latina and over 25 and still hot.. So is Sophia Vergara and J-lo and Penelope Cruz etc etc etc. and I dont care what your racist ass says Sara Silverman and Scarlett Johansen are insanely hot (both heebs) 8) You made some pretty nasty remarks to someone about their Marine son. As a former Marine I take particuler offense to this and would like to kick your Twinkie (Yellow on th outside white on the inside) Ass! I also did chalenge you on another message board and you wouldnt respond... and the reason I read your post is because they are like stepping into a steamy pile of Dog Shit... No matter how much you try to rub your shoe in the grass you cant get away from the stank!

• I assume your addressing me and using JME to back your play... I can’t blame you but based on what he has posted on other boards we know he's a jerk off, and can’t take him seriously. He's one of those people who are posting anything he can think of that might be "shocking" I challenged him on some of his anti Semitic remarks on Cokers story about the Muslim Protests and couldn’t get a coherent response. Which I find it a little funny that between this post and the post about the protest that some terse comments have been Made about the Jews and no one seems to call those people trolls or racist. I guess an equal statement can be made about your journalism degree. Although since I am in the finance industry (in SanTana no less) I suppose you're right that was a waste of a degree.

• What you described still happens here--and since you refuse to admit that, you're more foolish than I believed. What a waste of a history degree...

• WOW! I just want to point this out... You posted this on another board. I am!! Half Vietnamese and Half White(real American White too) im a prodigy of the Vietnam war..that explains my difference in intelligence compared to Full Whites and full Asians..My observant senses are way sharper than most due to my History of one of the longest ancestory on this planet.. Thats what you wrote about yourself. Apparently you are the annointed one! Who are we to argue with such a scholarly person.

• Actually, every single Asian in Asian is an Asian supremacist -- look at each country's immigration policy. Don't be so provincial -- there is a world beyond the Orange Curtain.

• Like it or not, segregation was legal at the time, recently ruled so by the Supreme Court. Moreover, it seems to me there would have been far more reason to segregate Mexican kids -- who were foreigners or the children of foreigners and likely (to use today's term) 'limited English proficiency' than blacks who, after all, had been in the US since it was before it was the US. Further, as jme has pointed out, segregation seems to be okie-dokie with 'progressives' as long as it is the right kind of segregation. So much so that Secretary of Education Arne Duncan appeared by video link at the graduation of urbanacademy in Chicago -- a publicly-funded charter which makes no secret that it is for black males, and only black males (the website is easily findable on the net). As for child labor, again you are missing context. In 1950 something like half of all people in the US didn't have a high school education. Millions of whites engaged in 'child labor', especially in rural areas. Indeed your account of 'the Citrus War' makes that apparent -- growers got their children to pick and Mexicans tried to lock them out from their own family's fields. And I hardly wish for violence -- maybe I will end up with egg on my face and you come up with a spectacular mass lynching or something at the end of the series. But for now these guys pretty much conform to my general understanding of what was 'the Second Klan' in the US as a whole -- businessmen, community leaders, folks not prone to violence, that did not like the way the US was headed politically and demographically. They chose to organize somewhat secretly, while wearing funny costumes. All that is (and was) protected activity under the constitution. Even cross burning, if done on one's own land, is protected expression.

• Another happy reader huh Gustavo? I'm willing to bet Norris has never ventured out from his OC microcosm (Vegas doesnt count). He wouldnt know real racism if it slapped him in the face. I lived in Memphis for a year thats where I saw real racism. Then I spent some time in Alabama where white folk still wont let their kids go to school with Minorities. Quit perpetuating the victim mentality!

• Who said I was outraged? You believe you have more influence than you actually do! I cant wait to see what you have to say about Brea. Was Dr Curtis a filthy racist who only treated poor WHITE kids, And now Brea has a theater honoring him? Or was Walter Johnson a Klan member before he played for the washington Senators? Who Cares? Why dont you post your e-mail address on your columns anymore?

• gustavo, my stomach turns in revulsion when I read about how horribly racist orange county was and still is today. I would really appreciate it if you would steer me towards your proof of the OC's love for the KKK . I want to show those ignorant stuck up white snobs in the OC that they are not perfect just a bunch of ugly racists who can only repeat history. where did you find all this info about the KKK?

• Oooh, a sock puppet! Usually, that's cause for giving said sock puppet the boot, but your faux outrage over my series is rather amusing. And actually, my series isn't the same as your comments—each individual listed had a different influence on Orange County. Just wait what happens to Brea...which, of course, you will.

• I actually said I "Enjoy" your work and I also said we have "Divergent" opinions that doesnt mean I always agree with you. I have a strong opinion of this crusade you are on thats all. You have to admit that I did finally say something to Mitchell when he kept pressing you on Mecha. As far as the other lowlifes who leave racist comments on here, c'mon really? Arent they hanging themselves... Pun intended! and I'm going to keep challenging you each time you post one of these stories beacuse it is what you claim my post to be... the same thing over and over again just insert a different name. And I do post on your other work with my real post name... This is the only one I have changed. You know to protect the innocent! I do look forwards

• Jme your trash

• 5th: I LOVE how you get your chonis in a bunch because people say OC is racist, yet stand by and say nothing while actual racists leave apologias for white supremacy. And, again: I've never claimed to be a "champion" of the Mexican people; that's your telling interpretation of my writing. Also telling is that, for supposedly liking the rest of my work, you only leave the same comment again and again on the same type of post. Who's obsessed with race again?

• Hi Writer, You can go back and look at my previous posts as well. Some critical of Gustavo for this series, and some I actually agree with him. last week I actually defended him when he was constantly being pressed on his affiliation to MECHa. I don’t recall once calling him names or representing my point of view in anything less than a respectful manner. I will not be baited into the playground style debate that it appears Gustavo wants to draw me into. The point being is that I'm not "Decrying History" I was a history major at CSUF... I of all people scream from my soapbox that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Also, there is nothing frightening about trying to protect the legacy of your family, and yes they may be uncomfortable with some skeletons that may come out. As you say, "it’s about times gone by". We all know there were some not so tolerant people around 100 years ago. I see little need to drag their names through the mud, especially since some of their family may still be in the area. And yes a thoughtful person will see that the seeds are still present... As evidenced by the very first comment out of the gate posted by Diesel. It was the same with the last article and the one before that. And, if I were a betting man, next Monday right after Gustavo drops his next hit piece and dances the Mexican Hat dance on the graves of the dead again, there will be another minority posting a comment about how racist everyone in Orange County is. As I have said in my other posts by and large I enjoy Gustavo’s work. I think mostly because we have entirely divergent views on politics but also because I respect his right to be so wrong. (That was a softball for you Stavo!) I would encourage you to read some more of his work though and you will see the underlying tone is that the Mexicans are the poor abused bastard children of California and he is their champion with a pen and an audience. If anyone dare make a edgy remark towards him then he will call you a troll or racist or tell you to go back to Stormfront etc etc etc... Yet he regularly uses derogatory words to describe us "Gabachos". A word, which he admitted in an article he wrote, is a slur towards whites. However, when called out on it he explains it away through his witty use of "Satire". So Gustavo, I look forward to next week You know I'll be waiting breathlessly! Oh and please forgive us for our poor grammar and spelling I try to be cognizant of it but when replying on a message board I think most take a more relaxed tone.

• Writer: Don't bother with jme, one of the few Asian white supremacists out there...

• Your thirst for blood is puzzling—and disturbing as hell. Of course, you're the kind of guy who thinks exploiting child labor and segregating schools is hunky-dory...

• 5th: Your approach to history is as juvenile as the orange-crate art your ancestors affixed to their Mexican-picked-and-packed oranges.

• Did you read mine? Your command, or lack thereof, of the language (again, as evidenced by poor spelling and the lack of proper punctuation, etc.) leaves more to be desired than your need to use very small, very easy to spell, insulting words. None of which strengthens your arguments nor invalidates my comments.

• I am fascinated by people who decry the idea that history is relevant. There is something frightening about people who are uncomfortable with the past. I see this article as an explanation of times gone by. Yes, the world is a much better place than before. No, at no point does the author seem to imply that these problems are continuing (although, the thoughtful individual will see that the seeds are still present). It would appear that this rant only goes to prove two things: (1) education (as exemplified by the spelling and grammatical choices made by this writer) is sorely lacking, even with the longer school year; and, (2) some find it difficult to stay on subject. What does it say about the writer who launches a tirade based on the name of the author? It does leave me wondering if the writer actually read the article in question.

• Gustavo, Another shining example of hou you are uniting the city with this smear campaign your on. Other than what we discussed last week which you explained as a "Full accounting of History" Why do you feel the need to continue to tarnish the legacy of the city?

• Once again, no violence, no nothing -- perhaps trying to 'force' teachers to join the Klan was out of bounds, but we'd have to see what measures he was taking. "Getting out of school early" -- oh, the horror!

• It figures, Orange County is as Racist as most other cities. This Country is full of Racism, that's why most other Countries Hate America!

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